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The ‘Rolls-Royce’ of courthouses sits unfinished in Mora County

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Күн бұрын

The ‘Rolls-Royce’ of courthouses sits unfinished in Mora County

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@jimda4910
@jimda4910 2 жыл бұрын
I built custom homes for 35 years. Every single homeowner told me the same story. They went to the architect and said we have $300,000 total budget, the architect proceeded to design a $ 480,000 house That ended up costing $560,000 to build. It would be odd if it happened occasionally but I'm not kidding it was damn near every single time.
@jordangarrick703
@jordangarrick703 Жыл бұрын
Here's how to accurately budget for new construction: calculate your expected costs. Then double the estimate. And then add between 10 and 20% on top. Now you have enough money allotted for expenses. Maybe....
@jimda4910
@jimda4910 Жыл бұрын
@@jordangarrick703 architect the keyword in my comment is architect.
@AH-wu7ys
@AH-wu7ys 3 жыл бұрын
Why the hell is everybody blaming the architect. The city council had to approve the deal before construction began.
@eddyb1596
@eddyb1596 2 жыл бұрын
I was just thinking this. It possibly wasn't even the only version the architect made. My uncle is an architect for similar scale projects and does multiple versions of projects in the early stages. A high end, low end and something in the middle. Architects are laborers just like everyone else. The real criminals are the ones who said, "yeah this version of a public project the public doesn't have the funding for nor need of is the one we're going to spend the publics money on."
@bigredgreg1
@bigredgreg1 2 жыл бұрын
@@eddyb1596, you’re exactly right.
@paulb5571
@paulb5571 2 жыл бұрын
A bit late to the party, but a similar thought ran through my mind. The information given in this video is that the architects plan was way over the intended cost of the project and they accepted it anyways. An appropriate response would be to fire him for going overbudget or tell him to go back to the drawing board and deliver a plan within their funding limits. Instead it looks like they rubber stamped what he sent the county and then got angry when they finally got around to reading the price tag.
@topherh5093
@topherh5093 2 жыл бұрын
@@eddyb1596 They are blaming them for the structural deficiencies. The building is unsafe as designed.
@jackhammer078jack4
@jackhammer078jack4 2 жыл бұрын
How about we deduct the politicians pay. I pretty sure they will have issues with that.
@muffs55mercury61
@muffs55mercury61 2 жыл бұрын
I only stumbled onto these KRQE investigative reports just today. Never realized how inept and corrupt New Mexico is. This sounds like one big money pit. It's been going on five years now. Was this ever completed?
@thomasvalenzuela2005
@thomasvalenzuela2005 2 жыл бұрын
Yes it opened in 2019
@josepharagon8259
@josepharagon8259 Жыл бұрын
It’s in use and actually coming out nice
@buckiemohawk3643
@buckiemohawk3643 7 ай бұрын
all governments are corrupt with huge money laundering schemes and payola that would make the mob look like saints
@samrester6254
@samrester6254 2 жыл бұрын
How was that chairman, Martinez, still in charge of anything? The dude still didn't want to take responsibility and actually got combative. Tells you all you need to know about him. Just ridiculous.
@louisc.gasper7588
@louisc.gasper7588 2 жыл бұрын
It's all you need to know about New Mexico. It is deeply corrupt in every dimension you care to examine. And who's to blame? The people who elect the crooks.
@akita96th
@akita96th Жыл бұрын
My guess is he is a MAGAT. They are born to be incompetent.
@joeywall4657
@joeywall4657 2 жыл бұрын
Majestic! Monumental! Ostentatious! Absurd! Abandoned! This is what New Mexicos government can do for *YOU*!! I feel so much better about my own state after watching videos like this. Congratulations, New Mexico!
@kokomokid4006
@kokomokid4006 4 жыл бұрын
Arrogance exceeded only by corruption...
@SirNic4180
@SirNic4180 4 жыл бұрын
Corruption at its best.
@mikestand714
@mikestand714 4 жыл бұрын
every state needs a larry barker
@Odin31b
@Odin31b 7 жыл бұрын
Good job Larry!
@fxsrider
@fxsrider 4 жыл бұрын
The bank loan is also a tax increase.
@workingmansdead44-ug8hl
@workingmansdead44-ug8hl 7 жыл бұрын
The tax dollars that this state wastes on bullshit is unprecedented, having lived up east on the Atlantic coast,I can identify pocket lining crookbastard politicians and judges ,,, there ain't no shortage here.
