The Santos de Cartier Is Better Than The Rolex Datejust - Side By Side Comparison Video

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Monarch Timepiece Collection

Monarch Timepiece Collection

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In this video I will be discussing which watch is a better addition to the collection for that staple piece of an elegant stainless steel timepiece. Comment down below which watch you would pick, and follow the Instagram account @monarchtimepiececollection for more exclusive watch related content!

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@Dante3X
@Dante3X Жыл бұрын
Agreed. Santos is the clear winner ✅
@monarchtimepiececollection
@monarchtimepiececollection Жыл бұрын
It’s a keeper!
@user-mp5ww2bt7q
@user-mp5ww2bt7q 5 күн бұрын
I don’t buy a watch to impress anybody else, but to bring me joy, I’m too old to care if others like it or are impressed. Personally I have often had great conversations with other Rolex owners just due to the shared passion of Rolex. Sitting on a flight, 2 x 3 seat configuration, 5 out of us 6 turned out to wear a Rolex, which 4 of us noticed already before take off, bringing us a knowing smile between complete strangers. That’s what I like, people who appreciate a Rolex and have it because they like it, not because they think, do others think it’s cool or is it common.
@walkerb1734
@walkerb1734 Жыл бұрын
I 100% agree with your thoughts around the commonality of Rolex. I’ve been wearing my JLC Geophysic 1958 nonstop instead of my Rolex pieces because I just got tired of having the same watch as everyone else.
@monarchtimepiececollection
@monarchtimepiececollection Жыл бұрын
Yup, it kinda takes away from the experience of you wear a sub while you’re out and see 5-10 people wearing the exact same watch. And tbh The times I’m wearing my santos, or Hamilton I’ll end up having a great conversation with someone else who notices the watch. Idk I’m getting the itch to sell my Rolex watches and just completely change up my collection. I’d love to sell my bluesy and get a JLC Polaris date.
@Spectraevil
@Spectraevil Жыл бұрын
I wanted to buy Rolex but the sheer arrogance of Rolex AD’s drove me away. I started to look at other options and stumbled upto, Santos, what a watch❤
@monarchtimepiececollection
@monarchtimepiececollection Жыл бұрын
Couldn’t agree more. The whole game of going to the rolex AD to be ALLOWED to spend your hard earned money while they just hand out the popular models to clients with a spend history that have several rolex models to cycle through is just flat out ridiculous. That isn’t luxury. Going to a Cartier or Omega boutique and being properly attended to is luxury, and the santos is just so much more appealing to me than a datejust. The datejust is just too common and plain to be honest. Thank you for your comment!
@tyarnold4088
@tyarnold4088 8 ай бұрын
That's too bad because it didn't used to be like that. Even 10 years ago you could walk into an AD and get any Rolex model, except for a Daytona. But you ended up with a great watch. Santos was a good choice.
@DxModel219
@DxModel219 2 ай бұрын
@@tyarnold4088I think the problem is in the 10 years before pandemic Rolex was in very high demand and it got to the dealer’s head. However for the past 3 years watch dealers have been flooded with used Rolex watches and Demand has almost died. It’s now picking back up but still if you treat customers that way you’re going to pay dearly in the long run like Ferrari. I’d rather get a Porsche because they treat me so much better.
@cmatz175
@cmatz175 Жыл бұрын
Couple years ago I was frothing at the mouth over newer Datejusts w/ fluted bezels...never could get ahold of one. Now I have matured to Cartier and have a Santos Medium and a Black Santos Large WSSAA0037. No regrets.
@monarchtimepiececollection
@monarchtimepiececollection Жыл бұрын
Right there with you buddy
@adsf3ed
@adsf3ed Ай бұрын
amazing comparison, i was trying to decide which watch to kickoff my collection and this video helped TONS! earned a sub
@monarchtimepiececollection
@monarchtimepiececollection Ай бұрын
Thanks bud! Glad to have you and welcome!
@ezreal5599
@ezreal5599 Жыл бұрын
great vid bud keep going i believe in this chanel big up there
@monarchtimepiececollection
@monarchtimepiececollection Жыл бұрын
Thanks man I greatly greatly appreciate that. Really means a lot!
@vautierchristophe
@vautierchristophe Жыл бұрын
Both watches are very beautiful. I like the day just that I wear on special occasions. But the Santos is a stylishly every day watch. Here in France I bought it in The Cartier flagship shop in Paris (rue de la Paix). This purchase rue de la Paix was a great experience.
@monarchtimepiececollection
@monarchtimepiececollection Жыл бұрын
That is so freaking cool! I have yet to have a bad experience at a Cartier store or boutique. Everyone in the store is always very attentive and patient which really adds to the experience of purchasing a luxury watch that is thousands of dollars versus having to practically beg to be allowed to spend your hard earned money. Idk for me Cartier’s watches are elegant well made timepieces that should be strongly considered when looking for a new addition to the collection. Thank you for the comment!
@xfortysd40
@xfortysd40 Жыл бұрын
Completely agree, bought the Cartier adlc large grey not to long ago and has become my favorite in my collection. Just ozzies style and class without being over the top. Just a killer watch!
@monarchtimepiececollection
@monarchtimepiececollection Жыл бұрын
It is! And the grey dial with the white Roman numerals is just the perfect amount of contrast. Honestly the santos is a much much better watch than the datejust
@Kciroy
@Kciroy Жыл бұрын
The ADLC version is also alot more scratch resistant right? i've been looking at one recently
@monarchtimepiececollection
@monarchtimepiececollection Жыл бұрын
@@Kciroy yea I think so. Also the new PVD santos are scratch resistant too
@Kciroy
@Kciroy Жыл бұрын
@@monarchtimepiececollection Oh yeah with the Blue bezel right? i'm yet to decide which Santos i like most, but it's not like i can even afford one right now haha
@monarchtimepiececollection
@monarchtimepiececollection Жыл бұрын
@@Kciroy that’s fine bud, now is the time to explore your options, watch videos talking about specs and specific details, what people think about them as far as the pros and cons to see if there’s a reoccurring theme, and what pertains to you. There’s videos where they go super deep into the mechanism and details about different watches and watches at different price points so that helps evolve your taste as well. Go into the ADs, try on every model you’re interested in and ones you’re not. It’ll help solidly your choice so when you are in that position to get one you won’t second guess it, you won’t have buyers remorse, and it’ll be that much sweeter owning it 👍🏼
@MrDucatiti
@MrDucatiti Жыл бұрын
Good comparison video. I have both watches, TT large Santos & Blue DJ41 fluted/jubilee. Purchased both back in 2020. Santos all of a sudden stopped and would not wind even manually. Cartier tried to charge me for a broken main plate (due to abuse) but I strongly insisted to cover under warranty as there is clearly no neglect done to the Santos as it barely had any scratches even on the bezel. Now fixed and probably one of the favorites in my collection. Very versatile as I also have several gator and calf straps. At the end of the day, I still find myself grabbing the blue DJ more from my case. That blue sunburst is just icing to the jubilee and fluted bezel combo :)
@monarchtimepiececollection
@monarchtimepiececollection Жыл бұрын
Yea tbh I feel like if I would’ve gone with a black dial and jubilee band I would’ve loved my datejust even more. Though recently I tried on a 41 wimbeldon two tone rose gold on a jubilee and instantly fell in love. The jubilee band has to be my favorite bracelet so far. I love the datejust but it’s just become too common in my space to where it kind of takes away from the experience If that makes sense (not to come across in a bad way) but you kinda wanna feel like your watch is a little special and not too common at times. But thank you for your comment!
