Rattlesnake Acres: A tale of deceit, misrepresentation in the New Mexico desert - Source: www.krqe.com/n...
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@daviddixon22094 жыл бұрын
If the land has no value, there's no basis for taxation since taxation is based on value.
@markdsm-51574 жыл бұрын
not only that, but without the scam there would be nothing to tax. Technically, that county is profiting from criminal activity.
@fastjoecorrigan74262 жыл бұрын
Excellent point David
@jesusliveselima38462 жыл бұрын
Now I understand why God people are praying to God for help you are fighting demons
@carportchronicles19432 жыл бұрын
I just watched a video about a couple whose parents bought one of those lots way back when and maintained ownership. The couple inherited it, found out it was a scam, but decided to go and see it for themselves. It is indeed just barren scrub land, and the two-acre lot in the middle of nowhere is currently worth $167 and the yearly. taxes are $5.
@tymz-r-achangin2 жыл бұрын
@@jesusliveselima3846 Certainly. The American people allowed the rats to have an inch out of the sewers, even though they were severely warned that the rats will stench up a whole mile. So we now have an epidemic of rats in our news/media, government, justice systems, and our schools. Americans do a great job at talking/complaining about the rising corruption while they primarily focus more for whats on netflix or sports channel that day!
@christopherbeddoe4062 жыл бұрын
Saying this is costing the county millions a year is disingenuous. It costs them nothing. The fact that this county won't sieze the land and are instead letting fees stack up is ridiculous. The postage on the bills is worth more than the 0.79% taxes they could collect on a 0.50 acre lot in the middle of the desert. If they were smart they would start seizing the land and be done with it. They are generating a net loss in revenue due to incompetence. Typical government.
@tymz-r-achangin2 жыл бұрын
You definitely hit the nail pretty darn good on the head
@mawi11722 жыл бұрын
Typical media reporting falsely, too
@kevins36462 жыл бұрын
I am sure some people pay and for the rest I think they go after estates or anyone with good credit where possible.
@plangelierwot2 жыл бұрын
I was coming here to say the same thing, they should have seized the properties 40 years ago for unpaid taxes...but they don't want to own the land either.
@davidlaney61532 жыл бұрын
There's a legal process, but yes they should seize the land.
@jshood33532 жыл бұрын
The tax collector states the land is worthless, undeveloped without roads. But the property generates huge tax bills? I don't understand. How can worthless land generate tax revenue? No development plus no property value equals no tax revenue.
@shanet75112 жыл бұрын
The fact the government thinks someone owes them money for taxes on worthless land is hilarious
@AdventuringwiththeS.G.O.C.C Жыл бұрын
That is what I was thinking. If the AG closed them out for fraud than collecting taxes on that same fraud is fraud
@solohoh2 жыл бұрын
Someone should think about the real bad guys in this scheme, the county planning department who approved these subdivisions and all the county agencies that processed the maps --they were motivated by the large fees from the developers that the land owner paid them. The expected revenue from property taxes must have been too much to resist. Approving and recording these subdivisions without any conditions such as improving the land, building roads, water, septic,...etc was a crime against humanity motivated by greed.
@davidlaney61532 жыл бұрын
yes and no, their job is not to picks winners and losers, that being said, in Arizona subdivision development is highly regulated with developers being required to identify a 100 years worth of water supply, and identify all utility lines from the lot lines, so a buyer can quickly determine the utilities and water supply situation. These folks should have determined that these lots were way beyond the standard commute times to Albuquerque (the closest employment base).
@kevinlockwood33882 жыл бұрын
Greed seems to be the downfall of our economy
@davidlaney61532 жыл бұрын
@@kevinlockwood3388 Greed lubricates the system and gets things done...
@jayjdietrich Жыл бұрын
They don't call it New Mexico for no reason! It's just like Old Mexico down to the over abundance of Mexicans and the accompanying corruption.
@jeffreylasky27374 жыл бұрын
When property taxes are not paid over a period of time, usually the county government by law is able to seize the land. The county won’t do that because they would then forfeit any possible tax collection.
@got2kittys4 жыл бұрын
Here in Az, the properties like that, (we have many 1000's) revert to State ownership.
