Craig Visnovec it's impossible. With all the shouting

I 100% believe you.

the animation managed it, just listen harder

Jeramy set off Ryan and continued... While Geoff called Alfredo 'Trevor'?

NO NOT THE DRILL!

KZfaq doesn't allow LiveLeak footage on their website.

It was brutal. They just ripped jack into pieces first, but before he went down he took geoff out. Michael broke a bottle over ryans head and Alfredo grabbed a brick and finnished the job. Lil j was trying to run from Alfredo before he got taken out and Michael and Alfredo got ran over by lindsay. It was something out of a movie.

I see Ryan standing over their corpses going, "huh that's what murder is like"

I see Ryan winning, with either Michael or Jeremy being the last to fall, Alfredo would be the first, followed by either Jack or Geoff with the other following soon after.

Legit....

Alfredo: Learning. Ryan: Doing. Achievement Hunter: Civil War

Teenager Groot I would pay to see that!

So Ryan is Tony Stark, right?

Well Jeremy is Ant Man, so that would make sense

Salt War

barbaro267 perfect description

Alfredo is the stranger who was passing by and got drawn into the arguement

barbaro267 I don’t know if I’d call Michael the voice of reason. He was screaming just as much as Jermey. I would say Geoff was the most logical and reasonable

Not trying to bring old drama back, but I don’t think Geoff was even the close of voice of reason. He agreed with Ryan saying doing is better than explaining since visually you can get a grasp on the raid while I do agree with this. Michael, Jeremy, and Jack had absolutely not clue how to do the raid, in turn, makes the video kinda boring. The best part of a raid is when everyone does their part to beat the raid and it is a cooperation. Michael is the voice of reason since Michael knowing the situation and tries to explain that he can’t hear Alfredo at all since 6 people are talking (mostly Ryan talking which doesn’t allow the others to hear their part). Geoff tries to rebuttal saying speak louder and that I can hear him through his headphones tho. The real issue with this statement is that Geoff headphone doesn’t work which means that he cant hear 6 people in his ears while everyone does and why would Michael take out his headphone to hear Alfredo if the whole goal of the headphones is to hear other people to begin with. Ryan says he should just talk or talk louder but he is the one speaking over everyone which makes it difficult to hear Alfredo who is clearly speaking quite loud. I am siding with Michael and Jeremy. Just for the main reasons that there are editors to edit the explanation of the raid, Ryan is clearly speaking over everyone; which doesn’t allow anyone to hear Alfredo, Geoff saying Alfredo is mumble mouth; which is incorrect, and as an audience, I wouldn’t want to watch 20-30 worth of tries in a video (if they were all shown or even cut to short periods). I would rather watch a video of guys who I like finish a difficult raid and knowing what they do before hand. It is mostly because people in the comments would bash at them; not knowing how to do the raid even tho they could have been explained about it before. Most of us can agree that we would “cringe” when someone uses a shovel to get wood in Minecraft or using your fist to get stone because they didn’t know an axe is faster and easier to get wood or using pickaxe allows stone to be picked. Same analogy for this situation. Again, it just my opinion

juzzy tv im from jersey and that's how me and my friends hangout we always insult one another and we dont get butt hurt by words and u forget they are all friends and I doubt any hard feelings are taken and if so the matter is probably settled like adults off camera

He wears that same expression the whole time!!!!

8:35

Indubitably you sound fun to hang around

Oh yeah, he's an instigator, and a jerk. That's why he's the funniest.

@@indubitably5986 And without Jack helping to instigate this, we wouldn't have such an amazing clip like this. Nor would we have the moment of Jeremy and Gavin arguing with each other over a compass in Minecraft. Jack knows how to play his cards right to produce some God damn great content. Lighten up a bit

I would argue Rage Quit Michael is more a persona than his actual character.

Thats why hes a fucking good dad

Yeah Michael is actually a pretty level headed person

@@juliedouglas7345 My favorite member 😁

Oh how the turnstable

"WHO'S BEE CARRYING YOU THROUGH THIS GODDAMN RAID! WHO'S BEEN SITTING HERE, TELLING YOU HOW TO WANK YOUR OWN GODDAMN DICK, RYAN! IT'S BEEN ME!"

Starkill3r 306 my favorite bit is when Fredo finally loses his shit and goes off on ryan

This whole argument felt as if it were me and my brother playing or watching something in the evening. All of the sudden either he says or I say something that annoys each OTHER, and all he'll breaks lose. 1 hour after the screaming ansmd shit, the one who started the argument goes to the other's room and is like, are you mad?

