Sounds gay. Sounds fake.

Nice piece of info. Thank you for sharing

Necessity is the mother of invention

We can thank Saab and volvo for a lot of the safety and comforts that we have in modern vehicles. Thanks Sweden 😂

Or thank the pampered fighter pilots who didn't want to be cold. I'm not gonna say they are whiney.....mwa ha ha. Jk.

Smoothe

They did ​@@B1gLupu

@@B1gLupuFinland had Drakens between 1972-2000

​@@bjorn47yeah we got access to NATO stuff, F-18 Hornets, only after fall of USSR at mid 90's

He mentions this at around ~19:00

could use imgur or something

Draken. Fly by wire...

I lived in Kølvrå, very close to the air base. Boy those Drakens were LAUD.

@@carstenhansen5757 Yeah, the first time i heard the Draken irl i was shocked at the loudness of this classic jet fighter. The Viggen was also way louder than the Gripen fighters i was used to.. I grew up near an air force base in Northern Sweden but i was born in the late 80s so Gripen was what they used when i was old enough to care about badassery. Was at air show/events that i first heard Draken and Viggen and man ..the level of sound they emmitted, so very loud n proud.

​@@LyricalSteelerI did stand just beside the runway just at the point where two Viggen lifted off and did a very steep climb. All I could focus on was to block as much sound as possible. Didn't work that well since lots of the very deep sound are transmitted through the skull bone. This was when I visited one of the partly hidden runways in the woods in northern Sweden, where part of the base did make use of normal car roads. One of the places they could deploy to in case of war. Most probably planes from F21.

If I remember correctly, Finland was limited on how many airplanes they could have due to some treaty. For some weird reason, Finland had a lot more pilots than aircrafts, and Sweden had a lot of surplus aircraft they weren't really using.

@@MrJamesBanana Yes. The Paris treaty that was signed after WWII set the limit to 60 fighter jets, though in reality that was never required. In the 1970s and 1980s Finland had 73 fighter jets (47 Drakens and 26 MIG-21bis). Not sure about the amount of fighter pilots, but it is plausible that there were more than the fighter jets. As far as I've understood, many countries assign a specific jet to a specific flying crew. That's never been the case in Finland and I believe that we try to use up our planes until they fly no more. The Finnish F-18s have probably among the highest number of flying hours simply because multiple crews are assigned to each.

Dad worked as an mechanic at an airfield most of his conscription in -78 and he still says that Draken is the loudest thing he's ever heard!

We had a Draken that was painted in red white red like our flag and i can clearly remember when i saw this plane the last time in the air. What a shame they put them to rest.

​@@riesa85 As a conscript auxiliary mechanic in -86 when I was doing daily maintenance for Draken, I can concur your father's memories. MiG-21 was just a whining toy when compared to roar of the Draken!😁

Yea. My father was a ground crew guy in the 70s. And he told me about how sometiles pilots would go missing with litle to no explaination to anyone.

Your numbers are low. And, while the AJ37 was an impressive plane, large numbers also lost their lives in A32 Lansen(Draken never did low-level, since it was only ever an interceptor).

@@mooneyes2k478 the tunnan did some low level flying but mostly as a defensive messure. Not as a plan for attack.

Livef in Helsingborg and had F10 and Ljungbyhed flygskola quite near so could easily see what they were up to from time to time, especially flying low over Öresund.

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I didn´t grew up near to a military airfield, but I am a Swede - and though Sweden is a big country, it is not big when you fly an aircraft like this. I saw these many times as a kid, and I too remember the roar of them. For me, this roar was only beaten by the Viggen. I still remember my heartbeat going up when seing and hearing both of these planes - "Those are OUR guys!" ❤

Hi Tim, I have never heard the sound of the Draken unfortunately and wish I had. I love the look of it! If you like the sound of jet engines may I suggest looking up the "Vulcan howl" It is an old British bomber but the sound still sends a shiver down my spine.

