A lot of that happening!

Same for me!

My experience is that KZfaq notifications are just unreliable for all channels, even uncontroversial ones. Sometimes I get them instantly after the video is published, while in other cases they take several hours. My guess is that sometimes their systems get congested.

LETS BE HONEST . IF THAT HAPPEN EVEN ONCE . WOULD YOU TAKE A CHANCE EVER DRIVING IT AGAIN . WE NEED TO KNOW MORE TECHNICAL DATA . 1 CAN YOU JUST USE THE KEY . IF NOT WHY . WONT THE KEY SHUT IT OF . WE NEED ANSWER LIKE THAT

If I remember his original statement correctly the car run out of battery and rolled to a stop with the police rolling blockade as a precaution.

Could have been up for a Darwin award there.

My mk4 jetta could accelerate at full throttle to 225km/h using just the cruise control buttons.

Was it the flashing of the cameras or the increase in volume of the passenger’s screams that alerted you to the solution? 😂

What’s this got to do with an electric jaguar?

@@terrybarton8388 Nothing Terry. It's just over excited keyboard monkeys eager to spill their scary moments behind the wheel of something with tech. they didn't really understand. Like cruise control and brakes.

Great comment

That's the point for me. If it was as bad as that you'd never trust it again but this guy was quite relaxed about driving it after the event

The ipace regenerative braking on high is so effective you hardly need to use the brake pedal when driving normally. Lovely car to drive. The ipace forum shows that the brake problem is not frequent but has happened a few times with people. More frequently, false faults have shown up on the dash and often 'seem' to have been solved by replacing the 12V batts and/or internal charging unit to them. We got the false faults showing up a little while back on ours (MY20) but the batts appear to be fine and put it down to water ingress through leaking windscreen at the same time getting into the dash electrics, though we do not know for sure. The dealer made out the problem was solved with a software update but I don't think that had anything to do with it; the charging software was updated but I believe this was the main traction battery, not the two 12V batts - I could be wrong; reliable technical data is impossible to find. The dealer often gives you no written list of things done unless you ask for it and even then it is sparse. Though concerning, we experienced no control problems at all and got the windscreen changed at the dealer; it was still just inside the warranty period. They mentioned they had to dry things out a bit before they could get their testing software to work but all the software is so fussy that it could just have been a software initiation issue or incompetence. We have had no problem since (in 4months). All modern cars seem far too complex compared to the benefit it gives to the consumer. EVs get a bashing but it seems to me that most problems are not with the EV aspect but rather the speed with which the manufacturer designs and tests. Over the air software updates are now a reason to ship cars before they have been properly tested; look at Tesla. There is no choice of garage for repair anymore. Loads of unique parts with zero stock across many brands. Friends just had their Audi off the road for 3months awaiting a new break light for the MOT; pathetic. When you are waiting for a part it feels like you never actually bought a car; it is effectively still owned by the manufacturer who has allowed you a long-term test drive of their prototype in exchange for the purchase cost.

Shudda handed it back and demanded an XJ6

The dealer has admitted that the brakes fail regularly. Isn’t it written in the highway code somewhere that brakes must be used whilst driving……

Well, I think you are full of sh!t.

So he's denying that many EVs have suffered from similar runaways albeit not all of them being Jags, like the MG in Scotland last year.

If they are recorded then can that be INDEPENDENTLY verified by someone outside of JLR?

@@kabukidreamboyHe’s denying no such thing. He’s saying that if the driver’s telling porkies then the analytic data will find him out

​@@kabukidreamboyno, but as a mechanical engineer I know that cars are designed with brakes that can Overpower the engine without difficulty and stop the car from Top speed even without brake Servo assist! And the ipace has mechanical brakes assigned by servo like any other ICE cars 🤷‍♂️ So he should have just jammed the brakes and keep the pedal pressure as much as he could until the car stops 🤷‍♂️

Not the EVs fault, its the drivers. They rear ended you by not paying attention.

Thought all cars were one pedal braking !!

New txe got same problem as got electronic handbrake because it doesn't go into park automatically as was a incident at London City airport few months ago when Marshall was injured

Basically EV are junk and should never be on roads .all belong in thames

@stevendavis7079 one pedal braking is where they lift their foot off accelerator and the car slows using the regenerative braking. Many EV'S this can be adjusted. Personally I think it should deactivate under 15mph.

Surely the jag recorded EVERYTHING from multiple cameras 📷 😳?? Mabey not the driver, but all other data recordings SHOULD be locked in the car memory,😮

same firm that supplied cameras to the Pentagon on 911...

