The Sad Truth Behind The Lion Sleeps Tonight

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DefinitelyOwen

DefinitelyOwen

7 жыл бұрын

There is an interesting story behind the origins of one of the most successful pop songs ever: The Lion Sleeps Tonight. It's a journey that spans multiple continents, several decades, and millions of dollars.
The Lion Sleeps Tonight" is a song originally written and recorded by Solomon Linda in South Africa in 1939. The song was originally entitle "Mbube". Solomon Linda's original version was written in Zulu. In the 1950s and 60s, Mbube was adapted, covered, and restyled by many international pop and folk revival artists - most famously by the Tokens who went on to make millions as it became one of the most successful pop songs of all time. The song has been featured in a number of films and tv shows including Disney's The Lion King and the sitcom Friends. Plus, this story has been turned into a Netflix documentary called ReMastered: The Lion's Share.
#TheLionSleepsTonight
Transcript (highlights):
December 18th 1961, The Tokens earn a No.1 hit with The Lion Sleeps Tonight. The song that topped the Billboard pop chart on December 18, 1961, was an instant classic that went on to become one of the most successful pop songs of all time, yet its true originator saw only a tiny fraction of the song’s enormous profits. If you don’t want your feelings on this song to be tainted by the depressing truth of the origins of this song, please skip to this part of the video now. For those of you that do, here it comes.
The story begins in Johannesburg, South Africa,1938. A group of Zulu singers called Solomon Linda and the Evening Birds stepped into the first recording studio ever set up in sub-Saharan Africa and recorded a song called “Mbube”- which is Zulu for “the lion.” and it sounded like this. play song. Sound a bit familiar…yeah. “Mbube” was a regional hit, and it helped make Solomon Linda into a South African star. And the story might have ended there had a copy of the record not made its way to New York City in the early 1950s, where it was saved from the slush pile at Decca Records by the legendary folklorist Alan Lomax.
Without actually hearing any of the records in a box sent from Africa, Lomax thought his friend, Pete Seeger a famous folksinger at the time. Unable to understand the lyrics of “Mbube,” Seeger transcribed the central chant as “Wimoweh,” and that became the name of the song as recorded by the Weavers and released in early 1952, and it sounded like this play song However, this was just as the group was about to be blacklisted thanks to the McCarthy hearings. Eventually, Jay Siegel, the teenage lead singer of the Tokens, would hear and fall in love with “Wimoweh” through the Kingston Trio’s cover version of the Weavers’ song.
The Tokens’ label commissioned English-language lyrics for the song, which was re-titled “The Lion Sleeps Tonight” and went on to become not just a #1 song on this day in 1961, and it sounded like the play song but one of the most-covered, most successful pop songs of all time. In 2000, South African journalist Rian Malan followed the music and the money associated with “The Lion Sleeps Tonight,” exposing the series of business arrangements that ended up making millions for a handful of prominent U.S. music publishers while yielding only a $1,000 check from Pete Seeger to Solomon Linda during Linda’s lifetime. Because Solomon's composition was treated as public-domain “folk” material by Seeger and by the subsequent writer of the English-language lyrics in the Tokens’ version, Linda never participated in the royalty stream generated by either “Wimoweh” or “The Lion Sleeps Tonight.”
And prior to reaching an undisclosed settlement in 2006, his heirs received only a tiny fraction of the millions of dollars they might have been due had Linda retained his songwriting credit on what Malan rightly calls “The most famous melody ever to emerge from Africa.” Yeah, pretty disheartening isn't it? anyway, I’ve got to do a welcome back for the people who skipped it. Welcome back, hope you continue to enjoy the song with out the emotional burden the rest of us will carry round every time we hear it.

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@DefinitelyOwen
@DefinitelyOwen 3 жыл бұрын
I apologise for my mispronunciation of the word 'mbube'. I should have taken the time to research the word and gotten the pronunciation right.
@scottmiller8493
@scottmiller8493 3 жыл бұрын
No worries! It's not that big of a deal really. Only the insecure will care.
@Qrayon
@Qrayon 3 жыл бұрын
You should have, but I accept your apology.
@raghulpn5729
@raghulpn5729 3 жыл бұрын
No worries... It doesn't matter unless you tell us no lie about the history.. Nice video, never thought of this dark history... Although this low pay check thing sounds a bit depressing at first, it actually is pretty common, this is business, right?!
@hlomladandala9824
@hlomladandala9824 3 жыл бұрын
It would sound like this this “M’boo-bay”
@acatlover138
@acatlover138 3 жыл бұрын
Nope, unacceptable! You r permanently shunned from society. Mispronunciation-ers will pay the penalty🤣 jk
@stuartmcgill0485
@stuartmcgill0485 3 жыл бұрын
The MBUBE original was played in the movie Coming To America too.
@BEElaine1008
@BEElaine1008 3 жыл бұрын
😮
@cmclem1959
@cmclem1959 3 жыл бұрын
And the family probably wasn't paid for that either
@bos3835
@bos3835 3 жыл бұрын
Ace Ventura also!
@theguy8665
@theguy8665 3 жыл бұрын
Exactly!!👌
@ThirtyThreeHipHop
@ThirtyThreeHipHop 3 жыл бұрын
Your right. Obviously for a reason too. Reparations dude! Eddie Murphy is that dad!
@Funktastic_Ed
@Funktastic_Ed 4 жыл бұрын
M Bube was the war name of king Shaka Zulu , the song pretend that he is not dead but only sleeping waiting for awakening.
@rogerc.roberts4705
@rogerc.roberts4705 4 жыл бұрын
Had not heard that story before. Makes sense.
@CHARIOTEERDC
@CHARIOTEERDC 3 жыл бұрын
WOW! Thanks for that!
@diggiman01
@diggiman01 3 жыл бұрын
Superb👊🏽‼️
@NikkiJayArtistry
@NikkiJayArtistry 3 жыл бұрын
Wow
@caribbeankpoplover
@caribbeankpoplover 3 жыл бұрын
Oh wow!
@vivecamotsieloa4634
@vivecamotsieloa4634 4 ай бұрын
My grandfather brought Linda to the Gallo studio arranged the piece and my grandmother played the piano. May they all rest knowing the truth is out!❤
@pamb.1516
@pamb.1516 2 жыл бұрын
In the early 50s, my father had the '78 of Wimoweh and played it often, so I feel like I grew up with The Lion Sleeps Tonight. When I told my friends in the 60s that it wasn't a "new" song, they all thought I was crazy. But I knew I wasn't! Thanks for this video on the history of the song!
@scootermom1791
@scootermom1791 Жыл бұрын
For young people who don't know what you meant by "a '78," it was a 10 inch record that played at 78 RPM. Oh, and a "record" was something that played music before cassette tapes and CD'S and MP3 players. Ha ha ha! I couldn't resist the last part.😀
@hammond1994
@hammond1994 11 ай бұрын
I remember a radio show in the 1970s that explored the history of this song.
@janetr7022
@janetr7022 11 ай бұрын
@@scootermom1791 Also, remember 8-track tapes?
@scootermom1791
@scootermom1791 11 ай бұрын
@@janetr7022 Sure do!
@a3a14613
@a3a14613 4 жыл бұрын
So many stories like that in the music industry. 😢
@JFairweather
@JFairweather 4 жыл бұрын
Not true in this case. Solomon Linda sold the rights to the song, It was not stolen.
@a3a14613
@a3a14613 4 жыл бұрын
@Sebastian GuevaraWrong. www.npr.org/templates/story/story.php?storyId=5300359
@serf664
@serf664 4 жыл бұрын
@@a3a14613 thank you for sharing the link. It is very comforting to know that the daughters were paid in the end.
@karenp1687
@karenp1687 3 жыл бұрын
@Sebastian Guevara Well, there are a few "just a song"'s out there that could make you never have to work again!