@danhotea63022 жыл бұрын
the crooks are complaining that they can t still anymore money just like the other crooks
@Tony-hx2fj2 жыл бұрын
why should any property taxes be due if no improvements have been done. put roads, sewage, sidewalks etc the charge taxes. state is as greedy / dishonest as the developers
@MJCLAXDEN4 жыл бұрын
I inherited 2 acres there. It's a shit hole. But at least the property taxes are low. Can't access it in a car. I was half-expecting Walter White to be cooking meth on the land when I got there.
@majesticgee76102 жыл бұрын
How much was the taxes?
@MJCLAXDEN2 жыл бұрын
@@majesticgee7610 It's like $15-$20/acre per yr.
@majesticgee76102 жыл бұрын
@@MJCLAXDEN thank you
@marshall47594 жыл бұрын
If the land is worthless how is the government owed 11 million dollars? Corrupt State!
@oneandone27444 жыл бұрын
Good question. Delinquent sales tax. When you take the title and or mortgage you agree to the tax no matter what the property is actually worth. I've seen these ads over the years. I considered buying a lot myself.
@robertmorris89974 жыл бұрын
Taxes, interest and penalties.
@1pcmedic2 жыл бұрын
The answer is here (no common sense), All of the state's seven executive offices are held by Democrats. Democrats also hold supermajorities in both houses of the New Mexico State Legislature.
@jasoncampbell5518 Жыл бұрын
The entire US is this way !
@Blackwater_House4 жыл бұрын
How can a Tax Department have the Nerve to waste Taxpayer Dollars on something which they know is unrecoverable and doesn’t exist anyways?
@steveleach49732 жыл бұрын
Um because they pocketed most of the money? Duh
@danhotea63022 жыл бұрын
because is not their money its like monopolies money
@Tom-mu7zy2 жыл бұрын
How did the state ever put a tax valuation on this land in the first place? Maybe the state was in on the fraud?
@barryfields29644 жыл бұрын
Aren’t properly taxes supposed to be used to pay for things like school, utilities, roads? If these people were paying their property taxes was exactly would they be getting in return? Other than a recipe? It seems like to me that the real scammers are the one trying to collect property taxes, while offering nothing in return!
@steveleach49732 жыл бұрын
That's a big part of the problem! Government needs to stay out of schools! They hire and produce only liberals! Recipe for failure and eventual loss of country
@jesusliveselima38462 жыл бұрын
That makes sense but you know corrupt government don't want to be sensible
@1pcmedic2 жыл бұрын
Annual tax on sage brush, less than .01
@richardcoughlin89312 жыл бұрын
Since the market value of these lots is close to zero why shouldn’t there be a proportional downward adjustment in property taxes? The county is just wasting money mailing out property tax bills. Incompetence piled on incompetence. If it weren’t for oli and gas, national labs, and military bases New Mexico would cease to function.
@brazosbear45932 жыл бұрын
My grandfather who lived in California bought property in this area back then. He had told my sister and I he was going to leave the land to us. I found out about this scam years ago after grandpa passed.
@warrenrayledbetter99574 жыл бұрын
"We'll remove deceptive photos now that we've been caught."
@Tony-hx2fj2 жыл бұрын
if it is such worthless land how could there be so much collectable taxes due. first put roads, etc the ask for taxes. now it looks like the state wants to further rip off these foolish investors! shame on the state!!!!!!!
@edwarddemedeiros36072 жыл бұрын
OWING TAXES on nonexistent property--or undeveloped property--is a hideous practice. OWE the county for what? Sage and sand?
@billdursa49762 жыл бұрын
I've been seeing a lot of gov't dreams in New Mexico going bankrupt because of poor planning and deceit by lawmakers.
@mondavou94083 жыл бұрын
If they want tax revenue, open it up for off-grid eco friendly homes (aka earthships) there are solutions to this problem but no one in government is a fixer, just a waster.
@pebonifield2 жыл бұрын
Ridiculous that government officials consider the property taxes not collected a negative, any taxes they collect are a bonus as they are receiving money and are providing no services whatsoever.
@catman86702 жыл бұрын
Corruption, it just never ends!
@deborahhopkinson52432 жыл бұрын
The county states that the land is worthless out of one side of their face, and then whines about all the back taxes out of the other. If the land was worthless, why is the county charging people so much in taxes? Who is investigating the county for these crimes?
@gbear10054 жыл бұрын
if they have little resale value, what was the realestate valuation based on?
@thomasbranson72372 жыл бұрын
I own my land and live in Rio Grande Estates in northern Socorro. I love it here.I have my own power and would refuse to be put onto any grid.