Depends, the cameras can be live feed only (to monitor traffic flows, not record). Besides if it's part of a criminal investigation then it won't be shown until any court case. It can be subjudice until then.

the video is being stored with the January 6th insurrection video for your own protection

@@specialkonacid6574 the Jan 6 editor getting 80,000 hours down to the only 40 seconds anyone ever needs to see must be excellent.

Highly likely.

That’s the only way his calling the police makes sense.

Maybe he's trying to make a case to get his money back on the car because he has realized he has been sold a pup.

suppressed , but now its out in the open .... says all we need to know about our government and the lack of freedom they are about to impose on the people

Exactly. Whatever they tell you, think the opposite and you won’t be too far from the truth.

Yep. Distract and discredit

My bro crashed his Hy Kona EV, he put it into reverse and it went forward into a lamppost,,, it happened on his driveway early that day, nothing wrong with it say the dealership, had to go through their insurance to fix it 😢

Precisely, if MSM is now saying that absolutely nothing happened at Gatwick airport carpark recently, something absolutely did.

That depends on the software.

That's not strictly true. People think diag software tells them everything.. it doesn't by a long shot. Logs often don't store a huge amount of data. .. manufacturers can probably delve deeper but dealers absolutely cannot see anywhere near everything

I did the same thing but only connected the end to carb, my brother controlled the throttle and I drove.... lets just say it was interesting... especially when he got bored and forgot he was throttle man :-)

@@loonaticsrunningtheassylum Specialist data analysis software can reveal data streams from various ECU's, a bit like an aircraft's 'Black Box'. This is not available to the public.

I was about to make a comment about this. Computerised and electronic things DO go rogue. Some people seem to think EVs are infallible

A point I made three days ago, for which many in the comments slagged me off.

I thought the battery went flat.....🤔

@@Lookup2WakeupThought that too. Did not hear anything about the 'brakes started to work'.

Electric will always go wrong,my sunroofs playing up and it’s raining!

I found it highly convenient, that both times, he just so happened on a motorway, which is the perfect place to do this kind of speed. Not sure what percentage of his driving he does on motorways, but the odds have got to be against this being genuine.

Trouble is, automatic car cant change gear, can’t push the clutch in. I have the option of push button start on my 20 year old Merc and if I use that I can’t just switch it off, going to rethink this. But my brakes have a direct connection to the pedal, if my throttle by wire goes nuts I could slow it down and come to a safe stop as long as I didn’t gently push the brakes until the fluid boiled.

@@shadgrind you can select "neutral" did you not know that ? You can turn off a push button start , have you read the instructions .. of course not you are a man :-) PS automatic cars can change gear ... you are obviously a moron

@@shadgrind If you select neutral on an electric car, you get exactly what you would expect to get in any other automatic.

​@@6chhelipilot If the system is working correctly. It's not a mechanical linkage so you are at the mercy of the controller and actuators doing their thing, and if the car is already misbehaving chances are that will too.

@@6chhelipilotThe bloke claimed he tried to select neutral but the button wasn’t working. It is a problem with electronic gear selectors, if the computer has a brain fart it isn’t going to work unlike a mechanical selector with a physical linkage to the gearbox.

To put it another way: censorship.

What you rambling about

This is not true. Stop spreading BS.

to the two replies he IS CORRECT it's NOT "BS" if you bothered to actually LOOK it is easy to find them SAYING "malinformation is true facts and data but inconvenient true facts and data we do not want the peasants to know about" or are you two ponces from the government and here to help?

Then why aren't all politicians and MSM journalists in prison???? Stop talking bollocks

Police would reduce speed to match the car behind then when contact has been made they will reduce their speed so little damage will result and additionally the risk of injury, scratches at most, personally I think it be more effective drive in front then slam on the brakes, full on lock up, there's airbags. Think about it

@@hisir750l1agreed but at speeds of possibly 120? The merest touch from behind (😮) totally upsets the balance of a car as can be seen on multiple crash videos on KZfaq alone, even when they were expecting it.

To be honest, ladies running over things with their car by mistake is old and common. I wouldn't be surprised to learn that the same lady ran over things half a dozen times in the previous 20 years. There's people that should never be allowed to drive.

l almost got whacked by a old lady in a Ford urban assault trerk because she could hardly see over the wheel and over the bonnet/hood and didn't even bother to look left or right when she pulled out onto the road.

That was driver error

@@1maico1 where did that get confirmed?... last updates I can find is end of last year when the driver was bailed a second time until sometime this year. It's a bit odd that a simple case of driver error would not have already had charges applied pending prosecution. That case never made sense when it happened either.

