Interestingly the Clone Wars Season 2 has a scene that supports your thinking about certain creatures just being highly "resistant" to mind tricks instead of being completely immune. In the scene a captured bounty hunter named Cad Bane is being interrogated by Obi Wan, Anakin and Mace Windu. Bane is a Duros, a species known to be "immune" to Jedi mind tricks, but when all three jedi use the trick at once to force their way through they are able to successfully control him for just about a second before he wrenches it back from them, visibly pained and distressed as he does so. When Anakin suggests trying again, Bane willingly cooperates with his Jedi captors over suffering the trick a second time.

Rey: "I bypassed the character developement!"

"I am all the Sith!" "And I, am Iron Man!" - Rey Lars or whichever family name she's co-opted now

Okay, I respect the hell out of you for sticking to the original canon, but as someone whose first introduction was Clone Wars and to this day remains my favorite ignoring it feels like a lightsaber to the gut 🤣 That being said, I didn’t know the original story of the Mon Calamari and honestly I love the concept of the empire finding a fledgling space faring race and angering them so much that they go from full pacifist to all out warrior people in less than a decade.

Think the difference between luke and rey is that we see luke actually be shit at things. Luke rushes his training, he loses his hand, he gets his teeth kicked in, we actually see him gradually get more powerful in a way that feels more believable Rey on the other hand is just good at everything. The most we see her struggle is when she cries about her parents. She wins every duel, she escapes every bad situation, she just succeeds without issue

28:09 Describing Kylo Ren as merely “an edgy teenage dropout” fails to raise the important and embarrassing fact that Ben Solo is *29* years old in the first two films and *30* in The Rise of Skywalker. Imagine reaching 29 and still carrying the emotional immaturity of a teenager who threw a tantrum at Hot Topic because his mommy wouldn’t pay for a My Chemical Romance t-shirt. EDIT: Ben “Solo,” not Ben “Skywalker.” (Sorry, I clearly had the superior Skywalker descendant named “Ben” on the mind while writing.)

About the Mustafar stuff, you're thinking about it wrong: A) The sequence with the trees was never meant to be set on Mustafar. Someone came up with that connection later. I'm not sure WHO or WHY they decided to place this scene on Mustafar, except that they realized that Vader would have kept his Wayfinder on Mustafar, but realized it too late or didnt care to film anything that makes sense. B) The "Vader Immortal" video game attempts to explain why there are young trees on the planet. Their reasoning was a later justification, of course. C) the enemies fighting the First Order on "Mustafar" also don't look like Mustafarians. The EASIEST explanation for this scene would be to just say that the wayfinder was stored somewhere else. Not Mustifar.

The thing that really stands out about Luke's training in the OT is that there's no clear indication of how long it takes in the movies. All the viewer knows is that he trained after "Episode 4: A New Hope". And when Luke and the others escape after the Battle of Hoth, all we know is that the Millennium Falcon's hyperdrive doesn't work and it takes Han, Leia and the rest an unspecified amount of time to reach Bespin. That gives Luke an opportunity to train with Yoda. And after Luke's encounter with Darth Vader and before the rescue of Han Solo, there's again an uncertain amount of time that passes between the movies, during which Luke could have returned to Yoda to continue his training. Sometimes, the best way to tell a story is to not tell the complete story and to leave certain parts out of it. That leaves room for imagination and gives the audience an opportunity to ask questions. The sequels on the other hand have forgotten about all of that. They happen literally five minutes after each other. Theyarelikeareallylongsentencewithoutspacesthatdoesntletyoubreatheorthink. And one thing I noticed specifically about J.J. Abrams is that he doesn't know how to handle distance and travelling as a narrative device. All of his films feel like they're set in a really small town and getting from one place to another is as trivial as crossing the street. That's why in his films, you can be on the surface of one planet, look up in the sky and see other planets on the other side of the galaxy being destroyed. Or get anywhere in the galaxy in minutes with what's essentially a lifeboat.