Funny how all Swedish fighter jets have great sound. Gripen compressor sound is epic up to this day and age.

One thing I love about Sweden and the swedes is that while for my money, other languages are more similar to English in actual use- I would argue for various reasons it's Spanish- the fact remains that the Swedes have a comprehensive and absolute mastery in the usages of "fuck."

In Denmark we had both Draken and Starfighter in the 70's and 80's. The Draken had its impressive roar and the Starfighter its howling sound. You allways knew what was coming. The Draken really made you feel confident, that the country was prepared to fight😊

Actually it was designed in the late 40's

My granddad was among the first 3 who got to fly the Draken. According to him it was his 2nd most favorite plane to pilot, 1st being Tunnan. But I always remember him talking about laying eyes on the Draken for the first time in real life. Him and his fellow pilots said "It looks like an UFO".

There's an interesting British tank from WW2 that looks like what they would've thought the future to be like

Not so long ago Japan turned it into a transformable mecha in the anime Macross Delta

I wonder why they retired the crafts instead of selling most of them to other countries once they were 2 generations old and considered obsolete by high-tech countries (but not other countries)

Is that all jet combat aircraft or all jet period because a lot of countries use propeller driven support aircraft like AWACS, refueling planes, cargo planes/transport aircraft etc etc. if we are going off of all jet period they might be the only country ever to do that

​​​@@Grebogoborp it was all jet combat aircraft, SAAB J29, J35, A32and then Sk/A60, A/J37 and J/A37 The unarmed DC3 SIGINT and transport aircraft were too few to matter to the statistics. For Swedish aircraft, mid-air refuelling wasn't a thing until the mid '00s as part of a mid life refit of the JAS39C/D to make it more compatible with NATO tactics under the Partnership for peace initiative.

@@SonsOfLorgar you can't say too few to count when making a statement of all jet airforce.

Even the third strongest. At that point we had more planes than Great Britain.

@@solreaver83 It was 100% jet powered combat aircrafts, the ones he mentioned weren't combat aircrafts. Transport ones, he just added that Sweden never invested heavily in transport aircrafts as Sweden never intended to fight long outside it's own borders, focusing on defensive doctrine, so it had like 1 or 2 transport planes and a couple of disarmed older propeller fighters used for training. So if you discounted like 4+ airplanes out of like 400+ that didn't have any real purpose or doctrine focused on using them, then the whole airplane fleet could been considered Jet powered, but he limited it to "Combat" Airforce beeing pure jet.

Drake. So Draken is The Kite or Dragon. Original name for kite is probably Dragon if it was the Chinese. So Drake, Dragon, Drachen... you kinda see the germanic relation in the languages there....

@@amadeuz819interesting. In Russian dragon is дракон (drakon) while the word for kite is flying snake for some reason lol

@@rigasarzemnieks4230 Yep it`s the exact same in swedish, our languages are related after all. Our current fighter Gripen also translates to griffon so i don`t know if the draken is named after a kite or was the first to set the trend of mythologically named swedish fighter jets.

@@theinfiltrator100Can have something with this to do and why English also separated Dragon and Kite word "Dragons are traditional Chinese kite designs with long flowing tails. Most Dragons need no assembly and are very easy to fly making them ideal for young kitefliers. Their long tails provide lift as well as stability." A snake has a long tail so...

​@@rigasarzemnieks4230it is exactly the same in swedish, germanic language 🫡

For a brief period of time, 1996 -99, they all served together as interceptors in the SAF. I live next to the F7 Wing at Såtenäs in Sweden, and I saw 'em all!

which makes it funny that usa apparently did some diplomatic shit to block export of at least one of those models, and their shenanigans was leaked (but ultimately changed nothing).

I had one too

Mee too 😂

I am a 55 year old Swede remembering these in the sky as a kid. Sometimes sonic booms shook the ground. As a 5 year old, that stuck in my mind.