@shady7029
@shady7029 3 жыл бұрын
@@JFairweather Yeah..really?!! White Colonialist created a oppressive, murderous, racist system which by law forced Black South Africans labour and talent to be used freely or to be bought for cheap. This activity to reprobate White Westerners is called "Fair Trade".
@leerenae313
@leerenae313 3 жыл бұрын
Hey from South Africa here... It's pronounced *Mmm-booo-beh* lol thanks for covering this
@susiemuirhead561
@susiemuirhead561 3 жыл бұрын
I love South African music!
@byhkhla7623
@byhkhla7623 3 жыл бұрын
And what does it mean? I am curious.
@leerenae313
@leerenae313 3 жыл бұрын
@@byhkhla7623 lol it means Lion
@byhkhla7623
@byhkhla7623 3 жыл бұрын
@@leerenae313 Thanx...google translate did not give me a word. The original song is far more melodious and deep. I love South African music.
@leerenae313
@leerenae313 3 жыл бұрын
@@byhkhla7623 haha yeah google isn't very reliable at times😂 I agree with you 💯
@finncarlbomholtsrensen1188
@finncarlbomholtsrensen1188 2 жыл бұрын
A very popular Danish singer, Flemming "Bamse" Joergensen, who became very popular with his version of this song, found out that the composer hadn't been paid, so he actually sent him the profit from his version in Danish.
@quintessawolfprincess3618
@quintessawolfprincess3618 2 жыл бұрын
As much as I love this song {though I was terrified of it as a kid}, I feel sorry for Solomon Linda and his family, since they continued to be poor even after the song became popular. His wife couldn't even afford a grave for him when he passed! I'll still continue to listen to it and other versions of it to show my support for him.
@markjapan4062
@markjapan4062 Жыл бұрын
AFRICA DONT HAVE WOLVES .WOLF AND WOLFE IS CHEROKEE.
@ichwilldaslebenausihmficke4632
@ichwilldaslebenausihmficke4632 Жыл бұрын
Why did it terrify you?
@jess-do7sn
@jess-do7sn Жыл бұрын
My siblings were also scared of it
@KindlTAS
@KindlTAS 8 ай бұрын
@@ichwilldaslebenausihmficke4632 I'm gonna guess it was the Doctor Who episode "Rise of the Cybermen."
@tonyhibbert2342
@tonyhibbert2342 3 жыл бұрын
this story just proves how wrong copyright really is !
@MontiRock
@MontiRock 3 жыл бұрын
no. it was the racist way it was treated. Copyright was fine.
@tonyhibbert2342
@tonyhibbert2342 3 жыл бұрын
@@MontiRock Copyright destroys the right of others to create new things ! ,,,,
@MontiRock
@MontiRock 3 жыл бұрын
@@tonyhibbert2342 False. The law itself prevents people from ripping off people. it's the way racist white people screwed him over. That had nothing to do with copyright laws
@yaminanatsaret
@yaminanatsaret 3 жыл бұрын
@@tonyhibbert2342 how? that’s the point of copyright so something someone has already done can’t be copied. If it’s copyrighted then it’s not original...nor new. But we all who are aware knows the history of how ideas were STOLEN from those who could not copyright. That there is wrong.
@tonyhibbert2342
@tonyhibbert2342 3 жыл бұрын
@@yaminanatsaret Any song writer will tell you that almost every single girls name has been copyrighted ! Therefore if i or you write a song about the love you have for your wife and call it i love < insert her name here > and the song goes viral becoming an instant worldwide hit ... YOU will have to pay copyright fees to the turd that makes a living simply by writting copyyright over any names not already covered ,,,, Many city names etc are also covered ! This is what is wrong ! ... copyright on a book , song etc that someone has worked hard on is right ! but the laws as current , are wrong ! ...As is the time things can be copyright ! ...
@jozellajock6285
@jozellajock6285 3 жыл бұрын
The first time I heard the song , all the melodies and humming screamed African style because we recognize our music
@cobrakaicyberdon
@cobrakaicyberdon 3 жыл бұрын
I think everyone can recognise it's African
@dianaa.1735
@dianaa.1735 3 жыл бұрын
Its such wonderful music, performed by and heard by EVERYONE of all colors, that I'd say THIS song has become everyone's music.
@emmanuelumoren5230
@emmanuelumoren5230 3 жыл бұрын
We will always recognise our own. Every single time!
@katizz988
@katizz988 3 жыл бұрын
Are you serious???😣How can you say, I'm assuming only black people can recognize African music? There's so many different sounds from Africa that sound like Indian, Mid. Eastern, Asian...etc🤔🤨
@eluaguwilliam
@eluaguwilliam 3 жыл бұрын
@@katizz988 Sis.... African music is recognizable by all, if their is no drum beat 5here are humming and whirling and rhythm in a very dramatic sequence whether it's a slow or fast music!
@theusher2893
@theusher2893 2 жыл бұрын
This happened a LOT through the 20s through the 60s. My dad was in a band in 1968 who had a hot local hit, and his manager forged his signature to get the money to the rights for national distribution, but my dad and his band never knew. It would've amounted to about 300k in todays dollars, and for a kid in 1968 it would've made his day. It could've paid for his mom's kidney surgery, help his sisters through college...but it was stolen from him. Unfortunately the manager died decades ago so nothing could have come of it through a modern lawsuit. On the upside the 5678s covered one of his songs back in 2009ish. They sent him a very sweet letter with a limited edition LP that they all signed. It's one of his most treasured possessions.
@vrinda5303
@vrinda5303 Жыл бұрын
What was the song that was a local hit for your dad?
@scootermom1791
@scootermom1791 Жыл бұрын
It still happens! Nick Kershaw's song, "Wouldn't it be Good?" was stolen from him by the producers of "Pretty in Pink" in the 80's. They never asked him if they could use it; never asked if they could have another group sing it; never compensated him for it; nothing! I'm sure there are tons of similar stories. I don't understand why they even bother with copyright laws if they never enforce them!!
@scootermom1791
@scootermom1791 Жыл бұрын
@theusher are you referring to "Great Balls of Fire," or "Hanky Panky?" Those were covered by the 5678s in 2011. They went from 2004 to 2011 without any covers. What was the name of your dad's band?
@swatkins9391
@swatkins9391 2 жыл бұрын
"In the 1950s, after Linda's authorship was made clear, Seeger sent Linda $1000. Seeger also said he instructed TRO/Folkways to henceforth pay his share of authors' earnings to Linda. The folksinger apparently trusted his publisher's word of honor and either saw no need, or was unable to make sure these instructions were carried out". -Wikipedia
@alcyone9361
@alcyone9361 2 жыл бұрын
Shhhhhhhhh. You'll upset the snowflake whiners.
@curtisthomas2670
@curtisthomas2670 3 жыл бұрын
It was decided in court that Solomon's daughters were entitled to millions in royalties
@kboop11
@kboop11 3 жыл бұрын
Good
@MarkJones
@MarkJones 3 жыл бұрын
I'm not so sure it was decided based on this: www.npr.org/templates/story/story.php?storyId=5300359
@johnhendricks8140
@johnhendricks8140 3 жыл бұрын
I hope so.
@destaylor8083
@destaylor8083 3 жыл бұрын
If they can't control it there'll copy it 😈
@DrLove911
@DrLove911 3 жыл бұрын
😁👍🏆🏆🏆. I hope so 😁👍
@LiwaySaGu
@LiwaySaGu 3 жыл бұрын
i'm asian but whenever i hear that lion song it gives me an impression of as being black music. i was surprised to know caucasians popularized (and so i thought wrote) it, but now it makes sense knowing it really is black music
@timothysmith4260
@timothysmith4260 3 жыл бұрын
Most of it is "Black" music. Billions have been earned off of the intellectual property of Black people.