@jeffreylasky2737
@jeffreylasky2737 4 жыл бұрын
New Mexico government defined!!
@pieluvr7362
@pieluvr7362 3 жыл бұрын
Is this Jeffrey who lived in LV if so long time ago 👊🏽👍🏽
@rogerbradley7509
@rogerbradley7509 4 жыл бұрын
A local tax increase! Go figure!
@marcosmota1094
@marcosmota1094 2 жыл бұрын
I'm a New Yorker, but once lived in Alamosa, Colorado. The heating and cooling bills for the trailers has not been chump change. At least $7,000-$10,000 dollars in excess per year. Just sad, especially because NM cuts developers deals all the time. *"Hey, finish this building for us, and we'll give you a tax credit."* As a college dropout, I could list off ten ideas. Like taking 100 high school students and pairing them with said company to teach them a trade, and get the building done. It's embarrassing, that AmeriCorps NCCC has existed since 1994 and these jokers never called.
@rcs3030
@rcs3030 3 жыл бұрын
And when they finally do finish the job there will be a big brass plaque placed in a conspicuous place with the names of the commissioners names. Oh, the county will be sooo proud !!! This kind of crap seems to go on all the time in New Mexico. Thanks to Larry Barker and KRQE for their hard work.
@bigredgreg1
@bigredgreg1 2 жыл бұрын
Someone should commission a billboard to give honor and recognition to those dedicated stewards of taxpayer money who are responsible for the authorization of this project. The bronze plaque can come later, when the project is completed.
@samuelcantley5500
@samuelcantley5500 4 жыл бұрын
They put the money in there pockets
@mississippispider
@mississippispider 3 жыл бұрын
Seems to me that the county should fall back on everyone who had their hands in the building of this center.
@himhim3344
@himhim3344 3 жыл бұрын
This reminds me of the jail they were building in Detroit and they ran out of money halfway through. It was prime, expensive real estate. A billionaire businessman offered to buy the half built jail so he could develop the property and pay to have a new jail built somewhere else but the city voted *NO* 😂😂
@doctormcboy5009
@doctormcboy5009 2 жыл бұрын
prime expensive real estate in detroit? LOL
@masonc4919
@masonc4919 2 жыл бұрын
@@doctormcboy5009 yea that's an oxymoron 😂
@craigjensen6853
@craigjensen6853 2 жыл бұрын
Yeah, they spent something like $170M out of an expected $300M but it ended up going way beyond that which prompted the pause. Then it sat for 3 years while they paid something like $1M to run pumps and pay security. Ultimately they _did_ end up making a complicated deal with that developer which involved giving him the land and him building the new justice complex which is under construction. He demolished the jail but his plans for the site have been downsized repeatedly in recent times while he's still on the hook for the new justice complex and his mortgage company is falling significantly in value. He recently had a major stroke so I don't know how much of the operations he's involved with at this point but he is recovering.
@cesargalicia7700
@cesargalicia7700 3 жыл бұрын
I don't understand how this happens. Oh wait is politicians getting their hands dirty.
@dbadaddy7386
@dbadaddy7386 3 жыл бұрын
If state money is used for local projects, then it should come with the requirement to complete the project as funded by the planned deadline or future funds for any purpose are cut off until the money is paid back. This would encourage smaller, more reasonable projects and fewer of them. Of course, since it isn't the politicians' money, there will be all kinds of waivers offered so such a requirement would have no teeth.
@joelfromportland
@joelfromportland 4 жыл бұрын
Their courthouse should send the sheriff to the architect, arrest him, and charge him with fraud of some sort.
@MyMomo17
@MyMomo17 4 жыл бұрын
The Sheriff is under arrest.
@tallthinkev
@tallthinkev 3 жыл бұрын
Nope, the architect was given a job and the council said that's good and signed off on it. as for the contractor signed off as well. All down to the county. County inspectors should have been there once a week to check the work out. Or did they get money too?
@himhim3344
@himhim3344 3 жыл бұрын
@@tallthinkev This. It's like when you tell a real estate agent what your budget is and they show you a home that's outside of your budget. If you decide to buy it anyways and can't pay your mortgage in a couple years it's not the real estate agents fault😂
@craigjensen6853
@craigjensen6853 2 жыл бұрын
@@tallthinkev Bingo. The architect's job is to deliver a set of buildable/compliant plans to the client's specifications. He did so. They didn't state if the deficiencies were in design or materials/labor but I would presume the latter as I saw sections of floor cut out to rebar and other concrete work you wouldn't expect unless the buildout design was changed (which it may have been). The county would have put the building contract/plans out to bid and accepted the lowest (typically) bid and then built it. None of that was the architect's job. Architects often design alternates or variants that can be optional based on budget. But it's up to the county to issue the contract to build it.
