The Rings of Power Season 2 Looks As Bad As Season 1

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4 күн бұрын

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@Darkwintre 2 күн бұрын

Money doesn’t buy talent evidently.

@SnakeWasRight 2 күн бұрын

Well, it does, but when you use it to hire on the basis of diversity......................

@PolBlanesCebrian 2 күн бұрын

@@SnakeWasRight Please... get your head out of your butt. Who do you think is responsible for RoP being so bad? Talent doesn't just mean actors, and I would argue actors are the least responsible. Writers, directors and especially executive producers are the problem. Let's see: Writters - J.D.Payne, American, white; Patrick McKay, American, white. Exec. Producers - Jason Cahill, American, white; Gennifer Hutchison, American, white; Lindsey Weber, American, white; Justin Doble, American, white; S2 Directors - Louise Hooper, British, white; Sanaa Hamri, Moroccan, north-african. Less than half of the acting cast is nonwhite. Keep talking about "diversity" and "inclusion" being the problem and you will achieve nothing. The problem is not diversity, it's the narcissism of the production team in sequestering an IP to attract views to their mediocre or bad writing.

@SnakeWasRight Күн бұрын

@@PolBlanesCebrian I didn't say anything about the actors, did I? But let's unpack this... the writers and casting directors are hiring on the basis of diversity. So, does that mean the acting is bad? No, it means the writing is bad because rheyre creating characters on the basis of diversity and not story function, they're creating characters with diversity instead of personality. Not that those are mutually exclusive, but the wokesters believe that diversity is enough to market on and to watch. They literally think as long as the character is a minority, minorities can identify with them, so, character is diverse, job done. Nothing else to add. Because they think minorities can't identify with white characters no matter how well written they are. Writing isn't a factor to these people. And you can have a white writer and still get the same effect. You seem to be thinking I said something I most certainly did not. A white person can be hired on the basis of diversity in the sense that they're going to hire and write diverse characters and tow the woke line. Diversity is still the basis. Not actual talent. P.s. your comment "less than half the cast is non white." Now, imagine making a show or movie about sub Sahara African people or mythology and trying to justify a little less than half the cast being non African. Lord of the rings is a European tale, literally supposedly pre historic Europe. There should be an internal logic to the story. Races evolve separately, that's just a biological fact. That's why the exist: geography. The funny thing is, there is a very legitimate way to get non white peoples into this story: bring in people from the right geography. Harad, the east, the south lands. But instead, every single area is racially heterogenous, which makes no sense historically, geographically, or otherwise. Again, imagine making a show about African mythology and having Japanese people and white people as every other character right alongside Africans like it's just normal. No, they should all be African with little to no exception. But again, not blaming the actors, and not blaming race. I'm blaming people who think representation is a substitute for character traits. 🙄

@PolBlanesCebrian Күн бұрын

@@SnakeWasRight So the problem is the acting because they hired less qualified people in order to fill the quotas? This would mean 2 things: You should be able to pinpoint those that are acting worse and see that they are generally worse; and you should be able to notice those who haven't been selected to fill quotas, them being better than actors in media that doesn't try to be inclusive. The latter basically because of the reduced number of positions that are allowed to be filled by non-minorities, reducing offer increases competition. But most importantly, you're saying the writing, direction and production are not to blame for the show being bad... Weird thing to state in a video that talks about costume design in the damn thumbnail. I think you're quite alone on this. In fact, actors depend a lot on direction and script in every piece of media, only really good actors can go beyond that, but that's the reason child and aspiring actors can actually do great performances sometimes. Sincerely, it's quite sad that you jump to such simplified conclusions when the situation is so much broader yet straightforward. You let your discomfort for minorities blind you.