"Rey Disney" ... Most appropriate name I've heard for her yet!

oh, your solution is so much more elegant and it's so obvious. I love it, it's beautiful! The whole thing with Luke guarding ancient sacred texts while hiding and it being literal actual scrolls and books in a non-hermetically sealed room on an oceanworld was always so obviously flimsy. Having him hide on a basically empty oceanworld to guard the knowledge that someone else is the knowledge bank until the right time is a much better justification. It also not only retroactively justifies Rey's absurdly strong early powers, but it's a genuinely unexpected and exciting twist in the third movie that forces you to go back and rewatch the first for clues you missed.

Wow I really like that origin story for Rey a lot better than any of the others I've heard

It should be noted that the Mon Cal are in the animated clones wars, and have been since I think season 2 or 3 of that show

I love the series as a whole but I do highly recommend watching both the animated shows the clone wars and rebels, they both have excellent stories and plenty of lore that I think is really interesting and cool!

In the original trilogy and even the prequels; our heroes at the end aren't the same people they were at the beginning of their story. They changed, they evolved, they grew up. Everyone in the sequel trilogy is nearly exactly the same as they were when we first met them or as they were at the end of Force Awakens. If you put a gun to my head, I still couldn’t tell you what development any of them were supposed to have.

"Not ideal," he says, and yet utterly more captivating, believable, and entertaining than a single moment in the movie.

The "training" montage with the TTS voice was hilarious. Your acumen and passion for this series is pretty incredible, and I hope you continue to make content like this. By the way, I can wholeheartedly recommend the 3D Clone Wars, in terms of an "alternate universe" done right. The later seasons are pretty great, even if they do go up against established lore. Some changes are for the better, and some for worse, of course.

Teleportation was used in Star Wars Legends, but it was specifically stated to be a rare Force ability that was fairly energy-intensive and required a lot of time to master.

JJ clearly likes Kotor or at least someone he listens to does, but just didn't think about what doing that would do, as usual. The Dyad thing, Force healing, and a bit of Kylo's helmet design being a bit like Revan's to name a few.

Finally I can rest in peace now that this movie has had its funeral

This series has completely justified my disdain for the entire sequel trilogy. Sheer incompetence in story telling. You know, I don't have a problem with Rey specifically as an archetype; she could've been the sequel era's Bastila Shan (frankly if she were a Shan, I would've accepted that WAY more than her being a Palpatine) but she was just so terribly written, I feel bad for Daisy for having had to play such a crummy character. The same extends to everyone else. Finn could've been awesome - kind of a Kyle Katarn-type, but he became a one-note wonder. And poor Poe was relegated to the role of 'Basil Exposition' by the third film. The series should be viewed as a 'what not to do' with a long running franchise. Whereas you can take examples like Mad Max Fury Road, Blade Runner 2049 and even Strange New Worlds as perfect examples of how to properly ADD to the lore, while still doing sort of their own thing at the same time, and actually do justice with the source material and above all remaining consistent with what came before.

Folding space/teleportation first appeared in the 1998 Star Wars novel Vision of the Future by Timothy Zahn. It was a power of the mysterious Aing-Tii Monks who had a unique attunement with the force

6:58 Oooh! I've been waiting for this one since 2016. Every biotic can be hand waved away, by the concept of their biotic barriers being used as Eva vacuum suits. The Air Supply is there so that they don't suffocate. The inconsistency however, comes from Mordin Solus who doesn't have any biotics whatsoever.

Hey, if the Jedi are all but extinct, why does Kylo wear lightsaber-proof armor? I mean, all of these glancing blows from maRey would usually cleave chunks of meat from an unarmored opponent, I wager.

You have rekindled my interest in Star Wars more than Star Wars has in the last 10 years

Bro, how are you doing this? Don't burn yourself out man, we enjoy having you around!

There are actually dryads in Star Wars Legends. 1. Zelosians, which are implied in the Wookieepedia article to be compatible with humans despite being plant aliens, though it was near-impossible to create hybrids. They actually looked more human than plant, but they had green blood and weird vegetation on their heads. 2. Sylphe, which were created in a French games magazine for use in an RPG adventure. They looked the most like modern-day depictions of Dryads, with plants and stuff growing out of them, though they had green skin. They were ALSO compatible with humans, despite being a humanoid plant-person. 3. Neti are tree-people that live for millennia and can shapeshift. They give birth asexually by shooting out saplings (see T'ra Saa), but are apparently capable of romantic attachments (T'ra Saa and Tholme), but it is unknown if they also have sexual feelings for others. They are also found in the Disney Canon as well. The first two imply that somebody in-universe was down-bad enough to have sex with a plant-person.