@lizhaydon2250
@lizhaydon2250 2 жыл бұрын
More of my tax dollars and I don't even live in that county. Crooks in charge. It's not the contractors. It's the crooks in government that approved of the expense.
@servicarrider
@servicarrider 3 жыл бұрын
Jail time = decades. Seize every thing they own right down to their jewelry, sell it and put the proceeds in the county kitty.
@AdvancedUSA
@AdvancedUSA 2 жыл бұрын
Wasting our money is something that bureaucrats are good at. Add lying, stealing, harassing us - etc.
@kenberscheit480
@kenberscheit480 4 жыл бұрын
who has snowmobiles stored in the building??????? fire all involved to this point and get new people in there that will do their jobs
@faithwhite6439
@faithwhite6439 2 жыл бұрын
Homeless people should go live in it .
@MyMomo17
@MyMomo17 4 жыл бұрын
This is so corrupt the Taxpayers are getting ripped off by the City or County the Contractor reaps millions.
@plekkchand
@plekkchand 2 жыл бұрын
Did she actually say, "Mistakes were made?" She cannot be unaware of that classic bit of transparent dishonesty- it's a textbook case of government doublespeak.
@davidkaser7423
@davidkaser7423 4 жыл бұрын
Can We the people claim such buildings and turn them into manufacturing ? We have government buildings half finished all over the US. They are paid for by the people, so why not put them to good use. Now that Chinese products are unavailable, Americans can see that manufacturing must be rebuilt in America for our own survival.
@LoveyK
@LoveyK 2 жыл бұрын
Manufacturing what? Tamales?
@tedvargovich5020
@tedvargovich5020 2 жыл бұрын
@@LoveyK I like the way you think😯 lots and lots of tamales
@LoveyK
@LoveyK 2 жыл бұрын
@@tedvargovich5020 😊
@jacksonhwyoming1264
@jacksonhwyoming1264 2 жыл бұрын
Most of those people in the video starting when the Senators and then they got a big part of that money that just playing the part you know better than that
@1atrcooper
@1atrcooper 3 жыл бұрын
Sorry taxpayers you get what you vote for...
@Freedom1rn
@Freedom1rn 6 ай бұрын
Taxpayers should be outraged people need to be in jail
@brambledemon1232
@brambledemon1232 2 жыл бұрын
Sounds like the commission knew that they’d eventually find the money
@johnabbott3896
@johnabbott3896 2 жыл бұрын
Just do a forensic audit of Peter Martinez, the architect, and the builder's finances....especially the way Nr. Martinez acted out on camera.....he's probably the weak link....
@NathanS__
@NathanS__ 6 ай бұрын
The frustrating thing is that Mora used to have a magnificent courthouse that was constructed in 1889 in stone in the Romanesque style. It was the pride of the county but they abandoned it in 1939 and let it burn down in the 1950s.
@marvinbaca7299
@marvinbaca7299 5 жыл бұрын
Hope they voted that fool commissioner out of office!
@michaelsmirnov1469
@michaelsmirnov1469 3 жыл бұрын
Who else saw snowmobiles in building?🤔
@stevebarden2084
@stevebarden2084 2 жыл бұрын
Ya, what's up with that? Expensive storage shed!
@ThatGuy-yf5je
@ThatGuy-yf5je 4 жыл бұрын
Use it for something. Send the homeless there. No need to waste more money to build homes for homeless.
@jordanhicks5131
@jordanhicks5131 3 жыл бұрын
So, send them to an unfinished building? Oh yeah, that's not a terrible idea at all! Lmao the liability that would present is massive! Not to mention mean and unconstitutional
@LoveyK
@LoveyK 2 жыл бұрын
There aren't any homeless in Mora County - for obvious reasons.
@davidcastain3942
@davidcastain3942 2 жыл бұрын
In light of Corruption in US the Mora building project should be turned over to Homeless support services.
