Bumblestripe wouldn't get friendzoned if he had valued having Dovewing as a friend.

Cherryfall? Really? I never even noticed. Could have sworn Rosetail's been into this guy for years.

I hope that the Erins won't make Bumblestripe pull an Ashfur.

I think bumblestripe is sweet but he is blinded but his love for dovewing and doesn't realize how he is making dovewing feel

When he said ‘get into the bad stuff’ I got a cigarette ad.

1 like= 1 bumblestripe cured

Honestly I think Bumblestripe should’ve ended up with the Rosepetal, as she seemed the most interested and getting Dovewing to like Bumblestripe. This might be because she has very strong feelings for him, and she wants him to be happy, even if it’s with another she cat.(something Bumblestripe could learn himself) I also feel like Cherryfall kinda just came out of nowhere.

In conclusion: Don't be a BumbleStripe. *be a ThrushPelt*

''This Is Where We Get into The Bad Stuff''. Add Pops Up... Me: You're Right Akira

Akira: this is where it gets into the bad stuff KZfaq: * plays add for a Disney movie* Me:...

Cinderheart was pressuring Dovewing because she didn't get her chance for a mate with Lionblaze.(at least back then) She literally says, "If there are no obstacles in the way to get to know a cat, you should take the opportunity." (Signifying the 'obstacles' between her and Lionblaze) I don't think Bumblestripe told her to do this. But I do agree with a lot of what you're saying, even if Dovewing isn't my favorite character, I was so mad when everyone was forcing her to like Bumblestripe! Dovewing can make her own choices ! (Even tho her choice is Tigerheart......) I don't think he has a ...."twisted plan" like you keep saying...I think he has a strong crush, just like Graystripe and Silverstream. (His father) Firestar and Spottedleaf, Thrushpelt and Bluestar. He didn't have a sick twisted plan...but he did make some awkward choices and could've definitely been more self aware of Dovewing's feelings. Two or so tries is enough. But when Dovewing started showing interest and they were mates, he thought she loved him, and when she didn't anymore, he got confused, that's why he asked her about kits. He needed to confirm how she felt, he thought he had won her over. I agree, at the beginning he totally couldn't been more self-aware, but Dovewing did start giving him mixed signals. There was peer pressure, wrong timing, awkward unself awareness, and mixed signals, so this wasn't all Bumblestripe's fault, more just wrong timing and Bumblestripe being a bit blunt and Dovewing mixing up signals towards the end, confusing things more.thats my opinion anyway 😁

Noooooooooooo! Not Purdy! I love Purdy, I think he’s funny.

Bumblestripe liking Dovewing is pretty much Thrushpelt liking Bluefur. Thrushpelt never verbalized his feelings, but a handful of other warriors could still see he liked her. Unaware Bluefur was with Oakheart, the clan tried to push them together. 1/14/2021: Hi, yes, I compared the two. At the time of this comment VoS was being released, and I had only actually read the fourth apprentice. What I *meant* was that the situation is the same. Thrush and Bumble are nothing alike in terms of how they handled the situation, I get that. I'm sure this is just going to cause more confusion but, think of it this way, from the perspective of the character (in this case Bluefur or Dovewing) they're put into uncomfortable situations where their clan sees another cat likes them (Thrushpelt or Bumblestripe) and tries to push them together. The way the four cats handle their situations are nothing alike after that. The main reason I compared the two is because with Leafpool/Crowfeather, Leafpool was encouraged to stop seeing Crowfeather by Cinderpelt. In Graystripe/Silverstream, Graystripe is encouraged to stop seeing Silverstream by Fireheart. I'm sure all of these relationships go much deeper than what I've seen considering I haven't read any of the super editions involving these cats (excluding Bluestar's and Tiger[heart]star's, but it's been years since I read either) so👍 Moral of the story: Thrushpelt and Bumblestripe are nothing alike as individuals, they were just put into similar situations.

this is why Dovewing is my favorite of the three. she gets constantly pushed aside (in my opinion) she was abused in ThunderClan, not just by Bumblestripe, but by her other clanmates as well. She never found peace until she moved to ShadowClan with Tigerheart(star). My heart broke for her and I'm happy to see that someone else is acknowledging that Bumblestripe is not the hero of the story.

