The remarkable Mortimer flintlock repeating pistol with firearms & weaponry expert Jonathan Ferguson

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Described by Jonathan as an 18th century Winchester repeater, this Lorenzoni repeater pistol combines intricate craftmanship with an ingenious mechanism for reloading on the fly.
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@sneedclavehere8918 Жыл бұрын

Repeating flintlocks have to be my favorite guns, such creative designs that gunsmiths had to come up with before we had self-contained cartridges, wonder how many other designs got lost in history.

@brittakriep2938 10 ай бұрын

I am german, Brittas boyfriend, and german style trained metal worker ( Facharbeiter). When watching historic mechanical items, firearms, watches, measure Instruments etc., i am always astonihed, what the craftsmen of old days could do, for a modern metal worker unbelieveable.

@SergeantSniper 9 ай бұрын

There's a 1625 breechloading wheellock musket that used iron cartridges. Very interesting gun.

@Rickster621 Жыл бұрын

The demon gunsmith of Fleetstreet

@samholdsworth420 Жыл бұрын

😈

@joearnold6881 Жыл бұрын

I’m astonished to realize I would totally watch “What Is This Box”

@censusgary Жыл бұрын

I know you don’t do it in this series, but I’d love to see this thing, or an accurate replica, being loaded and fired. It seems ingenious.

@Tekdruid Жыл бұрын

"Repeating" and "flintlock" are not words one would expect to see put together, but apparently that is a thing that exists.

@davispeterson1876 Жыл бұрын

Just wait until you hear about the flintlock machine gun

@leonardomafrareina7634 7 ай бұрын

Mortimer, Lorenzoni, Cookson, all of these apparently used the same basic mechanic. I'd like to know what was the difference between them, they seem really fascinating.

@Airblade101 Жыл бұрын

I can't imagine what it's like to hold something in your hands that has such an incredible history.

@Seraphus87 Жыл бұрын

That's the most ornately decorated bomb that I've ever seen.

@lucasvisser3864 8 ай бұрын

This is simply fascinating. If only I could take a look at the internals... The ingenuity required to come up with something like this is quite something.

@MicrobiomePrescription 6 ай бұрын

My grandma was a Kaltoft with a direct line back to the Kaltofts mentioned in this video. He and his siblings were making these for the Kings of Denmark, Sweden and England (Charles II) and the Tsar of Russia) back in the 1600's.

@robertdeen8741 Жыл бұрын

I'm sure you've heard this at least once before. You sir, must have one of the best jobs in the UK, Europe, hell the whole world. Every man who's ever been into firearms, like me, must be envious beyond measure. The collection you're the lord and master of, must be the largest in the world. Not in just numbers, but variety. Was this a job you aspired too, or did life just steer you there by happenstance? You get to look at, touch, hold, love and even fondle guns most people didn't even know existed. You've been blessed. Yes, I admit it, I'm envious. I'm also happy for you and happy the UK seems to have found a man up to the task of caring for this collection and also sharing it with the world. Thank you sir. God bless you, assuming you have one. If not, John Moses Browning might be a good candidate.

@Chiller01 Жыл бұрын

Bacelli Lorenzoni sounds like an enticing pasta dish at a high end Italian restaurant. Apologies to Italians everywhere but that’s what Im choosing to visualize at the moment.

@daviddavidson2357 Жыл бұрын

Saw one of these on forgotten weapons. Gunsmiths were extremely creative.

@kayscott3374 Жыл бұрын

Those are really cool and it doesn't take too long to reload

@johnharris6589 Жыл бұрын

If you could find a CAPt North's pistol they would make a great pair for a pirate captain he could claim he had marked north and south. Lovely pistol just the right size.

@Ugly_German_Truths Жыл бұрын

Or they might annihilate each other in an enormous explosion like matter and antimatter if they ever touched...

@uncleanon6445 Жыл бұрын

This is fucking phenomenal engineering holy shit.

@brianfoster4434 Жыл бұрын

Fascinating. Thank you so much for these videos. This one proves that "repeating arms" have always been a natural progression in the technology.

@HughSheehy Жыл бұрын

The risk of explosion with that thing must be massive, even when it's so beautifully made.

@OverlordMaggie 6 ай бұрын

What an amazing mechanism! Very ingeniously designed and beautifully decorated too.

@leewat3742 Жыл бұрын

That is an amazing piece of engineering. Myself, wife, son and Dad came over to the Easter weekend Joust, it was great. It was my Wife's first visit and she was impressed, the boy and my Dad have been quite a few times in the past. Anyone into the history of this green and sometimes not so pleasant land should visit.

@Anraksa Жыл бұрын

Will we ever get to see Jonathan show any artillery pieces?