32:32 I like the idea of calling it the reboot trilogy not the sequel trilogy

I don't know if anyone already commented this but in the Vader VR game, he uses a magical stone that restores Mustafar's ecosystem. It isn't a good explanation but at least it's something

The stupid tree thing is from the ending of a video game. The closest thing to lore continuity you will find in a Disney Wars movie.

I just finished binging all your videos last night, glad to see another one Please keep making these

You don't know how concise and easy to follow using TTRPG terms is for me. Good work on this video!

Clone wars was before the Disney purchase, it changed certain things about the lore that George Lucas didn’t like about the lore. George Lucas wasn’t a big fan of the expanded universe mainly because it was full of contradictions because it was Aton of different writers that wouldn’t check everything.

I kinda thought that what happened to kylos Saber was more that he turned it on and the cracked crystal almost blew the whole thing up. But it was together enough to turn off and then kind of rebuild. The sides were designed after the fact for kinda focusing and venting the leaking energy. The whole blade is always fluttering changing length and width and intensity. I imagine that it is unstable overall and held together by luck. I also bet that the blade is actually a bit weaker than other sabers because of the leaking unstable energy. It's dangerous and ready to explode and only an idiot would keep using it.

On the topic of Mon Calamari and Quarren, their place in the galaxy was retconned many years before the 3D animated show. The 2D Clone Wars cartoon showed both the Quarren and Mon Calamari taking sides in the Clone Wars, the Republic comics had a Mon Calamari separatist commander lead an assault on Kamino during the Clone Wars, another comic pre clone wars had a Quarren luxury cruiser run afoul of Aurra Sing. There are plenty more examples. The 90's book you're referring to was out of date by the time EP1 was released, as both Mon Calamari and Quarren appeared before the rise of the Empire in 1999, Quarren in EP1 - MC's in Jedi Apprentice. Clone Wars cartoons both had Mon Cala as members of the Republic during the Clone Wars, both were created under direction of Lucas.

Oh boy, a new Bread Circus Time to watch this one about twenty times because I enjoy the narrator's voice

As always great video, but I am curious as to why you used a book sighting clone wars as one of the reasons you didn’t trust it, clone wars was mostly made under Lucas, so it fits your criteria of using existing lore?

these videos make me happy that I'm an legends timeline person, its also fun to see how bad Disney is at things

Mass Effect has a somewhat fair explanation for some people not wearing sealed suits in airless environments. Everyone has their mass effect kinetic barriers, that could potentially also be configured to counteract pressure. The space slug scene makes a lot less sense...

Your description of the usability of teleportation and how overpowered it is is absolutely on point.

When Vader said “There is no escape”, my brain immediately went to DAGOTHWAVE. 😅 🌘🎶 No recall or intervention will work in this place. There is no escape. 🎶🌟

Small thing: You don't need to move your hand to do a Jedi mindtrick, or really almost any force power. It's just easier to do so. Much like how Vader didn't need to move his hands to throw things at Luke.

It seems to me like your writing off the animated shows far to much, yes they sometimes go against "established" lore that came before it, but what they offer is generally just as good if not better. Especially so of consistency Plus they (at least the clone wars, rebels and resistance can be a bit of an acquired taste) are phenomenal shows in their own right A dogmatic view of only what you deem as the "established" lore before a certain point, which itself has issues and contradictions, is kinda elitist and leads to not being able to enjoy anything outside of that, of which there is great stuff Just my take so far watching your vids, you're a great creator, and I love watching these, but I hate when people dismiss things out of hand

I'm fairly sure Mustafar's trees can be somewhat explained by the events of the VR game Vader Immortal.

