I’ve only had mine for three months, but so far has been comfortable, durable, and accurate. Looks great too. I sold my Invicta PD because side-by-side, I liked this one better. It has a better quality much more comfortable bracelet, and doesn’t have all the gaudy “extra” touches of the Invicta. Time will tell if it holds up, but so far I’m very happy with it.

Got one last year and I'm very happy with it. One of the (if not the) best sub homages under 100 U$. Cheers!

What I like is the fact that they use the old style housing and nit the newer XXL version.

Nice looking watch. +12 seconds a day isn’t bad at all, but if you used one of those $15 watch demagnetizers on it, you might get it down a bit. I have a Chinese-made flieger with an NH35 movement that was running about +12 a day, and after demagnetizing it runs about +6.5 a day.

I bought my loreo hulk during the AliExpress November sale and I got it for under $60 dollars and I can’t tell you how impressed I am with this watch for the money I paid it’s actually incredible!

I recently bought a Corgeut 'Black Bay' homage with the the no date Seagull movement. Cost around $80 new - came in a polystyrene box with no papers/packaging. Really impressed with the quality Runs about +5s a day. The bracelet is excellent - even has screw links and a Tudor style clasp.

Thanks for taking the time. It's clear from your reviews that the PD-1639 has more to offer at a lower price.

I bought my Loreo Submariner back in early 2016 and I absolutely love it! I also have the Daytona homage one, which is very high-quality as well. Couldn't be happier, Loreo definitely is one of my favourite watch brands.

I have mine adjusted to +4/day so they can be accurate! I also brushed out those polished links, overall a great watch, also added a lume pip.

I love my Loreo. Great size for my 6.5" wrists. Gains about 5 seconds a day. Doesn't show wear at all after 2 months.

Great review, thanks

It is certainly worth the price. Presumably the chronometer certification is from the Societe horologie de Toytown. I wonder if the water resistance and crystal are similarly certified.

I got mine in 2019 and it’s still running strong

Think it's a great starter watch for someone that wants a mechanical watch at a low price point but has that popular sports watch look .

They also make a two tone which is pretty cool!!

It is a Seagull st16 movement. I have the black dial with a blue bezel and love it.

I have 9202 model with myota 8215 movement (no hacking), and much preatier bezel, price is 20-30$ more. Very good watch for that price.

My Loreo bezel got 120 clicks, maybe they got some cost-cutting measure going-on? Aluminum bezel got scratched once, but 40mm ceramic bezel are easy to buy and I replaced it myself.

A very nice review. For the price, it’s fine. I really don’t like the polished center links, Invicta does the same thing.

I’ve been going through aliexpress a lot lately out of curiosity. It’s very interesting what you can get for very little money. I just ordered a bauhaus chronoscope homage by Gimto for 20$. Looking forward to a good looking watch for cheap. If this one turns out alright I will definitely spend 70 on that Loreo!

Ivan I watched this in the dentist with the subtitles on. Oh my it did make me laugh. Great review of a very good affordable watch 👍

Looks great, thanks Ivan! I chose the Pagani hulk because of ceramic bezel and the Seiko movement. My local Texas guy is a Seiko dealer, so service should be better. I read somewhere that Seagull does not lube at plant, leaving it to the brand...then most do not. Did u notice this?

It seems there is more than one version of the watch. I just checked and 20 clicks in the bezel moves it to the 50 minute mark, so 120 clicks on mine. Another difference is that it is much much harder to move. You really need to try to be able to move it.

Thanks for sharing this watch with us, since all watches need service eventually I’ll pass. My watch repair guy won’t even look at a watch with a Chinese movement. I have an Invicta Pro Diver which has a NH35A movement.

The cyclops, bezel and bracelet scratch rather easily. I'm pretty sure the second hand is inconsistent throughout each revolution; it appears to speed up and slow down visually. It's a great beater for a great price (i ended up grabbing one for $59.)

Tenho o preto e o verde e não me arrependo de ter comprado pois, além de funcionarem bem o custo benefício é incrível!