@hansmaristela7182
@hansmaristela7182 Ай бұрын
Did you get it from a Cartier boutique or from an AD? Quite brazen of them to try and charge you for something that’s still covered under warranty.
@paulofernandes2680
@paulofernandes2680 Жыл бұрын
I have to agree with you, as i have matured in this hobby i don't want the same pieces that wanted when i started. I spend more time looking for interesting pieces that have history but are not necessarily in the mainstream. I tried on a Santos this summer and i have to say it's a beautiful piece with a rich history, I want the WSSA0037. It has a second rubber strap with the classic rivet design, sporty but still office worth i think as a daily wear. new to your channel but now subscribed continue the good work.
@monarchtimepiececollection
@monarchtimepiececollection Жыл бұрын
Thank you! Greatly appreciate the comment, feedback, and subscription. I love that Cartier reference. The bezel and dial are a bit stealthier but the polished numerals and hands still give it a classy appeal. Definitely a watch that’ll cause a double look. And yes, as far as expanding and not walking down the common path of Rolex hype you learn to appreciate and desire unique design and history that deserves to be brought into the spotlight. Thanks again!
@tyarnold4088
@tyarnold4088 8 ай бұрын
They are both a winner. Both classics. You can't go wrong with these.
@monarchtimepiececollection
@monarchtimepiececollection 8 ай бұрын
I agree!
@hansmaristela7182
@hansmaristela7182 Ай бұрын
I love my Rolex Datejust 40, but not enough to hold on to it. I gave it to my younger sister. I’m getting the Cartier Santos (medium) but in the white dial.
@monarchtimepiececollection
@monarchtimepiececollection Ай бұрын
Very nice. I’m sure you won’t regret it. The santos is another level of uniqueness, class, and quality that most Rolex models won’t give you. Enjoy it! IMO the medium size is the perfect size/dimensions for the santos
@pastre999
@pastre999 Жыл бұрын
One thing that surprised me is how this watch appreciates in value . I bought one last Oct for £6750. I had a look today and it’s now worth £7700! It went up by almost a grand in 6 months !!
@monarchtimepiececollection
@monarchtimepiececollection Жыл бұрын
Yup! It’s a nice feeling knowing most of your money is safe when buying watches and an even better feeling when they appreciate in value. People can say what they want about watch buying and the whole process, but at the end of the day it is always going to be on the back of our minds and influence our decision making when finally pulling the trigger on a watch we’ve been contemplating on. Thank you for the comment!
@craigk.5823
@craigk.5823 Жыл бұрын
Very nice that you display the watches properly, crown side down.
@monarchtimepiececollection
@monarchtimepiececollection Жыл бұрын
Real recognizes real 😎 thanks man!
@bade0729
@bade0729 Жыл бұрын
I have rolexes. Juniors and a 36. Just added a Large Santos yesterday!!! I love it’s sexiness on my tiny wrists!! Some are saying that a medium would be better, but i love my large!
@monarchtimepiececollection
@monarchtimepiececollection Жыл бұрын
Nice! Yea the santos is a stunning watch. The santos I’m wearing in the video is actually my wife’s. She probably has like a 5in wrist but she prefers the oversized aesthetic too!
@SamuzPro
@SamuzPro Жыл бұрын
Love your wrist scenes 😍
@monarchtimepiececollection
@monarchtimepiececollection Жыл бұрын
Dang thank you!
@GrodDs
@GrodDs Жыл бұрын
I got a black datejust and a white seamaster. Wanted a blue santos, but the large seem big for me (6.5 inch wrist). So now that we got a medium in blue ill be jumping to get one soon. Great video
@monarchtimepiececollection
@monarchtimepiececollection Жыл бұрын
The medium santos fit me a bit better than the large but they did not have the blue dial when I got mine. It is such a great watch.
@jamahlhumbertjr.5647
@jamahlhumbertjr.5647 9 ай бұрын
Love the santos!! So clean & unique
@wavygoods877
@wavygoods877 2 ай бұрын
Agreed. I also think (depending on the bracelet) the santos will age a lot better than a day date as well.
@monarchtimepiececollection
@monarchtimepiececollection 2 ай бұрын
I think so too
@MyVideosWillCalmU
@MyVideosWillCalmU Жыл бұрын
I already commented before when you stated you wore it to a wedding. I think it was your channel, I maybe wrong. But as i said on that video i got the same Santos. And you definitely made the right choice absolutely stunning piece, one of my favourites. And i would be parting with the date just too if that was my decision. In fact i done exactly that, Just before you in 2021.🤣
@monarchtimepiececollection
@monarchtimepiececollection Жыл бұрын
Haha you did! I couldn’t agree more. The santos is a statement. The datejust is just following the crowd.
@LittleJohn-vw3di
@LittleJohn-vw3di Жыл бұрын
Can't agree with you more. I own a Rolex DateJust 36mm two tone Ref. 116233 for more than 10 years and enjoyed it in all different occasions until I bought Santos de Cartier 2 months ago. The one I had is a mid size two tone version with a white dial. Same as you, this size fits the wrists of both my wife and I well. I found myself wearing Santos more over the last 2 months than my Rolex DateJust and other Rolex tool watches, it is the one watch fits all different events, formal or casual. Both watches are classic but Santos de Cartier is just so different with its heritage design and traditional Cartier language, especially with its rich history behind how it was born - probably the first wrist watch and pilot watch in the history of watchmaking!