4:07 "Ahsoka Tico"...sometimes the memes write themselves lol 🤣😅😆👏

Holy man that was a belgariad reference. My hat goes off to you sir. I'd always excused the duel in the first film as ray winning because kylo had taken a bowcaster bolt to the chest and he also had to focus on not dying, but that certainly doesn't explain how she was able to actively win a force tug of war with zero training.

You kept showing scenes from the island from The Last Jedi, and it didn't look like something I'd seen before. Then I realized those scenes were showing in the many, many moments where my eyes rolled up into my skull. I think I'd rather slam my genitalia in a car door than watch the movie again... I would happily watch the Prequel Trilogy a thousand times each before I watch anything of the Sequel Trilogy ever again. At least those felt like Star Wars.

I assume the Mustafar scene could be based on the events of the Vader: Immortal games, at the end of which the Brightstar is destroyed and the life force of Mustafar is returned so that it may grow back to its former lush state or something like that

Amazing series, thanks for uploading it, I look forward to your future videos

You should give the clone wars a chance. A lot of Disney wars violates basically everything established in that show to (because, by in large, it was made by someone who actually likes starwars)

Some of the best SW content on YT. Good show sir. Here's to more subs for you

hard to tell what's a joke and what's not but it's not dryad -- it's dyad. Like triad. A dichotomy, a pair, yin and yang.

I started watching the video before anyone could even watch it until the end. So excited.

Just watching this makes me regret ever being hyped about these movies...

I love this analisys, it sticks to the facts that the external content and the movies themselves show instead of just putting ones fellings torwards the movies in front. I don't like the sequels, but I hate when people base their critiques on their feeling on the matter rather than the matter itself

I wonder if the seeming inconsistency between the prequels and the EU which establishes that the Mon Calamari made first contact with the Empire instead of the Republic, yet there being a Quarren senate seat could be remedied by suggesting that the Quarren on Mon Cala were originally colonists, and that their species hails from elsewhere in the galaxy, which is where that seat comes from. Probably not, but it's a suggestion.

God damn your ideas make this so much better than it actually was.

Love the video. I appreciate the logical breakdown. A few things I thought I'd mention although you probably thought of them but didn't deem them worth mentioning. Regarding Luke's training, his training took place over the span of 3-4 years, although you could really say that the majority of that took place between Empire and Return. His "First Duel Upperhand" is the result of him dipping into the dark of the force a bit. I think it would make sense if they had Rey dabbling in the dark side and she had to be shown a better way. Jake Skywalker is a nice touch, a good nod to Mark Hamill. The Diad thing is just the connection to Kylo right? I mean still stupid but not calling her a dryad. A quick inspection shows that diad is actually a term for two monomers in chemistry, so while its stupid in these movies, at least it has some basis.

Banger vid as always

So tickled you went with the magnitude quote! 😆

The other thing you get from a planet without a magma core that you can Traverse is a cool sci-fi concept, please don't try to apply real-world physics too much to a fantasy world, keep the rule of cool in mind

I love how you mix education and shitposting

Luke also said talent without training is nothing. Also Disney probably did say that "we can do anything jar Jar" to jj

Counterpoint on the Mass Effect 2 part at 7:10. She is using a biotic shield. Biotics can work as a spacesuit in a vacuum and can hold as much air as the biotic user brings with them

Love your content and way of balancing movie lore with other sources. I havent read the books but i have watched most of the 3D series. I disagree with some of your takes but i appreciate your explanations on them. Star wars is fun.

Obi wan heals Luke after he's attacked by sandpeople - laying on hands on Luke's forehead. He does it in the film, but it's more explicit in the novelisation. "Accelerate healing" sounds right.

10 years to train? Luke had at most 10 weeks on Dagobah in ESB, and 1 year training with Yoda between ESB & ROTJ.

Take a shot every time he says training

I enjoy seeing the acknowledgement that the 3D clone wars series was a reboot of a different animated series and included new characters. Asoka is universally loved, and her existence doesn't make sense. I feel like it take a lot of balls to to admit that in a video that will actually be seen by thousands.

Love these videos

Underrated channel

Force download, memory wipe, and Guardian.. An excellent explanatory scenario!

