The SEARCH Is On For ANCIENT Sites USING Europe’s OLDEST MAP

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7 ай бұрын

The Saint-Bélec slab is thought to be Europe's oldest map. Carved with a series of geometric markings, the slab was discovered in 1900 during the excavation of a Bronze Age cist tomb in France. Over the years experts have concluded that it probably depicts a Bronze Age principality centred on a royal enclosure, as well as features of the surrounding area. However, not all of the markings have been decoded, so a new project has been launched to see if these markings on the slab can help to find unknown archaeological sites or geological deposits. In this video I talk about the slab's rediscovery in 2014, the subsequent analysis of it and why it's back in the news.
#ancient #ancienthistory #bronzeage
✨ IN THIS EPISODE
00:00 Introduction
00:51 The Discovery
03:18 Features of the Slab
06:12 The Treasure Hunt
07:02 Other Ancient Maps
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✨ REFERENCES
Agasse, A. (2023). ‘How a Bronze Age rock became a 'treasure map' for researchers,’ Phys org, 17 October. phys.org/news/2023-10-bronze-age-treasure.html
Nicolas, C., Pailler, Y., Stéphan, P., Pierson, J., Aubry, L., Le Gall, B., Lacombe, V. and Rolet, J., 2021. AN EARLY 3D‐MAP OF A TERRITORY? THE BRONZE AGE CARVED SLAB FROM SAINT‐BÉLEC, LEUHAN (BRITTANY, FRANCE). Oxford Journal of Archaeology, 40(4), pp.367-390.
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@MegalithHunter 7 ай бұрын

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@barrywalser2384 7 ай бұрын

Hi Laura! These fascinate me. I’m a map guy. And I knew there were megalithic structures in Brittany, but this video was a good deep dive. Thanks for all you do!

@MegalithHunter 7 ай бұрын

Glad you enjoyed it! Maps are amazing. I would love to do more map work.

@floydriebe4755 7 ай бұрын

sure looks to be a lot of sites in that area, according to that map.....hopefully, more excavations ahead🤩

@stephennicolay1940 7 ай бұрын

The Nicolay Rutter may interest you.

@ZiggyDan 7 ай бұрын

I love old maps, full of intrigue. Great find, Laura.

@MegalithHunter 7 ай бұрын

Me too! The older the better. Thanks for watching Ziggy.

@Rom3_29 7 ай бұрын

someone didn't want those 4 "missing" pieces public. Large stone map by itself raises some uncomfortable questions about human evolution and ancestry's general knowledge. Sadly grave robbers and other thieves would gladly use that map as a guide for midnight "archaeological" diggings. Archaeologists in Russia found a stone slab. Someone suggested slab being a map. Side note- During 1960s French archaeologist found a site that went against modern theories how human's "evolve". Site was quickly covered and all articles removed from public view. Anyone trying to dig in the area was and is prosecuted.

@scottzema3103 7 ай бұрын

Brittainy itself seems centered right in megalithic territory in an active trading area on the eastern Atlantic seaboard during the Neolithic period. A highly active region. Perhaps the owner had a record of his own properties in the region engraved on the slab for his use and later his tomb or was a local ruler. A famous example of a stone map in ancient times is the Forma Urbis Romae produced during the reign of Septimius Severus in 205-208 AD for the Temple of Peace, which was also a map memorializing property within the city of Rome. Nothing like stone for record keeping?

@MegalithHunter 7 ай бұрын

I agree, that's a very likely possibility. On another note I was just reading a chapter of a book about Severus this morning!

@scottzema3103 7 ай бұрын

Great minds and all that! :)@@MegalithHunter

@telebubba5527 7 ай бұрын

Maps most certainly would have been around ever since mankind started to roam the earth. It's the number one means of getting one's bearings and orientating one's self. Although by far most of it would have been drawn in the soil, we quite likely have thrown numerous more permanent ones away, not knowing what we were looking at. People have been pretty ignorant for millennia and damaged many important sites on top of what nature does by itself. Who knows if we are able to find more of these things. I would be very nice, though.

@DIREWOLFx75 7 ай бұрын

"Although by far most of it would have been drawn in the soil" Wood and bark carvings more likely. "People have been pretty ignorant for millennia and damaged many important sites" Most likely, the by far most important potential sites, are underneath modern cities and houses. Sadly. As most of the time, that would also mean that most of any possible finds have been destroyed centuries ago.

