The Secret Weapon Porsche's 911 Can’t Have

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Porsche’s 911 can't have the new suspension that has their 4-door cars setting hypercar lap times. So, how does it work? Let’s get into it!
The Taycan Turbo GT with Weissach package has beaten the Tesla Model S Plaid at two iconic tracks: The Nurburgring and Laguna Seca. It’s even close to the Rimac Nevera and McLaren Senna, both of which are much more expensive and have much better power-to-weight. The secret is Porsche's Active Ride suspension. According to a test driver, by using virtual springs, it “can basically fake physics.” Let’s figure out what that means, how it works, and why the current 911 can’t handle it. But this could be a glimpse at the future, because a hybrid Porsche 911 is coming for 2025.
00:00 Porsche Active Ride
00:27 Target: Hypercars
02:10 Weissach Taycan
03:52 Weight Transfer
05:23 Springs
06:54 Shock Absorbers
08:13 Dampers Modify Spring Rate
08:48 Active Ride Dampers
09:26 Why Not Stiff Springs?
10:17 Virtual Springs
11:02 The Energy Problem
11:34 Why Not 911?
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@soulshinobi 17 күн бұрын

There's an old joke that if you ask an engineer to design you a dampener, he'll stop by your desk with a wet sponge. A dampener dampens (makes wet), and damper damps (controls motion).

@ScottOrd 12 күн бұрын

You're dam(p) right about that.

@TheBierp 17 күн бұрын

"Dampers don't usually choose violence." 🤣

@Arct0dus 6 күн бұрын

nah, they're more likely to keep things calm 😂😂

@mayh3xx 17 күн бұрын

I feel like this is going to change racing/suspension technology forever.. its so incredibly smart.

@OVERDRIVE.studios 17 күн бұрын

Agree, but unfortunately active suspension is banned by many race series!

@DrVort 17 күн бұрын

@@OVERDRIVE.studios as so many other awesome technologies that make cars too fast to drive. And too expensive, probably. I'm so curious to see what modern cars are capable of with lack of regulations and some awesome engineers unleashed!

@RichardEnglander 16 күн бұрын

@OVERDRIVE.studios Renault Williams had active suspension in 92 ish... Got banned.

@phoenix4193 10 күн бұрын

in the 90’s williams f1 had this until it got banned

@roflchopter11 8 күн бұрын

F1 had it in, I believe, the 1990s, then it was banned.

@jzb8380 17 күн бұрын

“Porsche’s adult rhino” 😂

@Platypus_Warrior 12 күн бұрын

The meme was really funny

@alexreitler 11 күн бұрын

If you think about it, 13 times a second is not that much. At 100km/h, that is one adjustment every 2.2 meters. It definitely won't make potholes feel buttery smooth at high speeds, but it's still of course more than enough to be extremely useful for countering weight shifting and smoothing out speed bumps at city speeds. Also, I think that the car doesn't 'calculate' the damping 13 times a second, rather much faster, but the hardware is the limiting factor

@nickk707 9 күн бұрын

It will make potholes as smooth as can be compared to every other car ever made

@alexreitler 8 күн бұрын

@@nickk707 Rolls Royce has a very similar system, and that one is made purely to make potholes feel as smooth as possible, so unless someone confirms that this system is better, we can't know

@nickk707 7 күн бұрын

@@alexreitler rolls have an air spring system that is very good but this in a step above

@insidemordecai 17 күн бұрын

Cool video and tech actually but feels like a Driver 61 video and not Overdrive

@OVERDRIVE.studios 17 күн бұрын

Glad you liked the video! Driver 61 is motorsports, Overdrive is road cars. Obviously that'll overlap from time to time since lots of core concepts apply to either, but many viewers aren't interested in both.

@insidemordecai 17 күн бұрын

@@OVERDRIVE.studios fair enough. Never thought of the two channels being essentially road cars vs motorsport. Makes sense though.

@legleg752 17 күн бұрын

bascially a more modern version of the BOSE system from many years ago. that system enabled the car to be able to bunny hop over obstacles in the road at speed but was very heavy and never ended up being used in a production car

@gmmo 17 күн бұрын

it is in nio et9 around 2025

@DrVort 17 күн бұрын

Yeah, recalled that thing as well. FINALLY it is in a production car, albeit I believe that one was full electric actuator, this one hydraulic.