@Ugly_German_Truths Жыл бұрын

I think Ian had a rifle with this sort of mechanism in his show a couple of years ago and demonstrated it pretty well... Maybe put a link into your description too?

@Ugly_German_Truths Жыл бұрын

kzfaq.info/get/bejne/pMuBoLGmxt_Xc6M.html Here, a Lorenzoni pattern (that is the magazine style) built by Wilson in the UK...

@johnladuke6475 Жыл бұрын

If you're that curious about the powder charge, perhaps sand could be an inert simulator to avoid risk and damage. Any grains of sand that don't pour out easily can just be blown out with compressed air.

@JoriDiculous Жыл бұрын

Beautiful piece of art.

@0570965 Жыл бұрын

Creative, good craftsmanship and history.

@TheLordArion Жыл бұрын

You who have looked at alot of weapons in games might find it interesting, if you didn’t already know, that roughly this design is in the old computer RPG game ”Arcanum of steamworks and magic obscura”. Though in the game it’s called ”long range pistol”

@CatsT.M Жыл бұрын

It is a really nice box though.

@cleanerben9636 Жыл бұрын

Gorgeous.

@richardmyhan3369 Жыл бұрын

That's really cool!! I'd never heard of this before.

@bloodday7589 Жыл бұрын

Beautiful weapon.

@longrider42 Жыл бұрын

I cant remember what book it was, but I think it was in the Sackett series by Louis Lamor, where one of these pistols was used.. Now that I saw the crank on the left side. I recognize it.

@MysteryPixel Жыл бұрын

The remarkable Jonathan Ferguson

@ihcfn Жыл бұрын

Impressive beast, impressive engineering.

@terry7907 Жыл бұрын

Just remarkable.

@michaelmoorrees3585 Жыл бұрын

I call 'em Lorenzoni, 'cause the first time I was made aware of them, was from Forgotten Weapons, and that's what Ian calls 'em. Only makers that would attempt these were the highest quality makers, else they'd just be a fancy pipe bomb.

@britishamerican4321 Жыл бұрын

LOL, indeed.

@MatsJPB Жыл бұрын

Woah, really cool!

@jponeill2151 Жыл бұрын

What beautiful object

@billinghamscuba Жыл бұрын

I’d really love to know how reliable m these things actually are in practise

@LiveDonkeyDeadLion Жыл бұрын

I was at Fort Nelson today, not sure you would get those guns on the table. I unexpectedly saw an SLR (the finest assault rifle), so a good day

@realhorrorshow8547 Жыл бұрын

Strictly speaking the SLR is a battle rifle, but your point remains valid.

@snowflakemelter1172 Жыл бұрын

Not an " assault rifle" both the intermediate cartridge and full automatic fire are missing.

@alonsocushing2263 Жыл бұрын

And I was lucky enough to carry one in SE Asia in 1867/68 with the Australian Army. Heavy but lovely.

@snowflakemelter1172 Жыл бұрын

@@alonsocushing2263 self loading musket ?

@alonsocushing2263 Жыл бұрын

@@snowflakemelter1172 Yes. We had a couple but were told that as they are very valuable, we could only use them in an emergency.

@paulspice4717 Жыл бұрын

Absolutely wonderful pistol, thank you for showing us Jonathan. Although if it is based on my experience of flintlock firing, the flint would break after the first shot haha

@johnmanier9047 7 ай бұрын

Truly the Winchester of the 1600s

@gilesleonard6876 Жыл бұрын

I expect the reality of loading it, involved rather alot of tapping and smacking the side of the pistol to fill the loading drum... Especially after the first couple of shots

@verfugbarkite Жыл бұрын

Interesting to see those automatic priming pan, that technology could be used on flintlock pepperbox type pistols and rifles.

@cosmo9882 Жыл бұрын

Cool.

@brianhiles8164 Ай бұрын

If the barrel (etal) is difficult to extract from its detent in the box, just fold in a suitable ribbon, that pulling its extremities later will get the job done without scratching anything. If you use a fancy red ribbon, you indeed will get away with not making it evident that it indeed did not come with the case.

@antoninolatorre8355 Жыл бұрын

hi, Jonathan !!! very interesting pistol, but very dangerous too ! because the weel bolt, that take the powder and the ball, while wheel to bring them in the barrel, it can gives a spark and causing a blowup of the powder storaged in the handle magazine ...!!! in the seventeen century in italy a gunsmith of name Giacomo Berselli maked a repeating pistol like that, and another gunsmith of name Michele Lorenzoni maked several rifles the same than pistol ! good video like everytime bye and good work for the next video 👍👋

@robertunderdunkterwilliger2290 Жыл бұрын

I doubt anyone will make a replica!? I wouldn't shoot it!