@SnakeWasRight 15 сағат бұрын

@@PolBlanesCebrian WOW. Stunning lack of reading comprehension. Like, truly unbelievable. I LITERALLY said I'm not talking about the actors' talent. Explicitly. I never mentioned them or their talent, ans yet your first comment is that I claimed something about their talent? You are just a liar. I EXPLICITLY said the writing is the problem, and you come back with "you're saying the writing, direction, and production are not to blame for the show being bad." Either you are INCAPABLE of reading, or you're INCAPABLE of being honest. Wow, this is seriously the most unhinged response you could have possibly given. How many times did I say the WRITERS made bad decisions and compromised on WORLDBUILDING or CHARACTER and PLOT because they thought diversity would be enough? How many times do I need to say that? How explicitly do I need to say its not the actors' fault? How many times? Honestly, tell me how many times, and I'll do it that exact amount of times. Explicitly, it is NOT THE ACTORS' FAULT. While I do think the actors can be obnoxious in interviews, they are being made into human shields by the producers, and should NOT be subject to criticism for the product they made. They did their job. They did what the script said. The script is the problem. The worldbuilding is the problem. I don't care how good a white actor is, if the plot occurs in Sub-Saharan ancient Africa, there should be few to zero white people on the cast. I don't care if the greatest actor on earth is white, and can act the script so well it brings tears to everyone's eyes... if the story is adapting black African history or black african mythology (because North Africans and (modern) South africans are white) then it would make NO SENSE to cast a bunch of white people. Ethnography is a thing. Races occur in geographic locations with little to no mixing, in ancient and medieval times. Discomfort for minorities? What part of "african stories should not have white people" makes me uncomfortable with minorities, liar? I would LOVE to watch some REAL african history and mythology, but Hollywood is not interested in that. They're interested in shoving minorities into European history and European myths. We don't need to make everything European. We need REAL african representation. Since I know you're a liar, I know you won't understand the following, but this is my argument, again... these writers don't understand character... they just think that white people like white characters, so make some black, and black people will like those characters because they're black, thus, character is not a priority to them. That's racist. You are defending racism, I am attacking racism. You're pathetic.

@DoodsUnited 2 күн бұрын

A helmet with a cheesegrater on the top! Truly those elven armorers are the top of their craft.

@haleyschreiter9746 Күн бұрын

That helmet looks like it'll fall off if he bends over 😂

@majomajo1835 2 күн бұрын

'Look, Elrond has a new cool battle armor! He looks so cool, right? Daemon Targaryen has a cool armor. You like Daemon just because he looks cool, right? That makes them even and you'll gonna watch the show, right? Right!?'...

@frankvandorp2059 2 күн бұрын

I guarantee you that the writers of Rings of Prime genuinely don't understand why House of the Dragon is so much more beloved than their own show.

@SnakeWasRight Күн бұрын

This is literally how they think: aesthetic. And they're not even good at that.

@SnakeWasRight Күн бұрын

@@frankvandorp2059 I would stake my life on it.

@GeraltofRivia22 Күн бұрын

@@SnakeWasRight yeah, that's the worst part. They can't even do the rule of cool properly.

@crazyman8472 2 күн бұрын

The Rings of PRIIIIME strikes again! 🤦‍♀️

@bottlethrower1544 8 сағат бұрын

So weird. Bezos is a legit genius, love or hate him, its a fact... But here he is doubling down on a guaranteed flop 🤷‍♂️

@scotthudson8722 2 күн бұрын

“Sauron” is wearing clown ears

@RoseBaggins Күн бұрын

Someone on Twitter thought bunny ears ... 🤣🤣

@henrykfu 2 күн бұрын

You'd think with so much money backing this show, they would do better with the costumes and armor. Elrond's helmet looks like an oversized cosplay helmet and he has no protection on his elbows.

@europeanlore 2 күн бұрын

Agreed.