@madandy3176
@madandy3176 3 жыл бұрын
@@timothysmith4260 There is no "intellectual property" of black people. Music is music and is the intellectual property of the individual who created it. If you want to keep it your "intellectual property" then don't share or publish it and go all the way and promote separatism and condemn Eminem and Jimi Hendrix as exploiters of other races quote intellectual property unquote.
@timothysmith4260
@timothysmith4260 3 жыл бұрын
@@madandy3176 that's the stupidest thing said ever. There is a sound that is developed by a people and it would be obvious who it came from. We may not collectively reap the monetary benefits of said property, but it does prove worth of a race. That's like saying Chinese music doesn't show that Chinese people have the mental and productive capacity worthy of it's place in the world. People steal from us and make those sorts of statements. I'm all for separatism. I'll leave just as soon as you cut that check. I'm curious as to what you mean with jimi Hendrix.. Are you saying that he stole from white people, because blacks created Rock, or are you saying that since he was part white, he helped exploit a black creation?
@madandy3176
@madandy3176 3 жыл бұрын
@@timothysmith4260 If you start your comment with "That's the stupidest thing said ever" then respond to the point then your response is based upon and contrived by prejudice rather than intellect. Your original comment was "Most of it is "Black" music. Billions have been earned off of the intellectual property of Black people." Ok, I get where you were coming from but under pressure you now say " We may not collectively reap the monetary benefits of said property, but it does prove worth of a race" and now it changes from "black" to "race" when of course a race can combine a number or colours and a colour, like black can apply to a diversity of races thus confirming that the concept of "intellectual property" which can be applied as much to those of the same colour or race (as proven by numerous copyright disputes) is being, um, culturally appropriated by yourself to fit in with a predetermined (by yourself) socio-political agenda. You say "That's like saying Chinese music doesn't show that Chinese people have the mental and productive capacity worthy of it's place in the world. People steal from us and make those sorts of statements." Now that is one of the stupidest things to say. If there are people who are affectively saying Chinese music is total crap then they are hardly going to steal it! You say "I'm all for separatism. I'll leave just as soon as you cut that check." So what? You identify as Chinese yet use the name Timothy Smith AND have a thing about "intellectual property" based upon race. Are you for real? "I'm curious as to what you mean with Jimi Hendrix. Are you saying that he stole from white people, because blacks created Rock, or are you saying that since he was part white, he helped exploit a black creation?" You need to work that out for yourself because your question is based upon the assumption that I acknowledge the concept of "intellectual property" when the basis of our dispute is that you recognise it and I don't which in turn puts that question under the "stupidest thing category.. The clue is that I included Eminem in the same commentary.
@timothysmith4260
@timothysmith4260 3 жыл бұрын
@@madandy3176 you just said a whole lot of nothing. When I say the term BLACK, everyone knows who I mean, except you, huh? Black isn't a race, but since that term was made up by people who had the power to enforce labels, we'll use that. Good thing that you are not the judge of what belongs to whom, because your ideology is that of usual Devil tactics. Folks will ask, "What did Black people do or produce that make them worthy to breathe air?" When we break out the list, then they wanna say that that's for everyone and we are racist. Eminem is an good rapper. It doesn't stop him from being in an art form started and made popular by Black people. Descendants of slaves, since you want to act like which Black folks I'm talking about. Jimi Hendrix is Idumaen by race, but have enough Black in him to look and act Black. His approach with the guitar was like a black blues player. I'm certainly not Chinese, so now you're being a Devil. I know that you're not stupid. You are attempting to dissemble like Devils do. If I told you that classical music was EVERYBODY'S music without acknowledging White/European roots, that would make me a liar and an evil man. I'll talk to stupid, but I have no words with evil.
@elisestrydom1081
@elisestrydom1081 2 жыл бұрын
I am from South Africa. Thank you for this clarifying video of the history of this song. The South African band Ladysmith Black Mambazo also does a beautiful version of this song.The tribal singing of all the tribes here in South Africa is quite amazing. You should go to an ordinary church meeting on Sundays and will truly be moved by the amazing voices of even ordinary church goers.
@tanyahoman8695
@tanyahoman8695 Жыл бұрын
It amazes me how their singing always sounds like an angel choir. Most of them don't have any musical instruments or back tracks but they sing beautifully! In unison. And nobody ever seems to be of tune.
@TheRoyalBavarian
@TheRoyalBavarian Жыл бұрын
I would love to.
@scootermom1791
@scootermom1791 Жыл бұрын
Do the original lyrics mean "The Lion Sleeps Tonight," as depicted in the Americanized version? Or were those lyrics made up?
@sibusisow.buthelezi5130
@sibusisow.buthelezi5130 9 ай бұрын
​@@scootermom1791No. It only means "King , you're the king, you're the king", or "Lion, you're the lion, you're the lion" Mbube, uyimbube, uyimbube
@scootermom1791
@scootermom1791 9 ай бұрын
@@sibusisow.buthelezi5130 That's really interesting! Thank you!
@coolbreeze5683
@coolbreeze5683 Жыл бұрын
Mbube was also used in the movie Coming to America with Eddie Murphy. That's how I first heard of it as a kid. Both of my parents are African and I grew up hearing songs in the same tonal scale. I've always known The Lion Sleeps Tonight as an African song.
@ViginiaMolai
@ViginiaMolai Жыл бұрын
Even the rhythm you can tell it's black people singing
@olivierplm5023
@olivierplm5023 Жыл бұрын
It's Ladysmith black mambazo's version. Great one !!
@tinalouise5475
@tinalouise5475 3 жыл бұрын
Anyone remember this from "Coming to America"
@fedoramcclaren4294
@fedoramcclaren4294 3 жыл бұрын
I was just about to type that!!! I was about to sing along!!!
@jenniferwiilis5267
@jenniferwiilis5267 3 жыл бұрын
Yes the used the original song but did the family get royalties from that🤔
@mbyrd6713
@mbyrd6713 3 жыл бұрын
@Babadook I’m from America and I agree with you. However, compared to the commercials and information we see about Africa, the movie “Coming to America” is actually an improvement 🤦🏽‍♀️
@Tanix25
@Tanix25 3 жыл бұрын
@Babadook It was supposed to be funny and back in those days there was no political correct movement. I get it could be offensive now. But back then it was impressive that Eddie Murphy could pull off a movie that was mainstream as well as successful with mostly all black actors that was not a gangsta or hood type movie.
@tomorrowhowever7488
@tomorrowhowever7488 3 жыл бұрын
@Babadook That movie was strictly comedy. I'd like to believe that NO ONE thought that it was a representation of any African country! However, I do realize that idiots exist. Love from California!
@Shardonnae
@Shardonnae 3 жыл бұрын
Wow, thank you for taking the time to resarch and shining light on that song (Giving credit wher credit is due).
@AliciaGuitar
@AliciaGuitar 2 жыл бұрын
We studied this in Music History in college. I went to the country's leading music and recording arts school in the USA, so that is encouraging. The word is getting out.
@feraynor205
@feraynor205 2 жыл бұрын
Unfortunately this is not the only stolen property.Thank you for your great coverage on this one.
@nqobilemarlene7790
@nqobilemarlene7790 3 жыл бұрын
Indeed this is a Zulu original. It was created as part of King Shaka's praises as warrior and king. Imbube: i(N) Zulu prefix ; imbube its a synonym of a lion. Deep symbolism. Uyimbube meaning 'you are a lion'. King of the jungle. This song stems from deep metaphor and symbolism.
@vetb882
@vetb882 3 жыл бұрын
See my comment above
@SBCBears
@SBCBears 3 жыл бұрын
So, in the public domain and no copyright possible.
@scottmiller8493
@scottmiller8493 3 жыл бұрын
@@vetb882 Your comment is gone?!
