The Shadow Rising Review (WOT 4)

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Merphy Napier | Manga

Merphy Napier | Manga

4 жыл бұрын

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@Stratocaster893
@Stratocaster893 4 жыл бұрын
The hanging didn't give him the memories. The weirdos in the Ter'Angrel doorway gave him the memories because he asked them to fill up the gaps in his memories. They hung him as payment for the memories and the other things they gave him.
@KibiHofmann
@KibiHofmann 4 жыл бұрын
This
@noshei21
@noshei21 4 жыл бұрын
This is spot on.
@lexer_
@lexer_ 4 жыл бұрын
But it's kind of a spoiler tho? The coming books hints at this more and more strongly. I don't believe it is meant to be fully understood yet.
@GreeneZonee
@GreeneZonee 4 жыл бұрын
They don't explain that until book 11 I'm pretty sure
@lexer_
@lexer_ 4 жыл бұрын
I got it quite a bit sooner than that but yea, it probably is properly confirmed then.
@chadwhitfield6946
@chadwhitfield6946 4 жыл бұрын
One of my favorite scenes is Mat having give up his knives and they just keep piling up to the point even the aiel wise women are impressed.
@KingBowserVlog
@KingBowserVlog 4 жыл бұрын
That was funny
@e443productions9
@e443productions9 4 жыл бұрын
Yup, although, since when does Mat have so many knives?
@xandara75
@xandara75 4 жыл бұрын
@@e443productions9 since he hung around with tom and his jugling ;)
@jasonvanmeir3978
@jasonvanmeir3978 3 жыл бұрын
Also Mats reaction when he sees Rhuarc having two wives was amazing
@manuelp6791
@manuelp6791 3 жыл бұрын
Jason van meir he’s either the luckiest man in the world or the craziest
@Monkeydonkey10
@Monkeydonkey10 3 жыл бұрын
That growth of Perrin in Emonds field was so satisfying.
@Sara866873
@Sara866873 4 жыл бұрын
Mat being hanged on Avendesora and gaining knowledge of the Old Tongue is a paralell to Norse mythology where Odin hangs himself on Yggdrasil and gains knowledge of the runes :)
@baconftw11
@baconftw11 4 жыл бұрын
And on top of that, Mat gets a spear with two ravens carved into it at the same time he gets hanged, which is a clear nod to Odin's spear and his two knowledge-seeking raven companions, Hugin and Munin.
@kev4366
@kev4366 4 жыл бұрын
and if you've finished the series you'lll know there are more Odin Matt comparisons to come
@TechnoMinarchistBall
@TechnoMinarchistBall 4 жыл бұрын
@@kev4366 I mean technically in past and future ages of the Wheel, Matt literally is the origin of the Odin myth.
@androlgenhald476
@androlgenhald476 4 жыл бұрын
Matt's hanging will make more sense later, but he did not get the memories by hanging. He got them as one of his requests, to fill all of the holes missing in his memory that the dagger erased.
@caydenpomeroy8657
@caydenpomeroy8657 4 жыл бұрын
Androl Genhald how’s Pevara doing? Also I like to think of it as the memories being unlocked. They were definitely there before. After he’s healed from the dagger he has visions of commanding troops
@androlgenhald476
@androlgenhald476 4 жыл бұрын
@@caydenpomeroy8657 she's doing great! Thanks for asking! I think you are seriously underrated BTW! . . That's a cool way of looking at it. I could get behind that
@caydenpomeroy8657
@caydenpomeroy8657 4 жыл бұрын
Androl Genhald thanks! I honestly think you’re underrated too, besides Rodel Androl has to be one of my favorite side characters
@basicoptimalmouse
@basicoptimalmouse 2 жыл бұрын
The absolute funniest moment was Min in chapter 1 (I think?) getting told by Siuan Sanche step by step how she will disguise herself, which starts at using her full name, then new clothes, then hair curls, and finally make up - each step ("oh no!") traumatises her. So damn funny.
@cgnefarious5785
@cgnefarious5785 4 жыл бұрын
Merphy - "So much happened in book four!" Lord of Chaos - "Hold my beer."
@Glarbluk
@Glarbluk 4 жыл бұрын
Lord of Chaos still my favorite
@caydenpomeroy8657
@caydenpomeroy8657 4 жыл бұрын
*Box intensifies*
@loser832
@loser832 4 жыл бұрын
I'm currently two thirds through Lord of Chaos, and this is accurate..
@Glarbluk
@Glarbluk 4 жыл бұрын
@@Rendref Oh a huge amount happened if you don't remember. (the ending obviously the biggest thing) I can think of many events in that book and it is widely regarded as one of the best most entertaining books in the series. Spoilers follow: Few of the things just off the top of my head. Rand's bonding, the Black Tower, Nynavae and Logain's thing. Egwene is raised. So MUCH
@Unlitedsoul
@Unlitedsoul 4 жыл бұрын