@janzugic6798 9 күн бұрын

not even close, completely different systems and goals.

@theo5846 4 күн бұрын

Well the end product of the spring is about the same but the bose system used electromagnets an tons of electronics which makes it much heavier

@BioFake1 17 күн бұрын

Citroën be like : You know about the Xantia Activa, right ? Riiiiiight ? And my concern is the same than it was with the Citroën : reliability ! It's all fun to do a single Nürb lap, when will we see it on the 24H of Le Mans Porsche ?

@OVERDRIVE.studios 17 күн бұрын

Unfortunately, Le Mans regulations don't allow active suspension!

@BioFake1 17 күн бұрын

@@OVERDRIVE.studios Even in box 56 ?

@OVERDRIVE.studios 17 күн бұрын

Great question, and I don't know the answer! Since garage 56 is hand-picked each year, I suppose they can choose whatever car they want, with whatever technology. I believe the only technical regulations are for safety.

@BioFake1 17 күн бұрын

@@OVERDRIVE.studios Ok, thank you so much !

@trance9158 13 күн бұрын

Hahaha hahaha hahaha your first mistake is comparing Citroen to Porsche.

@asaflevy1540 17 күн бұрын

Been driving a Citroen with "Active Ride suspension" or more accurately, hydropneumatic suspension for 11 years now, good to see other makers catch on, It's the best suspension. Edit: I know Citroen has the patents, which is the reason not many makers have licensed the tech, apart from a few exceptions.

@thewaywardgrape3838 12 күн бұрын

I'm adapting such a system for my project car. Should be interesting results!

@Dario01 16 күн бұрын

Changing the way " physics " work is something phenomenal from an engineering side but will destroy the feeling of driving. It will be very comfortable and fast in a " fake " way. It's a double edge sword from my point of view, but an excellent work from the Porsche team for sure

@OVERDRIVE.studios 16 күн бұрын

Road & Track published a review by Jethro Bovingdon today where he said exactly this about the Panamera with Active Ride. He says skip it because it doesn't "feel right."

@Case16710 16 күн бұрын

I’d be surprised if they aren’t uploading a map of the track to the suspension computer for these record attempts, like the 1992 Williams F1 car. This would allow the car to switch set ups for each corner, straight, and acceleration (deceleration) event, rather than simply reacting.

@OVERDRIVE.studios 16 күн бұрын

If they aren't doing it already, they might be soon! Porsche has partnered with a company called ClearMotion who develops software that can adjust suspension based on crowd-sourced location data about road conditions. ClearMotion also bought the active suspension technology originally developed by Bose, which was revolutionary.

@Case16710 16 күн бұрын

@@OVERDRIVE.studios interesting. Yes, I remember seeing test footage of the Bose system. It could lift the wheels going over speed bumps at speed, so the chassis barely moved at all.

@1InVader1 10 күн бұрын

The Williams F1 was running on a C64 processor. We have much faster processors now. You can just have a sensors on the front of the car, calculate the surface bumpiness and inertia in real-time and adjust as necessary. That way it will work anywhere any time. Ferrari for example doesn't even use hydraulics for this anymore. Their active suspension is just a bunch of gears driven by a 48V electric motor rotating a screw that extends or lowers a shaft to control the suspension. There's 2 very small spool valves with hydraulic fluid in them (these are the actual dampers), but these are only for smoothing the micro-vibrations. Like with the Porsche, the springs are soft and just support the car's weight, so that the suspension motors don't have to waste energy on that.

@Drunken_Hamster 14 күн бұрын

The specific quoted voltage doesn't matter as much as the total system wattage. As long as your system can support the amperage, you can technically run it on 1 volt. My point is, I don't think Porsche needs the full 400v EV system to run this, they may be able to do it on a mild hybrid 48-96v system that can run in place of the starter and alternator (AKA, it'd be a starter/generator) on the 911. This is especially true if the system was dedicated to only powering the active ride control.

