I've DJ'd when he has played a few times, a super nice bloke.

Too much sour grapes, needs some humility IMO. Resents John so much and apparently felt restricted in the band - yet he's still touring under the billing 'Chris Helme OF THE SEAHORSES'.

@@SeahorsesJay mans gotta make a living

@@SeahorsesJay John replacing drummers on a whim in his own world with a separate tour bus with his infantile doodling cranked to 11. Chris was the only one who got on with him, but he finally had enough and told it like it was John treated everyone like shite, and expected everyone to jump at his command and play his songs only when he couldn't write, it was John who needs humility, just because Johns a great guitarist does not make him great bandmate

Humility ??? They were basically used as stooges for his guitaring escapades. Love John and the Roses but the Seahorses were clearly hard done by. Jesus he riffs over nearly every lyrical line. @@SeahorsesJay

Yes, only saw it because you’d mentioned it. It’s a desperate glance. Chris Helme is a decent singer in studio and live. But you can’t yell either on this cold, wet stage, with Squires stacks turned up to 11.

The Jimmy Page Wannabe Experience

It’s a shame Squire thought he needed to play like this. I prefer the jangly/funk version of himself from a few years earlier

@@richdukes9632 cocaine rodeo.

The John Squire Ode To Jimmy Page - Experience !! (Sorry JS - no disrespect dear boy). Cheers 🥂

John Squire and the John Squire Experience

Well, at least we can hear Squire. I mean really hear it loud and clear. Chris sounds like a very nice guy. Maybe too nice.

Exactly. Chris has a great voice live, but, with Squire's volume and without working monitors, it's very difficult to know the exact pitch

On a stage that large what you can hear is due to what you ask for in your monitors. It never fails to astound me how some seriously experienced singers still don't realise they only have to communicate with the monitor engineer to change the balance of what they want to hear.

@@sohosteveuk what you think John would have uped his amps he thout he was God back then rest of the band didn't have a say sutch a same all great artists

@@mitchellgreenhowe7891 - You're missing the point. Wouldn't matter how big his amps or ego may have been if the singer knew what to ask for in HIS OWN monitors. John Squire wouldn't have been aware of given a toss what the singer was hearing as it wouldn't have much affected his own stage sound unless he had gone and stood centre stage and blocked the singer's access to his microphone. But I guess you'd have to understand the nature of onstage monitoring to know what I'm referencing

Seen em in the barrowlands ma 1st gig, a was 16 it was amazin

Squire/Brown solo careers tell a different story mate.

Squires ego was such a shame all he had to do was make the band equals and turn his s**t down

@@larrydavid6852 Hey - My name is Larry David too!

​@@sorryambercocaine ego

an amazing guitar player, completely mediocre songwriter....

Chris is just Liam Gallagher for poor

@@MW-gk2uq Entitled to your opinion.

@@MW-gk2uqHow have y out worked that out

What are you talking about? It’s part of the song.

@@-cityinthesky99 obviously it’s part of the song. My point is, as much as I’m a huge fan of squires noodling, it’s a lot for any singer to sing over. Plant did a great job of battling over Page. Squires heavily influenced by those guys and it’s evident in the seahorses and roses. Does that make sense?

@@themarinman8339 if you think plant was “battling over page” you clearly just dunno what you are talking about

@@-cityinthesky99 I think you take things too literally mate. Please don’t get confused and see this comment as a negative. I’m also a lead guitarist who takes masses of inspiration from Squire and Page. Robert Plants voice is tremendous and really needed to be to stay in line in such a formidable band. I’m not saying Chris Helme isn’t as good as Robert plant, I’m just saying it’s a lot of guitar playing for a singer to sound melodic over.

yes please yes please yes fucking please

Really? Are you deaf?

@@PeeWee75 yes really. Are you a sourpuss?

No, not at all, I'm a musician with a keen ear for 'in tune' singing and this performance was dreadful. Listen to it again without your rose tinted headphones 👍🏻

I love your sarcasm.

@@PeeWee75 I Loved The Seahorses But I have To Agree Chris Looks completely Lost during Love Is The Law With John Squires Riffs all over the shop. He can’t keep in tune. I don’t think it’s Chris’s Fault it’s the fact That There’s so much guitar Riffs going on out of sync with the actual song. ✌️✊✌️

The reason is he's ball end

Coke, lots of it, he gets caught up in the moment

He's mimicking Pete Townsend from the kid's are alright shepperton gig.

It’s a copycat of a band called, “The Who”!

What documentary was it?

​@@uglyseal8396 No reply. Says everything. John Squire is a god.

@@johnthomson3070he’s an amazing guitarist but you can tell no one can hear shit over him

Cocaine is just shit for performance on stage - makes you sing/play like a tosser plus makes you ten times more nervous ! I absolutely do NOT recommend you - The Kids - go near it ! Try heroin - it’s much nicer ?! JOKE !!! That last bit was me joking. Stay away from hard drugs kids. Then you’ll never have to regret how drugs destroyed all the things you were really good at. Seriously !! Yer better off without all that Pandora’s Box bollocks ripping yer life apart at the seams..... (Besides which - I’ve already snorted/smoked/ingested your lifetime’s share so... no need !?Lol ) 😆 Cheers 🥂

​@@RikiNewtonMusicianSongwriter .. your right stay away from hard drugs if you have a fake put on voice like amy winehouse because when your fucked you will look stupid unlike kurt cobain and layne staley just a couple of singers who really could enjoy heroin and give their vocal chords that extra kick and their natural voices sounded better for it.