@rossmcleod7983 7 ай бұрын

Australian Aboriginal ceremonial art work that describes “country” bears a remarkable resemblance to the calligraphy of these ancient maps. I’ve spent some time long ago, with these people and the sophistication, creativity and cultural depth I experienced puts the bankrupt West to shame….just saying….love your channel btw, short, sharp and to the point.

@waynesworldofsci-tech 7 ай бұрын

Oh neat! That would be fantastic. 630 sq kilometres? That’s a lot of territory to search. If this is a map and they get the matching right this is an enormous opportunity. Your last thought about other maps, hell, we need to go back and look at everything again.

@MegalithHunter 7 ай бұрын

Totally!

@waynesworldofsci-tech 7 ай бұрын

@@MegalithHunter Good morning Laura. Only 6:00 AM here, and my damned body had me awake at 5:00 AM. Poor dog is wondering what exactly is going on with his human. Getting old sucks at times. This is truly a golden age for archaeologists. The new technologies are making an enormous difference to exploration and analysis. There are so many new interesting papers being published, and instead of doing what I really want to I’ve spent the last twenty months trying to explain to people why the sky isn’t falling, and why 99% of the so called analysis is fantasy. Oh well. Life hands you lemons, it’s lemonade time.

@floydriebe4755 7 ай бұрын

hi, again, Laura! too cool....those folks seem to have had a great grip on geography.....those cup marks DO look like barrow tombs...got all the features, looks like.....and, the fact that they align with known barrows kinda puts the glimmer of truth on this.....my question is..... why? i mean, i can think of multiple reasons but, are they skewed, being modern thoughts? their lives were so different than ours, in many respects.....whatever the reason(s), must have been very important, to go thru the work of creating it...quite the difficult medium to be carving😮 anyhoo, gonna do some readin' on this🤔...i've always been fascinated by maps....and, ancient ones are so mysterious, to me thanks, Laura! hope you have a great weekend😊 what's up next? (if you aren't saving that info as a surprise😉) Cheerio! Ta Ta! 'n all that🙃

@barrywalser2384 7 ай бұрын

Hey Floyd! Happy Thanksgiving! 🦃 I’m a map guy myself. I always love a good map. Take care!

@floydriebe4755 7 ай бұрын

@@barrywalser2384 hey, Barry! hope yer Thanksgiving was great! cool.....maps......great minds.......

@MegalithHunter 7 ай бұрын

The next video is probably going to be on a new paper that's just come out on a prehistoric settlement in Central Europe.

@floydriebe4755 7 ай бұрын

@@MegalithHunter crikey, thanks Laura! always nice to have an idea of what's up👍 sure 'n i be lookin' forward to that😊

@InFamousProductions 7 ай бұрын

Great video and analysis . It would make sense that there would have been maps since the first "modern" human could rationalize anything. That last image you showed I think is very likely to be a map, and I think re examination of all stones with any kind of line/geometry patterns that are not uniform is a good idea.

@michaelolsson5335 6 ай бұрын

Interesting discussion and analysis. I enjoyed it and I learnt a lot of new facts. Great video.

@chrisbricky7331 7 ай бұрын

Great work and thanks for sharing.

@chrisbricky7331 7 ай бұрын

This map sounds like a good use of LIDAR over this specific valley. LIDAR would give you a good read on what is just under the ground and allow the researchers to quickly pick out points of interest. Like they are doing in Egypt and for the areas of Mayan antiquity.

@davidj8065 7 ай бұрын

Very good channel thank you

@MegalithHunter 7 ай бұрын

Thanks a lot!

@Betulaaah 7 ай бұрын

Wow that’s fantastic, thank you so much for sharing, as for your leaps about more ancient maps, I think you’re more than possibly onto something there, it stands to reason. Homo sapiens sapiens having, based on current understanding been around circa 300K, & give a take a few genetic changes (tongue rolling into a tube anyone, Yep I can do that, apparently a recent addition in the HSS repertoire, although frankly can’t see it has any use other than sucking up water from a puddle, so surprised recent, seems counterintuitive) no different to the version of HSS wandering around today ie us - arguably maps of local typography alone would have been more essential in comparison right back to 300K, evidently no longer extant or found, but with exactly our brains (although aren’t ours getting smaller 😱) this seems like a no brainer (apologies couldn’t resist) - how’s that for a leap, makes yours look positively must be true - thank you for a really great share.