@heatherjones6647
@heatherjones6647 3 жыл бұрын
@@SBCBears Can't have public domain without the concept of private intellectual property. Neither of these ideas originated with the Zulu. Therefore, they can't be imposed on Zulu cultural product by foreign entities. The US legal system is valid only in the US. Nevertheless, once Solomon and band recorded their version, it entered via western technology into the general western legal idea of property. The Americans didn't hear it sung out in the bush while on safari; they heard it as a recording by a particular set of artists who sang a song. The fact that it dates back to the 19th century and had circulated widely in the Zulu zeitgeist is irrelevant to the case. The Americans stole a specific artistic work and all proceeds should be handed over to the creators' descendents in perpetuity along with a groveling apology.
@JRT5573
@JRT5573 3 жыл бұрын
@@heatherjones6647 There was a settlement reached (2006?) which gave Solomon Linda's descendent 1.6 million dollars and succeeding royalties. "Mbube" was copyrighted in South Africa by Gallo Records who recorded Solomon Linda's record, but that copyright expired in 2012. However, the copyright for "The Lion Sleeps Tonight" continues. As near as I can tell, the from the original recording, there were no other words other than the under-chant of "Uyimbube", Zulu for "you ar the lion," which was misheard in America as "wimoweh." Here is the wikipedia article: en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Lion_Sleeps_Tonight#History In a wikipedia article about who has been credited with the song (George David Weiss) "The Lion Sleeps Tonight," the settlement of 2006 had the 4 following points: 1. Linda's heirs will receive payment for past uses of "The Lion Sleeps Tonight" and an entitlement to future royalties. 2. "The Lion Sleeps Tonight" is acknowledged as derived from "Mbube". 3. Solomon Linda is acknowledged as a co-composer of the song and will be designated as such. 4. A trust will be formed to administer the heirs’ copyright and to receive on their behalf the payments due. Though I cannot confirm it, I am assuming that the words "In the jungle, the mighty jungle..." were written by Weiss using a tune that Solomon Linda improvised near the end of his 1939 recording - at about 2:20. Here is the original recording: kzfaq.info/get/bejne/o9iihLdlvNHGfnk.html
@valeriemacphail9180
@valeriemacphail9180 2 жыл бұрын
As a youngster in Johannesburg in the 60's, I can guarantee this story was common knowledge. Particularly amongst music lovers.
@jamesvickers9476
@jamesvickers9476 2 жыл бұрын
well those he didn't had no idea until now
@valeriemacphail9180
@valeriemacphail9180 2 жыл бұрын
@@jamesvickers9476 ...those he didn't, or those who didn't? The point being, IT WAS NOT A SECRET.
@escae
@escae 2 жыл бұрын
Hello gramps
@paavobergmann4920
@paavobergmann4920 2 жыл бұрын
I grew up in the 80 in germany, and I always thought it was an african song.
@JaneDoe-ci3gj
@JaneDoe-ci3gj 2 жыл бұрын
I didn't know it until now!
@bjarneberglund7485
@bjarneberglund7485 Жыл бұрын
I was 13 years old when I heard "The Lion Sleeps Tonight" for the first time. It was with a group called The Hounds and that song has stayed with me through the years and still remain in my head with text and only good memories with positive experiences. Funny that it lives on with so many.
@shirleyroberts1240
@shirleyroberts1240 2 жыл бұрын
Thank you for sharing and having the courage to bring it to fruition, GOD BLESS!!!
@RJCHOICE
@RJCHOICE 3 жыл бұрын
"The Tokens" .. How Ironic.
@leelarson107
@leelarson107 3 жыл бұрын
Given the Democrats' plan to open the US borders to the whole world to come here and live for free, WE will soon be 'the tokens'.
@RJCHOICE
@RJCHOICE 3 жыл бұрын
@@leelarson107 What do you mean "We"?
@herthaschmitt7823
@herthaschmitt7823 3 жыл бұрын
@@leelarson107 Tokens for whom and what?
@mobeg8765
@mobeg8765 3 жыл бұрын
@@leelarson107 WTF are you talking about? You sound deranged. I’ve been a black token in your sick sad world for a long time. No one is opening up the borders so “everyone” can come here, just some people that look different than you. Sorry that things aren’t going to look so milquetoast in the next couple of decades. Your browner descendants will have better genes in the next generation.
@randalls9822
@randalls9822 3 жыл бұрын
Very aptly named 😞
@Ms.Tranquility
@Ms.Tranquility 3 жыл бұрын
This has been going on for centuries. “The first shall be last and the last shall be first.”
@msc2u1
@msc2u1 3 жыл бұрын
Amen 👏🏾🙏🏾👏🏾🙏🏾
@Me-ty8dd
@Me-ty8dd 3 жыл бұрын
YES YES YES
@KrazyVideoChick
@KrazyVideoChick 3 жыл бұрын
That's right Zion!
@ROCKSLIDZ
@ROCKSLIDZ 3 жыл бұрын
Amen!
@gbemiashaye1804
@gbemiashaye1804 3 жыл бұрын
AMEN
@gearshifterg9756
@gearshifterg9756 Жыл бұрын
I did my own research on this song around 1996 or so when we had The Tokens as a guest in our radio studio. As we had them live and on air, I asked how the song came about. The answer was sort of a brush off so I learned about Solomon Linda and the original recording. Which lead me to a C.D. set of some popular music that had been recorded much earlier. Like Hanky Panky by The Rain Drops or California Sun by Joe Jones, or Rock Around the Clock by Sunny Dae & the Knights
@jorydillard3766
@jorydillard3766 Жыл бұрын
I remember this being my favorite song when I was a kid… beautiful work to Solomon and his fellow musicians!
@scootermom1791
@scootermom1791 Жыл бұрын
Still one of my favorites! Especially after watching "The Ghost and the Darkness," several years ago. Idk what the original song's lyrics meant, but singing that there's nothing to worry about because the lion sleeps tonight had to be very comforting to a child.
@georgepolly6943
@georgepolly6943 2 жыл бұрын
I'm South African 73 years old and remember this song very clearly long before the Lion King. Lions do not live in the Jungle...they live in the "veld". George Polly
@filthylucreonyoutube
@filthylucreonyoutube 2 жыл бұрын
Cultural appropriation rarely gets it right.
@alcyone9361
@alcyone9361 2 жыл бұрын
@@filthylucreonyoutube Neither does self righteous snowflake whining.
@brxtmp106
@brxtmp106 3 жыл бұрын
Don't know how this popped up in my recommendations in 2021 but as an old folk singer from the 1960s I found this entire video's content fascinating. Thanks for presenting it...
@Superman679
@Superman679 2 жыл бұрын
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@garyclouse7234
@garyclouse7234 2 жыл бұрын
Thank you sir! I love that song but NEVER knew it's history! You are making a difference in our lives.
@peachesb-georgia1125
@peachesb-georgia1125 2 жыл бұрын
Glad you did the research to bring the true story behind the song... always liked it ☺️...
@1duskyknight
@1duskyknight 3 жыл бұрын
The Lion Sleeps Tonight is a funeral song that was sung when a King died to rise again.
@jessicaschoonmaker2073
@jessicaschoonmaker2073 3 жыл бұрын
yes
@vetb882
@vetb882 3 жыл бұрын
Exactly. 🥰💝👏 See my comment as above
@KM-pm6qe
@KM-pm6qe 3 жыл бұрын
Is that really true? That sure puts the song in a different emotional light than what I thought.
@louisestaats234
@louisestaats234 3 жыл бұрын
Interesting. The song "Nights in White Satin" was also a funeral song.
@spheseko9039
@spheseko9039 3 жыл бұрын
I'm South African. We know the truth, we grew on the knowledge. Unfortunately there are those who are just always waiting to steal! Long live King Shaka. 🇿🇦🇿🇦
@ferengiprofiteer9145
@ferengiprofiteer9145 3 жыл бұрын
Stole it? What did Africans pay to hear it? Does anyone pay royalties to do Shakespeare plays? I'm just happy the origin got credit. They probably got it from some else as well. OBTW, pretty sure those were Africans that sold Africans into slavery. Slavery didn't originate in north America.