@monarchtimepiececollection
@monarchtimepiececollection Жыл бұрын
Yea man the santos is unique and it’s bold design makes it stand apart from everything else. Both are great watches but if I only could wear one it would be the santos
@davidteems7935
@davidteems7935 Жыл бұрын
I'm thinking about getting one as well the new one to 2022 with the blue Bezel and I know they come in large and I'm a small guy as well I'm thinking I should go to the store and see if they have one one a large one and see how it fits on me the way you sound it sounds like it will still work and look good
@monarchtimepiececollection
@monarchtimepiececollection Жыл бұрын
Yes I would definitely recommend going into the store and trying it on. I have a 6.3 inch wrist and personally I feel as if the watch is on the larger size of what I am used to wearing but it’s gorgeous.. you’re gonna love it
@AshR976
@AshR976 Жыл бұрын
Nice choice, if you get some straps as santos so easy to change, maybe navy strap would be 🔥
@monarchtimepiececollection
@monarchtimepiececollection Жыл бұрын
Thank you! I’m really like in the new rubber strap that comes on the new pvd santos! I think it would make it the perfect everyday sport watch.
@bigrontbone6417
@bigrontbone6417 11 ай бұрын
Santos is classic. Classy. Like the 911 🚘
@monarchtimepiececollection
@monarchtimepiececollection 11 ай бұрын
Couldn’t agree more! I had the privilege of having a 911 a few years ago. It was a dream being able to drive that everyday.
@fabfour289
@fabfour289 11 ай бұрын
Cartier should make the 'ML' version with 38.0 x 45.4 mm dimension to entertain the goldilocks 39-40mm round watch equivalent. Thanks for the vid, man.
@monarchtimepiececollection
@monarchtimepiececollection 11 ай бұрын
Thanks man! I think Cartier released a medium sized santos with blue and green dial that are time only if that’s the size you’re talking about. I would’ve gotten the medium size if that watch would’ve been available when I got mine. It wears a bit larger than I’d prefer but nonetheless it’s an amazing watch
@bhmth
@bhmth Жыл бұрын
I have the same Santos and it's my daily now. Other similar watches from Rolex, GS, and others never stood a chance and have been sold.
@monarchtimepiececollection
@monarchtimepiececollection Жыл бұрын
Couldn’t agree with you more! Nothing classier than a santos imo
@trinity3422
@trinity3422 Жыл бұрын
The movements “might” be better in the Datejust, but aesthetically the Cartier Santos is a winner imo. They both have a lot of history as well though. Both great watches and a good comparison video! I’ve worn my Omega SMP Diver white dial with a rubber strap lately and think the Aqua Terra is a good alternative to the Datejust
@monarchtimepiececollection
@monarchtimepiececollection Жыл бұрын
It is!! And thank you for the comment! I greatly appreciate it
@michaelgalanos981
@michaelgalanos981 Жыл бұрын
Rolex for better value but if you don’t care then the Santos is a nice piece I wish they had put a better movement in it for the price but Cartier is a Jewellery Brand mostly so for me I would just go for the Tank Must XL and not worry about the scratches because the Santos is going to look like you know if you wear it often not really worth the money 💰
@micaljimenez7381
@micaljimenez7381 2 ай бұрын
I love both,i worn a santos automatjque years ago,it was great,very eficient acuracy,elegant and perfect to wear everyday,only problem the strap open all the time alone...after i worn a rolex airking 34mm,super nice too,perfect acuracy,problem again with the strap who open quickly...but the best is to have the 2...if you can,look so diferent ,perfect collection,dont need any more...
@rogerparis
@rogerparis Жыл бұрын
Santos all the way, love mine.
@monarchtimepiececollection
@monarchtimepiececollection Жыл бұрын
Hell yea! The santos beats the datejust any day
@MrPleers
@MrPleers 2 ай бұрын
Going for a Santos as well. But with a white dial. In medium without the date complication.
@monarchtimepiececollection
@monarchtimepiececollection 2 ай бұрын
Excellent configuration! That to me is probably the most classic Santos
@FutureXXD
@FutureXXD 2 ай бұрын
I just recently purchased a Cartier Santos blue face. And i feel much happier with it than when i was purchasing my new OP Rolex. 😂
@monarchtimepiececollection
@monarchtimepiececollection 2 ай бұрын
Great taste 🤌🏼🤌🏼
@sergiogarcia9822
@sergiogarcia9822 11 ай бұрын
I have both, a Santos large green dial and a datejust 41 two tone jubilee/smooth, the design of the santos is beautiful but the datejust feels like a tank and I have no issues getting my DJ41 to the pool, something that I would not do with the santos. I do have submariner date 2022 so I do have the pool watch covered from that side as well.
@monarchtimepiececollection
@monarchtimepiececollection 11 ай бұрын
Sounds like a solid collection! Tbh I’ve gotten into the pool with my santos as I hardly ever even go below 10ft lol but that’s me. I don’t dive into the pool or horse around too much. I pretty much just chill but if I was gonna go some scuba diving or serious water activities I’d definitely go in with my sub no doubt about it. But I guess it’s about having a watch for the everyday activities we do that makes the santos a better choice for me than the datejust IMO
@dgdave2673
@dgdave2673 Жыл бұрын
Aah 😱, mu OCD kicked in when the seconds hands on these watches aren’t matched for time ! 😅
@Smclaugh08
@Smclaugh08 Жыл бұрын
What's your opinion on gold with the grey dial adv bezel im torn because acratches drive me crazy
@monarchtimepiececollection
@monarchtimepiececollection Жыл бұрын
I’m not too sure which watch you’re referring to. Is it the gold santos dumont? If it’s any santos then yes, the bezel will get scratched but honestly it’s worth it. The hairlines are barely noticeable but the hard deep scratches will pop up. Overall the design of the watch is amazing and small signs of wear give it some edginess to it and you can always polish it which shouldn’t cost too much thankfully
@fredvandevelde4576
@fredvandevelde4576 Жыл бұрын
I have both, but my Datejust is 50 years old, daily wear, looks brand new keeps perfect time, waterproof, not ostentatious, most people would not even know it is a Rolex. But people who know pick up on it. The Cartier is very much a dress watch, beautiful in every respect. but would not stand up to the rigors of an everyday watch and be easily scratched or damaged.
