i respect it, however nah

no I don't want to

no

I don’t want me steam account hacked

no, i'd rather have fun on my spare time

Because Valve isn’t a game studio anymore.

That's not true@@crimsonpomp

And? I'd rather have them not release something than do shit and fuck it up like just about every other studio does. In Rockstar's case, people were angry they weren't working on GTA 6. how entitled to you have to be to be angry at a developer for NOT making a game? They do things great, when they do them, whereas most developers do things shit, ALL the time.

@@hongkongphooye2576 Except they are straight up deciding to not make games, instead relying on steam for income

valve just seemed to move on. they seem to be just working on their software rn like the steam client or linux proton. their chilling rn, other libary options are just bad and pumped full of company greed. every company having enought resources to compete whit steam just chooses to try and beat steam instead of just being a good option people would enjoy using besides steam and use the things steam dont covers for their advantage.

It's true valve would love the idea But knowing how nintendo hates everyone who messes with their stuff And get pretty aggressive

Valve also hired a new attorney recently

@@AndrewDasilvaPLT Not really relevant to the point but yes they did

@@user-hb8xh6np1f Don't see how an attorney and being sued aren't relevant to each other.

@@yackerist what im saying is that new or old attorney, valve would still have pulled the plug on the project, as they could run into legal trouble with nintendo

Gabe hates Tony because he ate all the Gabagool.

@@oOignignoktOo1 lol :D this must be the *true* reason.

lets gooo tf3

@@isyeayesyup lets go!!!!!!!!!

Time to make 20 videos on this one comment I saw

a new tf3 means ppl like me who play tf2 will have less players which means tf3 will have less players. dividing your community is a bad idea and is a very corporate greed thing to do. also please tell me ur joking about tf3

@@soldier22881 on fr hes not joking of course its coming

LBP was (a big part of) my childhood so... yeah can't complain.

So the S.a. game is ok?

Nice cope

@@psyche1988 Nice IQ.

@@CarbonOtterit's below room temp

@@CarbonOtter I mean, he's not completely wrong. Yes, other games can flourish and be created; but that still doesn't excuse VALVe doing absolutely nothing with their IP's.

That's the thing though... Their IPs are theirs to do what they want, so it's not something we should see as an innate negative. Plus they promote modding their games as full mod listings on Steam so they aren't entirely restrictive on IP usage. To me, not making games may suck for expected sequels, but it isn't otherwise a bad thing if that effort goes toward something that does lead to new games. You do have a valid point, just not a definitive one in my opinion.@@QuiteSimplyInsane

made by the same guy who made cuck simulator, great dev

Artifact is a good game with a terrible marketing. It's one of the best existing PC card games. CS2 is in very much playable state and people who scream how the game is broken and unplayable are delusional.

@@d4cto I was moreso thinking about CS2's lack of content and how it's accentuated because Valve removed CSGO so they wouldn't have to leave all the valuable items in an abandoned game. They allowed the pursuit of riches to compromise their integrity, just like every other big company. As for Artifact, it has been a while, so maybe my memory has caused me to misunderstand what happened with that game. I can't imagine though why Valve would abandon it so quickly if it was such a good game.

@@parmesanbrawler7183 Artifact was abandoned because it had two digits player number. It's marketing was not just terrible - it was disastrous even though a lot of people who played Magic The Gathering said that the game is actually very good.

@@parmesanbrawler7183 Artifact was a good game however it suffered from 2 major issues, that being the very questionable monetization model, and how overly complicated the game was. The monetization model was their attempt at replicating the MTG monetization model, that being you have to buy individual booster packs, but you can then trade/sell individual cards to whomever you want. The big sticking point however was the fact that the game didn't really offer a way to get more booster packs for free like you could in say Hearthstone or Gwent. That paired with the fact that the game had a price tag meant that the value was extremely unappealing to most players. The other problem was how ridiculously complicated the game was compared to games like MTG and Hearthstone. The game had you playing on 3 boards at the same time, with a bunch of hero cards with varying spell cards that matched the hero, alongside different types of hero cards that matched with different spells, and then you had to gain and spend gold to get items, all of which were cards you had to assemble at the start of the round... point is it was a complete mess which was fun once you learned how to play but nobody wanted to spend the time and effort to do so.