@mn5008
@mn5008 3 жыл бұрын
@@ferengiprofiteer9145 Man shut the fvck UP!!!
@christina7215
@christina7215 3 жыл бұрын
@@mn5008 no you stfu 🖕🏻
@pawwalker3492
@pawwalker3492 3 жыл бұрын
@@ferengiprofiteer9145 - amazing that you make a point disagreeing with someone, or pointing out that Africans sold their fellow Africans into slavery through tribal wars, and the best someone can answer you with is _"Man shut the fvck UP!!!"_
@shemeciahaskell322
@shemeciahaskell322 3 жыл бұрын
@@ferengiprofiteer9145 ignorance isn't bliss Shakespeee got credit for his work while he was alive but patents wear off after 200 years so anyone can sample after that. Also you need a real history lesson because the majority of African slaves were captured not sold by other Africans. " Reading is fundamental " 🙄
@ferdinandsiegel4470
@ferdinandsiegel4470 11 ай бұрын
Just imagine how many songs were done and somebody comes along and does a better job at it.
@toanogreen
@toanogreen 2 жыл бұрын
I don't know how this popped up in my search list, but I'm glad it did. It still bothers me how people steal from true artist and call it their own. And it is usually stolen from cultures (races) that are under represented and not compensated for their works.
@you_can_call_me_T
@you_can_call_me_T 3 жыл бұрын
Miriam Makeba did a beautiful cover that pays homage to the original song.
@SuperSwifty59
@SuperSwifty59 3 жыл бұрын
My mother's fave singer Miriam Makeba
@lisataylor8468
@lisataylor8468 3 жыл бұрын
I’m in love love love with the Click Song by her. Beautiful!
@susiemuirhead561
@susiemuirhead561 3 жыл бұрын
I grew up listening to Miriam Makeba's Pata Pata and the Click Song.
@thecheddarshredder
@thecheddarshredder 3 жыл бұрын
Miriam was so beautiful!!! Out of all renditions of “the click song” hers from 1963 is my favorite. And pata pata is a bop 😂 and there is an interview she did and you can tell that she was so smart, it’s sad she was born during such an unfortunate time.
@you_can_call_me_T
@you_can_call_me_T 3 жыл бұрын
I think I could hang out with all of y'all lol. Do any of you remember the episode of the Cosby Show where she was on there?
@bernadeangreene2917
@bernadeangreene2917 3 жыл бұрын
Once again, "the original group that made this classic song didn't get near what it was worth and what they was worth". Thanks for sharing the history.
@mikegee8875
@mikegee8875 2 жыл бұрын
Do a remake called "while Biden sleeps tonight"
@jamaicanwash6667
@jamaicanwash6667 2 жыл бұрын
@@mikegee8875 lmao
@denisburgess2966
@denisburgess2966 2 жыл бұрын
@@mikegee8875 Pathetic comment
@wanaraz
@wanaraz 2 жыл бұрын
@@mikegee8875 LOL Yeah but you have to leave out the lion part.
@p.w.7493
@p.w.7493 2 жыл бұрын
@@wanaraz Your 'moniker' is apropos and says it all! You REALLY 'don't know', do you?💯
@boathousejoed1126
@boathousejoed1126 Жыл бұрын
Wow! Eye opening video.Who would of thought...Thanks for posting.
@karllegrand
@karllegrand Жыл бұрын
Sometimes, the urge to sing "The Lion Sleeps Tonight" is just a whim away...a whim away...a whim away...a whim away...
@mr.b.9969
@mr.b.9969 3 жыл бұрын
"Artist creates an original and catchy song" Music Industry: Put that under "public domain folk material"
@implive17
@implive17 3 жыл бұрын
As a South African this story breaks my heart. Mbube is such a beautiful song.
@ghw7192
@ghw7192 Жыл бұрын
In mid December, 2022, I was in a nursing home recovering from an accident and at 6:30AM, one of the CNA's was walking down the hall singing "The Lion Sleeps Tonight"! I loved it!
@johannaetrishamorgan6850
@johannaetrishamorgan6850 Жыл бұрын
Thank you for this clip
@hanchee2664
@hanchee2664 3 жыл бұрын
For those of us who grew up in the 50s and the '60s forward, we can understand a lot of what goes on for the sake of money. Good to see people like you that is sincerely involved in doing the right thing, congratulations
@richardpele5427
@richardpele5427 3 жыл бұрын
Did Eddie Murphy know of this because his wake up alarm in "Coming To America" sounds like the original just slowed down, either way it still sounded beautiful.
@jenniferharding-williams1937
@jenniferharding-williams1937 3 жыл бұрын
Probably not
@namelesschild40
@namelesschild40 3 жыл бұрын
Eddie Murphy did the original
@yashursuntheamericanindian
@yashursuntheamericanindian 3 жыл бұрын
I am sure he knew, we wouldn't steal other cultures ideas for our own profit
@armyncveteranvital0611
@armyncveteranvital0611 3 жыл бұрын
I'm betting since it sounded more like the original it was strategically placed in the movie.
@patriciaparker7663
@patriciaparker7663 3 жыл бұрын
@@yashursuntheamericanindian that's always been done in the US Like the president brag about this economy but Obama had a 10 years Recovery Act. Obama said something about it "President Day" Trump said he trying to take credit for the economy.
@dndanga
@dndanga 2 жыл бұрын
Thank you for doing this
@nicolaiitchenko7610
@nicolaiitchenko7610 2 жыл бұрын
Breaking out and bursting into song with this song is only a whim away. LOL
@user-dk4ir6hn9n
@user-dk4ir6hn9n 3 жыл бұрын
That was awesome! I'm 59 and that's the first time I have ever heard that story. . . Do the math. . .I was born in 1961, the same year "The lion sleeps tonight" came out. . . My entire life, never heard the story, until now. Thank you.
@Superman679
@Superman679 2 жыл бұрын
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@carsandrajones7596
@carsandrajones7596 2 жыл бұрын
I DON'T SEE ANYTHING AWESOME ABOUT IT. STEALING FROM THE RIGHTFUL OWNER AND GETTING AWAY WITH IT IS A TRAGEDY.
@fitters2202
@fitters2202 2 жыл бұрын
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@fitters2202 2 жыл бұрын
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@yashursuntheamericanindian
@yashursuntheamericanindian 3 жыл бұрын
The real version is played in Eddie Murphy, "coming to America", Mbube
@smangahmanqele8846
@smangahmanqele8846 3 ай бұрын
The song was sung in King Shaka's funeral. Mbube is The Lion King, which was Shaka Zulu.
@martaparsons5633
@martaparsons5633 Жыл бұрын
This is an amazing story. Thank you.
@rogerlewis7894
@rogerlewis7894 2 жыл бұрын
Fun fact: Mbube is the opening song to the 1988 movie "Coming To America" Most would Identify it as the intro to.... you guessed it... The Lion Sleeps Tonight.
@valoruniversity
@valoruniversity 2 жыл бұрын
right when i heard the song I thought of Coming To America
@maryke1142
@maryke1142 3 жыл бұрын
I knew as a kid that the song had to have originated in one of the African countries. Thanks for covering this.
@MexicoDigDoctor
@MexicoDigDoctor Жыл бұрын
Thank you for this. I was born in 1958, and grew up with 2 versions of this song. Obviously, it goes back well before that. I would love to know more about it, but I thank you for giving me a start from which to begin.
@PreparingForSHTF
@PreparingForSHTF 2 жыл бұрын
I've always loved that song. It's infectious. Now I can never hear it again without thinking about the inherent evil in a system that would allow this to continue on to this very day.