@mr0big 13 күн бұрын

That 77ms response time seems a bit slow to me. At 100km/h that's more than 2 meters of travel. Compared that to cheap hobby drones are running an 8khz control loop, and are able to adjust motor speeds 1200 times a second. I think there is still much left at the table, and we will see great wonders coming.

@SafffOneee 12 күн бұрын

That's exactly what I wondered there's a comment comparing this to predictive suspension and I was wondering there if maybe the distance travelled seems more in my head than it actually is but 2m is a LOT and that's just at legal speeds! On a track it'll be an entire section of the corner behind! Also idk if you can feel 13x/sec but 77ms is definitely tangible eye blink is 25ms & 10ms is still detectible

@z06van21 10 күн бұрын

Magnaride (MRC) is much quicker reacting

@beanapprentice1687 9 күн бұрын

The mechanical feedback time is the limiting factor here. The software could react much faster.

@z06van21 5 күн бұрын

@@beanapprentice1687 YEP, THIS!! That is why MRC is so quick, there is nothing mechanical about its operation, it's all magnetic and electrical charges

@roflchopter11 8 күн бұрын

4:19 Spring rates don't change study state load transfer. Firmer springs make the weight transfer faster. All the system does is tweak the transient response of weight transfer. Clearly it's very effective, but it does not change the total weight transfer.

@DrVort 17 күн бұрын

I've been waiting for this tech to go on something in production for years, since seen that american video from 90-s with electric actuators instead of spring and damper. Finally we're here!..

@DChrls 16 күн бұрын

I rode in a Panamera 4S a few weeks ago and the ride was not what I was expecting. I was expecting something like my 2020 300S but it was butter smooth and sharp in corners. This new suspension must be amazing.

@JohnCharb87 17 күн бұрын

I've driven a old Ford Crown Victoria Police Interceptor as a surplus local government work vehicle. Everything shown during the old vs new section at 8:04 is legit. It can go really fast when pushed. However over rough roads you feel everything.

@thiago4santos 16 күн бұрын

The hybrid 911 is inevitable, bring it on.

@OVERDRIVE.studios 16 күн бұрын

Yup! Porsche is revealing it on May 28.

@stupidocanerosa 17 күн бұрын

I imagine a car with those suspensions, active cambering like the Lamborghini, 4 wheel drive and 4 wheel steering... It should beat any Nurburgring laptime in reverse.

@stepan.poluianov 17 күн бұрын

Though exactly the same! When will Porsche and Lamborghini combine their tech?

@OVERDRIVE.studios 16 күн бұрын

Really good question. VW Group makes strange decisions about which brands share technology. VW shares with Audi, Audi shares with Lamborghini, but VW doesn't share with Lamborghini (to the best of my knowledge, anyway). So who knows if it'll happen for Porsche and Lamborghini?

@stupidocanerosa 16 күн бұрын

@@OVERDRIVE.studios I do believe it's a matter of societary status. VW and Audi are basically the same factory with the same products. Of course Audi is Audi and has a much more premium line up and clientele. Downscaling the wide variety of models we can say the same for Skoda and Seat. While Porsche and Lamborghini are strange animals with a very specific customer's target. They want and need to remain "independent" and do their thing, otherwise the risk of losing the core enthusiasts is high. Yes, they share surely some parts, in some cases big ones (Cayenne 3.2 V6) but the target are different. Maybe Lamborghini is trying to enter into the more sporty realm of Porsche to be back in business against Ferrari. Or maybe , as said above, the two brands simply maintain more independence from the group than expected.

@beanapprentice1687 9 күн бұрын

@@stupidocanerosa just Imagine: a VW Group hypercar with all the best tech from Audi, Porsche, Lamborghini, Bugatti, and now Rimac. The thing would eat Koenigseggs for breakfast.

@stupidocanerosa 8 күн бұрын

@@beanapprentice1687 A W16 Bugatti with Rimac hybrid system, Audi Quattro traction, Porsche suspensions and brakes and Lambo styling and active cambering.