@@parmesanbrawler7183 Artifact was partially doomed as a result of it being a Valve product, as in, additionally being the release that broke the preceding drought and people were just plain disappointed that "this" is what they got, they also wanted to emulate a real-world card economy- but it definitely looks greedy within the digital space and had to compete with other standout titles alongside it such as Hearthstone for example- would you rather move over to a brand new game that you've heard negative things about or would you stick to your comfort zone? As for Counter-Strike 2, it's doing "fine" despite what you hear on social media, especially as far as Valve is concerned; CS:GO content will be re-evaluated and reworked back into the game once the core game is settled; when it comes to the economy items, the series as a whole is essentially doomed to this identity and preserving them, their function/form, and their value through the ages, since you risk toppling trust for not only for present/future players, but players for other Valve games as well and as such must be treated with extreme care and respect; ultimately what we all see as "Counter-Strike 2" here is of course mostly just a lengthy code port over to Source 2 alongside a redesign process for the majority of the assets (which is the easiest part for them)... it certainly has a ton more effort put into it than Overwatch 2, but they are absolutely playing it mostly safe and patiently rather than living dangerously and in the moment.

HLAlyx could have been a FPS game and nothing about the gameplay would change. All they do is waste time on VR so the expensive headsets might a use in the future while letting their IPs rot and selling everyone else's games.

Between DOTA 2 (2013) and Half Life: Alyx (2020) they released one game, Artifact (2019), which was abandoned as quickly and unceremoniously as it came, if another videogame developer had those numbers on their belt you would say the "Fallen off" thing, specially when most of their regular updates on their already existing games are just made by the community, but since they made an amazing game 20 years ago and can live off from selling cosmetics through virtual gambling and other peoples games through their hosting service I guess they really haven't fallen off as a videogame developer...

​@@EinSilverRose Half-Life was always about innovation, what else could they even innovate with PC gaming as it is now? There's also a group of modders that made a No VR version of the game and there's at least more than one person who has made a playthrough of it As someone who grew up watching let's plays of multiple games because my family can't afford consoles, some people just have to accept that they can't play a game themselves

DUDE have you seen the abysmal state CS2 is in? It's not even half a year old and already an unfinished and neglected game simultaneously!!!

@@sskuk1095 Jesus Christ 🥲

I think its a matter of the interesting stuff that could be done with a project. Its fascinating to compare TF2 to Dota 2 for instance. Dota 2 was fully released over a decade ago at this point, and yet Valve still releases content at an impressive scale. Compared to any other competitive game on the market, its like Valve has a Carte Blanche to do whatever they want, and use that to transform the game with big new changes on an annual basis TO THIS DAY. I imagine part of it could be that Dota 2 has a much cleaner code base so the devs enjoy making content for the game a lot more than they do in TF2's massive spaghetti code base.

@@Absolute_Zero7 yeah, it make sense, I didn't consider this

Blah blah blah, where is tf2 heeby update then?

blah blah blah, mf you forgot about Alyx and CS2.

No, they are still very much focused on gaming. They started making hardware ...for games. They want to make brain-computer interfaces ...for games. They're developing VR technologies ...for games. They continue to develop Proton to make Windows _games_ run on Linux. The Steam Deck is for playing Steam _games_ on a handheld pc. Their VR headsets are made for, and marketed towards, GAMES. Their most recent major project (that has been announced) was a massive update to their biggest GAME. Valve is still 100% a game company.

​@@vibaj16 you're missing something important in your reply, valve is still innovating outside of the game itself, on the technologies used for the game. Especially with half life and portal, each time they bring some new technology to the table, they make a game on top of it to show off it's capabilities (half life alyx and aperture hand lab come to mind, actually half life itself is a show off of what the source engine can do 😉)

@@sourlemon360 more like their technology can be used outside of games, but it's intended for games

cry about it, old man

Rise and Shine, Mr Freeman

clickbait

another youtuber just blatantly spouting shit without knowing what they're saying

@@viper5801 yea he also hates ai and complains about racism because there is game named "Tyrone vs. Cops"

@@anaturn12 I mean, those are completely understandable standpoints. but I just rolled my eyes seeing the whole tf2 source 2 and portal 64 thing brought up like it means anything, valve hasn't changed, their products just have.

Yeah i dont get him either on this. Who cares if the game has lel boobies in it or even if it was a game about decapitating Sheeps. Like why ban that stuff? Because he doesent like it? I dont like Cats but i dont think Games with cats should be banned or anything. I also dont like Lolis but i dont think games with that should be banned either. This was just a bizarre take from him.