I have a hulk version,runs at plus 4 seconds a day and I love it

I have an aliexpress Demirsen watch with a seagull st16 movement which I know well as a great workhorse of a movement hacks handwinds +5 seconds a day good quality in all areas very comfortable to wear £51 shipped amazing value loreo looks very similar same specs for a daily beater watch some great deals to be found on aliexpress

Recently obtained one in green. Sadly, it stops, and must be tapped or shaken and reset, indicative of a malfunctioning movement. Troublesome and difficult to rectify when obtained via internet outlet Ali Express or other/overseas distributors, but I shall try

This watch would be sweeter if they had left the " L " out of the name,,,,,, lol

I mean, it's okay,,, pleasing enough, yet after picking up the Pagani Design homage, I don't think I'd pick this one over that. Thanks.

I'm quite drawn to the black dial and blue bezel variation. Why have Rolex never gone for that particular combo on the sub? Looks more appealing than the Kermit.

Not Rolex, but look close. The accuracy can be adjusted to +4s/d, for this kind of watch more than good. One can swim with it, also dive to pool bottom, but any deeper I wud not stretch. Not meant as Rolex homage, yet a watch by itself. Aft 5yrs y might throw it, or keep it, as for sure it will keep on ticking... Achim, Singapore+

I received mine a month ago. The movement is great, it was +13 seconds fast. After the adjustment it is +0.5 a day on average. The only problem is the bezel insert. It is made of aluminium and mine is already scratched. Bought a ceramic one from AliExpress but it is just a fraction of a milimeter too big.

Not a fan of the sub design, just not my thing. Got a 1963 chrono last week, super impressed with it. Cheers mate 👍🏻

Btw Ivan ,have you ever reviewed Aragon watches ? Just discovered them myself and was very impressed .Big dive watches 45 mm and 50 mm well designed with coloured dials that really pop ,Really amazing value too looking at their website .

I just bought one for $55 US delivered. Now just the 5 week wait and I'll have a better idea if it was worth it LOL. For the price if it runs when it gets to me it was a good deal IMO.

I picked one up for $85.55 CAD (shipping included), but it runs between -15 and -30 seconds per day despite how much manual winding I give it, and keeping it in a watch-winder when I'm not wearing it. I expected better accuracy that that from as Sea-Gull ST16 movement, so I'm going to take it to a shop to see if it can be adjusted. I fully expect that I probably won't get with 2-3 seconds of accuracy, but i would at least like to see some consistent single-digits in the accuracy after movement adjustments are made. If anyone has seen a how-to video on how to adjust the movement, please send it to me.

Thanks for the review Ivan. As far as I can see, the Loreo is in direct competition with the Pagani Design. it could be argued that the Pagani is more of a Sea Dweller homage given its size, but I think they are direct competition. I have had my Pagani Hulk for 3 weeks....and I cant take it off ( not because of the stiff clasp) as I really love this watch. 2 seconds a day from the NH35, can't be beaten. How would you rate the two watches against each other ?

Do you happen to know if Miyota 8215 sized aftermarket handsets are compatible with this movement?

Great review! Could you do a review of the following watches? - San Martin Submariner - Heimdallr Shark Submariner - Tisell Marine Diver I would love to see a Submariner homage "stand-off" between San Martin, Heimdallr and Tisell :)

I picked up a "batman" version....for $64.00 US...hacking with a sapphire crystal...fits fantastic on my wrist...perfect size for my wrist....what more can you ask for...if the bracelet gets all scratched, there are third party ones

Nice nerd shelf. I see wing Gundam, exia and rodimus? Are the gundams models or those figures? Oh, and the watch was nice.

Good video. Is this Bezel insert Outer Diameter: 38mm and Inner Diameter: 31mm.?

Can't complain for the price. The only issue I have is they say it's a 40mm watch, but it's closer to 38mm. It's actually very small looking.

Can we mod the bezel to another color?

You should mention using AUD$75 as the base price for the Loreo comparing it to the Genuine Rolex Explorer the latter costs 230 times that of the Loreo. That says it all. If one can afford a Rolex, by all means, buy one NEW(if you lose or misplace or get stolen it just don't cry), don't risk buying a used one too many imitations around.