@maxbrainbox 17 күн бұрын

The Citroën Xantia Activa (1990-ties) managed to do all this, reliably and with excellent ride quality and handling at 12V. (granted: it wasn't electric but hydropneumatic)

@stupidocanerosa 17 күн бұрын

Reliably?

@maxbrainbox 16 күн бұрын

@@stupidocanerosa I drove one for 8 years

@valentinn3507 2 күн бұрын

Very well explained!

@Ledshot 17 күн бұрын

I miss what this channel was.

@jamdc2000 17 күн бұрын

this channel had a good run, thanks guys from Overdrive

@RobManser77 5 күн бұрын

Very clever, but in answer to your question, it depends whether you want enjoyment or pace. I’ve recently bought the slowest car I’ve ever owned by a long way, an MX5 mk2.5, and have modified it for ride, handling and feedback and left the puny engine alone. It’s great! For the first time ever, the fastest car I own is my long distance cruiser, and it really doesn’t matter to me. So whilst I’d be fascinated to see a bonkers hybrid 911 with active ride, I’d personally be happier in a 996 GT3, or even a modded 964 C2. I just like driving, and the less weight the better, and usually the fewer gizmos the better too. For me driving enjoyment is a Caterham, a Formula Ford, or something like that, not a mad computerised hypercar.

@jamsbong 17 күн бұрын

The active suspension is driven by hydraulics and sounds like the hydraulic pump is driven off a 400V electricity. So it can be fitted to a combustion car with an auxiliary pump.

@OVERDRIVE.studios 17 күн бұрын

A belt driven pump might not be able to produce enough pressure in the system to create 77ms changes in suspension characteristics. Another way is with a secondary high-voltage alternator. Bose did this with their experimental active suspension. The downside was that the alternator was heavy and consumed 5-6 hp.

@jamsbong 17 күн бұрын

@@OVERDRIVE.studios auxiliary drive is more than capable of carrying 100+ HP. Supercharged engine uses this set up.

@procatprocat9647 17 күн бұрын

@@OVERDRIVE.studios Capacitors might be the soliution in this case

@stupidocanerosa 17 күн бұрын

@@procatprocat9647 But you have to charge them, so back to the top

@smallbutdeadly931 17 күн бұрын

Honestly, a 5-6hp loss is worth it for being able to have active suspension, especially on higher horsepower cars. You're trading some straightline speed for much improved cornering speed.

@jimj2683 12 күн бұрын

I test drove the new Panamera with this system. It is very cool, but for ride comfort on bad roads it is super overrated. Just choosing the cheaper smaller rims (higher tire sidewalls) will give you a much better improvement in ride quality. There are only very specific frequencies at which this suspension helps ride quality (as seen in their marketing videos).

@Ps5prolite 7 күн бұрын

This Porsche suspension is a ClearMotion suspension. Lots of false information. It’s overrated tech.

@myownsite 17 күн бұрын

It's no secret that Xantia Activa punched way above its power to weight thanks to its active suspension. Glad to finally see a modern take, even if it's hideously expensive and complex. Neither of which applied to what Citroen achieved in 90s.

@TickerSymbolYOU 9 күн бұрын

This is a GREAT video. Thanks for the detailed explanation and context!

@OVERDRIVE.studios 9 күн бұрын

Glad you enjoyed it!

@BOBimusRex 17 күн бұрын

Damp and dampen are interchangeable when used as verbs in this context. So dampers and dampeners would be as well.

@OVERDRIVE.studios 17 күн бұрын

I believe this is the right answer but there are people who get heated about which one is correct!

@peglor 8 күн бұрын

What word do you use for something that wets things if dampener is taken to mean the same as damper?

@Chainsaw-ASMR 13 күн бұрын

3:46 I think you made a units error. No spec of HMMWV weighs 4900 lbs. The base spec is 7500 lbs BUT the armored HMMVW that you showed weighs over 10,000 lbs.

@jambazz 9 күн бұрын

Great explanation of springs and dampeners, i absolutely learned something here today! :Clap:

@OVERDRIVE.studios 9 күн бұрын

Glad to hear it!

@future62 13 күн бұрын

I'm surprised they use a lot of energy since they should be able to absorb a lot of energy to feed back to the battery. Bigger concern for me though is cost/maintenance/reliability. I am scared to see the price of a replacement damper.