@cesarrocha3138
@cesarrocha3138 Жыл бұрын
I was between the santos large and dj azzurro, but ended up with the VC 56. Couldn’t be happier
@monarchtimepiececollection
@monarchtimepiececollection Жыл бұрын
Oooooofffffff excellent choice…did you get it with the blue dial?? I think that is by far one of the most under appreciated watches made by VC! I love it on the navy blue leather strap. It’s extremely elegant and unique. Such a great watch!
@cesarrocha3138
@cesarrocha3138 Жыл бұрын
@@monarchtimepiececollection thanks man! It wasn’t easy as I love Santos and it’s like 2x the price. Got silver dial, after trying them both I was amazed by the sunburst effects more than the mate blue.
@monarchtimepiececollection
@monarchtimepiececollection Жыл бұрын
@@cesarrocha3138 that’s awesome man! I don’t think I’ve ever seen the silver dial before but I’m sure it’s incredible
@monarchtimepiececollection
@monarchtimepiececollection Жыл бұрын
@@cesarrocha3138 send a pic of it to the Instagram so o can feature it if you get a chance or have an IG!
@MastinoNapoletano420
@MastinoNapoletano420 Жыл бұрын
For the price, I love the Santos! My local AD has one with a blue dial that I really want to get! Great video! Thanks for sharing!
@monarchtimepiececollection
@monarchtimepiececollection Жыл бұрын
It’s a great watch for the price! You should get it! I know there’s some being sold for under retail but tbh it’s a better option overall compared to other watches at the same price point! And thank you!
@ultimatedouchebag6760
@ultimatedouchebag6760 Жыл бұрын
I rather buy a Cartier than a Rolex.....spend your money on companies that cares about you.
@monarchtimepiececollection
@monarchtimepiececollection Жыл бұрын
Exactly. The service at Cartier has always been a top tier luxury experience. Rolex salespeople just caters to whoever has spent the most in the stores
@blake70505
@blake70505 Жыл бұрын
You are sooooo right.
@monarchtimepiececollection
@monarchtimepiececollection Жыл бұрын
Why thank you my good man
@nathrezim3703
@nathrezim3703 Жыл бұрын
You rock the blue dial
@monarchtimepiececollection
@monarchtimepiececollection Жыл бұрын
No, YOU rock..thank you!
@ChuchuJS
@ChuchuJS 10 ай бұрын
I got a datejust and a santos , no winner for me love them both
@dekeyserdekes373
@dekeyserdekes373 6 ай бұрын
IMHO that’s a weird datejust configuration. Oyster bracelet, fluted bezel, white with Roman numerals, so I prefer the Santos. I love that you went with the large since it spoke to you
@monarchtimepiececollection
@monarchtimepiececollection 6 ай бұрын
Yea in hindsight I really regret not getting a different configuration on the DJ. Should’ve gone with a black it blue dial in jubilee but oh well. Either way I think I still prefer the santos over any DJ
@alaindeleon5417
@alaindeleon5417 Жыл бұрын
Cartier is 100% class and i love it although under the hood Rolex is still better, Cartier prices are skyrocketing very fast and i think they price their watches somehow in an incoherent way, Ronde must or Tank XL vs Santos Large $3,200 price difference for the same caliber, Santos Large vs Santos Skeleton $22,650 difference, both S.S. but different Caliber of course
@monarchtimepiececollection
@monarchtimepiececollection Жыл бұрын
I agree but to be honest for the the most part the movements coming out of most brands are reliable and accurate for our daily use. Brands like Rolex, AP, Omega, and Patek make astonishing movements, but the in house movements from Cartier and Oris are good as well. Yes, not to the same caliber as the brands mentioned before, but for the average person’s daily use I think they’re sufficient. That’s why, for me, I think it comes down to the design of the watch that really sets it apart and the Santos is just a classier watch and more unique when compared to the datejust.
@StrallyMan
@StrallyMan 10 ай бұрын
Thinking of trading my 36mm stainless steel datejust with diamond bezel for a bust down XL santos with leather strap. Worth it?
@monarchtimepiececollection
@monarchtimepiececollection 10 ай бұрын
If diamonds are your thing then yes. Cartier actually makes a santos with a diamond bezel if you want something a bit cleaner than full bust down bezel and case
@Josh_3165
@Josh_3165 Жыл бұрын
Which would u buy the Santos vs the Ballon Bleu w Black Leather Strap
@monarchtimepiececollection
@monarchtimepiececollection Жыл бұрын
Santos hands down all the way without hesitation. The BB isn’t exactly my style tbh but to each their own. The santos is damn near perfect
@Josh_3165
@Josh_3165 Жыл бұрын
@@monarchtimepiececollection I'm just concerned about the scratches on the Santos
@monarchtimepiececollection
@monarchtimepiececollection Жыл бұрын
@@Josh_3165 i’m not going to lie. The scratching of the bezel is a problem. The new Santos came out with a PVD bezel that is scratch resistant, but i still prefer the model i have.
@Big_H2
@Big_H2 Ай бұрын
I have the Black Bay 41 Manufacture Calibre MT5601 as my daily wear, like the clean look with the beautiful blue dial and 5 link jubilee bracelet, don't mind it getting trashed around but I really want to get my hands on a Large Cartier SANTOS DE CARTIER. It's literally an objective I must get my hands on one, but when I do get to that point I'm unsure on whether I should get the white dial which is the classic and just right look for the watch or a blue dial because all my other watches I have are all blue dial and I just have a clear likeness for a blue dial watch. Appreciate anyone with any suggestions.
@monarchtimepiececollection
@monarchtimepiececollection Ай бұрын
Highly recommend getting a santos. I prefer the blue dial on the large model honestly because it has a sunburn effect to it, the markers are applied and it looks a bit sleeker with the contrast of the stainless steel and blue dial. The white dial is elegant and on the brown strap it comes with will be an even more versatile watch. I put the santos on a blue rubber strap and it was the perfect tweak to it for it to be a daily wearer. The white dial looks a bit too flat for me imo
@Big_H2
@Big_H2 Ай бұрын
@@monarchtimepiececollection Appreciate the response and feedback mate! And thank you for the input.