@PolBlanesCebrian 2 күн бұрын

I would argue 2 things: Kate Hawley is a great costume designer and has worked with Peter Jackson before, only in futuristic movies. She might lack experience in medieval and fantasy settings but I doubt that's the problem. More likely, the issue are the producers, making demands and being inflexible in their impetuous narcissism. The fact the helmet looks weird is in part because it has open cheeks and that makes it feel like it's about to fall. The producers probably thought "The spectators have to be able to see the actor's faces!!! But we WANT a helmet.." Just look at elrond in Peter Jackson's movies, never using a helmet. In fact only extras do, other than Faramir in a scene where the setting conveys the meaning and not the actor's face. It's an issue with the producers' inability to understand filmmaking and proper writing, which is why they hijacked the tolkien IP, to get free marketing and have their moment of free fame. Narcissists can't understand why people think they do things badly.

@Trencher1375 Күн бұрын

That troll look like it was made by A.I

@linushell4726 Күн бұрын

Jesus Christ, all they really had to do was take the armor from the LOTR prologue and stick it in here😂.

@KnotsOfWonders 2 күн бұрын

If you didn't tell me the title, I would have assumed it was a character from a marvel Thor movie.

@jamesmc04 2 күн бұрын

I knew it reminded me of something that had nothing to do with Tolkien. The armour probably contains gizmos for projecting force-fields, or something such.

@rocketraccoon1976 2 күн бұрын

Can't wait to see Elrond summon Godzilla from the sea to fight against Sauron's Monster Squad of the Balrog of Moria, Shelob, and Smaug! 🤗

@moonlambo5229 2 күн бұрын

The showrunners admitted the scripts for season 2 were already written before the first season even finished airing.

@dimitrisnikoloulis4071 2 күн бұрын

This is not excuse for such bad quality of the script. Those showrunners is like D&D in Game of Thrones. Rings of Power makes season 8 of Game of Thrones be a masterpiece.

@PolBlanesCebrian 2 күн бұрын

That doesn't really mean anything... writers start working long before they start filming, and obviously they would start working on season 2 as soon as possible after getting a green light.

@bottlethrower1544 8 сағат бұрын

Interesting how they treat their writing as sacrosanct, but wipe their bums with Tolkiens original writing

@sdev2749 2 күн бұрын

total train wreck

@fuzzyboots123 2 күн бұрын

I know I already commented about it on your post, but I just can't get over that helmet. I'm low-key hoping he took it from a dead solder & that'll explain why it doesn't sit quite right 😅

@michaelryan6342 2 күн бұрын

It's like they heard the criticisms and tried to pivot a little in an attempt to get closer, while maintaining their delusion that they were right on most counts. I think they think they are meeting fans in the middle. Which they are far from.

@bakedcreations8985 2 күн бұрын

When something is so extremely bad it turns good😂 im looking forward to watching it and laughing with my ass😂

@vana.johnson8845 2 күн бұрын

Circlets of Weakness:Bands of Impotency Doggie Stark looks so cool in his Western Army battle gear! Said No One! Yet I am really waiting to see Nori following her nose.

@ellerj641 Күн бұрын

I still find it hilarious that I was reading the appendices at the time of season 1 and I found not one thing from their show in the appendices. And their costumes are literally t-shirts with designs printed on them, cheap pieces of plastic, and cardboard. I do find it really sad though that I can no longer go on the internet and research stuff regarding Tolkien's lore. Almost everything are websites and forums of people trying so hard to justify RoP and make it seem like it really is Tolkien's works. I feel for any new or potential new fans who turn away because they see this steaming dog pile of crap and think how bad it is and Tolkien must not be worth reading. I wish we could go back before this whole show came out. It was quite peaceful and I was able to get my head start on Tolkien through the internet before I was finally able to buy the books. And I am grateful for Peter Jackson for making the movies and highly respect him for staying as close to the lore as possible. If it wasn't for him, I would never have known about Tolkien. Never once growing up did I ever see any books by Tolkien in my schools, libraries, or bookstores. If I want to buy one of his books, I have to search very hard or just order from Waterstones. And I am grateful to you European Lore for sharing which bookstores to order from. I finished buying all the books from Tolkien, and even found a rare set to add to my collection. Keep doing what you're doing and sharing books from him that I may not even know about like the History of the Hobbit. Thank you!