Which is full of ripped assets from the Pokémon franchise, and will certainly get nuked by Nintendo's legal team. Oh how fitting

@@bara555 eh, the pace it's growing at, even tho i haven't played it, it feels impossible to go down rn, people are certainly enjoying it more than Pokémon even tho it's a copy. Palworld and Pokemon are perfect representation of the meme "You are just a knockoff" "Oh no I am the upgrade"

@@sleeper6548 While I agree on the game being allegedly better than pokémon, (based on opinions I've heard) legally, the size and clout of the game has no weight at all.

@@commygames for the ripped assets, just look at them. For the easy court case.. the same ripped assets, and common sense.

@@bara555 Yeah I'm sure the lawyer will come in and say "just look at them" and win instantly. You have no idea what you're talking about.

Taking down source 2 tf2 wasn’t even because they were making the game it’s because the developers were doing some shady stuff

@@dadhj I don't know any specefics, but i know that it would be completely fair even if they were legit.

@@oliver-nation4377 wait I just found out why it was because of the assets they were using were unsafe it was risking the security of the source 2 engine so valve made them take the game down

@@dadhj And your souce for this is?

@@oliver-nation4377 valve

Yeah his Moderation point was just not good. Like i get the annoyance of steam not marking loot box games as 18+ but he didint mention that. But even so why should horny bait games be Banned? And yeah while the prison game example sounded fd up. Its still a game. If the games audio was taken from someting like this really hapening then fine i can agree with that but its Fiction! Who cares? I hate cats but im not asking Stray to be banned because it triggers me.

Exactly. A monopolist who doesn't censor at all is in each and every way better than a monopolist who tries to push his own agenda/morality via censorship.

yep, that's the issue. The gaming industry has matured. It's a lot harder to innovate now than it used to be

tf2 doesnt even need new content, its doing fine. if your gonna complain about no content thenlook at the other game franchises like half life

tf2 had its all time player peak last summer, and is consistently top 15 to top 10 players on steam and its a 16 year old game, cs2 has been consistently the top game on steam with almost twice the players of dota 2 right now, and its only topped by palworld which just came outt.

Fair, but to me the problem is more about how laxxed Valve is about it, just like in his example with AI, people will lie and skirt around the limits to get their slop games sold, and there's no telling how far Valve will want to go just to enforce their almost non-existent guidelines.

Don't get me wrong, I think the sentiment is great, and on an individual level I 100% agree with him. but I personally believe that when you're a buhjillion dollar corporation you should be held to a higher standard. There's lots of things I personally dislike that I don't think should be banned at all, but there's also lots of things I think a corporation like valve shouldn't be entertaining on their platform

@@htwo1 You might be correct from your point of view- but for me, the higher standard is reinforcing freedom of speech, instead of taking the path of least resistance like most companies do these days.

@@htwo1 I seriously don't understand how going against freedom of expression on the devs side and freedom of choice on the players side is in any way equal to "higher standard".

​@@htwo1so you think that just because valve is a big corporation they should practice cencorship? Why whould you champion that? What if Valve got it in their heads that Blood was someting to be cencored, is that just allright because theyre a big corporation who should keep a good image? That seems backwards and i highly disagree.

@@draw2death421 pancakes and waffles tweet ass comment smh

Yeah valve isnt the CCP

Agreed. That was the only awful take he had in the video tho. He really came off as a Soccer mom there who thinks Skyrim should be banned because it shows decapitation. Like wtf.

The title of saying Valve "fell" was already a dumb non-starter, that could be generously attributed as click-bait. Valve is still doing great and making great products. But we'll all continue to be a bit bitter that we can't have HL3.

@@HaloHunter2552 I'm sorry but how come VALVe has not fallen from grace? They went from releasing some of the most well crafted videogames of all time to ignoring blatant issues in one of the most popular games in their catalogue, releasing an unfinished sequel to one of their most popular IPs and creating overpriced hardware that nobody asked for while living of a monopoly on PC videogame distribution (Because they don't publish the vast majority of games on Steam, they just host the games so people can buy and download them for a percentage of the sales, in esence they are more like a virtual GameStop than a publisher) and cosmetic microtransactions, if EA or Ubisoft where the developers of TF2 or CS2 everyone would be landblasting them for the sorry state both games are and the fact that any consistent content update on both games are cosmetics that are made by just importing assests made by the comunity, but since VALVe made HL2 ALMOST 20 YEARS AGO they get a pass on whatever dumb shit they do.