Look what I found on the warriors wiki page: "I get it, okay? You don't like me the same way I like you. I'll get over it. I'm just disappointed you weren't the cat I thought you were." Bumblestripe to Dovewing

How ironic is it that one of the Erin's stated that "Bumblestripe love Dovewing for Dovewing, and Tigerheart just sees her as a possession" but then again, this isn't the first time one of the Erin's has said something controversial and contradictory towards the books or the other Erin's ideas

At least bumblestripe will probably have some redemption for his wrong let's hope he learns from his mistakes and fixes things with dovewing so they can be civil

*"Nice guy" exposed*

'He took his crush way too far.' That got me thinking... Will he be the next Ashfur to burn his ex crushes kits.

Bumblestripe: the death of purdy has made me realize life is short... 500 year old purdy’s ghost: mmmHMMMM.

These characters are meant to represent humans. Just like humans these characters aren't just black or white(lol BumbleStripe is) they have conflicting emotions and aren't just pure evil or the greatest cat ever. They make the wrong decisions sometimes and their opinions can be questioned. I feel like this concept applies greatly to BumbleStripe, especially in the way people see him in the Fandom. For me he's somewhere in the middle, and I think more people should consider this.

Blossomfall's design is so beautiful I can't even, but I loved the video

I wonder if Graystripe and/or Millie would've helped.Since Bumblestripe is his son and Dovewing is Firestar's kin it would make Graystripe related to his best friends

bumblestripe: literally harasses her and criticizes her over everything also bumblestripe: “poor me I’m the victim because dovewing doesn’t like me back 😔”

Bumblestripe is so focused with Dovewing that he cant develop any connection with someone else #RIP

"This is where we get into the bad stuff" *KZfaq plays Lowe's ad* Me: *looks at Lowe's suspiciously* HMMMM

*SNIFF* so sad Alexa play Despacito 2 :c

Bumblestripe is a sad warrior cuz he got friendzoned

When I was in college, I had a friend who was pretty nice. We were talking one day and he asked me if I was dating anyone. I said no and awkwardly explained I wanted to focus on my classes. He smiled and told me I could do both. I wasn’t going to be anything but his friend, and I was pretty annoyed he’d said that. I hate it when people pressure you to go out with them. For me, it makes their friendship status and potential attractiveness go right to zero. Then things got freaky and awkward. He started following me because I had a lot of frequent hangouts and once waited outside of the building where one of my other friends worked. I’d told my mom by that point what was happening and she explained so her co workers would know. My friend’s boss went out and told him to go away or she’d call campus security, and he did. I felt like it was all my fault. Everything was fine and no one got hurt but the damage was still done. I didn’t talk to him again after that, but sometimes I’d see him just because we went to the same college. But it was horrible. I couldn’t go to any of my favorite places on campus anymore because he’d always find me. I was really scared and paranoid for a while. It was horrible. One day I saw him in the cafeteria. We met eyes for a second and I gave him a really angry look. I left, and he didn’t follow me. The jerk dragged my friend into what he was doing. Nothing makes someone unappealing like behaving the way he did. I don’t know why people try it. I guess it’s a product of societal norms or some proto-human courting ritual, but whatever it is, it needs to stop. Whether it’s a male or female doing it. Sometimes I still get nervous whenever I have to be on campus and I avoid the spots I liked to be, and I really shouldn’t have had to. I don’t tell people they need to step off. I had to learn to do it the hard way.

What is happening here is actually super creepily similar to something that is happening to a friend of mine and my sisters. This guy was literally like, watching her during lunch, and keeps announcing love for her, and trying to pressure her. But fortunately, its not working on her, and the rest of the school does kind of have a problem with him too, so no one else is pressuring her.