@monarchtimepiececollection
@monarchtimepiececollection Ай бұрын
@@Big_H2 of course! More than happy to help
@federicopedata2950
@federicopedata2950 Ай бұрын
Santos for sure but I think the better size is the medium
@monarchtimepiececollection
@monarchtimepiececollection Ай бұрын
I agree. The medium size has better proportions. At the time they didn’t have the blue dial in the medium but now that they do I kinda wish I could have it in the medium size
@koskara1314
@koskara1314 Жыл бұрын
Both are beautiful; as well as, both are different
@monarchtimepiececollection
@monarchtimepiececollection Жыл бұрын
Yes indeed
@rafaeloliva6425
@rafaeloliva6425 18 күн бұрын
I own both i have the 2 tone Santos large and a DJ41 with Azzuro bkue dial. The price points not being equal aside. They are equally beautiful and Amazing watches. The Datejust you compare to the Santos is the least attractive and desirable in the ROLEX collection.
@chrisgrieves1468
@chrisgrieves1468 Жыл бұрын
Nicely done video! Santos - individual and gorgeous. Datejust - dull and common. EASY win for the Santos, although for me it's the Medium.
@monarchtimepiececollection
@monarchtimepiececollection Жыл бұрын
I agree!! The medium fits my wrist so much better but man that blue dial is something else. I might just get the medium too to have in the collection. Maybe two tone??
@chrisgrieves1468
@chrisgrieves1468 Жыл бұрын
@@monarchtimepiececollection The two-tone looks great but soft gold on a scratch-magnet bezel - if you wear it with mostly long sleeve shirts, all good!
@monarchtimepiececollection
@monarchtimepiececollection Жыл бұрын
@@chrisgrieves1468 yea I agree! I tend to be extremely careful with my watches, but who knows, I’ll see what I replace my datejust with. any recommendations?? I’m caught between the omega AT, Nomos club, or vacheron 56 but I can’t decide
@chrisgrieves1468
@chrisgrieves1468 Жыл бұрын
@@monarchtimepiececollection Oh, I've had a VC 56 on my wrist and it's gorgeous. But I have a Grand Seiko SBGA 373 and I can't say well enough about it. Kills a DJ (I've had an OP) and you have a lot of hand-finishing as well. You feel the care that went into it when you wear that watch. And the mesmerising sweep of the second hand. Special. I like it better on a shell cordovan strap though. Bracelet better than its rep but the watch pops on a strap.
@monarchtimepiececollection
@monarchtimepiececollection Жыл бұрын
@@chrisgrieves1468 damn I gotta look into grand Seiko models because I’m not too familiar with their references. I think they’re a great brand and the finishing is top tier. Great recommendation!
@jamahlhumbertjr.5647
@jamahlhumbertjr.5647 22 күн бұрын
Love the santos !
@PabloTBrave
@PabloTBrave 10 ай бұрын
"Better" is subjective based on criteria chosen , and the weighting on them . For me i much prefer the Santos . Ignoring the merits of the watch more and more im thinking the typical Rolex owners are like audi drivers .
@Kciroy
@Kciroy Жыл бұрын
The only Rolex i've ever liked is a Datejust with fluted bezel or Day-Date. But i've noticed my taste likes to go to less common pieces like the Cartier Santos. I don't care about "investment watches" or even watches that will profit/hold value.
@monarchtimepiececollection
@monarchtimepiececollection Жыл бұрын
Exactly. You get it. It’s not all about getting the flashiest piece you can get for the money or brand recognition, but instead, having that confidence in your taste and choice to get whatever tf you want and wearing it and not being like everyone else. Thank you for the comment! Greatly appreciate it
@monarchtimepiececollection
@monarchtimepiececollection Жыл бұрын
Exactly. You get it. It’s not all about getting the flashiest piece you can get for the money or brand recognition, but instead, having that confidence in your taste and choice to get whatever tf you want and wearing it and not being like everyone else. Thank you for the comment! Greatly appreciate it
@Kciroy
@Kciroy Жыл бұрын
@@monarchtimepiececollection Forsure! I don't know what my specific taste is or what to call it but i always seems to look outside the box. Like a Cartier Santos, JLC Reverso or even a Christopher Ward Bel Canto. My Grail watch is the Ketelaars 3D terra in motion though since i love independants
@monarchtimepiececollection
@monarchtimepiececollection Жыл бұрын
@@Kciroy man that bel canto is something else. I would die for a black dial. Absolute class
@Kciroy
@Kciroy Жыл бұрын
@@monarchtimepiececollection You can pre-order the 4 new color dial version of the Bel Canto now and there's a black dial one. I'm more looking at the Rosa dial myself
@carlosbcn2020
@carlosbcn2020 9 ай бұрын
Is it still made with an ETA movement like my Santos 100 ??
@monarchtimepiececollection
@monarchtimepiececollection 9 ай бұрын
Nope I believe it has an in-house made movement
@rajmehta6210
@rajmehta6210 Жыл бұрын
Considering the medium Santos
@monarchtimepiececollection
@monarchtimepiececollection Жыл бұрын
Do. It.
@rajmehta6210
@rajmehta6210 Жыл бұрын
@@monarchtimepiececollection thanks pal appreciate your thoughts and videos. I Think it will work as an everyday steel piece. I have a two tone CHNR but I think the santos will work better for a daily
@monarchtimepiececollection
@monarchtimepiececollection Жыл бұрын
@@rajmehta6210 absolutely
@j.kimmer1509
@j.kimmer1509 5 ай бұрын
Santos Large only bro. the medium is too girly no matter the wrist size... you chose the correct size..it looks boss.
@monarchtimepiececollection
@monarchtimepiececollection 5 ай бұрын
Thanks bud! I added it onto the Cartier rubber strap and I think it’s the perfect watch for me
@BIG2hats
@BIG2hats Жыл бұрын
I disagree about the DJ, I think it’s one of the best Rolex models overall regardless of their more exclusive models. I don’t think it’s worth comparing to a Tutor or Seiko.
@monarchtimepiececollection
@monarchtimepiececollection Жыл бұрын
Thank you for your comment! I do love the datejust, but it’s becoming a bit too common for me, and it’s almost becoming difficult for me to even justify wearing it. It is a beautiful and classic watch though.