@Mike_hocksbig696 ай бұрын
Dude you're playin yourself and nobody is buyin your bullshit. It's absolute fuckin junk land
@paulsuprono72255 жыл бұрын
Who's permitting this FRAUD ! Gotta fire him/her !
@jaynecobb37013 жыл бұрын
No, not really. Fraud is the standard of practice in New Mexico. Gotta promote them.
@1986subway2 жыл бұрын
How the hell do I owe you property taxes on land where there's no infrastructure supplying the land with utilities 🤣🤣.
@braddalton72024 жыл бұрын
Why should these land owners pay taxes on property that does not benifit feom them mabey if state built roads and electric and water
@muffs55mercury612 жыл бұрын
We had a huge land fraud problem in Arizona during much of the 1970s until it got shut down. The perpetrators either got prison but some ended up dead as it became a big criminal organization.
@mariuskuhrau7612 жыл бұрын
Yep, these people were scammed big time. The fact that a lot of tax property is owed on these useless properties makes me wonder why the property tax is not written off. Most of these owners can not be reached or have died and it makes no sense at all to send out monthly property tax bills. Many years ago a very sharp and old Government Accountant and Auditor told me, that outstanding old debt that can not be recovered must be written off. Apparently it raises to many questions and the bad debt also has a negative impact on financial records.
@kvogel92454 жыл бұрын
What kind of idiot would spend money to keep sending out tax notices after all this time? NM government strikes again.
@mikehawk82766 жыл бұрын
The cartel prolly buried bodies all around rio Grande estates
@davidb22062 жыл бұрын
As a sub-issue, foreigners should not be allowed to buy American land. It adds to the overhead costs of trying to communicate with them and follow up, even for legal procedures and foreclosure. Besides, it is not reciprocal. An American expat in their country is forbidden from buying a home or land -- all across Asia. No country allows that. Over a million communist Chinese have a U.S. green card and have bought up millions of properties, especially in California. An American is forbidden from buying a home in China, Taiwan, Japan, Thailand, Philippines. Congress must stop this one-way exploitation. In California, the Chinese corruption money (i.e., money laundering from bribery in China) has driven up home prices and priced working-class Americans out of affordable housing.
@lynndurbin94762 жыл бұрын
Why would NM go after people for taxes on people swindled? Now that seems a waste of time and money for all the NM citizens.
@waltwynn-sandiegonorthcoun84756 жыл бұрын
Find out who got the kick backs 👞 back then...
@michaeld9546 жыл бұрын
I'll buy the entire area for $100
@VioletAmber6 жыл бұрын
And assume the tax debt????
@michaeld9546 жыл бұрын
Lol I guess I didn't write it clear I was being sarcastic since they said they couldn't sell it for any price
@clark572254 жыл бұрын
@@michaeld954 Congratulations. Your offer has been accepted by the County Tax Collector.
@alonsoromo50093 жыл бұрын
Bidding starts at 100 I got 120
@ForneverstarOfficial3 жыл бұрын
@@VioletAmber lmaoo my homestead out here is sick ppl just have no idea and listen to misinformation on the internet
@robz2703 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the report. Truly sad!
@keithb67172 жыл бұрын
The state says the land is worthless, but they want taxes on it. Typical government.
@denisegoheen16522 жыл бұрын
Ok so if it was a scam to begin with only a crook would try to continue to collect taxes from that sale.
@edogisedogis62864 жыл бұрын
What incredibly stupid reporting!!! So much more to the story. They could only sell lots if the country approved the subdivision. Ok, back then they would approve without bonds or proof of financial viability. Fine. Then why charge taxes? They're not providing any services. No one in the city, nor the taxpayers are getting shafted here. Why not condemn the area, section by section and put in road and utilities for one small section? And then progress to the next. Of course, they'd probably want to redraw then entire subdivision to more modern standards. Also, I don't have any tears to waste on those who would buy land based on a photo advertisement.
@norcanexs.g.llc.46252 жыл бұрын
How would you expect people to pay tax on something useless after being ripped off?
@dennisriblett46222 жыл бұрын
Del Rio Taxing a Land Scam ....that is despicable .
@wdwerker2 жыл бұрын
The county trying to collect taxes on fraudulently sold land is insult on top of the injured.