@peglor 8 күн бұрын

There's no reason an electromagnetic system couldn't charge the battery using energy harvested from the suspension on rough roads. It's just waste heat in the dampers otherwise - to get an idea how much, they change dampers between stages on rallys when they can, because they heat up enough that the damper oil viscosity can drift out of the design range. They can be too hot to hold with bare hands.

@Espadrilles_Racing 12 күн бұрын

That was interesting 😊

@MTbone7 17 күн бұрын

I have a pretzel in my head!

@millersadventure 12 күн бұрын

you have definitely made an electrified 911 much more interesting.

@zounds13 14 сағат бұрын

"Damper" is historically correct. However, "dampener" is so widely misused by now that it is well on its way to being a legitimate alternative. This is how languages evolve. The same is true for "caster" vs. "castor."

@johnelectric933 13 күн бұрын

I thought for a long while that was what the "active suspension" from F1 years ago was, I was disappointed that it was just ride height. Also, 13 samples per second seems slow, but I guess that is smoothed by the low spring rate.

@johncallahan118 17 күн бұрын

Hi ! 👋 Nice video, very insightful. Keep doing what you’re doing. 😃 Take care. 😄

@akurbyburby 17 күн бұрын

free the brands hatch indy circuit lap record holder

@trance9158 13 күн бұрын

I found this interesting... especially being a Porsche fanatic.

@ukwan 16 күн бұрын

Mercedes was doing this with the C215 (CL Coupé) 25 years ago, if you've ever lobbed one of those two tonne monsters down a road its surprising how well they drive for such a huge vehicle.

@peglor 8 күн бұрын

The good old days when 2 tonnes was a monstrously heavy car.

@kburke1965 13 күн бұрын

Spring rates won’t meaningfully affect the amount of weight transfer which is almost entirely a function of cg height and wheelbase / track. Active suspension will affect the rate of weight transfer and will dramatically reduce the momentum effects of the body sloshing around under change of direction.

@peanuts2105 11 күн бұрын

Mclaren are THE best in suspension technology. I've never driven a car with such ferocity and compliance in one car

@grantlauzon5237 4 күн бұрын

A humvee might weigh 5900lbs but the one in the picture with the armor and turret probably weighs 7000-10000lbs

@Ps5prolite 7 күн бұрын

This suspension is an outsourced part shared with China’s Nio. They are both supplied by the same company called ClearMotion. That company also bought the Bose suspension patent. Lots of false information out there saying Porsche designed this. They did not.

@corpsecoder_nw6746 11 күн бұрын

I wonder if the Taycan can go between Nurburgring track record suspension settings to NIO glass balancing (without spillage) on a bumpy test track, all with just software and changes in modes.....would be cool if it did.

@carmatic 6 күн бұрын

it would be cool if they can take this technology to a rally...where the suspension really matters

@Seyeler 17 күн бұрын

I wonder how this suspension would help tire deg. Hypercar/LmDH wouldn’t allow it, but man this should be on a prototype.

@OVERDRIVE.studios 17 күн бұрын

That's a really interesting question. We didn't cover this, but the system is programmed to take advantage of normal camber changes that occur as the suspension compresses or extends, to maximize contact patch. That would also help keep temperature and wear more even, potentially reducing degradation.

@motomadman573 17 күн бұрын

I find it crazy how i thought about this idea a while back. The leaning into a corner to maximise turning speed with the weight balance.

@JazzbLu 16 күн бұрын

Great video and information! Although you are very much wrong about the weight of a Humvee. The lightest version of the HMMWV or Humvee is 5,900 pounds. That's 1,000 more than this Taycan.

@OVERDRIVE.studios 16 күн бұрын

Lightest I found was M998 A0 at 5,200 lbs. Weissach Taycan is 4,925lbs. Figured a difference of 275 lbs wasn't *too* hyperbolic at those weights!

@shoryuag 13 күн бұрын

@@OVERDRIVE.studiosWhy show a picture of an up-armored HMMWV and not an M998, though? The armor makes them much, much heavier, to the point of ruining the comparison.