@RoseBaggins Күн бұрын

Sweet!! Congrats on getting that collection together!! And yes, I went through the appendices myself and didn't see much of it in the show. Yes, changes need to be made for adaptations, but not that much.

@pilroberts6185 Күн бұрын

I'll tell you what... Amazon is loving Disney. The Acolyte is so atrocious that Rings will never look worse than boring, mediocre and pedestrian.

@TaneTiare805 Күн бұрын

No, they didn't even bother to mention Isildur's brother Anarion. He is 10 years the younger, and at the time of the downfall, they were both around 100 years old! xD I can't seem to find the source for it, but I was under the impression that at one time Anarion had gone to Pelargir, before the downfall, as it was a sanctuary/haven for the Faithful of Numenor. Maybe he's hanging out there with Celeborn smoking mithril crack rocks and waiting to be saved by Guyladriel Hammerhand.

@m.b.boyack2228 2 күн бұрын

Robert Aaramayo, Elrond looking like the big, tough warrior, with that 'Habsburg Jaw' he could take down a battalion of orcs on his own. Hellboy too, being desecrated also this week, make it stop. aren't these 'story tellers' embarrassed at all, have they no pride?

@RoseBaggins Күн бұрын

Constant answer seems to be ... no.

@amielbenson 2 күн бұрын

What would you do brother? I’m curious, would you do a character study or a wide sweeping saga or…? If it was up to you. Maybe not even LoTR …

@europeanlore 2 күн бұрын

I would never do any adaptations ever again. And my KZfaq channel? My favourite kind of videos is reviews of good books and films.

@gavdalf5573 Күн бұрын

I was watching the simpsons on tv the other night and they showed the episode of Mr Burns in his mansion with a room containing ‘1000 monkeys with 1000 typewriters,’ who Burns claims will soon have written the greatest novel known to man. I thought to myself this is how rings of prime was written.." “it was the best of times, it was the blurst of times“ 🤣

@dakotaturner6701 2 күн бұрын

I thought that thumbnail was photoshopped

@zoebaggins90 Күн бұрын

The armor is pretty good, but the helmet is just stupid.

@redzisan 2 күн бұрын

I hope there will be more equality and diversity in season 2. I want see white orcs, black orks and asian orcs !

@vojtam5063 2 күн бұрын

I really wonder whether it was intentional not to buy the rights to the silmarillion or whether they did not know, that there is another book out there.

@ChristopherAalto Күн бұрын

thank you for making content for wigs of power! feels great to come home from a hard days work and eating my cerial and watching EL ! :D

@europeanlore Күн бұрын

Hail!

@darkrai1986 2 күн бұрын

Acording to leaks Adar and Sauron fell out because Adar killed Saurons only son!!!

@Adam-sd2ow Күн бұрын

Is that a friendly cave troll? 😂

@bree1332 Күн бұрын

Wow, I'm really out of the loop I haven't heard about any of this 😅 ...Uh on the bright side maybe Gil-Galad will have more than five minutes of screen time this time around? They did name drop Anarion once I think.

@SmedleyDouwright 2 күн бұрын

When is season 2 of "The Rings of Praaiime" to be released?