I agree with ALL of this But let's be honest here Cherryfall or Bumblestripe will probably be killed off before their mates The Erins love doing that stuff

This is kinda random, but it’s about Bumblestripe, so oh well. Spoilers for Crowfeather’s Trail: Don’t read any further if you have not read Crowfeather’s Trial. Are any of the non-readers gone? Okay, good. When Crowfeather and his patrol of cats that left to found Nightcloud after she went missing, Ivypool and Bumblestripe were escorting them through ThunderClan territory. Did anyone else think that it felt like Ivypool and Bumblestripe were going all “good cop bad cop” on the WindClan cats. Bumblestripe being bad cop and Ivypool being good cop. Idk why I thought that. I just did. XD

Bumble: "I know your sad and all over over this cat dying..buuutt- how about we make some sweet love and you give me kits? That'll totally make everything better, right!" Everyone: ლ(ಠ╭╮ಠლ) "wtf man"

Hush hush hush, blush blush blush! yOu aRE nOw mY BiG fAT CRusH! -Bumblestripe to Dovewing in Bumblestripe's Broken Heart, page 666

when i was younger I hated Dovewing and was totally team Bumblestripe. Now, having been in the position where I didn't return someone's feelngs, I feel so bad for her! Especially in all the moments where someone pressured her to spend time with him. People don't realise that not returning someone's feelings can make you feel trapped and just as miserable as the person who likes you.

I was using captions, this is what it said Last hope= last toe GrassPelt= brass belt

5:30 “Bumblestripe’s desire for the dove” That is bootiful

I kinda like the idea that in forgotten warrior and last hope Dovewing convinced herself that that she loved Bumblestripe because she couldn't have Tigerheart

I thought Bumblestripe was doing better in the 5th book of Vision of Shadows when he was genuine happy to see Dovewing and not try to be mates with her again. He even genuinely meant the greeting. I thought he was getting better. I like Bumblestripe, he’s nice but he just let his heart take over instead of his head.

I don't really agree with any of this. Here are my reasons: 1. What if there was a small leak? There doesn't always have to be a big leak that affects lots of cats. 2. What if he just wanted to get to know Whitewing better, since he has a crush on Dovewing why not make friends with her mom as well? 3. Cinderheart recently discovered that Lionblaze is in the prophecy, and believes she can't have him. She doesn't want Dovewing to make the same mistake with someone who obviously loves her. 4. Blossomfall is being clingy. She doesn't want Bumblestripe, her only littermate (who isn't confined in the medicine den) to partner with someone else, especially since they're really close. She feels like he's choosing Dovewing over her when really he's just deciding to train with a different cat ONCE. Bumblestripe is choosing to train with Dovewing because he has a chance to build a bigger relationship with Dovewing. 5. Rosepetal feels bad for Bumblestripe. She knows he likes Dovewing and doesn't want him to get his feelings hurt, especially when he's been crushing on her for so long. 6. HE IS NOT BEING INSENSITIVE. He knows that, as he said, life is short. I believe that, even though this is an unsatisfactory time to confess, Bumblestripe is not doing anything wrong. All this video is: assuming the worst of Bumblestripe's actions. Sure, he may have done some of the things in the video, but that is unlikely. He is an innocent cat who just had a crush on Dovewing. *Not made to offend anyone. Just my genuine opinion.

"Okay, this is where we get into the bad stuff." *an ad plays* NNNNOOOOOO

‘This is where we get into the bad stuff,’ Ad: BRUSHING YOUR TEETH IS SO-

Dovewing to Bumblestripe: “If you were the light at the end of the tunnel, I would turn around.” Bumblestripe: “Your life must be so sad....” Dovewing: “Only because you’re in it.”

Bumblestripe is a complete "Nice Guy" and Dovewing really needed to tell every cat he manipulated into pressuring her that, yes, she was aware of his feelings but she didn't feel the same way. By not being (at least partially) open with her clan mates, he was able to control the narrative, to isolate her, and to wear her down, until desperation (among other things) forced her to break from everyone she grew up with and loved. But, of course, this is warrior cats and no one tells anyone anything. Tell people, kids. TBH, he probably won't become another Ashfur, but I wouldn't be surprised to find out that he's become another bitter Crowfeather.