@Fin240R 17 күн бұрын

Cool video, I think electric cars have a lot of potential once we get over the massive weight but they will never have a real v8 feel 😢

@thewaywardgrape3838 12 күн бұрын

3:35 - A little over one Volvo V70 lol

@leenux1707 17 күн бұрын

It's a Porsche xantia activa

@stevehardyuk 17 күн бұрын

Williams did this ages ago, so what is the difference? Over 30 years and technology has move on but is it not the same thing, Scott?

@StevenJonSmith 8 күн бұрын

This all sounds very similar to the active suspension in my 1995 Mitsubishi 3000GT, probably a bit more reactive now but the same idea.

@peglor 8 күн бұрын

Mitsubishi were ridiculously ahead of their time in the 1990s, sadly the past 2 decades haven't gone well for them. I had the pleasure of driving one of the MIVEC cars a few years back, and, unlike a lot of the VTEC Hondas, they chose gearbox ratios that allowed you to keep it in high revving MIVEC mode all the time, while the Hondas would drop off VTEC and bog down after each gear shift, even shifting at the red line.

@HTOP1982 11 күн бұрын

Does it cushion from the pain of depreciation?

@l33tLX 8 күн бұрын

Power to weight means nothing. Torque at the wheels to weight is everything

@jakejansen16 17 күн бұрын

No talk about the lotus evija, a prototype EV that lapped a 6:24?

@OVERDRIVE.studios 17 күн бұрын

Nope! The Evija X is a heavily modified track-only version. If they'd done a lap in the road-going Evija, that would be different, and they should! It's 1,000 lbs. lighter than the Rimac!

@Robin-hg5cq 10 күн бұрын

6:28 there is no change in air pressure, only in air volume.

@420BudNuggets 9 күн бұрын

Sounds expensive af to fix 😂

@johnathankrausrig9237 11 күн бұрын

I am really impressed how Porsches managed to sell a hybrid 911 as a upgrade to customers, which are notoriously disliking electrification in cars. I think the taycan is a glimpse, how hard the new 911 will demolish anything on track

@SonicProvocateur 10 күн бұрын

Jorg Bergmeister just clocked the new hybrid 911 test mule at 8.7s faster on the ring than the previous gen. That's properly fast.

@johnathankrausrig9237 10 күн бұрын

@@SonicProvocateur just 9s? Maybe I was too optimistic here

@SonicProvocateur 8 күн бұрын

@@johnathankrausrig9237 8.7s faster than the Turbo S

@LUMLTZ05 17 күн бұрын

Can you please compare it to Audi S8 predictive suspension

@OVERDRIVE.studios 17 күн бұрын

Didn't have time to cover that in this video, but there are two big differences. The Audi uses air springs to adjust the suspension and it scans the road ahead to adjust predictively. Porsche determined that because their system can react within 77ms, partly because it doesn't rely on adjusting air springs, it wasn't worth the added complexity to scan and predict.

@LUMLTZ05 17 күн бұрын

@@OVERDRIVE.studios Thanks so much for the info. AFAIK Audi predictive suspension uses motors along each air suspension with 48v, it can tilt and keep level in corners and acceleration. It would be interesting to see the main differences and design decisions as both fro VW groupe. Thanks again for your content, keep it up!

@autotea 17 күн бұрын

@@LUMLTZ05 Yup, that's correct. The Audi is mild-hybrid which mildly solves the energy problem

@SafffOneee 12 күн бұрын

@@OVERDRIVE.studiosGlad this came up - it's proven itself but still 77ms seems slow? It's 3 times slower than the blink of an eye. At speed that's significant ground covered. I don't get how it can adjust dampers quick enough compared with if it could scan ahead? Or maybe I'm picturing the ground covered in that time as more than it actually will and in that timeframe it'll still capture the bump or dip in the road?

@jamesbeck1600 12 күн бұрын

My ‘02 LX470 has a hydraulic suspension much like this… wonder what my lap time would be

@ivan_domangaming9359 17 күн бұрын

I remember Lexus having something like this years ago, but that was for comfort an Porsche did it for performance

@benjisprengt1108 10 күн бұрын

Imagine a hybrid, active suspension gt2 rs

@Greenmonkey552 11 күн бұрын

AKA the same suspension Ferrari and Mercedes borrow from GM, used on the Corvette since 2007? Impressive?