@@fredrikh9299 my dad has a similar story about the boom, he's almost 70 now. i've only experienced the JAS when it crashed in stockholm and the blue angels a few times, it really freaked me out lol, the power of the sound shock wave that shook my body. i was a young kid and f-ing terrified, lol

I mean to be fair, Saab doesn't develop it's own engines from scratch, which is one of the hardest parts. But on the other hand only very few countries are currently able to build domestically developed competitive jet engines. India has spent a lot of money and time trying but without success yet.

Sorry, but neither do Lockheed, Boeing, Northrop-Grumman etc. build their own engines. They're also developed by companies like GE, P&W, RR among others... @@Anonymous-zu7dh

@@Anonymous-zu7dh You mean like Lockheed Martin planes flies with LM engines or Boeing planes flies with Boeing engines? Wait they don't they get their engines from other companies like GE and P&W just like SAAB...

@@Anonymous-zu7dh But the engines are built in Sweden, by Volvo. And it is also tradition to ad or greatly improve the afterburner on the engines they build.

Exactly my thought - so I guess that there must have been a dozen teams with at least one very capable engineer in each group. Sometimes we should pause to remember and honor such good men: SAAB's design staff, headed by aircraft engineer Erik Bratt, and a team of more than 500 technicians, constructed a small test aircraft to explore the behaviour of the new wing. (From Wikipedia).

ah yes Premium dorito plane moment

Looks good at air shows, but in modern air to air combat, it’s just a fancy way to die.

Russia tries to steal it as their own invention

@@Beowulf_DW yeah, in modern airfights they dont even see each other.

​@@Beowulf_DWIn modern air to air combat is the key phrasing.

An absolute lie.

@@yxmichaelxyyxmichaelxy3074 an absolute moron

​​@@yxmichaelxyyxmichaelxy3074 i think its true. Old DDR/EAST GERMANY soldiers told us simular stories from the north Rügen Island

My friend Mathias confirms.

@@edonveil9887Mathias Rust, the Legendary red square stormer. He was a wild thing back in time. And unbelievably lucky 😁

You mean dragon (or kite depend on what is meant whit drake)

And good timing on the video. Welcome to NATO!

Just like the English Electric lighting bro, we was years ahead. Oh BTW welcome to the family.

Canadian here. Proud of you too. Welcome to NATO friend!

Really an awesome jet. Welcome to NATO.

Thanks for the Gripens

I mean... technically speaking we still aren't, at least if people stick to ''the plan'' after all: ''Om Sverige blir angripet av ett annat land kommer vi aldrig att ge upp. Alla uppgifter om att motståndet ska upphöra är falska.'' We aren't back to the insane levels of the cold war-era, but we're ramping up almost daily nowadays.

Since it is what the Swedes are sending Ukraine, a video on it would be timely to say the least...plus it looks cool!

I thought he did one on the Gripen, but maybe I’m thinking of the Rafael video. You might check the catalog. Edit: I was wrong, it was Alex Hollings on Sandbox news who did a video on the Gripen that I was remembering.

Done both the Draken and Viggen now so only a matter of time unless he decides to tease us by covering the Flying barrel first 😂

I think he did a short analysis on the Gripen during the warographics video on what Sweden brings to NATO

SAAB made fighter versions of the Lansen a couple of years after it was introduced.

I think he meaned the "Jaktviggen"...

It's likely in reference to the J32B night fighter variant of the Lansen

A few minor flaws in the correction; Saab 32 Lansen was, as mentioned in other comments, also produced in a fighter version as an interim solution between the J29 and the J35. The Saab 37 was intended to serve in attack, reconnaissance AND fighter roles from the start (although the fighter version was for a brief period in some doubt due to budget restraints). The attack version, AJ37, was however the first one fielded (1971) since it replaced the older A32 and the fighter version, JA37 replacing the more modern J35, being the last (1979).