@galaman12001
@galaman12001 Жыл бұрын
I’ll take the Santos over the datejust, but I’ll take the explorer II over the santos. I do own a Santos PVD blue dial and the Explorer II (ref.226570, black dial)
@monarchtimepiececollection
@monarchtimepiececollection Жыл бұрын
The explorer II is a great watch, but it is very sporty. I actually prefer the black dial over the white dial. Santos and explorer sounds like a good set up!
@user-lv8gz9cu5w
@user-lv8gz9cu5w 5 ай бұрын
Santos is beautiful but we’re comparing just a plain date just, what about a Wimbledon ect ..
@monarchtimepiececollection
@monarchtimepiececollection 5 ай бұрын
Wimbeldon is a nicer option for a DJ but overall the DJ is just so common versus a santos that looks a little nicer and not as common
@user-mp5ww2bt7q
@user-mp5ww2bt7q 5 күн бұрын
I hare santos, the only square watch that looks good is a JAEGER-LECOULTRE REVERSO CLASSIC DUOFACE SMALL SECONDS
@bigrontbone6417
@bigrontbone6417 11 ай бұрын
Also is your wedding ring Cartier ?? Beautiful combination then
@monarchtimepiececollection
@monarchtimepiececollection 11 ай бұрын
Hi yes it is! Well at least it was before it was stolen. Need to replace it with another love ring. My wife and I got matching wedding bands
@sabeaniebaby
@sabeaniebaby Жыл бұрын
Santos is my grail. All the way!!! I don't know you; I've never seen any other video of yours, so I'll have some fun and predict your next watch to be ... a Junghans. No, a Christopher Ward Acquatain.
@monarchtimepiececollection
@monarchtimepiececollection Жыл бұрын
I love Christopher Ward!! Well I guess you’ll have to subscribe to stay tuned to find out then!
@mkyhou1160
@mkyhou1160 9 ай бұрын
I wanted to like the Santos, but anytime I tried it on, it just didn’t look good. The only Cartier I liked was the Americane - a bit more like a reverso in proportion. DJ is a classic GADA.
@daniell2217
@daniell2217 Жыл бұрын
I get that you’re advocating a position here, but the suggestions that the DJ has a problem sliding under a cuff and that it lacks versatility are going a bit too far. I’m in a suit&tie 5 days a week. Never a fit or comfort problem w/a DJ. As for versatility, I’m not sure what more you want a DJ to do. SS case and bracelet, 100m WR, timeless design, beautiful dial colors…as easy to wear in the boardroom as at a BBQ. Don’t get me wrong, the Cartier has a lot to recommend itself…a lot…but, let’s not get carried away.
@Yano_2323
@Yano_2323 Жыл бұрын
Cartier for the Win 🥇
@runcoweezrun8143
@runcoweezrun8143 10 ай бұрын
Did Alberto ask for a Cabochon Stone on the Santos or was Cartier trying to play King Louis XVIII?
@monarchtimepiececollection
@monarchtimepiececollection 10 ай бұрын
…..I’m not picking up what you’re putting down Chief
@runcoweezrun8143
@runcoweezrun8143 10 ай бұрын
@@monarchtimepiececollection it was just a question that santos experts should know the answer to
@monarchtimepiececollection
@monarchtimepiececollection 10 ай бұрын
@@runcoweezrun8143 sounds interesting tidbit of information. I’ll look into it!
@runcoweezrun8143
@runcoweezrun8143 10 ай бұрын
@@monarchtimepiececollection Thank you Sir!
@metro2171
@metro2171 Жыл бұрын
Both watches aesthetically has their respective merits however the datejust is an icon and a winner every time . What’s up with that poor power reserve Of 42 hours on the santos .
@monarchtimepiececollection
@monarchtimepiececollection Жыл бұрын
True. The datejust is iconic, but for me the santos is just a bit better from a stylistic standpoint. It just an appealing design to me and it’s not as common as a datejust. The 42hr power reserve isn’t a factor for me. Just means I get to wind and set the watch a bit more frequently. Doesn’t take more than a minute to do and I enjoy winding my watches. Personally power reserve and water resistance don’t matter to me too much because I’m not diving to find treasure down in the titanic, and or climbing Everest that I’ll need a watch with a power reserve for x days. At the end of the day those two features of the watch aren’t too important in the grand scheme of things. Style, design, and uniqueness are more important for me which makes the santos the winner
@metro2171
@metro2171 Жыл бұрын
The santos is just as ubiquitous as the date just, like I said they are both great watches and it all comes down to taste and preference . The datejust is a better watch in terms of history, functionality, robustness and value retention . That why so many buyers love and purchase them .
@monarchtimepiececollection
@monarchtimepiececollection Жыл бұрын
@@metro2171 true. I can’t argue that more people end up getting the datejust. But having something in your collection that isn’t as common is a plus overall. It’s good to not be afraid to stand out from the crowd every now and then, but yes on paper the Rolex is a better “buy”
@sergiogarcia9822
@sergiogarcia9822 11 ай бұрын
Oh, you just mentioned quality, any of my 2020 or newer Rolexes have a better built quality than my santos, any Rolex even 36mm ones feel like a tank and the screw down crown is a big plus, no question.
@monarchtimepiececollection
@monarchtimepiececollection 11 ай бұрын
Yea I agree. The quality in the datejust is a bit better in that regard along with the sturdiness of the case, but overall I think the santos is great for the everyday wear to the office/casual events, etc. If it comes down to spelunking, diving, and jumping out of airplanes then I’d say the Rolex is probably the safer buy lol
@sergiogarcia9822
@sergiogarcia9822 11 ай бұрын
@@monarchtimepiececollection completely agree, best case scenario is to have the santos and the datejust, if money allows, now to enjoy my honeymoon period with my santos, if you ever get a panerai luminor I’d be very interested in your opinion, I am aiming at one for my next purchase to add some variety to my collection, cheers!
@monarchtimepiececollection
@monarchtimepiececollection 11 ай бұрын
@@sergiogarcia9822 yea I’ve always wanted to try on a Panerai but the opportunity hasn’t come up though. Would love to review one some day!