@tinkerstrade3553 7 ай бұрын

Let me be the first to congratulation you on complimenting the host by using comparative levels of insanity.🤣

@Betulaaah 7 ай бұрын

@@tinkerstrade3553 😆

@bobhemphut4011 7 ай бұрын

This is awesome info thanks.!!! My family research has led me into researching Brittany and Gaul(armorica)

@MegalithHunter 7 ай бұрын

Thank you 😊

@lynnmitzy1643 8 ай бұрын

❤ greetings Laura 🌸🌸👋🏼its Thanksgiving here. I won't make your live. I am cooking and driving to my sons house. Much love to you and yours ❤

@MegalithHunter 8 ай бұрын

Ahhh no worries! Have a wonderful time!!

@floydriebe4755 8 ай бұрын

yeah, Lynn, but it's not til tomorrow

@MegalithHunter 8 ай бұрын

@@floydriebe4755 I changed it because I forgot that it’s Thanksgiving over there. No point sitting in the chat by myself 😂 Well, lots of my audience are US-based. Not all, but lots!

@floydriebe4755 8 ай бұрын

@@MegalithHunteraye, lass, ye should be surrounded by yer community....'n thanks, for yer consideration, our Laura👍😘

@cA..07 7 ай бұрын

@Lynn hope you had a wonderful Thanksgiving holiday cheers 🍻.. cA

@bumfie 7 ай бұрын

Thanks quality content . very interesting Well done you

@MegalithHunter 7 ай бұрын

Much appreciated!

@philbarker7477 7 ай бұрын

Interesting video. All sounds logical.

@rolyvonotter2693 7 ай бұрын

It would be interesting to compare the 'Map' to LIDAR & maybe scrutinise possible sites. Thanks for the info :)

@MegalithHunter 7 ай бұрын

Great suggestion! I wonder if they will do that!

@rolyvonotter2693 7 ай бұрын

@@MegalithHunterif someone doesn't I will 😂

@whicker59 7 ай бұрын

Would it b possible to see u come out from behind ur seating, and present some pictures with a pointer as u discuss specifics?

@lessismore4470 7 ай бұрын

Very interesting. Greetings from Poland.

@MegalithHunter 7 ай бұрын

Thanks for watching!

@andyfreek6664 7 ай бұрын

Hey Laura I just subbed. Please continue to blow my mind

@floydriebe4755 7 ай бұрын

be not afeared.....she will

@HepCatJack 7 ай бұрын

Where were some stone world maps found in a cave in Ecuador in 1984 where Jamaica, Puerto Rico, La Hispañola (Dominican Republic + Haiti) and Cuba appear as a single large island. On this globe there is a mark further along the equator which shows a Pyramid with an eye in the center. It would be interesting to find the spot that corresponds to the pyramid with the eye to see if anything is there.

@MegalithHunter 7 ай бұрын

Wow didn’t know about that one

@HepCatJack 7 ай бұрын

@@MegalithHunter one of the globes showed North and South America and the large island I mentioned. One of the other globes showed India but still connected to Sri-Lanka which would make it at least about 6 to 8 thousand years old as that's the last time Sri Lanka was connected to India by land was during the Ice Age when more of Earth's water was frozen at the Poles and on top of glaciers.

@MegalithHunter 7 ай бұрын

@@HepCatJack will look it up!

@pjqziggy 7 ай бұрын

Many thanks

@MegalithHunter 7 ай бұрын

You are welcome :)

@MizMissiB 7 ай бұрын

Fascinating

@MegalithHunter 7 ай бұрын

Thank you

@floydriebe4755 8 ай бұрын

i won't make the premiere, dang it😢 i'll be gettin' needles stuck in my arm, 'bout then.....however, i WILL be watching 'n commenting ASAP.....lucky you😂 til then, m'lady, i be e'er at yer service⚔

@MegalithHunter 8 ай бұрын

Crikey! That’s alright, catch up at your leisure. We’ll be waiting for your comments.

@floydriebe4755 8 ай бұрын

@@MegalithHunter hope they're worth the wait😉 (haven't heard that for some time..."crikey!")

@MegalithHunter 8 ай бұрын

@@floydriebe4755 😂😅 British innit. Haha

@floydriebe4755 8 ай бұрын

@@MegalithHunter 😂Ta!