8:00 at this point I think it's more of a Obsession than a "crush"

*Purdy dies* Dovewing: He was like a grandpa to me! Bumblestripe: Sad...anyway, I want some kits, you can name one Purdy Us: Ya blew it

"Love is a force that requires pull from both sides to be functional" - Bright Guardian Akira

Now I ship Bumblestripe and Cherryfall XD

Dovewing didn’t shoot Bumblestripe, Bumblestripe was holding the gun backwards

Watching some old videos of yours and - I just wanna say, it's NOT selfish to not be able to be "just friends" with someone you love. It's okay to step away from that situation and not attempt or accept a friendship and to cut them out of your lives so as not to feel hurt by them, just like it's not selfish for someone not to reciprocate your love. The two relationship dynamics both have their pros and cons but they're absolutely not the same, and some people just can't be friends with people they love or used to love. And that's fine too.

This begs the question: Why can’t the Erin’s just make another Thrushpelt?

I feel sad for Dovewing because more than 3 people in her clan pressured her into a relationship she didnt want

Aw, I wish I could finish the video, but I haven't read The Raging Storm yet.

Omg- a KZfaq premium ad popped up when he said let’s get into the bad stuff-

“... is Bumblestripe becoming the next Ashfur.” Me: *Looks at The Broken Code* Yeah, I really hope not otherwise Bumble is gonna take over Tigerstars (Tigerheart, if anyone is confused) body and destroy ShadowClan XD

(avos/tigerheart's shadow spoilers at the very end) The kit talk during Purdy's vigil was like, the nail in the coffin for me on Bumblestripe tbh. I'm willing to believe that the Erins (aka the publishers) just think a clingy puppydog boyfriend character was innocent/relatable/cute, and that they didn't intend to make Bumble so pushy. I'm also willing to believe that the clan felt sorry for Bumble, as he didn't have Blossomfall or really Briarlight anymore, and the only cat he WANTED to hang out with was Dovewing - who also never seemed to be hanging around anyone else (remember: the stuff she did with lion and jay was usually in secret, and meeting Tigerheart DEFINITELY was) - so they felt like they were pushing two lonely souls together. I always read it as just misguided well-meaning friends and family. But, using Purdy's vigil was literally disgusting?? Like, that's just creepy levels of being blinded by love. I also don't blame Dovewing for being confused after all the Dark Forest stuff was revealed; things were rocky. How did she know if they were ever going to forgive the Dark Forest cats? Would Tigerheart even be able to stay in the Clans? Could she be a rogue with him? And on TOP of that, she was dealing with basically losing 99% of her senses all at once. And everyone around her was always touting Bumblestripe, and being hostile towards the dark forest cats at that point. She couldn't see Tigerheart. She couldn't tell how he was feeling. She couldn't talk things out with him, really. The clans were rebuilding - she was devastated. Open to manipulation. She just wanted friend to lean on - Lionblaze had Cinderheart, Jayfeather had medicine cat duties, and Ivypool was hostile about Dovewing's choices and pretty much every thought her sister had. Even her father and mother had their own problems going on. Bumblestripe was the only cat paying attention to her and being kind to her in a time when she needed it more than ever - everyone else was just ignoring her or being nasty to her for not wanting to immediately have 100 bumblestripe clones. I never saw her as treating him as a mate, ever. Just looking for affection from the only friend she had left in her entire clan. We also see friends (yes, even toms and she-cats!) being close all the time. Mousefur and Longtail, and Mousefur and Purdy are good examples of this. Briarlight and Jayfeather. But they weren't _mates_. No one is out there saying Mousefur was leading Purdy on, or any other combination of she cats who acted pretty much the same towards their tom friends. i don't understand the dovewing hate. i lovewing dovewing. but i also didn't outright dislike bumblestripe until purdy's vigil then i just wanted to yeet him out of existence. Still, with Dovewing out of Thunderclan now, I think Bumblestripe has the opportunity to become a better character. Some people LIKE being doted on 100% all the time by their partners, and since like 99% of Thunderclan has no personality right now I can totally see the Erins writing one of the she-cats to be all moony over him too and making it a mutually doting - not creepy harassment - type relationship.