Great video brother, I just picked up a Pagani Design “Sub” and was very pleased with the watch. In fact so made an unboxing video on my channel!

You should take off bracelet, for some reason they make 4 holes for spring bar instead of 2 for each side.

Chinese quality & price , great message to Rolex & the rest of the Haute' Coutier Watch houses , for 70. its all day long, I'll take the other 20 grand & by a any number of great watches for a couple grand & enjoy all the watches you could wear for many years. I am believer in paying for what I want ( vintage/ quality) & Not Getting Ripped Off, 20 + for a watch, really. Thanx P.S. Tx.

Thanks for the review, I enjoy your videos 👍🔥😀

Super Loreo by Nintendo great platform but somehow still lacking. Thanks for review.

I bought mine some time ago but it stopped working after some weeks. It just won't tick, as if there is something loose in the mechanism. Can anyone help me?

I do like a good homage watch but I feel that the loreo isn't as well executed as the pagani the thing that would stop me from buying the loreo though is the "superlative chronometer officially certified" on the dial. Maybe I'm being a bit overly critical for the $ that you pay but come on guys! 😂 Great review as always! 👍

Lets face it, there's only two watches in the best VFM Subby contest, the Pagani and this Loreo. Deciding between them is tough and might well resolve down to the size of your wrist. Both watches will sit comfortably on a 7 1/2" wrist like mine but smaller wrists might be swamped by the Pagani. Interestingly for me there are a couple of subtle things on a quality level that might lead you to favour one over tother. The ceramic bezel on the Pagani looks classier than the ally one on the Loreo but that Pagani bezel edge is a little sharp and less well finished. Its certainly likely to wear out your shirt cuffs faster! And the Loreo clasp looks poorer on the spec sheet but in truth is more comfortable and easier to use. The Loreo in green or black is fine but the blue one features face and bezel that do not colour match. Indeed, they clash. My point is that deciding between these watches is difficult, even with the help of great reviews like Ivan's. My solution was to buy both which at a total cost of less than £100 delivered to the UK is no bank breaker. But all owning both tells me is that both are very, very good but not perfect. My advice - buy the black Loreo and the Green Pagani...

Hi, which one that you prefer between Seiko SNK809, Parnis GMT or Loreo submariner as entry level automatic?

I'm sure that Seagull makes great movements, but I recently read the opinion that there is no default lubricant in Seagull OEM-movements. Chinese manufacturers of cheap watches do not add this lubricant, therefore such watches do not work well. Therefore, it is better to look for watch based on Seiko/Miyota movements, or immediately check the Seagull movement in the watch repair service.

I've had mine now for 2 months and its just a super cheap watch, what the poor man needs....also had the black 3 dial daytona homage.

hi Ivan. how are you again? LOREO.... I bought one over a year ago via Amazon, but I had to return it immediately because the movement wasn't working properly. As I watch this video, I just couldn't help myself by comparing this to Pagani Design Rolex Homage watch. I believe you already have reviewed that watch. With similar prices, I believe that Pagani really kicks Loreo's butt upside & down, big time. Pagani with better, and true 2.5 cyclops magnification, ceramic bezel, way more refined bracelet with screw-in. 1000% better looking clasp. AND NH-35 Proven Japanese movement. For me, the only reason, I did not buy this Pagani was that it was 43 mm size, not 40. (But I will be receiving 40mm version in 4 days here, Los Angeles. I paid bit over $100 (including tax), but It would be very interesting how it would look and work. Another Rolex homage, but it looked very sharp. there is no model #, but I bought it from Aliexpress and its description is : PAGANI Design Watch Men diving Automatic Mechanical Watch Stainless Steel Waterproof 100M Fashion Business Relogio Masculino). Anyway, going back to Loreo review, of course, it is a good watch for what it is. decent product for the money, however, there are better options in Chinese-Branded watches. Pagani is definitely better and some of the Parnis & Corgeut have better specs. I truly believe that unless Loreo up their games, they might be pushed to aside and never be able to come back... Thanks again for the wonderful review, Ivan.

I was your 240th "Thumbs Up" by the way- BEAUTIFUL watch by the way!!!!!!