Michael immediately going JACK NO DONT DO THIS

Silently I was like, "Oh boy, here we go."

What part is this?

10:23

that was no longer coworker Geoff, that was boss Geoff telling Ryan to drop it

@@jtool8744 Which was a good call. Ryan bringing up the "I could've just looked up a guide" line was not only completely disrespectful to Alfredo who was doing his hardest to lead the group through the raid, but would've started another unnecessary screaming match. Good on Geoff to step in and tell Ryan to knock it off.

@@MrAwesomeMatty but it was 100 percent true as well

that's why after rvb, AH was the best thing to join

Red versus red, Blue versus blue, I against I, and me against you! -Blood Gulch Blues Theme song to RvB

Alexander Anderson no they're not, they're coworkers

Richard Avelino but they are friends

Heart Like A Hand Grenade Two words, each other...

Cuz when Ray left he took WAFFLEO with him

Unfortunately waffleo died with ray 😔

That's when the Mad King awakens

Ryan's anger is a slow burn into a raging inferno.

@@Chirpysemperboy yeah but by the end Alfredo looked like he truly wanted to murder someone

No because when ryan gets actually angry he gets quiet

Nicolas Hillebrand he is doing it for his kidneys, that level of salt would kill the entire population of china

I was thinking that too 😂

Same. I could feel myself clench my jaw.

5 years later Jeremy was the real problem during this raid

@@blackrose8418 That is just not true lol. Remove Jeremy from this situation and you would still have a problem between Ryan and Jack/Alfredo/Michael/Geoff. Remove Ryan and there wouldn't have been an issue at all. Jeremy was not helping(and certainly was the second biggest contributor to the Salt) but it was 90% Ryan. He was absolutely the problem.

@georgeeast5502 its true

@@blackrose8418 No

Fucking busted a gut

Look at you! That was you who planted that. That was you

Makes you wonder why Ray ever ended up leaving. Was it JUST for finding his own career, or was it....?

Richard Avelino he also really hated playing the same games every week.

RAvelino Yeah no it was definitely the career and boredom of playing certain games. Just wanted to do his own thing.

Uhh ray died...did he leave before that?

jammin12 2 Funny how going into that, he full on fucking knew that’s what they did and still wanted the job.

He's just so aggressively supportive that he could bludgeon someone to death with his compliments.

I mean, Ryan did just start cutting

Alex Hamilton It is also true that they are entertainers, not doctors

*LEARN BY DOING*

Suggested video: Let's Play: Surgeon Simulator

Which Off Topic is that, if you remember?

CrimsonOdachi you find it?

@@SilentOak99 Nope.

wouldn't be the first time Destiny disappoints their fans

for april's fool all the purple stuff needs to be replaced with salt

In the next raid they should have a section where you have to survive against hoards of toddlers while only using melee and grenades and have a random raid member scream out “Lets kill these toddlers!”. Would be great

It's what makes the light fade away....

They're not friends, they're coworkers

OH FUCK THAT WAS TOWARDS JEREMY! I just thought it was because their desks are about 4 feet together......but that doesn't quite make sense.

💀

That made me die

7:54 i bet he said this tho

Big oof.

That's funny as shit

Today

I know this is old, but what did he mean by that?

​@@darkfranky6I also like watching old videos lol. Anyways I'm assuming that Geoff is the godfather of one of Michael's kids. Being a godfather usually means you're the sponser for the kids baptism as well as help raise them through Christian faith. However since I know Geoff wasn't religious at the time and I'm not sure about Michael, godfathers/godmothers are also caretakers of the child if anything were to happen to the parents and other family can't take them in. In other words, being chosen as a godparent is usually a very special thing. As a jab, Michael "ungodfathered" Geoff for saying they're not friends

Gavin being in this video would make things easier. He would become the target of everyone's rage and he's good at taking it with a smile and a laugh at this point. For further reference, watch S1E22 of Community.

Michael O'Connor This is pretty much what Gavin goes through in most of the videos he’s in. He is just really good at laughing off criticism

I feel like Ray would actually just stay silent through most of it.

Could even hear the “Goddamnit” from Alfredo immediately after

Trunks Gaming When was this

Chike Nnabugwu little late but 4:39

DaTerrible Gamer it gave me life lol

It made me want to cry a little bit. It's a little like listening to my parents argue.

Andrew DeVita do you think he felt differently about joining AH after that?

Why? He’s a little bitch

Epic PHail Oh, I don't know. Maybe because some people have empathy.