**Walks up to bumblestripe** Bumblestripe: Hi maki! **Blasts F-R-I-E-N-D-S in his face**

Tbh,I never really understood why Dovewing went with Tigerstar,but now since I watched this,it gave me a new perspective.Bumblestripe might have loved Dovewing,but his situation is pretty much like Ashfurs.Trying to get opportunities with the cats they love,and in the process,slowly destroying the relationship with the eh cats they loved

Ik this comment is soon late but I just wanted to say the user-generated captions on this video made 'DoveWing'... 'Dev Wayne'... 'Death Wing'... 'Doubling'... and 'Dumbo Strike'. Yes. *Dumbo Strike.*

This is where it gets into the bad stuff KZfaq: Plays PUBG ad Me: I agree

When he said "get to the bad stuff", an ad of a bunch of memes came up

I think you’re stretching things a bit, and making a lot of assumptions. Bumblestripe wasn’t completely right, but cmon.

When Dovewing and Tigerheart started meeting each other, it was, honestly, the first time I was ever invested in any cross clan relationship. I dislike all the others, but this one is just so good, so healthy and the first time the writers attempted to flesh out a relationship like this. I did feel sorry for Bumblestripe though. But Dovewing owes him nothing. But she could have tried harder not to lead him on.

When you love bumblestripe and dovewing.

When Cinderheart appeared out of no where to pressure Dovewing, i thought it was because she couldnt get the chance to be with Lionblaze, and Cinderheart saw the chance that Dovewing was throwing away, and wanted to try to get her to give it a chance, cz she might losw that chance like Cinderheart did with Lionblaze.

2:43 what’s tiger heart looking at there?.....

"Okay, this is where we get into the bad stuff." *Gets an ad*

2:54 If you turn on captions, when Akira says Bumblestripe it comes out as Dumbo strike XDXDXD

I just feel really bad for him he deserves to be loved hes kind, honest and supporting tbh I personally think he is a very good character. But I except your opinion

I don't think Bumblestripe asked people to pressure Dovewing. I think people just wanted her to get a mate.

I love your editing man! you deserve more recognition!

So many people use Thrushpelt and Bluestar as a point when trying to convince others that Bumblestripe isn't bad, but they're wrong. If I recall correctly, it was only Bluestar's Clanmates pressuring and guilt-tripping her, not Thrushpelt, however, with Dovewing and Bumblestripe, Bumblestripe himself is pressuring and guilt-tripping Dovewing as well. Him and Ashfur really need to take a class from Thrushpelt.

The captions: DUMBO STRIKE

Bumblestripe should’ve called Dovewing “lovey dovey

He lost his sisters because I want to spend as much time with him and he didn’t trust him as much so he converted to the one he loved

What's funny is the fact that the next video that I'm recommended is Moonkitti's Bumblestripe video where he is telling Dovewing that he is her only option. XD

I think that before BumbleStripe dies, he needs to find a mate. I don’t even care if he has kits he just needs to have love. He needs to learn to treat his girlfriends better. I’m one of those people who loves DoveWing but doesn’t hate BumbleStripe

As soon as he said "This is where we get into the bad stuff." an ad popped up. Why does KZfaq hate me

I never really liked dovewing, but hated her? No. Just meh. Am I the only person who dislikes them both (Dovewing/bumblestripe)?

I love these videos!! Keep being awesome!!! ❤️

All of thunderclan try to ship em. This situation of Dovewing and bumblestripe kinda reminds me of the relationship between Bluefur and Thrushpelt

Dovewing got lucky she didn't have to experience what happened with Squirrelflight....