@winfieldjensen59672 жыл бұрын
How can you expect to tax people who were victims of fraudulent land schemes?
@mikemorgan50152 жыл бұрын
So, if the state, and everyone else, says the land is worthless, and property taxes are based upon appraised value, how can any taxes be owed? Looks like a good place for a wind and solar farm.
@tboniusmaximus30472 жыл бұрын
And destroy more wildlife and pollute more land? Both with ugly windmills and solar farms that cannot even make a return, but with the massive concrete and un recycleable waste they produce?
@mikemorgan50152 жыл бұрын
@@tboniusmaximus3047 Yes.
@mikemorgan50152 жыл бұрын
@@tboniusmaximus3047 They ARE making huge returns, btw. At least the ones that are properly managed and maintained. There ARE companies that go into this for the initial subsidies and neglect them. But wind and solar have to go where the wind and sun are. Nothing is free. Cost benefit analyses need to be done for every project. Not just financial, but environmental impact as well. We WILL need to produce power. Would you rather it be from coal? On our current global trajectory, there will be no wildlife to protect, or humans for that matter, if we don't transition to cleaner energy. It will take many decades but I would like to see our species survive for a few hundred years after I'm gone, at least. Properly designed, those concrete foundations can be reused on newer, better generators for hundreds, if not thousands of years in a dry climate like this. The question is, is it already to late to ensure a dry climate anywhere? But hey, if science comes up with ways to make fossil fuels work cleanly, I'm all for it.
@tboniusmaximus30472 жыл бұрын
The thing is coal and oil are efficient and clean these days and we need that fly ash, even better go with nuclear power plants.
@royparker78562 жыл бұрын
Probable reason the county won't just take ownership of the land for delinquent taxes is that they can't then sell it for even half of what is "owed". Anyone who wanted to acquire any blocks of this land for whatever purpose would be on the hook for unpaid taxes.
@davidrabago71292 жыл бұрын
If I'm investing in a piece land I want to see it first, just saying
@Tbone42tx2 жыл бұрын
Wow those postal trays remind me of when I worked at a Catholic Church, they was always sending out bulk mail so I would have to go gather up trays and then take them back to the post office to be sent out.. Miss that job paid good and great benefits!!!
@mikee.51582 жыл бұрын
The land has no value and the county is not providing roads, emergency services, or schools to unpopulated area so how are they needing the $11 million they haven’t received in property taxes ?
@allenatkins22632 жыл бұрын
Nothing says New Jersey more than a company called "Land Ho".
@pjmtts2 жыл бұрын
Pay no attention to the government people who had to approve it before it happened.
@gbear10054 жыл бұрын
FORCE NM to foreclose on all delinquent land.
@Tony-hx2fj2 жыл бұрын
why, they havent earned anything, no roads, schools, sidewalks , etc etc.
@melvinrexwinkle15102 жыл бұрын
Only a fool would buy something sight unseen! Are there people who have more money than brains? Those developers certainly have sorted them out of the general public!
@susiemccomb45012 жыл бұрын
Same in Torrance County, old Triple S land, Valley of Estancia Ranchettes. Flat, treeless, no utilities, rudimentary roads, no water, suitable only for grazing and off grid living if one is stalwart.
@ralan55275 жыл бұрын
The state knew what was happening all along, hoping for a cash cow.
@paulsuprono72255 жыл бұрын
Inevitably . . . government should then become a partner, in this skeem !
@mudpuddle880517 күн бұрын
Property taxes on unimproved worthless land? The amount should be pocket change.
@coronadolivin20302 жыл бұрын
Taxes for what? No roads, sewers or electricity.
@ViciousSadistic Жыл бұрын
Perfect place for an earthship community.
@guineapigzed2 жыл бұрын
So if it’s worthless; How is any tax owed! Them trying to collect tax are the real swindlers.
@ClaireWill71uk6 жыл бұрын
So much Mesa, so many bodies... NY Mafia wit sec area.
@searcher11042 жыл бұрын
How much is the property tax on a lot that has a $0 value?
@gabrielmartinez31713 жыл бұрын
What's the real reason why they cant build there? Even a temporary place, camp ground, off grid cabin. They can generate power with solar the can haul water in or dig a well and Install septic systems.