@europeanlore 2 күн бұрын

Fall 2024 I think

@akseiya Күн бұрын

The costume does look better than season 1 "armour" did. It still makes a strong impression that a tween Californian had a good read of 50 Shades of Grey and decided to 3d print the sketch she felt inspired to doodle after the deep, enlightening read. All you need is just a look as long as you watched some costume drama made by filmmakers in the past and compare the subjective impression of believability between cinema and Amazon stuff. Now if I could only look at the cuirass and shoulders, possibly mounted on a manequin in a museum, it would be half decent if I paid no attention. But here it is pretending to protect a warrior in combat. Now that the excuse for stans to say "pff you so vague, you're just a hater" is out of the way, now it's the time to give a reason to them to tell me to go touch grass (preferably in the same response). We got told to do it by stans and shills of the Acoshyte and Nurse What and we did just that. Now it's time to repeat the process for Amazon's own 50 Shades. The helmet and the armguards look particularly fake, shapes of both SCREAM "we 3d-printed this out of the cheapest plastic". There is no armour production process that could end up in something so obviously plastic. It would be fitting if I could meme it with "when you order your armour from Amazon" but sadly for my memelord career, it looks more like "when you order your armour from Wish". The crest is seriosuly ridiculous. The one function it might serve is that when you miss a hit to the head ways up, the opponent's skull will at least get yanked hard. Crest on a centurion galea and later iterations of it were brightly coloured for a reason. Shiny parts (supposedly plate armour, I guess) do not include couters and gauntlets. No goussets either. The missing couter shows an elbow clad in what could easily be one of my hoodies. Hey, at least it doesn't have the "chainmail" print on it. The plackart is kinda OK, although marrying Peter Jackson's elven armour to a lorica segmentata does rob it of some credibility. The breastplate, though, is an obvious single piece with pointless deep grooves. The amount of material used on shoulder "decorations" and the crest would prolly be enough for a gorget. The weapon looks like a Walmart toy. Literally "Real Ninja Dussack! $5.99!". A lot of pointless crap there and little that looks anything like armour. A proper reco nerd like @shadiversity would probably blast this with a low-orbit ion cannon, a dilettante like me can easily see which idiotic details lead to the "armour" looking terrible, a normie will still get an impression of fakeness and cheapness even without getting into details. The mind of a shill seems to me to be a good basis for a whole sub-branch of psychiatry. Unless he's well paid to say "this an awesome suit of epic fantasy armour", of course. Or expects to get fired otherwise.

@ChadKakashi 2 күн бұрын

7:56 Passion of the Valar. He became a Maia for our sins.

@thespyingeyeofmordor Күн бұрын

With Agandaur being the first pope of the Melkorite Church before the Akallebeth.

@thenazgul9966 Күн бұрын

Annatar looks like a reject from a bible film

@ChadKakashi 2 күн бұрын

The actor looks from wish too.

@thespyingeyeofmordor Күн бұрын

What the hell is that armor? Way worse than the Dol Guldur Assault armor Elrond wore.

@barneysoldierson54 2 күн бұрын

If not for this channel I would not even know this show is getting season 2. People just hate watch this stuff.

@anonymussicarius8899 Күн бұрын

I think you are being unfair: given the fact that they had to reduce the cost of the costume department, it is amazing that they seem to have managed to hold their "level of quality"! ;p

@bottlethrower1544 8 сағат бұрын

Get ready to start getting 100k views

@AlexAlex-zt3hi 2 күн бұрын

Hes the real orc, a dark elf, or something like that. The hobbit was a shadow of the glory LOTR (movie wise), but they tried to make something good....rop is just awful

@anon-yw4wd 2 күн бұрын

Huh, my comment was deleted.

@europeanlore 2 күн бұрын

What did you say? Try saying it... differently :D

@rickthelearner5631 2 күн бұрын

Peter Jackson's armour for Elrond is 1000 times better than this crap. Who made this joke?

@mxvega1097 2 күн бұрын

Oh, they have a Cave Troll. Excellent. And a dude with his head stuck through a duvet inner. Excellent. What about the florist? Did the florist survive?? Wasn't she shipping Alien-dir or whatever his name is? This will be a corporate entertainment suck fest of epic proportions. Again.

@VishnuZutaten 2 күн бұрын

QED

@dimitrisnikoloulis4071 2 күн бұрын

The quality of House of the Dragon , Rings of Power will never find it. Thrown money in vain. The project failed. From the beginning. Pity for Tolkien.Not a good choice the second age.