Not saying that I'm a Bumblestripe fan (I honestly dislike both Bumblestripe and Dovewing), but if they could have just sat down and had a serious conversation about their feelings, complete with apologies, whether it ended in a relationship, friendzone, or Bumblestripe pulling a Thrushpelt and being a supportive ex, that would have made me a lot more satisfied. I mean, think about it. Bumblestripe has no idea that Dovewing was meeting with Tigerheart, so he thought she liked him back.

`` Dude, she's just not... Into you~ ``

It’s been years since I had read that series so before having these reminders of their interactions, I thought it was just a silly crush. But I didn’t realize he was like that, touchy, clingy, etc. I do sympathize with him a bit considering the whole siblings situation where he was left alone and his only friend left was dovewing. But he took it too far for sure, he should’ve just cooled down a bit and accept whatever dovewings feelings are.

Exactly, I agree with all your points moonkitti's jokes about there relationship is actually quite factual to Aka "just because I'm not related to you doesn't mean I want to be your mate"

I hope Bumblestripe doesn't become Ashfur. Their is too many Thunderclan cats turning evil because someone they love rejected him/her because they didn't had same feeling. It's really stupid in my opinion and many a lot in real life.

Something weird just happened. I didn't even look this whole video and I hated Dove and Bumble ship. But actually I don't ship her with Tiger either. It think that Dove would have found a third cat and of course from her own clan. I ship kinda Tiger with Ivy, but still hate Tigerheart.

Bumblestripe could use thrushpelt as an example he respected bluefur never loved him but he was still always there for her. Also I know I’m really late to writing this 😅

He. Might turn into ashfur

"Okay, and this is where we get into the bad stuff-" *Ad starts playing* Me: "Oh, c'mon!"

6:50 cinderheart told her to go because she saw that bumblestripe liked her and with all of her ongoing troubles with lionblaze, cinderheart thought as she said, if there are no obstacles then you should go for it. I don't think bumblestripe asked her to help out As for the others, Whitewing likely just noticed it and mentioned it because that's usually how things go regarding relationships in thunderclan. There's never that much complication. I don't think he ever really harassed her, but I do think that he did make some hasty or generally bad decisions regarding dovewing.

I completely disagree with (most) of your points... What you say about Bumblestripe manipulating circumstances and borderline harassing Dovewing has virtually no solid basis. Harassment is defined as ‘aggressive pressure or intimidation’, and bumblestripe does not even approach this standard. He simply wants to spend time with the she-cat of his dreams. Frankly, I cannot see how you are making this out to be such a horrific crime, calling it “disgusting” and “harassment”. I believe that Tigerheart is worse. He gains Dovewing’s affection by manipulating and endorsing her confusion about clan boundaries after the journey. Tigerheart is a warrior, while Dovepaw(wing) is barely an apprentice. This manipulation of a naive apprentice (in my opinion) almost approaches the level of the Thistleclaw/Spottedpaw situation. That is to say, Tigerheart endorses Dovepaw’s attachment to the cats she journeyed with, and uses this to get her to meet him in secret. Though Tigerheart had less evil intentions, the situation is hauntingly similar. Anywho, sorry for the novel. I will conclude to say I believe you are heavily exaggerating the negative qualities of Bumblestripe, as in reality, he has not done anything truly wrong. :)

I genuinely like Bumblestripe, he was kind but he defiantly did do some horrible things to Dovewing. Dovewing was just too whiny to tell him off genuinely, instead ignoring him thinking that would get her somewhere.

I hope that in Veil of Shadows, Squirrelflight tells Dovewing about Bumblestripe's little spying escapade.

It’s not Bumblestripe’s fault, he couldn’t have possibly known she was betraying her clan to see someone, and no one else had ever seemed to take interest in her inside the clan, she didn’t like anyone else from what he thought. And Dovewing leading him on didn’t help as she didn’t say she wasn’t interested just couldn’t think about it. If you ask me, Dovewing was way worse but not as bad as Tigerheart.

~o o f~

early squad where u at?

The sad truth about Bumblestripe is that he is, in fact, Bumblestripe.

wai wha- WHY AM I NOT SEEING THOSE BONUS SCENES!?!? THAT IS SOO UNFAIR