@sandysamuelman92053 жыл бұрын
My mother in law bought two lots in this development in the 70s. We inherited these lots in 2012. We did try to find where these lots were located but the closest actual dirt road was more than 5 miles from the lots. In order to locate them we had to get GPS location then take the polaris to the lots. Several arroyos later we finally decided it wasn't worth the trip to even see where the lots were located as a normal vehicle would never make it out that far. For us there was no reason to hold on to these lots. The county had no plans to develop the area or at least none they shared with us. We quick claimed the deed to a young man who was speculating that maybe in his life they might have some value. We doubted in our lifetime, say another 30 or so years if we are lucky, anything would happen with development.
@Mountainrock702 жыл бұрын
There is people who have done just that out there.
@davidb22062 жыл бұрын
The wells in lots of the southwest start at around $50,000 and up right now. The communist Chinese were allowed to buy up a huge farm and own all the water rights in SE Arizona, digging their million-dollar wells far deeper than all surrounding towns, which has caused the much shallower wells of thousands of American families to dry up.
@jimh41672 жыл бұрын
Buyer beware.... Simple as that... and now we have satellite images.. and county parcel information
@paulrichards1921 Жыл бұрын
This is about property taxes. Property taxes equate to the Government owns the land. Look up land patent... you actually own the land and pay no taxes. Who would think that the mainstream news media would create a story that was in favor of a slave tax. Property taxes are a way to kick poor people off their land when the can not pay. I think this all worked out well. The State should server the people, not steal from them.
@coyotescactus14484 жыл бұрын
That is not a picture of the Chama valley. It is a picture of the Rio Chama in Abiquiu, New Mexico. Even the news is lying
@tammiebroggins2 жыл бұрын
I almost bought a lot from these people. But it didn't sound right
@tombeck28842 жыл бұрын
It’s a shame that they’re trying to charge tax on such a piece of shit just because someone owns something doesn’t mean that taxes need to be paid on it was owned by the state there’s not millions of people paying taxes taxes should be illegal
@davidb22062 жыл бұрын
Why don't you NAME all the principals of the scam company? Let their family names be disgraced publicly, forever.
@melvinrexwinkle15102 жыл бұрын
Every con artist depends on the ignorance of their mark in order to succeed! This is not news, happening forever!
@7CAJONEZ2 жыл бұрын
The same thing as Rio Rancho. Worthless but now third largest city in NM, pop.110,000. But Rio Rancho is next to Albuquerque There is no reason to live in Rio del Oro, no jobs, small lots, no utilities. Off grid would be ideal with solar and a well.
@saxman71312 жыл бұрын
The human animal is infected with the sickness of greed.
@DeanDayton-gk6le4 жыл бұрын
The fact that the government is try to collect taxes on land fraud deals shows just how corrupt they are.
@ernestbywater4116 жыл бұрын
Is there a reason why the counties involved can't just claim the properties for back taxes. Then they could look at amalgamating lots that are together and see if someone wants it as ranch land.
@Odin31b5 жыл бұрын
Civil forfeiture is a very very slippery steep slope. Giving any government power to take a person's land regardless of reason is dangerous.
@clark572254 жыл бұрын
@@Odin31b Tax delinquent sales are common. In California, five years of nonpayment usually results in a delinquent tax sale of the property.
@1986subway2 жыл бұрын
New Mexico politicians be scamming 🤣🤣
@amanda692 жыл бұрын
So this is really just about NM not getting their tax money, it's not really about the people that got taken. The title should say the greed of NM wanting their tax money 💰
@comontoshi2 жыл бұрын
There’s a place like that in California in the Mojave desert called California City . . . ‘Nuff said.
@mattcolver12 жыл бұрын
Yeah; I thought of California City while I was watching this. Why the county wastes time and money to tax the properties is unbelievable.
@pnuts16494 жыл бұрын
Whenever a government official uses the word unique...…… get ready for a load of BS
@tedvargovich50202 жыл бұрын
The problem is older than the guy that collects the taxes. And he says it's not going to be fixed in his lifetime😕 shows how much the government tries😇 are tax dollars hard at work.
@glennhertel11653 жыл бұрын
Rattlesnake Acers,,, SNAKE IS GOOD FOOD
@lewiscleveland46612 жыл бұрын
Hold your horses so the official public service representatives are saying the land is worthless and yet they're owed millions in taxes well that doesn't make any sense at all does it?
@davidlaney61532 жыл бұрын
Given the age of the dude, he should have replied a 100 years, because he could kick off next year....this situation is not unique to New Mexico it's a Western situation, gullible back East folks get sucked into buying these lots with no knowledge where they are buying...