@chrisaustin6255
@chrisaustin6255 11 ай бұрын
Put the county commission in tents until the quit
@paveltolz6601
@paveltolz6601 3 жыл бұрын
Architect and Contractor declare bankruptcy and the cost of the lawsuit will be added to the tab of correcting and completing the building.
@jasoncrandall73
@jasoncrandall73 3 жыл бұрын
Over time the county should shift more & more government offices into that new building. Good to hear the county is going to sue the entities involved in the initial construction.
@djquinn11
@djquinn11 2 жыл бұрын
What the hell is going on out there in NM?? Corrupt from top to bottom
@TheRetirednavy92
@TheRetirednavy92 3 жыл бұрын
I bet some politician made his family rich on this.
@andrewschumann4653
@andrewschumann4653 2 жыл бұрын
Of course they built at 12 million dollar building with a 5 million dollar budget that's government 101
@billsmith5166
@billsmith5166 2 жыл бұрын
Follow the money trail. Where does it lead? FOIA requests should be submitted. Who is responsible?
@robertphillips6296
@robertphillips6296 2 жыл бұрын
Vote them out!
@teresaharvey716
@teresaharvey716 2 жыл бұрын
Larry you are the best. That's a fact.
@catman8670
@catman8670 2 жыл бұрын
Bet nobody went to jail! Sick!
@mikeadler2755
@mikeadler2755 3 жыл бұрын
Court houses should be simple office buildings not ridiculous art projects
@lisamarieashby2523
@lisamarieashby2523 3 жыл бұрын
Sounds like unintelligent POLITITIONS doing what they do best, f over their communities!
@David-dl3vj
@David-dl3vj 4 жыл бұрын
And millions of people want to go to your country,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,WHY.
@erikanders3343
@erikanders3343 2 жыл бұрын
sublease part of the building to law offices, law library and other buildings.
@buckiemohawk3643
@buckiemohawk3643 7 ай бұрын
First of all building should never have been approved when it went over budget.
@MW-xm1rc
@MW-xm1rc 2 жыл бұрын
Government doesn’t care how they spend taxpayers money! After all if they need more money they simply raise your taxes.
@danflores2346
@danflores2346 3 жыл бұрын
Get ‘em Larry!
@omstout
@omstout Жыл бұрын
1st Question: Why would any county resident WANT to use a COURT? Do the residents want to be criminals?
@marks814
@marks814 4 жыл бұрын
The World looks at the US and laughs hysterically! There is no shame in these shysters, they occupy nearly every government position in the US.
@jordanhicks5131
@jordanhicks5131 3 жыл бұрын
Idk, they didnt laugh very hard when we killed that Iranian general. Keep that in mind
@bigredgreg1
@bigredgreg1 2 жыл бұрын
@@jordanhicks5131, I’m inclined to agree. Maybe we need a drone strike on a few elected officials who squander taxpayer dollars on Taj Mahal projects that they authorize without funding. I don’t blame the architect or the contractor for what the county authorized and approved.
@bruce9897
@bruce9897 4 жыл бұрын
Tax Increase 🤷‍♂️
@shaunfletcher7087
@shaunfletcher7087 3 жыл бұрын
why did the board accept the 12 million plan and why did the board not put the job out to tender IN COM PET TENCE
@MrChopemup
@MrChopemup 3 жыл бұрын
Ok, We have a $5 million budget , Let’s build a $12 million structure. What could go wrong?
@sherri8347
@sherri8347 4 жыл бұрын
They raised taxes to help pay. NOT RIGHT
@thatguy7085
@thatguy7085 2 жыл бұрын
When buildings are left like this… they rot, from the inside out.
@thomasvalenzuela2005
@thomasvalenzuela2005 2 жыл бұрын
Imagine being sentenced to prison from a single wide trailer
@kcmatloff5707
@kcmatloff5707 6 жыл бұрын
wait, at 4:50. were those SNOWMOBILES!?!!?!?!
@catskrista485
@catskrista485 6 жыл бұрын
Casey Schmidt yes we need them here because it snowing a lot her and so the workers don't get stuck in the snow
@TheLastDeadCat
@TheLastDeadCat 2 жыл бұрын
Sounds just like MDC which was built on reclaimed land leading to almost half of it being unusable
@bryanblake8607
@bryanblake8607 2 жыл бұрын
Common sense says if the person coming up with the plans goes over budget you get them down to where you need them to be in budget or you get someone else that can be well within budget.