@steveclarke6257 Жыл бұрын

The issue with the barrel not lining up....could there have been a "washer" (maybe leather or brass which is now missing) to make a gas seal?

@zaqzilla1 Жыл бұрын

I love early repeating firearms. They may have been relegated to the junk bin of history, but they're always creative and inventive.

@classicalextremism Жыл бұрын

Not all history goes to the junk bin. This wouldn't and shouldn't be there, its an important bit to show that rate of fire and ease of use were always considerations for as long as there have been firearms. Much like the "Perdition to Conspirators" firearm or the 1790's 200 shot Chambers Flintlock machine gun. Its less a developmental dead end and more a spring board. We stand where we are because of those works of those who came before.

@xymorm Жыл бұрын

could you do a video on the luty 9mm sub machine gun?.

@aalhard Жыл бұрын

Question I saw holders for everything but flash pan powder. Where would you have that?

@redsnappa7837 Жыл бұрын

Thanks for another engaging video. A fantastic piece of handmade precision engineering, it must have been fabulously expensive to purchase. You might measure the size of the powder reserve shown at 7:51 with a depth micrometer and calipers, then divide that by the number of balls to get a rough idea of the powder charge per shot, assuming the reserve would be completely filled?

@gunsforevery1 Жыл бұрын

A good rule of thumb of thumb is caliber≈grains of powder. I’m guessing since this had a powder “cylinder” it was probably about 20grain

@mogilews Жыл бұрын

Kalthoff repeater predates the Lorenzoni by some decades I think. Patent in France to Guillaume Kalthoff in 1640, but documentation tracks back to the 1620s. There's an absolutely fascinating network of early repeater technologists in this period, doubtless drawn in part from the extreme violence of the Religious Wars / European Wars of Religion, a bloodletting which would not be matched in Europe until the 20th C. "Volcanic" I always thought referred to the "charge in bullet" design, a sort of early caseless cartridge, popularized as the Rocket Ball in the mid 19th C.

@johnladuke6475 Жыл бұрын

That was always my understanding of the Volcanic as well. Although he's the expert, I think Jonathan is misusing the term here.

@SimonUdd Жыл бұрын

This is probably the closest you will come to a “Gucci” flintlock

@mightyone3737 Жыл бұрын

Just saying, but checking isn't entirely decorative, it helps with grip.

@Beaulocks_ Жыл бұрын

Señor Spielbergo strikes again... .

@kolega4ever Жыл бұрын

Jonathan, do You have any (even vague) data or mentions considering reliability of such gun design?

@jasperlawrence5361 Жыл бұрын

An excellent gun and presentation, thanks.

@TheLoxxxton Жыл бұрын

I realy like watching this channel I just wish for better camera work, more detailed close ups would be great

@runem5429 Ай бұрын

"I don't want to take this apart"....or shoot it, I imagine..😬seems crazy dangerous design.

@christophersilsby7829 Жыл бұрын

At one time, all officers of the British military were required to buy their own sidearms that they would be their daily carry weapons 😊

@88porpoise Жыл бұрын

Jonathan knows that. But if you were carrying a pistol on campaign it is unlikely to be this. This would be the showpiece you keep at home and show off to your fellow gentlemen and maybe do a bit of target shooting.

@gunsforevery1 Жыл бұрын

This was possibly just a private weapon to show off. Not their daily carry.

@gunsforevery1 Жыл бұрын

And although they were required to buy their own sidearms, there was still standards on what type and caliber had to be carried for duty.

@HanSolo__ Жыл бұрын

Back then Polish Winged Hussars were required to not only fully equip themselves but also their battle company. The apprentice received only board and lodging, and training under the watchful eye of the knight was payment. The groom/coachman and possibly the bodyguards as the light cavalry accompanying the officer were paid from his purse. Of course, the salary was not enough to support students or adjutants, but they could be paid handsomely if the war brought loot.

@James_Earl_Cash Жыл бұрын

As Brad Pitt said at the end of Se7en, “What's in the box?!”

@johnforeman6620 Жыл бұрын

How would Nelson have operated this?

@HanSolo__ Жыл бұрын

Sir, how expensive such a pistol could be back then?

@kingstonpatrickscuthbert5473 Жыл бұрын

The barrel sems hexagonal, rather than octagonal?

@KathrynLiz1 Жыл бұрын

I wonder how often the powder in the magazines went off when the pistol was fired? That would be 'interesting'.....Black powder ignites VERY easily ans it wouldn't take much of a gap (.001") would be plenty, for the flash to get into the magazine(s)..... Lovely bit of work though.

@normanbraslow7902 Жыл бұрын

I'm surprised the blowback didn't ignight all the powder in the magazine and blow the thing to shreads.