@@keithianlockeranks closed around that one - money talks?

Simply put the car in neutral? and bugger the engine up

@@lolorick5885would you rather be a smoking pile of flesh or have a messed up engine?

Macgyver just turned off the key when that happened to him in an episode 40 years ago. Still a valid strategy just sayin’

​@@lolorick5885 At worst it would bounce off the rev limiter for 20 seconds while you pulled onto the hard shoulder

​@@Theweouthereforrealclub- apart from steering lock it's bullet proof 😉

😂😂😂

Love it!

It's every car with a computer module on it. Software bugs happen ALL THE TIME. As a dealer master tech the amount of "intermittent faults" that customers complain of CONSTANTLY is off the scale. Sometimes caused by intermittent crap connections (due to using poor quality wire, connections etc) but a lot of the time it's a software bug

A man has been arrested for dangerous driving in the Jaguar I-Pace. The story isn't what it seemed.

Unless the blokes a freemason this was probably a cover up for something that either is constantly happening or really did happen here

@@stephenbirchall941Yup, there are some holes in this man’s story.

The car didn't "go through the garage door" by itself. You put it through there. All modern cars have chips in their ECUs which record relevant motor/car data and it'll show you what you did. People crash their cars in parking lots all over the planet all the time. People make mistakes.

How to say I'm a complete plank without actually saying it......

nope they not fitted one on any of the ev

Seems to me so much mis information being given to us in order to stop us driving

Great news youngsters aren't buying the EV propaganda

Not a 90s car you won't - it has to be 4 years old and still needs tax and MoT until 2030

Sorry - 40 yoa

As someone who restores old vehicles, 30 to 40 years old, you might start struggling to find the parts or the mechanics who know the cars.

The irony is that an EV should be less complex than an ICE. Ok, the charging is a little tricky but it's just batteries, motors and motor controllers. But the manufacturers choose to put in so much unnecessary software crap and 'automatic' systems in modern cars that are not sufficiently tested that things go wrong and the things that go wrong need the manufacturer to fix them because parts are not common and propitiatory software is needed to diagnose the computers (not that much diagnosis takes place; dealers just tend to replace modules until the problem appears to go away).

Yeah the parts could be an issue... there're issues every way around for sure.@@medler2110

All facts are not known so hold your opine until we find the software is very faulty or he is a clever manipulist

I agree. I’m still undecided but I’ve seen some message from internal WhatsApp groups that lead me to believe wiring problems in the front of the car could easily cause this. We shall see

Ex reality TV ‘star’ 😂

@primafacie - different incident.

I did (although not a 100mph incident). The car is beautiful to drive and its easy to think it will be fine after being looked at by JLR. That is until it does it or something similar again. Mine was in the garage for 14 weeks over the past 5 years because of multiple electrical system faults.

Usually the only time such specific data is captured is when an airbag is deployed so the moments leading up to crash can be fully investigated.

@@SabretoothBarnacle Search “Jaguar Land Rover remote access”

But CAN the POLICE? and how tempted would JLR be to hit 'Erase all' 🤔

@@Craig-wp3pz I believe some police forces can with some vehicles but it's usually a call to a specialty service/manufacturer's HQ

@@SabretoothBarnacle not exactly an independent solution or a secure one.... Would jaguar be willing to incriminate themselves if they are Cop,Judge AND Jury?????

It's a big roundabout. Switch island it's called. I know the roads/junctions well. It is doable at that speed - as is the m57 m62 junction too

@@powjjwhat about the adverse camber at the end doing the the speed he was doing 🤷‍♂️

Plus there’s no hard shoulder there

@@peterclarke3300 it's not cross falling. It's a massive junction of about 7 lanes. It's not a typical roundabout

@@peterclarke3300 and when have you ever been there when there's no cars there. I've driven that junction countless times and I've never been there without other cars

Yes what is the chance for Accelerator stuck Brake does not work Regen brake does not work Gear selection to neutral does not work Also brakes are normal brakes, just like in any ICE car..

electric car re-genitive brakes (e.g. the moto [the electric motor], runs backwards, the putting braking energy back in the batteries, to try get a little mile of under, mile range, all electric car suffer from? and all does software, you user (driver) just presses break pedal and software decides which braking in applied and looks like ars was not doing thin thinking, may of also been the driver, the car still not in the clear yet?

@@dh2032 no it’s traditional hydraulic brake system. The cars software doesn’t have to decide between regen or braking afaik

It’s all fly by wire. There’s a “brake booster unit” that applies the actual pressure by amplifying feedback from the brake pedal. Mine had to be replaced twice, once after brakes completely failed and wheel motors stayed on until ignition switched off.