@@theprogrammerrolandmc3039 Nice 👍 comment ! Agree with you - particularly the hard drugs part - very few ppl can enjoy them and just put them down without it making a negative influence on their lives. Cobain and Stanley certainly enjoyed heroin but continued use could’ve had a negative affect on their vocal chords - but they were both intravenous users - for it to really mess up your voice you’d have to smoke it every day for a good while. Much better to not bother. Best wishes to you and cheers 🥂

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@@kdwskdwsHa stolen comment from me. Word for word too!

Glastonbury has changed. Never mind the coverage.

In the studio, Chris Helme sounds sublime. According to Chris in a 2011 interview, the sound stage was dominated by Squires teeth rattling stacks and Chris couldn’t hear anything to pitch to.

@@username0754 I've heard the demos for it

Yup, totally shitty backing vocals.

Blinded by the sun was not a bad harmony but his mic is louder than the lead vocal. Usually monitoring for drummers is harder as there’s tons of on stage noise from the kit.

Well you got that all wrong buddy. Watch the documentary about them and this gig. Johns guitar was so loud that Chris the lead singer couldnt hear himself to pitch, so the drummer had nothing to pitch to either. John Squire treated the whole band like shit

@@mattiemclean9882 funnily enough - I just found out about that yesterday.

@@albertcalderon6378 No they weren't, John Squier's guitar volume made it impossible for ANYBODY to sing. Watch the documentary. The lead singer gave up singing in the choruses leaving the drummer to carry the can, which he did. .

Andy Watts of his kite on Charlie too 😁

John claims his only excess was guitar solos

Victor Jones don’t I.....??🤣👍🏻

That’s what happens when you’re in a band where the guitarist has decided he’s the only one the the audience want to hear.

You can see how pissed off Chris Helme was when he stopped singing during LITL and then went walkabout during the solo. Looks like he wants to kill someone - Squire I’m guessing!

Don't get me wrong his playing is fantastic, and l love the solos, but it was effectively solo project. Which is a great shame.

I always thought the seahorses was John bullying unknowns to get his own way. He couldn't treat Simon Tong or Simon Jones the same way when they were in Skunkworks with him as they had equal pegging due to their time in the verve. He left the band when he the two Simon's gave him pushback!

Saw Chris helme in a local pub doing a solo gig, massively underrated.

Chris has a great voice

Also John's Amps are far too cranked louder than his Mic, I agree Chris has made some amazing music since the break up.

How did he insist on being the only songwriter, when Chris had about 3 on their debut album ? 😂

@@TheKevzaJohn wanted the royalties.

Yeah course you would’ve.

and the bloody drummers backing vocals..christ....if you cant hold a note, dont sing

@@Jesterhead-ow6gu it’s known that they couldn’t hear a thing that day over the guitar volume which makes the singing much harder

Monitor mix poor and nerves

Well,, pro singer should be able to sing even in that situation. Actually Chris was abele to in this gig, I think. You know, Chris is playing with John Squire. If John play his guitar with small sound, everyone will be disappointed for sure. At the least, I love his play in this video.

He ruined this band the moment he chose to recruit second rate musicians

​@@Jimking666I don't think it's that simple. Squire got screwed by his previous manager and probably thought he could do better himself but history shows he couldn't he did exactly the same to these guys as was done to him. Granted the musicians were a little inexperienced but to my ears the only weak point was the drummer. Squire is notoriously difficult to work with and probably has an over inflated opinion of himself and given the amount of cocaine he was using it's hardly surprising he was afraid of not being in control which ruined the opportunity this band had because there is as much talent here as there was in the roses. All they need was the right drummer and a professional manager but squire wanted to do it his way and he messed up a potentially great band.

@@northernthrifter8817 Nice one James Hargrevaes

Singer fukn garbage, Johny fuckn magic.

Nice profile pic 🇬🇧🐻🔴⚪️🔵

Yeah u don’t need it throughout a song

@@ethanc1719 we get it mate, you like oasis

@@-cityinthesky99 I hate oasis

@@ethanc1719 hipster

@@-cityinthesky99 dark fruits

If you play (and like) the guitar, it's far from wankery.

Barry Peal As much as I enjoy playing these songs on the electric, you can’t ignore how much the guitar over shadows Chris helme’s lyrics. Let’s be real, John’s ego got the best of him and no one (besides Helme) objected to the amount of wankery on the album. I think Helme should have had more control tbh, things would have played out better

@@Bazonthebass it's like having a steak. You need chips.

@@Chillo56 Fair enough. We'll have to agree to disagree, but John and Chris both had problems. I'm a big fan of guitars and love it erring on the side of 'wankery' if you want to call it that. I also like the songs, and Chris Helme's voice, which has a slightly folky edge at times, which the other singers in his peer group (mainly shouters) don't have.

I agree, and in spite of being a player and interested in John Squire back then, there was way too much of the riffing with the same pull-offs and trills everywhere (EVERYWHERE) to the extent that The Seahorses were boring. I suppose it's the songs isn't it? If they're just not strong enough for a whole album's worth.