@vulpesvulpes5177 7 ай бұрын

Floyd? I thought you were not going to take that job as a voodoo doll?

@Zdraviski 7 ай бұрын

1:19 : all I can see is a drawing of a cat

@markaxworthy2508 7 ай бұрын

Nothing substantive can possibly come from this. For a start, we don't actually know what the markings represent. Nor, presuming it is an accurate "map", are we likely to be able to reconstruct the landscape of the time with sufficient accuracy to be able to match the two, especially as we don't know the presumed scale.

@AlbertPOost 5 ай бұрын

Might some of the carved slabs recently found in Ireland also be maps?

@paulslater9061 7 ай бұрын

Ask the airline pilots they know where all the crop marks are they're there every year for anyone who's looking to see

@notjustforme 7 ай бұрын

One of the markings has got to be "you are here!" :)

@MegalithHunter 7 ай бұрын

😂😂😂

@MountainRaven1960 7 ай бұрын

To you, it’s a Bronze Age settlement, to them, it’s a city.

@antonyreyn 7 ай бұрын

Vincent stood on that stone painted the landmarks of the map, we all become part of each others story brushstrokes in time, the Map and the Masterpiece unknowable unyet certain

@robinwitting2023 7 ай бұрын

Maybe maps haved been used ever since man drew a circle in the sand; a tool as well as a statement of identity. Robin Witting

@notjustforme 7 ай бұрын

As someone who once had to draw a line on the ground and make a woosh sound pointing to a river, to make sure they know that I mean river, I can only agree. Maps come natural, even to people who never used or seen one. As soon as there is any reference, it works. Like magic.

@workaholic5318 7 ай бұрын

Heavens, every Tom, Dick and Harry who had access to leather and marking tools made maps for their own use. It should surprise no one that there are stone maps as well as the medium makes them archival.

@petrapetrakoliou8979 7 ай бұрын

interesting hypothesis. I am not sure it is a map though. If you rotate any children's drawing with lines and potatoes on it it will statistically look like a real river network with tributaries as distances are not respected. You could also apply it to any random river network not just the one in the region. Which does not exclude that it was intended as a map either.

@MegalithHunter 7 ай бұрын

Good point.

@DIREWOLFx75 7 ай бұрын

"If you rotate any children's drawing with lines and potatoes on it it will statistically look like a real river network with tributaries as distances are not respected." That is an extreme exaggeration. Also, this is not a few minutes of work with crayons, this is weeks or even months of work by a master craftsman. "You could also apply it to any random river network not just the one in the region." Uh, no. Even poorly detailed, you will not be able to make it fit probably at least 75% of other river networks. More like less than 10%. Even less, FAR less, when there is surrounding topography included. "Which does not exclude that it was intended as a map either." And most importantly, if it was NOT a map, again, what did a master stone carver spend WEEKS or even months on making? It fits surprisingly well to being a map, if it is not, then what is it?

@petrapetrakoliou8979 7 ай бұрын

@@DIREWOLFx75 It is not detailed enough for us to know what it represents. Those people had very low graphical abilities, they have practically no figurative art, so it is extremely hard for us to put ourselves into their minds as we live in an overwhelming world of images. So they didn't have anything better to engrave on the stone from an aesthetic point of view. If you draw lines and potatoes onto a surface you will tend to cover the surface in an even way which is how river networks work too. There is a much greater probability of us seeing what we want in those drawings due to the predictive capacity of our vision than them actually representing what we see in them.

@DIREWOLFx75 7 ай бұрын

@@petrapetrakoliou8979 "It is not detailed enough for us to know what it represents. Those people had very low graphical abilities, they have practically no figurative art, so it is extremely hard for us to put ourselves into their minds as we live in an overwhelming world of images. So they didn't have anything better to engrave on the stone from an aesthetic point of view." Uh, wow... Now you're doing THE most epic novice mistake. You are assuming that people of that time are automatically inferior to us, "just because". Seriously, don't do that. There's no evidence supporting it and the overwhelming majority of times people do it, they are disproven eventually. "If you draw lines and potatoes onto a surface you will tend to cover the surface in an even way which is how river networks work too." Sigh, no it is not.