@minispud Жыл бұрын

This makes me wonder if the Jonathan of 150 years from now is going to be holding up golden cartel AKs and I can only smile

@RAKtheUndead 4 ай бұрын

Funny thing you say that after the golden Kalashnikov video a month ago...

@TangBengYong 6 ай бұрын

Was this repeating mechanism used for repeating muskets or rifles as well?

@Sm00k Жыл бұрын

Monster Hunter Bowguns suddenly make sense.

@jdzencelowcz Жыл бұрын

I'd want one that I could use left handed.

@carlettoburacco9235 Жыл бұрын

(until the 18th century) Never go against Italians when it comes to find ways of killing in droves. ..... and the British transformed everything into a magnificent piece of style.

@tedarcher9120 Жыл бұрын

I wonder if there were lorenzoni type machine guns, just connect the lever to the hammer to re-cock and fire it each time and install a self-priming pan from a prussian musket

@tedarcher9120 Жыл бұрын

This and Girardoni air rifle are completely space age tech at the time and show how advanced european craftsmen really were

@KuraMad2000 Жыл бұрын

Couldn't you just shim to compensate the over centering?

@user-uj8wq8hj2x Ай бұрын

シリンダー外部の上下の穴はなんのためにあるのですか? ガス抜き？

@felixmervamee7834 Жыл бұрын

Could these guns be have been used for "hobby hunting"? the repeating mechanism, lack of rifling and sizeable calibre made me think of a self-defence item, but the barrel's length certainly doesn't allow it to be carried as such. So, I thought, what about it being some noble/bourgeois hunting implement?

@Iowa599 5 ай бұрын

Semi-auto flintlock 8)

@stevenotten2464 Жыл бұрын

This calls for a Bruno animation. But tjeez what a nice piece to blow your hand off sooner or later…

@quentinhilpert9606 Жыл бұрын

So this thing actually worked without blowing up??

@terry7907 Жыл бұрын

Which ducal family is Captain South related to?

@stevewatson6839 Жыл бұрын

He'll been a baronet, I imagine. Lowlier fry but still entitled to arms.

@AsbestosMuffins Жыл бұрын

a pistol thats almost longer than a rifle

@dobiem1 Жыл бұрын

When you may afford such artwork, you may afford the wine to be drunk before the duel. I sense this might be classed as an unfair advantage however, as you have 7 chances to 1 of getting something damaged on the opponent. :)

@kurtmitchell546 Жыл бұрын

I would love to see this type of gun made by an amateur machinist. Maybe a KZfaqr machinist will see this and become inspired

@llearch Жыл бұрын

I would want a not-quite-that-amateur machinist. The explosive forces are not small, and I wouldn't want to see anyone hurt if anything was slightly out of place.

@snowflakemelter1172 Жыл бұрын

The work involved would be extremely expensive and a hobby machinist isn't a gunsmith.

@Equiluxe1 Жыл бұрын

There is also a letter T on the handle so it is more likely to be Captain Thomas South.

@keithmoore5306 Жыл бұрын

actually Jonathon i think it is Thomas South there's something about the way the handle is engraved makes me think the T is an initial not part of captain!

@HeathLedgersChemist Жыл бұрын

It takes seven balls? Sounds like my ex.

@korbetthein3072 Жыл бұрын

Your ex is a dragon?

@HeathLedgersChemist Жыл бұрын

@@korbetthein3072 She can be at times, yes.

@korbetthein3072 Жыл бұрын

@@HeathLedgersChemist So if I gather all 7 of her balls I get a wish?

@kodiakkeith Жыл бұрын

Magnificent! British gun engravers then and now, are the best. American guns are a bit repetitive with the running leaf and scroll. Germans are just too... Teutonic. Italian and Spanish a bit too florid. High end British guns are always perfect. They don't cross the line into "too much." Each British engraver has his own original and elegant designs and motifs and part of the magic is that they don't overdo it.

@richardparsons7012 Жыл бұрын

It's not to much a twist to the barrel, but Damascus steel. It's early for western adoption of Damascus, but much more common later in early cartridge shotguns, in the back half of the 19th century.

@carami6442 Жыл бұрын

Lorenzoni, lorenzoni, give me the formioni.

@manK2022 5 ай бұрын

Dark background on video is not good for perception of this interesting matter.

@randyhavard6084 Жыл бұрын

I would think it's Captain T. South

@pyeitme508 Жыл бұрын

@chooseyouhandle Жыл бұрын

Victorian era always amuses me with its wackyness

@johnstevenson1709 Жыл бұрын

Georgian not Victorian, modern revolvers and cartridges were developed in the Victorian period

@badas45 Жыл бұрын

The more I see ancient "assault weapons" the more it solidifys my belief that The second Amendment doesn't only apply to single shots Also you could open cannons back then