Also, the name is a giveaway when it comes to the intended role. The JA 37 and AJ 37 both have a J in their designation. The J stands for Jakt, or Hunt, if translated to English. That is what a fighter is called in Sweden. The A stand for attack. Which means it has a striker/fighter-bomber role. And the order of the letters tells of what their primary role is. So even the attacker version of the plane was intended, if needed, to be able to work as a fighter. The AJ 37 could carry both gunpods and air-to-air missiles and have a radar. It is less made for fighting other planes than the JA 37. But can still do the job if needed.

I am a 55 year old Swede remembering these in the sky as a kid. Sometimes sonic booms shook the ground. As a 5 year old, that stuck in my mind.

I remember on F10 our intercept standby took off while we were having some instructions. Our officer stood three meters away screaming at the top of his lungs and we couldn't hear a thing over the roar of two Dragons doing a full AB takeoff half a mile away.

Every Saab fighter seemed to be the loudest plane of it's generation.

fighter or interceptor? careful..

@@stuka101 Was just thinking the Lightning was right up there, but hampered by chronic lack of fuel capacity.

@@fredyellowsnow7492it’s maybe a pity they refused to put the fairey delta 2 into production. Unfortunately the British government didn’t think they’d need interceptors for very long as long range missiles had just started to be introduced and were expected to replace bombers in the next few years. In fact the government weren’t helpful at all.

How do you land a Draken which engine failure. I guess that flow completely changes around the wing. Probably the leading part stalls and the plane dives. The F-15 moves the intake and spill under the wing. Also: narrow intake. Mirage separates intake and wing like the star fighter.

@@ArneChristianRosenfeldt If the engine failed completely you probably didn't land but ejected instead...

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Yes my SAAB 96 I'd 2, a 99 + 900 all new then hoards of 2nd hand SAAB's. 😅❤😅

What a silly comment. Only thing that the “defensive alliance” can bring you is to send your young boys to fight America’s pointless wars in the middle east (against people that did you no harm and who pose zero risk to your country) not to mention the said wars always end up like Vietnam/Afghanistan anyways, unless you take pride in killing civilians (like Israel is doing now) which I doubt a scandinavian country would do. If you are refering to “capabilities” in war against an army that has in it’s inventory more than small arms and camels (let’s say Russia in the case of Sweden), then the membership only puts you in not so famous “first strike targets” which I’m sure would not be the case if you remained neutral, or even if they did, it’s pretty much the same, you die, just like me and most of other Europeans alive at the moment the real war starts. I don’t know much about your country except that it offers much more to an ordinary man then most countries in the world (that is the reason I consider Sweden a nation that most others should aspire to be like). Also a nation that has quiet a lot of domestic problems (gang violence, etc) and should have handled that instead of picking sides in a potential conflict that has no victor. Just to say that I’m not a bot that is typing this from the Kremlin basement, and that I have recieved no payment for stating my opinion (sadly the reason for me feeling the need to type the last sentance is probably the same Sweden joined NATO-> BS lies that Uncle Sam is spreading in an effort to protect himself and have a better starting position if the sh*t hits the fan). May God be with us all that want peace and know the truth about the outcome of the next “great war”.

What Sweden's armed forces lack in size they more than make up for with top-of-the-line fighter jets and advanced tech. Those capabilities are a massive force multiplier for NATO forces.

And yet another European trip wire that doesn't pull their weight, and can trigger American kids into fighting strangers to the death 4000 miles from home for reasons they don't understand nor care about... What a great addition!! Just what we need: another European country that cant be bothered to spend even the 2% of GDP, bare minimum requirement on their military, and will rely on American money, lives, and capabilities to defend them while they provide their citizens a level of social spending we can only fantasize about. America really should pull out of NATO. Its a total scam. Poland, France, Britain, and Greece are the only other countries that pull their weight in NATO, and Britain has to get VERY creative with their accounting to hit that 2% minimum number. Everyone else is just taking advantage of us. Its a farce.