@contessahinson
@contessahinson 2 жыл бұрын
Lol is it a casino??? What a fancy court house
@ToyoteroMundial
@ToyoteroMundial Жыл бұрын
Follow the money.
@gerryhartung736
@gerryhartung736 2 жыл бұрын
This is the third project I've seen bankrupting taxpayers. Turn bldg into low come housing and keep county in Mobil homes. Oh wait, the politicians keep getting paychecks and live in rich neighborhoods!
@ronl2463
@ronl2463 2 жыл бұрын
Poor government workers having to work out of mobile homes, imagine if they had to live in them like many people do.
@ellafields9424
@ellafields9424 3 ай бұрын
😂 Not ALL TRAILER TRASH Live in TRAILERS!!!!!!
@KeltoiMagus
@KeltoiMagus 2 жыл бұрын
Not just the citizens of Mora paid, all state monies given to the country come from All our taxes, not just the county. We all got screwed. Why didnt someone just say No to the architect.
@maribelaguilar7270
@maribelaguilar7270 2 жыл бұрын
Mora has vary small amount of peaple. Money is from all de citizens of NM
@jamesaulgur4556
@jamesaulgur4556 2 жыл бұрын
Stupid people doing stupid things with other peoples money...
@Yourmanbiddle
@Yourmanbiddle 2 жыл бұрын
Telling you right now… money was used elsewhere and claimed it was for this building!
@jnicholaswildcat
@jnicholaswildcat 2 жыл бұрын
That commissioner should be fired
@samuelcantley5500
@samuelcantley5500 4 жыл бұрын
Cut there pay to pay for it
@MissionaryForMexico
@MissionaryForMexico 2 жыл бұрын
The contractor made a huge sum of money!
@PunkMartyr
@PunkMartyr 2 жыл бұрын
Wow its almost like they overpayed the developers and pocketed the difference.
@lorenreece1665
@lorenreece1665 3 жыл бұрын
I wouldn't live in NM for any reason.
@jmarsian4017
@jmarsian4017 2 жыл бұрын
Pathetic , Every day everywhere . Pathetic
@itwasaliens
@itwasaliens 2 жыл бұрын
Seems like New Mexico has a massive issue with scammy construction projects. Everything about a dozen different videos from different projects.
@strengthinknowledge9131
@strengthinknowledge9131 2 жыл бұрын
Is NM the most corrupt state in the union?
@ellafields9424
@ellafields9424 3 ай бұрын
??? Not as long as we have NY.???😅
@jerryransbarger8927
@jerryransbarger8927 2 жыл бұрын
This is got to stop...vote liberals OUT!
@marionholland6602
@marionholland6602 2 жыл бұрын
Mora county voted for what they get, don’t cry wolf to the world , throw the thieves out of office and county.
@johnpalmer5131
@johnpalmer5131 2 жыл бұрын
And just think, there was a time when people thought Bill Richardson (former NM governor) would make a great POTUS… yeah, NO!
@Tbone42tx
@Tbone42tx 2 жыл бұрын
Dam New Mexico Got a phucked up System.... This the Second building they have up there that's just sitting around empty the other being a museum that was only used for 8-10 yrs then closed... WHAT A WASTE OF FUNDS!!!
@dougclem7711
@dougclem7711 2 жыл бұрын
You should have a landscape to save WATER!
@bradleywills9475
@bradleywills9475 4 жыл бұрын
Same thing is gonna end up happening with the high speed rail project in California. Pure government waste.
@harkinlucerojr.9580
@harkinlucerojr.9580 2 жыл бұрын
THATS WHAT HAPPENS WHEN YOU DON'T KEEP A A EYE ON THE Architect YOU SHOULD MAKE THE ARCHITECT PAY THE DIFFERENCE ALONG WITH THE PEOPLE THAT KNEW ABOUT WHAT WAS GOING ON.
@spooge33
@spooge33 2 жыл бұрын
The drawings have to be approved by someone. Just because he designed it doesn't mean it gets built.
@harkinlucerojr.9580
@harkinlucerojr.9580 2 жыл бұрын
@@spooge33 IT WILL GET BUILT IF HE IS THE PERSON WHO HAS THE POWER TO APPROVE IT.
@spooge33
@spooge33 2 жыл бұрын
@@harkinlucerojr.9580 A contractor, in this case the Architect, working as a third party, does not have the power to approve his own work. It's called a conflict of interest.