​@@goldenweegee007 Points of response: 1) Steam Deck, and various other hardware projects. The steam controller was a flop, but a very cool flop. I wish I had the VR set. I was gifted a VR headset that I'm struggling to make work due to it being limited to Windows software. They've also made a lot of open source contributions, but considering you call it overpriced crap, I'm guessing you wouldn't understand why that's so beneficial. All I can say is I disagree. It's not over priced crap. 2) Half Life: Alyx. That wasn't just a prequel. The ending gave a very strong indication that valve is NOT done with Half Life. They still release well crafted games. 3) Games were nearly unplayable for any Linux users, if not for the (still recent and ongoing) efforts by Valve. The only issue I can see is with TF2. You're right. It's an issue. But one issue does not mean Valve has fallen.

@@HaloHunter2552 1) You are forgetting the Steam Machine, it's not your fault, VALVe also wishes to forget about that, as for VR, I honestly don't care about it, it's a gimmick, right now the price point and lack of software is holding it back and it doesn't matter how much Meta or VALVe want to pretend it's the future, it's gonna take between 5-10 years at best for it to finally become mainstream and even then that's not a guarantee for it to replace the way people game for today since many genres are hard to convert to it, also as for the Steam Deck, there where many portable PCs on the market before VALVe made it's own, I guarantee some of them are even cheaper than the Deck so I don't know what kind of hardware innovation there is on that front. 2) Between DOTA2 (2013) and Half Life: Alyx (2020) VALVe released just one more game, Artifact, which even if it was a good game it doesn't compare to the amount of praise VALVe got from the games they released between 2004-2013, if that's not falling off for you then there's no point in arguing. 3) I am under the impression you game on Linux, I'm glad VALVe has not abandoned Unix inside the gaming sphere and has made great strides for it to be simpler, but that isn't just the same as creating genre defining games that have had a lasting impact in the entirety of the gaming industry, we can at least agree on that, right? 4) TF2 isn't just an issue, it's a whole deal, it's not just the bot crisis, there's a shit ton of bugs that have been occurring on the game for years that VALVe has not bothered to fix, just recently they started implementing bug fixes made by the community because they just don't care, it's also the fact the game hasn't had a substantial update since 2017 yet the community made cosmetics every single summer/Halloween/Christmas every single year shows that they just want to keep making money of a community they don't care about supporting. CS2 isn't fairing any better, they released a half baked sequel with a ton missing content from the previous installment, the sub-tick system they implemented didn't fix the hit-reg issues that CSGO had and it also added a whole new amount of issues that could've been sussed out on the beta version if it was properly tested before release, while also not addressing the rampant hacking and smurfing problems that CSGO was notorious for, and the cherry on top? CS2 replaced CSGO so you can't even play that game for whatever reason you have, simply because they wanted more skin money, I understand they will fix the game given time, but there was no reason to release the game on the state it was, the community has complained instantly about it and even some pro players have spoken about how the game was simply not ready for competitive play, yet there are forced to use it because VALVe took the other alternative from us. They have many more issues, like the lack of QA on Steam, I understand not banning games for being lewd or racist, but there has been more than a few games that had malware on them and it's documented, how about the time they teamed up with Bethesda to implement paid mods? There are many more issues that I'm forgetting, but the latest mod takedowns are uniquely uncharacteristic for VALVe, considering that most of their most successful games started as mods before being the giants they are. VALVe HAS fallen off, and if we keep defending them for their obvious fuck ups instead of holding them accountable for the mistakes they made then it will never rise up to be the amazing gaming company it was

clickbait i think

not literally fall, just theoretically, morally, fancy terms like that

They didn't make any more games and tbh the companies structure should probably be changed because it really doesn't work because if an argument breaks out and neither side can agree on a solution that problem doesn't get solved

@@isyeayesyup thank you person with eggcat pfp

For algorithmic reasons mostly. I might change it back :D

lmao so true

@@jammingend3781 His hypocrisy is off the charts

@@DJ_Trolly69 Here's a question for you: If you were offered THOUSANDS of dollars to talk about a shitty mobile game for a few minutes in your imaginary KZfaq video that is, in this case, almost an hour long, would you take it? I probably would. Clearly he would as well.