Fuck Alfredo

@@AaryTheAce alfredo did the raid as a farming strate, the day it came out

Nah

10. But I might be wrong.

man

amazing passive aggression LMAO

Yeah, he was basically yelling over Fredo while he was explaining, yelling over Michael trying to explain the problem, and then yelling over everyone even trying to say anything (whether to him or anyone else).

guyyouseewhenyoudie very gay and i agree

guyyouseewhenyoudie Too Bad he’s kind of a bitch lmao

Dude I saw him get milk last week? The sexiest mad alive right there unf

Jesus Thy Potato What?

@@LoveThomas07 you know what

V3lcro Frosty this must of been the first clip u have ever watched of them then

Luka K Pretty much. I been watching them since 2013

Luka K Nah. This is quite a rare occurrence. I can't think of the last time they got genuinely angry at each other. They joke around at each others expense sure, but not actually hate on them

+Luka K - I've been watching AH since it's inception, it wasn't this bad. Even they themselves admitted that it hasn't been that bad before, at least not since Legends of the Hidden Tower which was mostly humorous and from Geoff. This was a straight up civil war.

I feel like I remember some heat from Ray in the first round of Rainbow Six Vegas videos. And Michael could get pretty hot early on. And then there is of course the Culling lets watch.

This comment gives me hope

Crystal Clods hope for what lmao

@@bobbyshewan4229 chaos caused by the Mad King

You're not wrong.

Boy of Steel "Who's been carrying you through this goddamn raid, who's been sitting here telling you how to wack your own goddamn dick!" was pretty good.

Brother, why are mommy and daddy fighting?

Was just listening to a great You're Wrong About episode this morning about the myth that Yoko broke them up... makes this comment more true than ever. The knowledge we have, as current listeners, that this group WILL be split apart; that one of the antogonists is a shitty person with a penchant for fucked-up power dynamics in his sexual relationships; the way their creative differences drive their arguments. Sadly there is no earnest hippie Japanese artist lady in this scenario to redeem the villain. But at least we have Alfredo

Lmao fantastic comment, I cringed a bit hearing Michael say that.

It seems he took that advice to heart.

Michael talked about this on an off topic a couple of year ago about fredo being like mann fuck ryan and now in 2021 he now means it personally

I already didn't side with Ryan originally in this video... And especially now.

My money's on Jeremy, hands down.

Timed Revolver my money on the mad king

In an unplanned fight, it would be a good bout. But I would not want to give the Mad King time to think up a revenge scheme.

He would have liked it. The other raid video's were not very fun because they got alfredo to walk them all through it offscreen. Compare that to their other raid video's, where they only have a slight clue about what's going on, and how fun they are. Alfredo, by explaining everything, cut out most of the good content.

You say that like they didn't get almost the entirety of the Oryx raid explained to them by flying Andrew Panton in. Also for the Iron Banner raid they all knew exactly what to do but it was just people fking up those aspects like Geoff being unable to jump properly that made it entertaining. Could you imagine that series if they didn't know what being empowered meant and that they had to slam the back of the raid boss and just kept wiping again and again? IDK about you but that does not sound like good content. Just get the fight explained and THEN learn by doing, nothing wrong with that.

'Heyooo, here comes Andy!'

Andy as in Andrew Panton?

Not for no reason. Geoff was also probably bored to tears by the explanation for the dog part and knew they would have had to deal with the same or worse with the boss.

Update: I wanna say on an off topic maybe a month or two ago geoff said he agreed with Ryan because he thought Ryan was alone on his arguement

This is the correct opinion

I can guarantee Ryan banged fans because his wife wasn’t putting out.

​@justsomeguy6336 really hope you were joking

@@ryanr4156 I can’t see my comment. But I’m more right than wrong.

Downloaded it all because this is historic

-I was just commenting, the reason I knew Alfredo was right for Achievement Hunter was the moment he went off on R "WHO'S BEEN CARRYING YOU THROUGH THIS GOD DAMN RAID?" Not sure if the context of this is relevant to "recent" events.... but.... it does seem odd things turned out the way they did....

Well it happened

@@ghostfenrir1892 Alfredo and Trevor killed achievement hunter so yea

@@SleepySnaiI damn mad much? Or do you just yell at people and cuss them out because your life is all an act 🤣

Nah, fuck him for everything that came out, but this moment in Destiny is still something I'll defend, it is far easier to learn the mechanics of something with a visual reference, Don't just stand there for 15 minutes rambling off a whole bunch of information, start the damn encounter and explain as we go, it makes it much more understandable, I understand his frustration. He turned out to be really fucking shitty but there was nothing wrong with this video.