@anibaluriarte3676
@anibaluriarte3676 Жыл бұрын
Cartier-scratches easily , it is a love or hate it, service hyperexpensive , parts super expensive , bracelet or strap expensive , service network not so good, quality is a little bit lower , the caliber is good but far away from Rollie, second hand watches are very storm treated watches. Rolex- keeps price , caliber reliable, service network very good and high standard , steel is very good , scratches hardly , the rolex community is huge the price is what you get , if you buy it new it is exactly what they are promising chrono etc etc
@monarchtimepiececollection
@monarchtimepiececollection Жыл бұрын
All very, very good points! My favorite being the “Rolex community is a huge price is what you get” haha spot on. But I agree with you with pretty much everything you state, with that being stated…I have to ask (because I frankly do not know), but how often are Cartier watches having quality issues with their parts and movements? I have found them to be well made for the most part thay those expenses hardly ever come up that straps are faulty or break and need to be replaced. The movements have always been good since they were previously made by JLC and now are in house and are doing well from what I know. That being the case I feel like when it comes down to it that $8.5-9k for a datejust seems a bit much to justify it for me. The metal may easier scratch on a Cartier but that $2-4k difference is where you can get it polished to look brand new and continue to stand out in a room filled with flutted bezels, cyclops lenses, and stand out from the crowd imo
@DWilliam1
@DWilliam1 Жыл бұрын
I’ve owned a DJ since 1994 and also own a 39mm Explorer. The Rolex service is very expensive and you have to wait to get it back from Switzerland. I bought the large Santos 6 months ago and got a 10 year warranty. The newer Rolex movement is better than the Cartier but in terms of fit, finish and quality there is no difference.
@musiclover4311
@musiclover4311 6 ай бұрын
Absolutely. Santos is the winner.
@monarchtimepiececollection
@monarchtimepiececollection 6 ай бұрын
Couldn’t agree more!
@andrekesarisingh2563
@andrekesarisingh2563 Жыл бұрын
I think the datejust is timeless and to me a more decerning piece. I feel the Santos is too bulky to be a true dress watch. Plus the Rolex has superiour build quality and movement and holds its value better.. thanks for sharing!
@monarchtimepiececollection
@monarchtimepiececollection Жыл бұрын
Thank you for the comment! The DJ is a classic watch and yes without a doubt better build quality but the santos is just as good in quality. The santos is surprisingly thinner than the DJ. The squared case does make it wear a bit larger to some degree but the thinness of the case helps it wear very easily. Thank you for commenting!
@DWilliam1
@DWilliam1 Жыл бұрын
I own both and the Santos performs better as a dress watch.
@monarchtimepiececollection
@monarchtimepiececollection Жыл бұрын
@@DWilliam1 couldn’t agree more
@antslim168
@antslim168 6 ай бұрын
Santos all day, but white dial
@samaelmorgenstern8065
@samaelmorgenstern8065 Жыл бұрын
"Cardi Aye"
@monarchtimepiececollection
@monarchtimepiececollection Жыл бұрын
😂 I’ve heard like 5 different pronunciations of it at this point I just didn’t want to sound like I was having a stroke
@drew4021
@drew4021 6 ай бұрын
My grail would be a blue dial Santos in 18k but alas I do not believe Cartier offers this as yet.
@monarchtimepiececollection
@monarchtimepiececollection 6 ай бұрын
That color and precious metal combination would look insane. Or a rose gold and a blue dial would be crazy
@marcusedcofficial
@marcusedcofficial 7 ай бұрын
If only the medium had a date window
@monarchtimepiececollection
@monarchtimepiececollection 7 ай бұрын
I know! That’s all it’s missing. But still I think the symmetry of a no date dial is also a win
@marcusedcofficial
@marcusedcofficial 7 ай бұрын
@monarchtimepiececollection absolutely! I find the date window as a must more so because of its function over aesthetics. But in the case of a dress watch, it definitely works. Thanks for responding!
@monarchtimepiececollection
@monarchtimepiececollection 7 ай бұрын
@@marcusedcofficial I agree. The date function is the best complication a watch can have. Especially as a daily. It’s very practical. And of course bud thank you for watching and commenting!
@caioronnau5226
@caioronnau5226 Жыл бұрын
I can't imagine your wife wearing a 40mm square watch. She must have huge wrists
@monarchtimepiececollection
@monarchtimepiececollection Жыл бұрын
On the contrary, she has tiny wrists. She prefers the way a larger watch looks on her. I tried to persuade her to get a small Cartier tank but she didn’t like how dainty it looked on her. She preferred the larger aesthetic of the santos
@suhailpatla8334
@suhailpatla8334 Жыл бұрын
Price of this Cartier
@monarchtimepiececollection
@monarchtimepiececollection Жыл бұрын
Depending on where you look you can find it brand new under retail 😎 if you’re interested let me know and send me a DM on Instagram!
@isaacchassman6453
@isaacchassman6453 5 ай бұрын
I got my GIRL a Cartier, myself a datejust
@fabfour289
@fabfour289 Жыл бұрын
What s your wrist size? 17 cm perhaps..
@monarchtimepiececollection
@monarchtimepiececollection Жыл бұрын
14.3 cm 😅
@fabfour289
@fabfour289 Жыл бұрын
@@monarchtimepiececollection wow... thought your Cartier is the Large one. Tks for the vid, man.
@monarchtimepiececollection
@monarchtimepiececollection Жыл бұрын
@@fabfour289 hi yes it is the large model. The medium size blue dial is time only and was only recently released in 2023. I have a 2022 model large in the blue dial that has a time and date complication. It fits a little large but I love it. Thank you for the comment I greatly appreciate it!
@stephenlee5425
@stephenlee5425 2 ай бұрын
@@monarchtimepiececollection Really?? Are you sure you measured it correctly ?? It looks at least 16cm to me.
@monarchtimepiececollection
@monarchtimepiececollection 2 ай бұрын
@@stephenlee5425 tape measured says 17cm boss
@arnaudjulien5831
@arnaudjulien5831 Жыл бұрын
of course Cartier de Santos. It looks much better on you then Rolex......
@monarchtimepiececollection
@monarchtimepiececollection Жыл бұрын
Thank you!
@musclemania332
@musclemania332 6 ай бұрын
Datejust all the way
@davidhunternyc1
@davidhunternyc1 Ай бұрын
The Cartier Santos is an iconic beauty but I would not buy one. Why? Because the Santos is very scratch prone, especially on the high polished bezel. Cartier knows about this flaw and refuses to fix it, meanwhile, KZfaqrs keep making excuses for the flawed and subpar metal casing. Silver colored watches, such as stainless steel and titanium, are the defacto metal of choice. Why, in 2024, aren't manufacturers making "scratch-proof" watches? There are PVD coatings and nomenclatures like 316L steel, super titanium, TinSkin 3.0, and platinum encasements. A company as profitable and well funded as Cartier has no excuse for making watches that are scratch prone. Invest a little R&D and fix this problem. It's not just a Cartier problem, but most luxury watchmakers don't put in the effort to ensure their watches are "scratch-proof" or as scratch resistant as possible. It's a shame. For this reason alone I would never buy a Cartier Santos. Profits above all. So what are the most scratch resistant metals? Tegiment steel and UltraHex titanium.