@petrapetrakoliou8979 7 ай бұрын

@@DIREWOLFx75 I am not saying in any ways they were inferior, they probably had superior intelligence compared to us we who live in such a sheltered world aided by writing and internet. They simply didn't have all the evolution of classical art behind them which lead to our graphical culture. You think you are closer to them and think you know what they thought, but you actually live in the same world as I... From a strictly artistic point of view they did not achieve the same level as a modern graphist usually has, thanks to the richness of our visual culture. So we might think that that looks like a map due to our preconceptions, but it actually represents something totally different.

@vulpesvulpes5177 7 ай бұрын

Ok. I update my KZfaq app. I’m getting notifications again. But live chat seems to have disappeared. Unless this is it? Live comments now?

@floydriebe4755 7 ай бұрын

actually, Fox, i read you 5x5 in chat! sssooo......

@davidvomlehn4495 7 ай бұрын

Humans demonstrate all over the world desires to explore, hunt, conquer, and trade. Why wouldn't there be, as you suggests, maps everywhere? The propensity to label all cave paintings, petroglyph, etc, as ritual symbols has always seemed a bit glib, as if earlier humans had no practical concerns. Thanks for the update.

@MelissaThompson432 7 ай бұрын

I believe cyst burial is pronounced "kist." (That's what they say on Time Team.... 😉)

@MegalithHunter 7 ай бұрын

You are right. I messed that up! Even though I’ve seen every episode of Time Team 😂

@MelissaThompson432 7 ай бұрын

@@MegalithHunter lol! Well, you don't have to feel too bad about it. I have autism brain; the strangest things stick and won't go away. Which usually means I end up being the Grammar Police. I mean well.

@IlluminovaNibiru 7 ай бұрын

Megalith Meteors

@phoule76 7 ай бұрын

it's clearly a map of the Flintstones´ metro network.

@MegalithHunter 7 ай бұрын

That’s it! 😂

@dp6003 6 ай бұрын

What about using the ancient Egyptian map From the Egyptian book of the dead To find the lost city of Atlantis

@situationsixtynine8743 7 ай бұрын

Good luck with that 😅

@billmiller4972 7 ай бұрын

This map was buried with the king that conquered this vast (for the time) empire?

@MegalithHunter 7 ай бұрын

Supposedly it was reused at a later date but they would make more sense in my opinion.

@Tydan 7 ай бұрын

Where is it now ? Is it still in Brittany ? has it been robbed out of Brittany like so many artifacts belonging to the Bretons and their ancestors ?

@MegalithHunter 7 ай бұрын

With the research team presumably which is a collaboration of local entities as I mention in the video.

@Tydan 7 ай бұрын

@@MegalithHunter Thanks

@maisondusuave 7 ай бұрын

Just for you to know, convention has cyst in this context pronounced kyst. Kind of thing one doesn't learn from reading.

@rosifervincent9481 7 ай бұрын

Cist. Or kist.

@MegalithHunter 7 ай бұрын

Thank you

@robertfarrow5853 7 ай бұрын

Topography.

@BRIANJAMESGIBB 7 ай бұрын

'K' ist A cist is a very different phenomenon See y'r doctor :)

@BRIANJAMESGIBB 7 ай бұрын

"Kist" as in chest A container ...does oddly relate to the other meaning of the word cist but there is a thing about enunciation X :)

@caledoniantours220 7 ай бұрын

Great, but "cist' is pronounced as'kist'.

@MegalithHunter 7 ай бұрын

I realised that after. But too late to change 😒

@samspade2657 7 ай бұрын

But does she know how to make a sandwich?

@Horus2Osiris 7 ай бұрын

Blah blah blah... Read the Thiaoouba Prophecy by Michel Desmarquet

@TheQuantumstew 7 ай бұрын

Why don't you make a video about if it's so important. Oh you don't have any videos?. Hmm but you feel compelled to blah blah blah someone who is making an effort at finding truth. Making no claim to having all the answers she is simply trying to shed light in a subject that has been purposely hidden from us and you acting all know it all while providing nothing but an overly inflated ego and perhaps some knowledge perhaps some lies. We choose daily the way we may make the world a better or worse place? Do you think your comment helper or hurt?. I'm not trying to be all high and mighty.. rather I know that your behavior effects the world I exist in. And maybe your not aware of that. So just wanted to take the opportunity to remind you that words matter, but the energy behind the words matter more. I hope your day is good and the world shine on u and remind you of the power of love and the power of hope and belief.