How good is the lume? Say compare to an Orient Ray or skx?

Hi, I just bought a Loreo sub hommage and receive it last week, second hand keep on stooping after a few minutes on the same 52/53 second spot, is this considered a wasted watch? Ali express refunded me but less $10, it’s either I send it and paid for shipping or that. It’s like a non question option so I just took the refund and now have this faulty watch now for $10.

Attractive watch. Mine came (a week ago) with a defective quick set date mechanism, and a crappy attitude from the seller. :-)

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There are a lot of these cheap affordable Sub homages/copies out there and from reviews comments it does seem their quality is hit and miss. Think I'd rather stick to the Invicta Pro-diver but as always everyone's choice is their own

Very hit and miss quality control on the Loreo. Good movement, but mine is not even humidity proof, let alone water proof. If you search reviews, you will find lots of complaints about this watch leaking. I would suggest upgrading to the Pagani Design, bigger, but waterproof, with a Seiko movement.

Did you have trouble removing links?

They advertise this as 20bar and chronometer also🤔

Is it waterproof tho? I am looking to buy it but it has to be at least as good as the invicta prodiver. Did anyone go diving with it?

60,90,120 click it really doesn't matter. Divers do not time their dives that closely, they wouldn't dare. I have a rather expensive Chris Ward watch with a 60 click. What counts is the action. If Loreo, Parnis and Pagani can put sapphire on a cheap watch, why can't Seiko do the same with something that costs four times as much ?

This is rather good for the money - the places where the watch lose to the Invicta are IMHO: the cyclops - almost no magnification and actually not sapphire. The crystal IS sapphire, so a bit odd. My other watches with sapphire and cyclops test for positive on both surfaces. This cyclops goes - I have ordered some sapphire ones with proper magnification, this will be an interesting project. Second complaint, the "Superlative ....." text. They should have just left it out instead. And the clasp, these ones just have such a naff aura around them. I will take the Invicta clasp any day. Ok, lets take a small one more: the missing lume pip.

where can i get one for less than $100 ?

With the link you've given us to purchasing this piece - I can't help but noticed they've literally just stolen an image of a Rolex Submariner and photoshopped their logos over the top, the date magnification, lugs and crown size are completely different, slightly misleading if you ask me. Nonetheless on paper it's a decent watch.

Don't Trust that 200m....lol

My Loreo Sub died after less than 10 months, the vendor was not interested to assist, actually said that I had gotten enough use from my purchase!! I replaced the movement myself with a ali express sourced movement. However within 2 months the bezel stopped working, the click spring post snapped off. I would not recommend this brand at all.

Someone who looks at that from a distance & thinks it's a Sub is going 2b really disappointed when u explain 2 them what it really is..

Brand name shld change to lorex😂

"superlative chronometer"..."officially certified"...I don't think so. Fake marketing like this would immediately remove this watch from my short list.

I guess the first thing to know is that I really like this watches build. Here's what I don't like about it. This watch is shit quality. Well the movement that is, is shit. My watch never worked properly from day one. Sometimes it just stops, then starts, loses time then gains like an hour. No rhyme nor reason for this. It will keep good time for a week, then off its tits it goes again. I contacted the seller who said he would fix it. He gave me some bullshit address in China, that Australia Post can't handle and it would cost me over $25.00 to send into the dodgy Chinese mail system. So, what to do? Well, I'm going to bite the bullet and get another mechanism for it and have a go at fixing myself. Picking another ST16 seems pretty pointless, as most reviews say that this movement is garbage due to poor QC at the factory. Apparently, when Sea Gull sell their movements off to third parties, they sell the junk and keep the better quality movements for their own branded watches. Off into the abyss and black magic circle of watch repair I go.

I own a blue sunburst sailed loreo and your not going to find a nicer watch for the money...

Loreo must be the Rolex for those with dyslexia.

Are you chinese? I’m surprised you’re asian

If you are going to buy a watch.. why would you not take your time... save.. do your research and buy something with class and confidence. It is a chinese replica piece of shit. There are thousands of better watches between This jalopy and a Rolex ...