A man has been arrested for dangerous driving in the Jaguar I-Pace. The story isn't what it seemed.

😂

JLR told me the default if the accelerator is pressed at the same time as the brake, is that the car will brake. The issue I experienced was that the brake went solid and couldn’t be pressed. And my foot was nowhere near the accelerator as I was regenerative braking to a stop at the lights. Would have broken my leg if my coliision had been at speed.

my 58 plate Alfa is similar, just the right level of aids, not massively complicated

He will be exonerated by corrupt judiciary , or intell will move him abroad

I'd a similar issue with a 1992 K10 Nissan Micra around 1998. Throttle stuck open on a motorway slip road heading to a T-junction. No drama, neutral took the drive out of the equation then it was knocking off the engine. As you say, imagine that in an EV.

Next time just press the clutch. The engine will be bouncing off of the limiter but no power will be going to the wheels

Thank you!

The Tesla is massively under for risk/cost to replace and repair, this is why (in part) insurance is going up due to expensive motor owners not getting the true like for like ins costs compared to older and or cheaper motors

My point exactly!! I too am chasing windscreen leaks… on my 1969 Renault 😂

I have a 3yr old McLaren that's just gone back to the garage for corrosion!! and when it rains, the windows drop and won't go back up even if the car is locked.

A MK 1 escort screen probably wouldn't leak

​@@mcnelstv1880😱🤯 and they're showing & claiming they put so much care into creating them ... See the documentaries in the factory and offices = space age stuff! 🤔🤔

There are no gears, it's a single-speed, constant mesh transmission, no clutch. If there had been a kill switch, it could have turned off power to the motor/s, maybe all EV's should have a big main breaker switch in reach of the driver.

No one that buys an I-pace can take a roundabout at 120. You’d have to both be a petrol head and be a good driver and we know the combination is rare. I do a lot of track driving and the amount of times I’ve come up against money and money has lost is countless. Few years ago I was allegedly racing a Lamborghini urus (in 🔒⬇️) we both took the same corner around the same speed yet he lost control and hit the railing. I was in a rwd 430d and even had fun on the exit, him not so much. Problem is money buys you all sorts but it does not buy you skill. I highly doubt anyone with the skills to handle that would buy an ipace, it’s just not conceivable😅

I've had a dozen comments vanish from Geoffs vids so I just don't bother actually writing any. This will probably get deleted just because it's verifying that it happens lol!

Even benign comments disappear. I've noticed that if I'm writing a comment and an ad starts the comment often doesn't post.

​@@annebeignatborde1832Yes, if you are writing a comment in the app and an ad starts you will lose whatever you have written. Super annoying.

@@ferrumignis yes, it happened when I wrote that message. I had to write it again because I forgot to make a copy before posting which is what I do now if I'm writing a long one. I think some channels (main stream media ones) have some kind of filtering of specific words. The other evening I was trying to respond to someone about Macron wanting to send troops to a certain country and after 4 tries I split certain words and sentences with spaces and carriage returns and it posted.

​@@annebeignatborde1832KZfaq is run by Google and the algorithm automatically deletes anything that remotely goes against their agenda. Millions of valid comments are deleted on a daily basis. Censorship is rife.

it's not a problem. They don't need to retrieve any data. They will make up whatever data they need to show the EV is safe if the data shows anything apart from that.

​@@miff227right... And the Marmots are wrapping chocolate bars in a factory in the Alps.😐 Have you found out about the VW Dieselgate scandal or Boeing's grave problems or Toyota's acceleration issues or many manufacturers EuroNCAP passenger side scandal or Ford's Pinto and the recent ones of BMW's possible Diesel cheating software and the long list goes on... So such thing isn't going to be easy to hide, leads to Blackmail, leaves traces and too many people are involved.

​@@miff227FYI just very few cars, usually race cars and test ones log real time data. There has to be enough resources, memory and computational, to store it and Also a protocol for what data and how long is to be stored. There is a huge number of relevant data that should & can be logged... But you need computational power that costs a lot to do it safely and not lose it!

The police couldn't possibly accuse him of this if he took it to JLR after the first time and got a clean bill of health.

Didn’t work when it happened to mine. The collision avoidance system alerted. The brakes went solid just before that happened and didn’t work. Motors wouldn’t stop until finally managed to turn ignition off. Accelerator pedal wasn’t touched. JLR found nothing but promptly replaced the brake booster unit 🤔