@antonio_fosnjar 6 күн бұрын

Porsche is on fire as of late, new Taycan and Macan EVs are practically at Tesla level of power an efficiency. They leapfroged everyone and are actually making meaningfull innovations in the car industry.

@wisi4044 9 күн бұрын

Porsche 911 992.2 testcars are on the street with hybrid so the insane suspension will come in the 911 and they will go in corners like nothing

@ZephyR_73_F1 11 күн бұрын

What happened to the spanish dubbing? the audio option does not appear

@Arct0dus 6 күн бұрын

Imagine (Porsche) cars would scan the road and predict your behaviour (which line you will drive etc.) and use that data to update ARS even more often. Wold this even be an improvement? I don't know, but mabye...

@kevinburke6743 17 күн бұрын

It will make the 911 almost as good as the Boxster "S". Active ride Suspension, Independent individual wheel Steering by wire. Braking by wire with Wheel Hub Motors with Regen Braking. Then we are almost all the same 4 combined units one at each corner! Making sure that wheels remain absolutely vertical no matter how far they are turned! Maximum road/ track contact area all of the time!

@darthnatas953 17 күн бұрын

The standard 911 suspension is already superior to the Boxster as it is currently.

@kevinburke6743 16 күн бұрын

@@darthnatas953 That's by choice! Theirs because that what they choose to fit! Don't forget that the Boxster saved Porsche from bankruptcy! the 911 is the ultimate development of the VW BUG! Axle, Transmission, Engine, hanging out the back end! The complete reverse of F1 & Indy cars! The theory is central mass low centre of gravity.

@matthewgalimski3313 8 күн бұрын

I’m 2023 992 owner, funny thing is that my 2002 Mercedes CL have much more advanced suspension than brand new Porsche.

@philipp594 11 күн бұрын

Öhlins was right all along ... act surprised!

@bertram-raven 17 күн бұрын

Customers are not looking favourably on the Taycan range. Most of the last model buyers are finding nobody wants them. Not even companies akin to "We Buy Any Piece of Junk" do not want them at any price.

@peglor 8 күн бұрын

It doesn't matter how cheap a car is to buy when one component costs more than the entire car when it fails. This is why the only good value second hand electric car is one that costs very little but has the good fortune of being reliable. Sadly batteries are not built to be serviced, so it's an all or nothing replacement, and it's not like second hand batteries are promising to be any better, so nobody in the second hand market is going to buy unless they can afford to take a near complete loss on scrapping it as soon as anything goes wrong with the battery.

@roflchopter11 8 күн бұрын

A failing or failed damper is a dampener.

@536lion5 11 күн бұрын

What about bose with their suspension using electromagnets. It was an experiment but still.

@Rui725 14 күн бұрын

Is ARS legal or used in gt racing? Edit, just watched the end of the video, needs a high voltage battery 😂

@karldewet5393 14 күн бұрын

Glad to see cars are finally catching up to the UZZ32 Active Suspension Toyota Soarer from 1991. The most sophisticated road car every made.

@youknowitsGORT 17 күн бұрын

Let’s go

@adrianlivesey4375 9 күн бұрын

But Lotus did this is 1980 on an Esprit?

@thewayfaringanarchists8157 14 күн бұрын

Is it a reason to get excited? No. We fear change

@Porschelover456 8 күн бұрын

The car will feel unnatural, it is not only about performance! The most important things at a sport car are feeling, pleasure, the natural balance, fun, be reliable, and to feel involved. With electric steering and electric braking already it start a downfall. To have a mechanical and simple car is way more interesting.

@Cj1200-tz1gx 17 күн бұрын

Where is Callum & Will?

@TosterCx 17 күн бұрын

Will started Top Dead Center, Callum left to work for Ali Abdaal on something, but I don't think he's in any videos.