@harkinlucerojr.9580
@harkinlucerojr.9580 2 жыл бұрын
@@spooge33 HE WAS IN CHARGE
@harkinlucerojr.9580
@harkinlucerojr.9580 2 жыл бұрын
@@spooge33 I LIVE IN A SMALL TOWN RUN BY THE GOOD OLD BOYS.IN OTHER WORDS THEY MAKE THEIR OWN LAWS AND COVER EACH OTHERS ASSES .I AM OVER 72 AND WORKED WITH MANY CONTRACTORS AND ARCHITECTS.EVEN A COUPLE FRANK LOYED WRIGHT STUDENTS ON THE BANK OF PORTUGAL IN SF. NEVER HAVE I RUN INTO PROBLEMS EXCEPT IN PUEBLO COLO.
@remontwachewicz6155
@remontwachewicz6155 4 жыл бұрын
Sounds like Chicago
@AnonYmous-qg4ph
@AnonYmous-qg4ph 2 жыл бұрын
Whats with the snowmobiles in the courthouse??
@rebeccaduncan6
@rebeccaduncan6 2 жыл бұрын
Martinez how do these get elected and re-elections
@josepherkenbrecher5655
@josepherkenbrecher5655 7 жыл бұрын
In California the state will pay counties more money for a building that is being leased than they will for a building that is owned. 20 years ago I worked for a county and there was one building that could house around 70 people that had 11 people sitting in it, that way could could maintain a 10 person average in order to get paid by the state for that building. That building was owned by the county. All the other filled to capacity buildings were leased. What I'm trying to say is it's always a money game.
@shirleywright8665
@shirleywright8665 7 жыл бұрын
Talk about a ponzi who really got money from bonds
@cloudninetherapeutics7787
@cloudninetherapeutics7787 2 жыл бұрын
SCAM the taxpayers and pocket it.
@MrJonesy2121
@MrJonesy2121 2 жыл бұрын
I'd like to take a look at this senator's campaign contributions
@tvviewer4500
@tvviewer4500 2 жыл бұрын
It's almost like they knew it would never get built so they built enough of a building to force the construction later.
@c4or2ey02
@c4or2ey02 2 жыл бұрын
Seems like this is happening in ruidoso right now, with like 8 million for road repairs and the "repairs" are half done and worse than before.
@KeltoiMagus
@KeltoiMagus 2 жыл бұрын
The Tal Mahal is a tomb too.
@paulkelly4731
@paulkelly4731 2 жыл бұрын
Who selected the architect and signed off on the plans?
@thatfeeble-mindedboy
@thatfeeble-mindedboy 2 жыл бұрын
Assign any task to a public governmental organization, even if it’s a modest sized little city or county government, all the way up to and including the U.S. Government, you run a high risk of something like this happening. Separation of the source of the money from the expenditure of the money brings in the reality of human nature wherein people spending their own money can be stingy, penny-pinching, tight-fisted, tireless bargain hunters who pore over the books in the middle of the night because they can’t sleep as they are so worried that they might have been taken advantage of somewhere along the way; yet those same people handling huge sums collected from immense hordes of nameless, faceless, dehumanized warm bodies (we’ve come to just calling them “Tax Payers” for heaven’s sake…); then suddenly they become capable of throwing money around like it was limitless, with their only responsibility being “just be sure to buy something nice… that we can all be proud of, and will look good to the voters. As long as voters continue to support the legislation and put into office the candidate that promises them the most “free stuff” - without regard for cost, whether in dollars or in personal liberties, without regard for patriotic duty, ethics, or setting of precedent, none of this is going to change. Something very close to this also dominates the world of those things typically paid for by insurance… like healthcare, for example; ESPECIALLY healthcare whose premiums are subsidized. This provides an additional degree of separation between the source of the money and the expenditure of the money. Even Scrooge can’t expect any form of ‘buyer protection’ or an itemized recipient for his taxes … he has been conditioned to accept that he will hand over his money, in the amount specified, at the time it is demanded, and if he might ask where it goes or what it paid for, he will be regarded as insane. Sufficiently conditioned to expect no accountability, the healthcare consumer doesn’t even look at the hospital bill, and in the absence of a buyer constantly complaining about prices and threatening to go to a competitor, PLUS being able to justify costs under the blanket of charging enough to cover liability insurance for the lawsuits historically brought in connection with any given product, removes from vendors any motivation to be competitive in their pricing. As long as the trial lawyers association has the legislators by the balls, this isn’t going to change either.
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