​@@ManiaMac1613they only spend 1.3% of their GDP on defense... They're taking advantage of America just like everyone else in the "alliance". *except Poland, Greece, France, and sort of Britain.

​@@ManiaMac1613 Ukraine praises the Swedish CV-90 IFV higher than the Bradley. It lacks anti tank missiles but the model in Swedish use currently has a 40 mm cannon capable of taking out tanks from the side. They also praise the strv 122 (Swedish model of leopard 2) as the best leopard 2 tank they've received. I mean it gotta be an endorsement when they're asking to produce CV-90's on a license upwards of 1000 units. (Something like 1400 units exist currently, 500 ish in Sweden).

Why is that good? Its just one more European nation that only spends 1.3% of its GDP on its military. 80% of NATO is just scamming us. We should just pull out of the "alliance" and use the funds we defend Europe with to fix problems here at home. The EU has a bigger GDP and population than America. They can figure it out all by themselves. Its bad for both of us. We get taken advantage of, and Europe has grown complacent and soft because they can rely on American military power. Its not helping anyone.

Fun Fact: Not even one other NATO country has strategic airlift capabilities. Meaning that everyone in NATO is scamming America. Its not really a "mutual defense" alliance if literally none of our "partners" even have the ability to get to North America in the event of an Article 5 declaration. "Geez guys, we'd love to help but we don't have a ride."🤡🤡

Mind boggling for back then compared to an f-15 climbs at 50,000 fpm.

​@@levischittlord6558 Sure

Thrust to weigh ratios don't count for nothing.

don't forget 6,500 KG = 7,17 TONS at 09:17

Even better than the Hawker Hunter?

@@peterpearson1675 The Hawker Hunter is a beauty from the front, but the proportions from every other angle are somewhat underwhelming for me.

KA1 här :D

​@@ClaymooreEOC KA3 in memoriam.😢

Yeah. Up until the 90s, Sweden’s defence system was astonishing.

Talk softly and carry a big stick LOL

Or a waste of money as the soviets wouldn't have invaded anyway.its like Britain with nukes.nobodies interested in attacking Britain

Well. More like kites are just called dragons

@@kricku Not at all. “Drake” and “Drake” might be spelled the same but they are still two different words depending on what you’re talking about.

Just out of curiosity, what was the other competitor for the podium? 🙂 (Mine was MiG-23, there was just something in that plane)

His videos are always filled with errors.

True, alongside the F5A and the spitfire

I also saw the Draken at an air show in the 90s and man, it was so loud compared to the Gripen.. in a good way. Very badass. Did indeed make an impression. Viggen in camo paint job is my favorite Swedish jet fighter though.

Clarification: The cold war low altitude limit was 30ft in level straight flight over open water if the sight was clear for at least 3km... no speed restriction... 150ft over land, with no supersonic speed over inhabited areas... Crashes from colliding with the mast of civilian sailing boats has occured...

And Lansen and Tunnan. Over the Baltic they flew at 30 feet and over land at 60-90 feet. They were flying like they would at war.

A gung-ho attitude, lingering problems with the aircraft and the warlike flight limits did cost a lot of lives in the Swedish Air force during the cold ware. It should be noted that improved training and kinks worked out from the planes brought the losses down a lot in the 1970s and beyond while still maintaining much of the realism.

​@@bjornerikroth...and yet the daring spirit and gung-ho attitude are a part of making any potential foe think long and hard about starting any trouble. Lives not lost in vain, and peace maintained for us all.

I was not aware if this. In Danish service it was very safe, in contrast to our F100s

It's not useless, but it is damn risky, since it by definition slows you down a lot and puts you in a low energy state. But the ability to force an overshoot or just point your nose a bit more is a valuable thing in the right circumstances, especially if you can combine that with high off-bore missiles.

I would like to see someone "cobra"-out an incoming missile (in the best case, one that is travelling sub-sonic). That's why it just isn't practical in today's BVRC world.