@blipzero2 жыл бұрын
if u had any of the land out there i know what i would do . (1) build a water tower (2) dig a and lay pipes (3) build or place water evaporators and place time in toobs (4)solar panels and solar banks to charge and power water pumps .. all of the to suck water out of the cool night air and store it for latter . charge it ion the day run it at night . could also have it as a Water Reclamation device.. could also sell of silicon and Trace minerals . well that is some ideas i have .. would be cheaper my way than try and get money from dead people ?
@zacharyallen4597 Жыл бұрын
I bought a parcel 2 years ago from here. My parcel has power at the lot line and a paved road out front. I am planning to retire on it.
@eprofessio2 жыл бұрын
Politicians have turned New Mexico into a ghost town.
@WORDversesWORLD Жыл бұрын
I wish I had their contact list, I have a great deal on ocean front property in Arkansas. I will even throw in the Brooklyn bridge for free!
@DJSbm-282 жыл бұрын
What the heck are they taxing! There is nothing there to tax. Government sucks!
@nomosss Жыл бұрын
Why would you make people pay taxes on a land scam?
@teresaharvey7162 жыл бұрын
They need to give all these people there money back. Thief's.
@ashforkdan4 жыл бұрын
What happens to the state budget if the back taxes are written off?
@got2kittys3 жыл бұрын
Nothing, they already Don't have the money.
@abdikani53 жыл бұрын
I don’t get it. Buying land is a big deal. Don’t people look at the land in person and do research about it before you buy it
@gbear10054 жыл бұрын
no one owes the government anything. the state can take the parcel and DONE.
@carelesswhisper11482 жыл бұрын
Wow that's crazy how horribly sad..
@ipolitobali75642 жыл бұрын
Does anybody out there have two tens for a five LOL
@billhickman79032 жыл бұрын
Larry Never asks right questions
@14253638784 жыл бұрын
Larry Barker is John Stossel on steroids.
@bretta32 жыл бұрын
Why are there property taxes on worthless land?
@jimgoodman18452 жыл бұрын
I can step out of my house and view Shiprock rock..... lol
@CurtisWimer2 жыл бұрын
I bought a lot in Deming, but there's a road and an electric pole on the corner of my property. I haven't moved there and built anything yet. It's also kinda developed since I'd have several neighbors. There's farms and a farmers market close. My closest neighbor is probably 4 lots away. Looks like a little ranch house on Google maps and pretty well kept. It's my little retirement fantasy. It's zoned for a single wide trailer. I may get a nice park model and make it easy. Sounds like I need water collection and storage and a septic. Which sounds like it should be easy too.
@JaySpacely2 жыл бұрын
I bought a lot in Deming today too.
@doneown5032 жыл бұрын
I have been paying taxes for a few years on some land there , the taxes remain very low , & when u build , barely go up much, if Its a modest (small) build.
@davidb22062 жыл бұрын
Fooling yourself. None of that is going to be easy. Especially not in Deming.
@francinerenee80372 жыл бұрын
The ones throwing the trash are probably the ones that wasted their money
@themoviemaniac84162 жыл бұрын
I was living in Albuquerque for a time when that all took place initially. I remember it and thought at the time, who would fall for something like this? I guess with the false pics and all that, anybody could. Similar thing happened in So Cal with the land around the Salton Sea, but at least that really was a resort area once...now you can buy land there for pennies.
@markh9981 Жыл бұрын
It wasn't back when that took place,,,, they just changed names of the company's it's still happening today!!!!
@themoviemaniac8416 Жыл бұрын
@@markh9981 Sorry, but I was there when that happened, friend.
@markh9981 Жыл бұрын
@@themoviemaniac8416 sorry but I was a victim that was held hostage there, for 8 months and my sister and kids, they are dead now including my son and brother. I barely made it out alive. So don't try to even begin to explain it to me. And if you were there perhaps you were part of the scam, it wasn't just a Land scam, it was a full blown human organs trafficking operation being run illegally affiliation with the Dark web sites and the number 8 satanic cult, cowards responsible for the disappearance of hundreds of thousands of girls and people.
@beenwashedup57542 жыл бұрын
No dumping signs should be put up
@mmcmann95392 жыл бұрын
I don’t live there. What is the problem? To far off the grid?