I don't get it, what's the issue ?

@@flarys6732 The issue is that the commenter forgot you need money to keep the lights on.

So where is this information from? or is it just random shit?

@@sumfagola What's stopping you from looking it up?

@@Geiger_ What's stopping the person making the claim from proving it?

Yeah, I think there was an unspoken "this type of action game" but even then that's really debatable. Honestly a lot of the video just feels... loosely written.

its from the half life 2 soundtrack, called "triage at dawn"

Thank youuu!!

the reason they issued the takedown for TFS2 was because the game wasn't made using the source engine, meaning the assets came from presumably unauthorized channels? Does it suck? 10000% but in this age where everyone's trying to steal something from someone, it makes sense that valve would be a bit more protective of their IP.... it just sucks all around tbh I'm on no one's side it just sucks

minor error: S&ndbox has it's own version of Source 2 running; so not even the S2 SDK is finalized nor available for public dev use. Reason being that Valve themselves would release it to the public for dev use if it were.

You say that but then, what is the focus of Valve right now, and how did community related stuff end up lately for them? Especially with TF2, where community based updates like Invasion and End of the line were utter failures even though it all seemed amazing before those updates actually got released to the public. That's something I never hear anyone talk about in relation to this. Valve has no reason to hire these guys because of what they experienced already, nothing guarantees that it would end up well and if anything they only have reasons to think it would end up for the worse, and would only end up being a pain in their rear. Sucks a *lot* but it's honestly not surprising.

@simplysmiley4670 True, Invasion and End of the Line were failures. If I remember right, the main issues with those updates were internal disputes over who got paid what, and slow communication with Valve, both of which wouldn't be issues with proper contracts and Valve's direct support. Also, the recent community updates have been a huge success, with Versus Saxton Hale pushing the game to a new concurrent player record.

Uhum, now indite the microtransaction paragraph about selling a $1.5 million toy knife.

@@White927 I definitely came off hostile in the way I wrote my comment back then, as I was merely returning in kind. I have an idealistic problem with people bitching with a personal agenda. However, don't expect me to defend the fact that Valve started the trend of lootboxes and remains the sole beneficiary of this monetization scheme, while every other AAA has moved on. It's their home turf, while it keeps getting outlawed in most countries they will continue to circumvent it to avoid uprooting their gray market economy, of which people themselves are responsible for the exorbitant prices they charge for the skins. If Valve tried to ruin the economy (which they did several times and consequently pulled back given the backlash) there would be a lot more hysterics and controversy involved aside from the usual cheating and bots. That's when CS2 would be truly dead to people.

@@scylorn Albeit this would be the main quandary for me, when in years of lack of games and distrust, only mazuma guarantees the studio's murky future. It's hard to visually perceive where Valve would have impeccably rectified many things about their destiny, or ensured to reprimand the prevarications in the construction of the demos. I can't cerebrate of any other manufacturer besides Valve that sold poorly relinquished games on CD in the pre-Steam era. (ID software aside, Doom on PC was very exasperating and buggy) Most people don't inculpate them for what transpired, especially EA, who to this day get the "ace" and were partners in running TF2's dead network maintenance interface on the PS3 console. I accede with almost everything you verbalized and without descrying your comment I would have realized that this video was nothing more than a trinket of a perspective. Valve isn't impeccable at everything, microtransactions are an immensely colossal mistake.

I see tits on steam and im like AAAAAA

its trash that prevents the market place from showcasing actually cool games, but whatever the money goes.

he did cover it briefly in the orange box section

i think it was the reason orange box even existed along with portal and TF2 as a bundle

uh yeah, the point of the orange box was that they had 3 games to release at once; tf2, portal, and ep2, so they decided to make the best deal in all of gaming by packaging them together including base hl2 and ep1

Yep, they only drop.

Reddit mentality

They didn’t fall, they just went from being titans in the gaming industry to not making any good games for over a decade. Completely neglecting their most popular series for absolutely no reason

@@williambutcher7429 Did you read the Book Half Life: Alyx - The Final Hours? If not do it. They didn't stoppend making games, they wanted to make more games, but the Development of Source 2 was difficult and lengthy process. Also because of all the anticipation for a new HL Game they had no motivation to do anything in the universe because they had doubts about living up to these expectations.

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