@fantasywind3923 Күн бұрын

Ughh Adar....one of the most insane ideas they had.....why the heck they needed that character!? He is useless....his presence adds pointless drama and hell even for a 'first generation orc' he is an odd discordant element that doesn't fit at all!!! Hell if he would be indeed some sort of first generation orc...he should look WAAAY more monstrous or twisted in-between stage between elf form and orcish body...I guess they were blowing too much budget on the CGI and so forgot to make him proper orcish prosthetics! :) As a character he is just uhhh ridiculously bad attept at trying to whitewash orcs and trying to bring that edginess oh look this character has more complexity...but in truth he is nothing but a pathetic dark lord wannabe lesser even than Saruman!!!!!!! Thematically he is not interesting...as he doesn't really explore any new facet of the Orcs as a people or doesn't tell anything poignant about them! At least if they explored that maybe he would managable....but he is an odd element that does not fit into Tolkien work....hell at this point I would have preferred a simple orc chieftain of the likes of Great Goblin, Azog or Bolg!! Heck in actual Tolkien's Middle-earth...such a being as Adar would have been crushed by Sauron immediately....he is nothing next to him!

@captaincruloc3200 Күн бұрын

How do you spend that much money on a production and look that cheap? The writers have no talent, costume designers have no talent, production and direction is talentless. What is this crap? All the stuff we have loved since childhood and made fun of for loving.....is now under the control of those that made fun of us.

@sagethegreat4680 Күн бұрын

Amazon's own words on season 2 says it all about why rings of power and most everything else else Hollywood does now will ultimately fail . They said in season 2 sauron will be like Walter white . The problem there is sauron is sauron and should look and act like sauron. Walter white is Walter white and should look and act like Walter white . If you want Walter White make something breaking bad , don't make lord of the rings . Elrond looks more like a Roman soldier, rather than an elvish one . The Creativity is gone everything needs to be something else it was never meant to be .

@JamesS-xz8to 2 күн бұрын

Rings of Poo

@fantasywind3923 Күн бұрын

As much as I don't want to do this again....the comparisons are i..the inevitable House of the Dragon and this prime ringing circlets :) in origin both rely on very short summary of events not a full narrative with full on dialogues and story...and yet somehow HBO managed much better job, than amazon! And heck there are obvioulsy original ideas in House of the Dragon, things they added of their own....but dammit the Amazon primordial ringlets are way worse fanfic garbage ENTIRELY based on their garbage ideas that are not even worth anything on their own, the contrast is unbelievable! While House of the Dragon managed to build something.... and actually implement their own things to further emphasise the source material, Amazon just simply ruins the great story by entirely ditching it in favor of their own stupid inventions!!!!!!!!! The armor and costumes and general aesthetics....woooh they are rough...how is it possible that they constantly make it worse and worse...hell for all it's fanciness the armors of Lotr movies and heck even Hobbit films were somehow better than...this? It's obvious that this odd helmet is attempt at imitating the elven helmets seen in the prologue of Lotr....and yet it seems worse and more ridiculous :).

@brimstonewinpete9306 23 сағат бұрын

Jesus that armor looks like shit

@iglesiadesaitamadelosultim5251 16 сағат бұрын

The Rings of Diversity

@Tallacus 20 сағат бұрын

Weta knows this show is bad so they gave them half ass work

@JohnSmith-ve8mj 2 күн бұрын

All the money and you still lack class, Peter Jackson still does it 2000% better!!

@brolaf3792 2 күн бұрын

poop

@3characterhandlerequired 2 күн бұрын

It will be another crapshow. There is no fixing the broken timeline and multitude of lore breaking. I'll watch show reviews once they start because it is fun to laugh to it with likeminded people, but I could not care less about show itself.

@theNobleRooster Күн бұрын

Eww

@Mantelar 19 сағат бұрын

Looks like skyrim, except not fun

@roryfoley4943 Күн бұрын

Not to dissa this woke crap but will guydrial release the tempest again will the dwarf women have beards. Will sauron turn out hes not the dark lord or evil just mis understood...even more stunning questions will it have actors and writers stay tuned .. to find out .then again god no i think i shall forget this just like season 1.n never watch😂