@EvilSearchEngine
@EvilSearchEngine 2 жыл бұрын
Yeah, you keep flagellating yourself all the way to your grave for something that was done by someone else over half a century ago. Have fun with that! :-)
@EvilSearchEngine
@EvilSearchEngine 2 жыл бұрын
@YaBoiToota Ok. Lots of stuff much more terrible happened in the past where the perpetrators didn't get punished. What can you do about all of it?
@EvilSearchEngine
@EvilSearchEngine 2 жыл бұрын
@YaBoiToota That's a nice goal.
@markjapan4062
@markjapan4062 Жыл бұрын
1000 BUCKS THEN IS LIKE 75.000 NOW IN AFRICA 200.000 IT WAS A GOOD PAYOUT ..
@dis7817
@dis7817 Жыл бұрын
Welcome to the real world of human behaviors.
@kayallen9288
@kayallen9288 3 жыл бұрын
Thank you for being awesome in telling the true story behind this song. Not many people know the truth. Very very sad that the creators of this song never seen any royalties or credits for their song.
@joepasco1420
@joepasco1420 3 жыл бұрын
They are getting credit now.
@sheinagrant7936
@sheinagrant7936 3 жыл бұрын
@@joepasco1420 they are due not just credit but significant royalties should be given to their descendants just like the thieves who stole it, they used it to create wealth and opportunity for theirs. An the greatest thieves in the history of humanity are still doing it to this day. You nedd look no futher than TikTock.
@wanaraz
@wanaraz 2 жыл бұрын
@@sheinagrant7936 What an idiot. They were in South africa. This is America. Besides the songs did not sound anything alike. You are just a racist angry black person who's life has been a failure and need to blame it on another race.
@p.w.7493
@p.w.7493 2 жыл бұрын
@@wanaraz Really, don't you know that the enemy tries his best to steal what is another's and when he does, he makes SURE it's HARD to identify? However, the true OWNER KNOWS what was stolen and can IDENTIFY it. Didn't you just watch/listen to the video? It was STOLEN!!💯
@wanaraz
@wanaraz 2 жыл бұрын
@@p.w.7493 Nothing was stolen and there 1938 version did not sound like any one else's . The key was different, the rhythm was different the notes were different. STOLEN was a claim by somebody like you. People cry all the time for their failures.
@apryl6788
@apryl6788 3 жыл бұрын
Thank You for sharing the TRUTH! It makes me so SAD that this happened & I'll never be able to hear the song the same! Like all things BIG MONEY, entitlement, corruption equals the same! Such a SAD world we live in!
@donnaveitpolanski4154
@donnaveitpolanski4154 10 ай бұрын
I remember sitting around a campfire and we started strumming and singing this song and everyone was singing and laughing and banging on anything we could find. So fun!
@leopardhorses
@leopardhorses 2 жыл бұрын
Thank you for sharing this !!!! That has always been one of my favorite songs ... but i never knew this history 😪😪😪😪
@markherron1407
@markherron1407 3 жыл бұрын
Give credit where's credit is due, give honor where's honor is due.The Linda family should receive royalties from that song.Blessing and hugs!
@markherron1407
@markherron1407 3 жыл бұрын
@Gazzara5 Who should get the royalties?
@TitoTimTravels
@TitoTimTravels 3 жыл бұрын
@Gazzara5 They still have the original rights to Mbube and Wimoweh, but not on Lion Sleeps. The copyright under British law was for the life of the composer, plus 50 years. The family did receive a settlement, and royalties - until the settlement expired in 2017.
@jestnessj3574
@jestnessj3574 3 жыл бұрын
Just added to the growing list of things stolen. (Precious Metals, diamonds, people, heritage, language, freedom, history, choice, money, music, Innocence, lives, an entire continent)
@waltkraybill5129
@waltkraybill5129 3 жыл бұрын
MBube would have never been discovered if Pete Seeger, Bert Kaempfert and the Tokens had not improved on it. Sounds harsh, but true.
@lovelady753
@lovelady753 3 жыл бұрын
Truely an Entire continent.... we only pray God have mercy on what humans have done to humanity in their lust for greed.
@idresufts5849
@idresufts5849 3 жыл бұрын
@@waltkraybill5129 Improved on, merely is the a viewpoint that a song may mature over time. I'll take Cheap Tricks' Don't be Cruel over Elvis' version anytime, cause tha't my view. Your comment should have been a stand alone comment, not a reply to the above, as what was stated by Jestness IS TRUE.
@ryanpronorzelus1983
@ryanpronorzelus1983 3 жыл бұрын
@@waltkraybill5129 so what are you saying?
@jamesbrown6105
@jamesbrown6105 3 жыл бұрын
@@waltkraybill5129 how did they improve it?
@burcubingul4493
@burcubingul4493 Ай бұрын
Thanks for this!
@TheShanieB
@TheShanieB 2 жыл бұрын
Thank you, for this. Wow. I must share.
@teddygraham5230
@teddygraham5230 3 жыл бұрын
This is nothing new. I appreciate “Coming to America” used the original South African version.
@heatherjones6647
@heatherjones6647 3 жыл бұрын
Did the film remit royalties directly to the heirs? If not it is still theft.
@tahira1
@tahira1 3 жыл бұрын
@@heatherjones6647 obviously if they used the original song, they were aware and the heirs would automatically receive the royalties.
@kkrolf2782
@kkrolf2782 3 жыл бұрын
@@tahira1 There is never anything “automatic” with regard to money, especially when it comes to monies funneling to rightful recipients.
@tahira1
@tahira1 3 жыл бұрын
@@kkrolf2782 the song is registered in the PRS amongst other entities which are there to ensure the heirs receive their due. So in this case yes you can know that automatically their monies are being sent.
@kkrolf2782
@kkrolf2782 3 жыл бұрын
@@tahira1 thank you for the follow up.
@porshprix4286
@porshprix4286 3 жыл бұрын
So the original artist got cheated. Not uncommon even now.
@waltkraybill5129
@waltkraybill5129 3 жыл бұрын
Not really.
@virtualatheist
@virtualatheist 3 жыл бұрын
@@waltkraybill5129 It seems to be even more virulent now.
@smallfeet4581
@smallfeet4581 3 жыл бұрын
oh there were lots who got done out of royalties or credits for a song , some today are not so naive about the music industry thankfully ,
@MovieMakingMan
@MovieMakingMan 3 жыл бұрын
In a capitalistic system the true innovators or inventors usually have their ideas stolen by no talent predators who make all the money off other people’s ideas. Capitalism is corrupt and the rules of capitalism are written by the sociopathic rich who buy politicians and write laws to favor predatory sociopaths.
@user-bb5wq6vw5f
@user-bb5wq6vw5f 3 жыл бұрын
Yes that figures of thiefts, taking credit.
@anesti01
@anesti01 Жыл бұрын
Thank you for the history of the song, but also your intuition to open such a status, which requires desire, passion and will. The history of the music is very beautiful.
@justjakewolverine4619
@justjakewolverine4619 13 күн бұрын
Love the lesson, thank you. Have and still do, love this song. My wife and I won a dance contest dancing to The Lion Sleeps Tonight by the Tokens.
@gortbot7748
@gortbot7748 2 жыл бұрын
Thank you. I was in High School when The Lion was big. Always wondered about the inspiration and origin. Got the answer 60 years later. Feeling my age, body aches and pains, but never too old to learn.
@avesraggiana
@avesraggiana 3 жыл бұрын
“Shaka was called ‘The Black Napoleon.’ But I prefer to think of Napoleon as ‘The White Shaka’.” - Miriam Makeba.
@mr.stomatopoda
@mr.stomatopoda 3 жыл бұрын
Technically speaking, Shaka Zulu was born in 1787, and Napoleon was born in 1769, thus Napoleon would be the first to exist, therefore not making him a "Caucasian Shaka" . However, whilst this is the case, due to both existing around the same time, and never encountering each other, with doubts as to the two even knowing of the others existence, as well as them performing their incredible feats at around the same time, the only thing that is certain is that they were both legendary generals in their own right, both however loosing their kingdoms to those they trusted.