Have to point out that we see mon calamari during the Clone Wars as a neutral system, and also have to point out if the quarian race of the planet mon calamari visibly in the Republic Senate. Furthermore in George Lucas approved game Knights of the Old Republic, not only are the mon Cala able to be encountered offworld but so are the quarian. And that game takes place 4,000 BBY

The one thing you're missing about Rey's lightsaber duel is that they DID set up her ability to hold her own in a melee fight in TFA, which Fin witnesses. You even use this clip later in the video.

After watching the first movie I was totally ok with Ray being OP because I thought she was the reincarnation of Anakin. A second coming of force Jesus. She has all the skills because she IS him.

This was a fantastic video, but it was good.

superbly articulated! Only one note: Force Dyad is the idea of TWO connected beings, using the prefix dy/di to justify an entire mechanic invented for the purpose of the film. This is not the same as the Rule of Two, (Clone Wars lore) and is not Tree Magic. just commenting in the interest of clarity: they made a greater mess of the force than you could possibly imagine. In comparison, something like Dagobarrian Dryads would have been much more coherent.

Leading up to The Last Jedi I avoided most of the theory videos as I had figured that some would end up correct and didn't want to get spoiled, however I still came up with my own theories which of course ended up being wrong. One of them was that Rey was one of Luke's students but to keep her safe, she was taken off world & had her memory wiped. Her training & skill were still intact, she simply had to "unlock" them similar to a video game. Either way it's better than the "Rey downloaded Kylo Ren's training" which was the official explanation in TFA's novelization. The Sequel Trilogy's books did a lot of damage control, usually not for the better. Another theory I had was that Rey was like a loose cannon where she was extremely powerful with the Force but without proper control she could hurt everything & everyone around her. TROS sort of leans into this idea when Rey suddenly shoots Force Lightning & blows up a ship after losing control. If we had more of that in both TROS & TLJ then Rey could've been real interesting but alas, TLJ doubled down on Rey being super powerful with no training or reason. Such a shame, especially since it quickly turned into "oh you must hate/be scared of strong women" whenever people tried to criticize Rey's character even though Star Wars has always had strong female characters with a lot of them being fan favorites. Anyways, great video as usual been loving these rewrites. I do have a question though, would you consider doing a video at the end of the series where you present your rewrite in it's entirety? Because you've been dividing things by topic of discussion, your rewrite is currently out of order with a lot of jumping around. It'd be cool to watch (listen) to the rewrite in chronological order. If you don't want to that's fine, likely requiring making a new script so it flowed together better than a clip compilation. Just a suggestion.

i love your humor!

It’s one am and I’m cross faded thank you for making cool shit I’m enjoying

Force Lorax killed me

I wasn't expecting Captain Scarlet to show up here! In regards to the Mon Calamari timeline, what's the consensus then on their appearance in the 2003 Clone Wars series where Kit Fisto aids them in their civil war with the Quarrian (who have joined the CIS)?

Sorry, had to just come into the comments to say that the dried apricot bit at 20:25 was so unexpected it absolutely floored me XD EDIT: Okay, for how ridiculous the lack of training thing is for Rey, that origin story you drew up is actually a really interesting idea. I'd love to see a smaller scale character with a story arc like that, just not something as galaxy-spanning as this

Love the 'BFG division', adds to the vid

I enjoy the way you say telly-por-tation.

You have such a great taste in music. Kinda intense for the calmness of your voice but it gets me so hyped lmao

I’m actually really surprised he’s never seen the Clone Wars. It’s such a good show, even the last few episodes of the Disney season are fantastic and some of the best of the whole show. (The first half is absolute garbage though, Disney had to shoehorn in some quirky relatable characters with sad backstories for no apparent reason).

The Mustafar we see in 9 ep is terra formed planet, after events of Darth Vader: Immortal.

The 'force dryad' bit killed me XD

“Star Wars: The Clone Wars” and “Star Wars: Rebels” has some pretty good moments, I would recommend watching them. Also spoiler for a game from over 3 years ago. The in-universe reason why Mustafar has trees is due to the events of the Vader VR game. I would guess that the people working on (or the ones that was deciding the sets and what not, or someone working on the film) RoS knew of that game and added it so that there is some sort of continuity from the game to there. As for the force powers, the “dyad” is, likely, just a very strong force bond (think of Revan and Bastila or Kreia and the Jedi Exile). As you talked about with force healing, it was in previous material and was not handled as a extremely op ability in the books. If I am not mistaken, I’m order to be able to do basic first aid, a force user must take many years to learn the biology of different species and must be well trained and attuned with the force. I may have missed remembered a few things, though I do believe I got a lot of it correct.