@dantevito1193 17 күн бұрын

Search "why we left car throttle", you should find 2 videos from 2 new channels

@DragonFruitYTUK 8 күн бұрын

Dampeners

@hellcat3522 16 күн бұрын

A damper dampens

@peglor 8 күн бұрын

It damps. A wet sponge dampens.

@bakero14 8 күн бұрын

Gt2 rs hybrid with active suspension

@whiteandnerdytuba 15 күн бұрын

Rimac and senna aren’t hyper cars. But nice to see the Mercedes suspension go to other cars

@mcsike7264 9 күн бұрын

They are the rimac will walk a Bugatti super sport 😂

@whiteandnerdytuba 9 күн бұрын

@@mcsike7264 you mean the rimac that's 50 mph slower or the one that's 80 mph slower?

@mcsike7264 9 күн бұрын

@@whiteandnerdytuba wow i thought it would be way bigger than that anyways was talking about drag racing plenty of videos of it making a Bugatti look like it didn't even move even roll racing even on track so 50 80 more top speed isn't shit when you can't get to it by the time the race is already over 😂

@ScottOrd 12 күн бұрын

*Only* 13 times per second? 😂

@scooby45247 17 күн бұрын

Porsche makes race cars you can drive.. the 911 will get it and set new records..

@educution 17 күн бұрын

I miss Laurel & Hardy.

@Nateclrk 17 күн бұрын

2 Channels sharing the same content... Hmmm

@michaelcordes 17 күн бұрын

I know everyone is complaining about what the channel was etc as they are with other channels. What everyone fails to consider is this content is free, i know channels earn revenue from sponsorship and advertising but it shows continuous projects and stunts just isn't financially viable. It pains me but i have a feeling a lot of our favourite current channels will end up bankrupt or following suit. You can't maintain a business model on KZfaq it's just too uncertain. As a content creator i know the algorithm can hide you without any warning or explanation add to that as misheard word can result in a strike, demonstration and shadow banning, look what happened to jayemm when talking about the lesbos turn at imola. The algorithm decided that it was hate speech!

@MathijnvanderHeijden 12 күн бұрын

as impressive as this is, there is no reason to get excited for electric cars as a consumer, at least not yet. Theres just to many issues and empty promises of fixing them

@alexandrumarinescu1 17 күн бұрын

Leave overdrive Scott. It's time for you to join the AutoAlex universe.

@wanhariz 17 күн бұрын

🤣🤣🤣

@redzone5655 17 күн бұрын

Why? I would be like leaving Oxford for Big Brother or the Bachelor!

@alyousuf 11 күн бұрын

A Hummer is significantly heavier than any Taycan.

@lfox02 13 күн бұрын

Ah, yes, the "four door hypercar" with two seats and the "secret weapon" that is only its most talked about feature.

@morid1n 10 күн бұрын

TIE can. Not Tey. Thanks.

@renereiche 16 күн бұрын

The weight transfer is ALWAYS the same, no matter the springs. You could accelerate a suspension-less, wheel-less 2200kg brick(!)[assuming same dimensions and position of the center-of-gravity] and it would have the same weight transfer as the Taycan. The springs and dampers are there to "smooth" weight transfer (or buffer energy) over time (especially when driving over bumps), while ARBs are there to direct weight-transfer between front and rear, depending on the ARB stiffness ratio front-to-rear. [and the phrase "weight transfer" is bad anyway, we should talk about tire loads or vertical forces]

@514aam 13 күн бұрын

You can add all you want to an electric whale, you would maybe get close to a normal car when cornering, but then add the same to the traditional car and watch the EV get humilliated.

@smallpeople172 2 сағат бұрын

Where can I get an electric whale 😂😂😂😂

@borgir9817 17 күн бұрын

overdrive fell off

@joarnold9495 17 күн бұрын

They really did didn't they

@robertharrington4405 17 күн бұрын

Fell off what?

@wadoryujh 17 күн бұрын

Yup, this isn’t overdrive.

@henryhallam5270 17 күн бұрын

Stop saying things like this, they have stated many times that they cannot afford to make irl videos, because they lost double that the videos were making.

@Snakyy1 17 күн бұрын

It is still a great video, just maybe not the theme of the channel