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For the money, B58TU. For ALL OUT performance, still the B58TU. Technically, B58TU is the only one in the 7s. Fastest S58 is like a 8.3 in the 1/4 mile. For the best performance on a stock motor, S58 and it’s not close at all. With simple bolt ons, they can make nearly 800AWHP with a. Little bit of E

@@AYO_KO The S58 makes infinitely more power than a B58 for 99.9% of people. No one is running 7s or 8s in their daily driver lol. People need to just compare motors with similar tunes, piggybacks, downpipes, and then at the "high end" for civilian consumers would be items like port injection, upgraded turbos, and possibly upgraded connecting rods. S58 is the clear winner, by a lot.

@@AYO_KOyou can literally make 800whp on a b58 stock internals too. 80whp difference is not worth the 40k extra

@@2seep true. But that difference is everything that comes with the power. Motor to motor, your argument makes sense but we can’t forget, S58 does 750WHP with downpipes, intakes, and an E30 mix. The B58 is getting anywhere near that with the same mods. The money you’d save getting the B58 over the S, would go into mods that could help the B58 keep up with a bolt on S58. But like every keyboard warrior will remind us, one is an M, and one isn’t. The B58 will definitely deliver in a straight line but the S58 will be in a chassis that just has an all around edge in performance. Of course if we only care about straight line, then the M goodies mean nothing.

@@G82Jesse I get what you’re saying. It’s just the dollar value of that power, where the line is blurred. $70k for a used 22 G80 xDrive. $5k in ECU unlock, bolt ons, and tuning gives you monumental horsepower. But the B58 can be had for $35k. Throw $10k-$15k into that and you’re making the same power as a bolt on E30 S58 car but you’re only $45k-$50k all in as opposed to $75k with the M car

E50 blend for the 700+whp

@@cesmotorsportofficial so I assume that's e85 making 880?

Yes the 880whp was on full e85 with upgraded Pure turbos. Stock turbo G8X's can see mid to low 700s with e50

@@cesmotorsportofficial do you think with pure turbos on 93 could make 750+?

What is the max crank power with 99 ron or 93 us on stock turbos fbo with uprated intake manifold?

Yes

​@@cesmotorsportofficialdo yyou guy unlock the ecu there or do u send it out?

@bfromthea7663unfortunately 2jz came out in like 1992 and has been capable and pushed to 1160whp on stock bottom end . Some blew up after months of thrashing it and some live if they are conservative with it. BMW finally made something modern that’s strong and bmw fans acting like they have never seen this out of a straight six. Lol

@bfromthea7663 Its the same engine...

@bfromthea7663it’s the same thing my guy. Every single internal is exactly the same. All Toyota did was put it in the body

@@2seepno you misread the others guy there is actually 2 an updated variant of the b58 in the newer supra models after 2020s