The Toothpaste Genie came out when I was like 8 or 9. It was my favourite book for about 2 months. I have never heard a reference to it since. Cheers!

While I agree with shitting on the choice of suddenly having dead trees on mustafar, the actual reference material is a VR game they published. The general idea was that mustafar is not naturally volcanic, and it was only that way due to some force bullshit, which gets resolved during the time of the empire, allowing the planet to slowly start to regrow life.

For the gas scene we learn in KotOR2 that the jedi technique that they use against the Dioxis gas is applicable against Cyanogen gas, which does get in through your skin and eyeballs. Not sure if that's considered reboot lore or not, but you butcher your way through an entire cantina filled with the gas using the technique, and it's apparently so easy to learn that Kreia can just teach it to you as you lie there dying, my own personal headcanon is that it's just a refinement on the technique that all jedi are taught to resist poisons. And so you should already know the basics beforehand.

Outro song like Civvie11, love it!

The thing that hurts is that the throne room fight is so well choreographed, but it has so little weight to it. Imagine Rey had failed before, hell, what if she had lost a limb or two. Theres an interesting story you could tell with her. She is a "Chosen One" by her own choice. She has decided to try and fix the world, bring balance and justice to everything. Having her fail and suffer adds weight to her choice, and gives her depth. She struggles in that fight but wins, if she has inly ever lost and run before this point it feels a lot more important that she does win.

A few seconds of montage showing Rei falling a few times, experiencing failure and having a hard time, but working through it. That's all it would have taken. BAM! Not a Mary Sue.

awesome! :)

There are actually a ton of references in the original canon to the Jedi using the Force to speed up their selfhealing. However, there were a few Jedi who used the Force to heal others, slowly. The female Mon Calamari student of the first twelve Acolytes in Luke's Praxeum cured Mon Mothma of the poisoning performed by the Caridian "ambassador" for starters. But as discussed in the video, not instantaneously and not without consequences.

One important thing about the gesture is when Vader chokes people with the force. He doesn't have any hands, what is seen are mechanical parts. So clearly, for choking it doesn't need an actual hand. He also chokes the admiral while both are on different spaceships, talking through a screen. So it also works across long distances and without the need to directly see the target. But Vader still raises his mechanical arm. That might be simple habit, or to clearly show people around that he is the one doing it, but it would probably work just as well just by thought. In the same way, a classic Jedi mind trick uses the thought of manipulating someone, the gesture, and saying the thought. So basically the thought of the spell, the magic gesture, and the magic words. The three classic components of magic. Does it need all three components? Can a Jedi just silently will the change? Can they do it while bound? Maybe. But as Vader is a very powerful force user, he might not need the physical component for a choke. So a very powerful force user might also use the mind trick without hand movement. And I like the idea of Rey tapping into the dark side. Especially in the time before any proper training she unconsciously uses what works. I remember fanart from the time between Ep 7 and 8 of dark side Ray and light side Kylo. Which would actually be something new. A Sith redeeming himself before the finale of a trilogy (like Vader) and a hero falling before the finale of a trilogy (also Vader) would make for an interesting plot. Especially if Rey redeems herself again. That way we can even satisfy the shippers of her and Kylo.

I was waiting for away too long for the payoff on the dryad joke. at this point i think its not a joke, you genuinely misheard. He didn't say Dryad, he said Diad. As in the duo or two version of Triad.

The cross guards on Kylo Rens lightsaber is the result of his lightsaber crystal becoming unstable and essentially giving out excess energy, so he designed the hilt to emit two small blades on the side to expel that energy, and due to the fact that his crystal is unstable that’s also why the blade of his saber is more rippled, this type of lightsaber was later said to be an ancient Jedi design and was shown briefly in Star Wars Rebels when they were on Malachor V