@omamajohnpaul4215
@omamajohnpaul4215 3 жыл бұрын
@@mr.stomatopoda But do you agree that the Israelites were and still are black people?
@arosefortes6507
@arosefortes6507 3 жыл бұрын
@@omamajohnpaul4215 😯 What!? I never thought of that. Though definitely not white lol. Any info on this?
@omamajohnpaul4215
@omamajohnpaul4215 3 жыл бұрын
@@arosefortes6507 Well, I have scriptural proof like Deuteronomy 28:68. SLAVESHIPS 🤔, sound familiar?
@seetheanimal5867
@seetheanimal5867 3 жыл бұрын
@@omamajohnpaul4215 depends on what ur projecting 👀 and u ain't said nothing more 🤷🏽‍♂️
@D.S.I.fitness
@D.S.I.fitness 9 ай бұрын
Amazing video and illustrations
@geriatricyclist1950
@geriatricyclist1950 Жыл бұрын
was only vaguely aware of its origins but I knew it was from South Africa. Not surprised- music industry history yet again. Always loved this song and as I hear it from now on I will always be grateful to Solomon Linda. Thanks for researching this- great stuff.
@jamesmayden2155
@jamesmayden2155 3 жыл бұрын
Pull yourselves up by your bootstraps they say...we'll just take your boots when you're done!
@trubeleiverz4723
@trubeleiverz4723 3 жыл бұрын
facts
@jamesmayden2155
@jamesmayden2155 3 жыл бұрын
@Cheryle Hunter Good point!
@truthbetold6011
@truthbetold6011 3 жыл бұрын
EXACTLY
@purplehealz3476
@purplehealz3476 3 жыл бұрын
And yet I’m barefoot 🦶
@michaelfranklin4276
@michaelfranklin4276 2 жыл бұрын
People should bear in mind that the Token's version was released as the "B" side of the 45. There was so little confidence that it would become a major hit at the time. People also forget this spawned African influences on later Token songs.
@robertahenman6970
@robertahenman6970 8 ай бұрын
Thank you for the very interesting history of the song.
@aaronsmith3032
@aaronsmith3032 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks for amplifying the story.
@susankolberg963
@susankolberg963 3 жыл бұрын
I too have always loved this song. It's such a joy to listen to. I'm grateful for the original song writer and singers in South Africa who first recorded it. And I'm grateful for The Tokens for bringing it to the world. And yes, those who created it first deserved more credit and money. It's disappointing that they didn't get the wealth.
@leonardguillory2511
@leonardguillory2511 2 жыл бұрын
Girl! That was the way All Artists we're done back then! When you don't have Any Idea I am of your worth, you'll settle for Anythang!! Like All those Blues songs that made Icons out of Common Rock names! Hell, "The Rolling Stones" literally named themselves after a Muddy tune!🤔
@markjapan4062
@markjapan4062 Жыл бұрын
AT THE TIME 1000 BUCKS WAS ALOT.....LIKE 75.000 TODAY SO IT WAS A GOOD PAYOUT
@sirsilva7079
@sirsilva7079 Жыл бұрын
Simple exploitation and appropriation, South African artists lost a lot even Paul Simon did this to MD Shirinda
@dis7817
@dis7817 Жыл бұрын
@@leonardguillory2511 Songwriters and musicians still get ripped off today by greedy publishers.
@dis7817
@dis7817 Жыл бұрын
@@sirsilva7079 Appropriation is a silly term, it's not like only one group in the world can sing a certain song or even wear certain clothes. People who feel "appropriated" should look at it as a compliment others like your style or your music or whatever is "appropriated" including food. I'm tired of hearing people whine about braided hairstyles or some white person wearing a kimono or cooking a cajun dish. And it seems to only be white people who appropriate right? Well, blacks can stop dying their hair blond and wearing it straight, nobody should wear baseball caps or blue jeans. It's just so childish.
@dionyates2482
@dionyates2482 4 жыл бұрын
1:26 Mbube is clearly pronounced 'mi-boo-beh' from the opening of the song - why bluster comically trying to pronounce it? Given that showing respect to the original is the point of this video, your constant mispronunciation looks insensitive and stupid.
@LEvans-vg7sp
@LEvans-vg7sp 4 жыл бұрын
Agreed. I was going to repost this but I'll find a better way to spread the knowledge.
@kevinmcmahon2491
@kevinmcmahon2491 4 жыл бұрын
I agree. His effected mispronunciation was stupid. The content of his video was fine so why not just communicate it and skip the infantile stuff.
@ryaen9828
@ryaen9828 3 жыл бұрын
Yes agreee!
@jeffschrade4779
@jeffschrade4779 3 жыл бұрын
You must be fun at parties... "Let's not have any humor, by jove. Stiff upper lip and all that you know." Bah.... In the words of Sgt. Hulka, "Lighten up!" kzfaq.info/get/bejne/n7RdlLur1be5lKs.html
@dionyates2482
@dionyates2482 3 жыл бұрын
@@jeffschrade4779 I'm a hoot, bitch. Now piss off and don't interrupt my 80s MTV fest again.
@pertinenttruths2611
@pertinenttruths2611 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the exposition.
@tightmike4945
@tightmike4945 Жыл бұрын
Wow! Great video, I'm 68, I don't know why, but I've always felt like there was more to the history of that great song, I think I might of even heard such stories years ago when the song became a hit! Thanks for the background!
@mistermyself1128
@mistermyself1128 3 жыл бұрын
Their name is "The Tokens". That cant be any funnier. How prophetic.
@tyriecemcnary3717
@tyriecemcnary3717 3 жыл бұрын
Yes I was thinking why are they called the tokens
@LarryMan51
@LarryMan51 3 жыл бұрын
Yeah, I always get a little chuckle out of that.
@BigSp3nda
@BigSp3nda 3 жыл бұрын
Dats fuked up
@mangot589
@mangot589 3 жыл бұрын
They were named after tokens? They still use them some places.
@mistermyself1128
@mistermyself1128 3 жыл бұрын
@@mangot589 Its not about the use of coins.
@smangelemngadi4668
@smangelemngadi4668 5 жыл бұрын
This makes me so sad! The descendeds have nothing to show for their fathers talent.
@TheJanster100
@TheJanster100 3 жыл бұрын
And this theme is repeated, way too often... too sad...
@nl396
@nl396 3 жыл бұрын
That's life
@yankee2666
@yankee2666 3 жыл бұрын
Stupid comment.
@vetb882
@vetb882 3 жыл бұрын
No, now they have millions once the deceivers were exposed.
@smangelemngadi4668
@smangelemngadi4668 3 жыл бұрын
I'm happy to hear that last I checked it wasn't so. I will do some research on that!
@vinkovinko9605
@vinkovinko9605 11 ай бұрын
Very interesting. Thanks. :)
@trcass1
@trcass1 Жыл бұрын
very interesting....thanks for sharing.
@colbrew9762
@colbrew9762 4 жыл бұрын
Solomon Lina's version is the original intro to "Coming to America"...
@DefinitelyOwen
@DefinitelyOwen 4 жыл бұрын
That’s cool! I didn’t know that
@SAM_163
@SAM_163 4 жыл бұрын
Eddy Murphy made me love the song & this man makes me understand the song🙏🙏🙏
@ummeiguess
@ummeiguess 4 жыл бұрын
interesting I never noticed that lol but probably bcz I've been listening to that version, and the version by Ladysmith Black Mambazo my whole life lol I didn't even think of The Token's version lol (why is that group name so much more apt after knowing what they did to Linda and his family?)
@brabbelbeest
@brabbelbeest 3 жыл бұрын
I just wanted to make this comment too, but saw somebody already shared this! awesome!
@justme8201
@justme8201 3 жыл бұрын
That is exactly...what I heard! Wait this sounds very familiar, at the opening of the movie.
