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The Science of Frothing Milk with Dr Helen Czerski

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Which is the best milk, and at what temperature, for maximum froth in your hot chocolate?
During the encore of our 24 hour show, Nine Lessons and Carols for Socially Distanced People, Dr Helen Czerski mentioned something about milk froth. Unbeknownst to us this started a conversation in the live chat and one viewer sent in a question about it to our Sunday Science Shambles Q&A show. They wrote, "At the Nine Lessons - The Encore show, you mentioned you did some milk frothing experiments. A few of us at the live chat got really excited. Would you be happy to share the details + findings with us? And maybe the science behind milk microfoam formation too?"
So instead of just answering the question during the show Helen decided the only way she could answer it properly would be to spend a month thinking about and then a weekend collecting data and doing a proper experiment. So here are the results and some of the science behind it.
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@John.0z
@John.0z 3 жыл бұрын
Ah, bubbles. Your thesis with yet another applications. Excellent.
@deanfielding4411
@deanfielding4411 3 жыл бұрын
I think I might need to repeat this experiment using a steam frother.
@johncoach14
@johncoach14 3 жыл бұрын
A 'steamer' would also introduce air as it works. Could you feed air into the milk a the same time as the 'whipping'? For yourself, just use a straw and blow a bit in as you whisk.
@nicholaskirwan4816
@nicholaskirwan4816 3 жыл бұрын
Loved it. What a way to spend a Sunday afternoon. Well done HC.
@AshArAis
@AshArAis 3 жыл бұрын
I had read that barista oat milk used sugar in place of protein to create foam, though your analysis says fat. I choose oat milk for health (less cholesterol), and at home I use the no added sugar even though it's less foam. It's still tasty, and when I get coffee at a shop the barista version is a nice treat! Thanks for doing the video
@superfluidity
@superfluidity 3 жыл бұрын
Very interesting video. I'm curious about how the air gets in using that frother, which looks like it's fully immersed as it works. Maybe it makes enough of a vortex to open itself to the air surface? Would be interesting to see what happens with other foam making methods like a cafetière or steam wand. Might be hard to make the steam wand technique precisely repeatable. And you can't photograph it so easily in a steal jug.
@Markle2k
@Markle2k 3 жыл бұрын
Remember that it costs a lot of water to make a single almond. About 1 gallon of water per almond of California water each, IIRC. That’s a huge environmental cost you are exporting to a very water sensitive area.
@AshArAis
@AshArAis 3 жыл бұрын
Firstly, the water requirements for cattle and their feed outstrips almonds, though they can live outside of places like California. Secondly it's why oat milk is such a beneficial invention, as oats are a big crop in a lot of places like rainy Ireland. Our local porridge company has branched into oat milk, so now it's supporting local business too. How local and seasonal a product is can make a big difference too.
@Markle2k
@Markle2k 3 жыл бұрын
@@AshArAis I'm not playing tit-vs-tat. Water requirement estimates for dairy vary widely. A university extension says 4.5 gallons of water for every gallon of milk. At the top of my search results, a vegan (it's not explicitly stated, but obvious through naked advocacy) website promoted by an almond farmer says it takes 55 gallons of water to make a single 8-ounce serving of cow's milk. Which would be 880 gallons of water per milk gallon. The university extension cites sources for their raw numbers and presents their calculations. They do not appear to be taking into account feed, just drinking water and water for farm operations (cleaning, equipment cooling, etc). The vegan site provides a lot of pretty infographics and the only sources they cite are the ones providing the numbers they are trying to debunk. The numbers of water use per almond are known from actual water use numbers by growers (carefully tracked here in California) and almond yield numbers (also carefully tracked). I'm only reviewing these two examples for cow's milk, but here's the university one: www.canr.msu.edu/news/water_use_on_dairy_farms#:~:text=Based%20on%20the%20Ohio%20study,produce%20one%20gallon%20of%20milk. By the way, since they don't do the conversion and quote dairy output in lbs/cow/day, a US gallon of cow's milk is 8.6 lbs. I'm not sure what happens to a dairy cow end of life, I've only known beef producers. Do they end up as meat and leather and bone meal/gelatin? How do you attribute water use for those products? For feed production water, do you count only irrigation water or is an estimation of rainwater added in? I answered two of my own questions above. They get slaughtered for their meat which is ground into hamburger as they are too tough for whole cuts. Those that die before slaughtering (old age/disease) are sent to rendering plants as burial is not usually a legal option. According to farmers, the ones given pasture are longer-lived than those factory farmed. Concrete is not good for the joints in particular. And lameness puts the cow in the "potential BSE" category and sends them immediately to a rendering plant. And hoo boy! Are the vegans ever full of lies on this particular one. They dominate the search results and, as usual, cite no sources, presenting only horror stories meant to play on emotions.
@zapfanzapfan
@zapfanzapfan 3 жыл бұрын
Whipped cream "melts" when put on something hot so I assume high temperature is bad for making small milk bubbles.
@prnfl
@prnfl 3 жыл бұрын
a good alternative: fairy liquid
@deanfielding4411
@deanfielding4411 3 жыл бұрын
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