@monarchtimepiececollection
@monarchtimepiececollection Ай бұрын
Although that is true, and several company’s are making scratch resistant watches with newer materials, but Cartier does have a PVD santos now which imo is stunning. Along with there are newer santos models that have ceramic or pvd bezels to combat this pronation to scratches. Although I agree that the stainless steel isn’t as scratch proof as other materials, I believe brands still use it for its durability and versatility. I’m sure it’s cost effective and yields a greater return but overall I think it’s safe to say that most collectors prefer to have a SS watch in their collection opposed to other materials other than precious metals
@davidhunternyc1
@davidhunternyc1 Ай бұрын
@@monarchtimepiececollection Stainless steel is an umbrella term. There are stainless steels that prone to scratches and stainless steels that are not prone to scratches, as well as coatings too, which we've both mentioned. Having the bezel on a Cartier Santos scratched by something as innocuous as the cuff of your shirt is unforgivable.
@monarchtimepiececollection
@monarchtimepiececollection Ай бұрын
@@davidhunternyc1 you’re right. It is prone to being scratched by a fabric stitched shirt, but that shouldn’t stop you from getting it. Nothing a quick polish can’t remove. But if that factor robs you from enjoying the Watch to his full potential, I completely agree and understand. There are certain aspects to other watches that do not make them feasible for my collection or taste. It’s always to consider every factor when adding a watch to the collection and what they’re made of is something most don’t consider as much as they should
@brandondunkin8881
@brandondunkin8881 Жыл бұрын
Datejust is by far the winner for me
@monarchtimepiececollection
@monarchtimepiececollection Жыл бұрын
Both watches are amazing. The datejust and the santos are iconic, but I can’t help but prefer to have something most don’t.
@jonathanchambers7305
@jonathanchambers7305 Жыл бұрын
Cartier all day
@monarchtimepiececollection
@monarchtimepiececollection Жыл бұрын
Agreed 🤝🏼
@mike15.
@mike15. 28 күн бұрын
i get it... but bro also got the most boring datejust , so nobrainer the Cartier is better. i have the dj36 jubilee silver dial and ill never sell tbis watch..i consider buying a midsize blue santos as daily , cause im concerned the rolex gets attention of some robbers on the street
@monarchtimepiececollection
@monarchtimepiececollection 28 күн бұрын
@@mike15. I think the only DJ that has a solid contention to being a good configuration is a blue dial or a black dial. White, silver, grey, or grey just don’t look great on it. But even then I think the Santos is overall a better choice. If you gotta worry about a DJ being recognized and think what you have to do to avoid getting it stolen then that for me is enough of a reason to ruin the joy of wearing it. A santos is gonna get recognized as well. Thieves know watches better than most of us and need to be able to recognize pieces from all brands.
@courtpaul9334
@courtpaul9334 Жыл бұрын
I've been a huge fan of Cartier⌚however in this case the Rolex tops it in almost every category🏆
@Dino-kr9cb
@Dino-kr9cb 9 ай бұрын
Anything but a Rolex
@monarchtimepiececollection
@monarchtimepiececollection 9 ай бұрын
Starting to develop this mentality
@runcoweezrun8143
@runcoweezrun8143 10 ай бұрын
Neither Cartier not Rolex are even close to an Omega!
@monarchtimepiececollection
@monarchtimepiececollection 10 ай бұрын
I agree with you about the Rolex compared to an omega AT. I just got the new AT shades and I love it. I still kinda prefer the santos over the AT though
@runcoweezrun8143
@runcoweezrun8143 10 ай бұрын
@@monarchtimepiececollection well....to each his own
@gmgmontana4328
@gmgmontana4328 Жыл бұрын
the question is ? brand new cartier santos large or an old date just 36? CARTIER ALL DAY
@monarchtimepiececollection
@monarchtimepiececollection Жыл бұрын
Yessir!!!
@realwarriorscholar
@realwarriorscholar Жыл бұрын
Next? Casio! Just think of all the Casio’s you could buy with the Rolex cash 😂
@monarchtimepiececollection
@monarchtimepiececollection Жыл бұрын
I could make a thrown, crown, and sword out of Casios with the money from a datejust….I think you’re onto something bro. I’ll be the king of god tier watches. Nico would approve
@realwarriorscholar
@realwarriorscholar Жыл бұрын
@@monarchtimepiececollection You could consider a few Seiko modified watches. There are some stunning pieces out there!
@dadon3424
@dadon3424 10 ай бұрын
This guy is trying to hard to be different. When he said a Grand Seiko I immediately clicked off this video😂.
@wristroll_vlad
@wristroll_vlad Жыл бұрын
No it’s not. Sorry.
@monarchtimepiececollection
@monarchtimepiececollection Жыл бұрын
To each their own.
@Wvk5zc
@Wvk5zc Жыл бұрын
it is
@lucyfair9907
@lucyfair9907 3 ай бұрын
son you need to go back learning geometry and you will understand why rolex is better
@user-db2ob2jc2f
@user-db2ob2jc2f 3 ай бұрын
Neither! Rolex is a watch for overpaid Ball Players and Pimps. Santos has a Cabochon and can only be worn along with a Cartier Purse. Therefore, they are both FAILURES!
@PeterPaijuk
@PeterPaijuk Жыл бұрын
No way is the santos better the the most epic watch ever made aka datejust
@monarchtimepiececollection
@monarchtimepiececollection Жыл бұрын
Idk about labeling the datejust the most epic watch ever made Chief. It’s an iconic watch for sure and extremely well designed. On paper it’s a great watch, but it’s just so common. I see people with datejusts all the time that it takes away from the experience of owning one. It is a great watch, but aesthetically speaking, the santos blows it out of the water imo. Thank you for the comment!
@DWilliam1
@DWilliam1 Жыл бұрын
The Santos is the first sport wristwatch ever made and might be the first mass produced men’s wristwatch. That’s epic.
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