@permogensen3964
@permogensen3964 4 жыл бұрын
A Danish singer by the name of Bamse (Bear), he had recorded a Danish version called Wimmersvej (Wimmers Street), and did not anything about this story till later. When he discovered it, he rerecorded it and all money went to the widow and family.
@decodesigns14
@decodesigns14 3 жыл бұрын
Stolen, are you serious..danish stole it.
@killerdillr
@killerdillr 3 жыл бұрын
@@decodesigns14 He made a Danish translation without knowing the history behind. He took The Tokens version a made his own from that. When he discovered the truth, he re-recorded it and gave all the money to the family. He is dead now. Look up Wimmersvej by Bamse :)
@debbiegarner870
@debbiegarner870 5 ай бұрын
Very sad about the origin of it and the lack of respect to the original artists. The ones who stole it should be ashamed of themselves. still one of my all time favorites of all songs.
@user-yg1dg6xm2g
@user-yg1dg6xm2g Ай бұрын
But they improved the song in every way. If they had released "Mbube" in America as it was and just changed the lyrics, it would have been a complete flop, so the creators lost nothing.
@russellyoung1262
@russellyoung1262 2 жыл бұрын
This thing happened to many songs and artists. Record labels sold songs over and over again and the originals never received loyalties....shame on them...I love the original and you for sharing the story
@lisaspikes4291
@lisaspikes4291 2 жыл бұрын
The Lion Sleeps Tonight has always been one of my favorite songs. It wasn’t until later in life that I learned that the song was of South African origin. I came to appreciate that style of a capella African music. I hope that whoever controls this type of thing can make amends and maybe get some monetary compensation for the original singers or their families.
@lamper2
@lamper2 2 жыл бұрын
I'm sure that will happen LOL
@mzzodiacc
@mzzodiacc 2 жыл бұрын
Host stated towards the end, that the family received a very small*🙄😒 compensation for the African song..
@2mrmartin3
@2mrmartin3 Жыл бұрын
Good for you! Thank you for giving credit where credit is due!
@alecjefferson6993
@alecjefferson6993 Жыл бұрын
Brilliant very interesting 🎶🎶🎶
@patrikhjorth3291
@patrikhjorth3291 4 жыл бұрын
Dude. "Mbube" isn't that difficult to pronounce, just _listen_ to what they are singing.
@ginathomas7813
@ginathomas7813 3 жыл бұрын
It is for the English 🙄
@hollywood5199
@hollywood5199 3 жыл бұрын
He was being condescending.
@ginathomas7813
@ginathomas7813 3 жыл бұрын
@@hollywood5199 and ignorant
@Virginia_Cayne
@Virginia_Cayne 3 жыл бұрын
Em-Bu-bay.
@Rosie6857
@Rosie6857 3 жыл бұрын
@@Virginia_Cayne That's a good deal closer than matey-boy got. But it's not necessary to stick an E at the beginning and simply wrong to put a vowel after the M.
@georgiarichards5628
@georgiarichards5628 3 жыл бұрын
I need to stop watching videos like this! Just breaks my heart how cruel evil wicked people are
@denzelvalentino8992
@denzelvalentino8992 3 жыл бұрын
That's not evil... that's WICKED!
@BG-lt4vf
@BG-lt4vf 3 жыл бұрын
Nahhhhh keep watching and researching Queen so we can educating the masses!
@blackapples4744
@blackapples4744 3 жыл бұрын
I disagree with you. People need to know how black people were taken advantage of... then and now.
@cowboy4jesus3N1
@cowboy4jesus3N1 3 жыл бұрын
All in the name of greed. I loathe that behavior. Any behavior that leads to one to poach or steal.
@clinthowe7629
@clinthowe7629 3 жыл бұрын
@@cowboy4jesus3N1 nobody poached anything, the record was in a batch of records brought for inspirational ideas from South Africa by a record company exec, the song was considered public domain in the us, there was no South African copyright law that was violated. These groups that made a Song from this were in all likelihood unaware of the existence of Solomon Linda, furthermore, why didn’t they have the record copyright protected?
@d.deckert6634
@d.deckert6634 2 жыл бұрын
Thank you for the original, folks looking for it. Luv u. xoxo
@sqzbxkd
@sqzbxkd 2 жыл бұрын
Fascinating!
@flakoczecho9477
@flakoczecho9477 3 жыл бұрын
"Disney settles Lion King song lawsuit Relatives of the original composer of The Lion Sleeps Tonight have dropped a lawsuit against Disney after settling for an undisclosed sum of money with a US music publishing house, their lawyer said."
@fairly_odd_couple6239
@fairly_odd_couple6239 3 жыл бұрын
Good they should be sued!! Tired of hearing other people making millions off someone else's songs!!
@ceeleewal1257
@ceeleewal1257 3 жыл бұрын
@@fairly_odd_couple6239 Are you tired of Disney making money off of somebody else's songs...or them not compensating original artists for using it? (Choose your words. That comment just sounded vindictive. A great deal of popular songs of the last 25 years or so belonged to someone else before they were hits known worldwide.)
@fairly_odd_couple6239
@fairly_odd_couple6239 3 жыл бұрын
@@ceeleewal1257 I think the words are "copyright infringement"!!
@sweetsavage8827
@sweetsavage8827 3 жыл бұрын
The original sounds much better
@sweetsavage8827
@sweetsavage8827 3 жыл бұрын
Sick to my stomach hearing non color singing this song
@kristinnefertiti8267
@kristinnefertiti8267 3 жыл бұрын
Yeah... Im def going to have an attitude EVERY time I hear the American version... I WILL tell this story.
@tomlund4951
@tomlund4951 3 жыл бұрын
They did a nice job I always loved it... to find out where it was first created makes it cooler!
@organfuneralcovers
@organfuneralcovers 3 жыл бұрын
Youre gay
@scottmiller8493
@scottmiller8493 3 жыл бұрын
You might want to have an attitude with most other artists since they steal rifts, bars, music transitions from all other artists too
@dmendez4741
@dmendez4741 3 жыл бұрын
Look at you and your liberal white outrage on other's behalf, God you ppl and your faux outrage, virtue signaling, white savior complexes are pathetic, annoying, patronizing, and racist
@jameswhite1910
@jameswhite1910 Жыл бұрын
Having worked in the music industry, it is important to understand that this is just how it works: one guy cannot make a success so someone else tries, they fail and someone else tries and WOW!! A HIT! Now that hit, in 1961, was heavily promoted at extreme cost to make it a hit. Regarding the "original writer", I suspect that if a Judge determined it to be public domain "folk" then the "original" writer maybe was not the actual original(?). Kind of like me recording "Twinkle Twinkle Little Star". That said though, it is pretty low-class of the band to not properly credit and then share (voluntarily, even) with the band that recorded first and got their attention.
@scootermom1791
@scootermom1791 Жыл бұрын
So the music industry can ignore copyright laws; steal someone else's music from them; and make a lot of money from it? That's what happened to Nik Kershaw. He sang "Wouldn't it be Good" before 3 Dog Night's Danny Hutton did for the Pretty in Pink soundtrack. According to an interview with Nik Kershaw I'd watched, producers never asked him for permission to use the song in the movie and didn't ask if they could have 3 Dog Night cover the song. They never even compensated him for it. Why are there copyright laws if they're never enforced? (At least not for the rich and powerful people in Hollywood!)
@makteko
@makteko 9 ай бұрын
An American judge who knows nothing about the song and calling it a folklore is the issue to begin with. The original writer created the song, it was never a folklore to begin with. Just a twisted American system, that's all. Also the song was not a fail, it did well in South Africa. It just never made it to the American audience since we are talking about the 1930s and 40s when the internet and social media was not around.
@donaldlynn57
@donaldlynn57 Жыл бұрын
thank you, I learn something new.
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