@@Rendref Let's see. Spoiler warning for anyone who has not read the book! Founding of the Black Tower and Mazrim Taim is put in charge of it. Davram Bashere moves more and more into Rand's influence. Alanna force bonds Rand, which causes him to trust Aes Sedai even less than he already does. At the same time, Verin begins to earn her trust with Rand. Egwene and Gawyn's romance begins, as does the rivalry between Gawyn and Rand (mostly due to misinformation provided to him by black ajah Aes Sedai). Rand sends Matt, Aviendha, and the Band of the Red Hand to help Elayne return to Caemlyn and begin her ascent to the throne, thus announcing his plans for both Andor and Cairhien. It also enhances the bond between Aviendha and Elayne, which also frees up Aviendha's romantic interests with Rand. Min and Rand's romance and personal alliance begins. Rand is captured, Lews Therin comes insanely close to taking him over... while Rand nearly goes mad just from the experience. Rand also learns how to overcome being shielded by 13 Aes Sedai. He also killed 2 warders with his swordsmanship. One of which had a heron-marked blade, thus Rand gets his first true victory over a blade master that didn't involve Matt's luck. Perin begins to show how the ta'veren links to Rand draw the others in by instinctive, almost immediate rush toward Rand with a massive military force made up of both his own and Rand's followers... without actually knowing he was in danger. Salidar Aes Sedai politics are abound, and it gives us some insight on how these things are done within the White Tower. We see a lot of truly intriguing rituals, not to mention all of the background maneuvering through the eyes of Siuan, Leane, and Gareth Brynn. Meanwhile, Nynaeve learns how to heal using the most advanced of Aes Sedai manners... without being trained. She also learns how to heal stilling/gentling. Logain flees and joins the Black Tower as an immediate counter to Taim. Egwene is raised to the Amyrlin Seat of the Salidar Aes Sedai. Elayne figures out how to create cuendillar. She also begins creating other ter'angreal, and starts work on duplicating Matt's fox head medallion. All the major events based in Ebou Dar begin. Then of course, one of the greatest fantasy battles of all time... Dumai's Wells happens. "Asha'men Kill!" leads to "Kneel or you will be knelt." Rand professes distrust of the Aes Sedai. Much of the Shaido Aiel are destroyed, forcing the remnants of Couladin and Savanna's followers to flee and thus begin the Malden story arch. There's enough here to create 3 books from, but you know... doesn't "require 1000 pages."
@usdrealm1
@usdrealm1 4 жыл бұрын
You hit on the exact reason I love Rand so much which is that he struggles to earn and to hold onto every bit of power that he can. He works so much harder at being a leader than anyone else in the series does, and certainly more than anyone (except maybe Lan) gives him credit for, and it just makes his whole character arc feel so much more complete than certain other characters.
@briankinsey3339
@briankinsey3339 2 жыл бұрын
Book 4 isn't necessarily where Mat starts to shine, but it is the book that sets him on the path that will carry him through the series. He went through the doorway in Tear, and didn't like the answers he got, which is why he went through the one in Rhuidean, thinking it would take him back to the Ael'fin (snake people). When it turned out be lead to the Eel'fin (the fox people) instead, he didn't realize that they operated differently. They don't answer questions - they grant requests, in return for a price. His inadvertent requests while trying to get them to give him answers led to the old memories filling the gaps left from the severing of his link with the dagger, the foxhead medallion, and the Ashendrai spear/polearm. Those are their ways of giving him "these holes filled", "a way to be free of Aes Sedai and the Power", and "a way to be away from you and back to Rhuidean". (The last one doesn't become obvious until much later in the series, however). The price, since he didn't ask to get out alive, was to be hung. Together, those three "gifts" start to make him into who and what he will become. I wont' completely spoil that, except to say that you start to see it in Book 5. That's where I started to really like Mat.
@cncoo2001
@cncoo2001 4 жыл бұрын
I've only read through the series once so far and I can understand why people think Perrin is boring but I don't agree. Perrin is a stable base, hes not teetering on the edge of madness, he's not a jokester, he is sure and steady. His character reminds me of the way a blacksmith works, if all you look at is them banging on metal it looks boring, but if you watch and appreciate the skill that it takes to shape a hunk of metal into something useful, when you u derstand the repetition it can be beautiful.
@grafffuller3265
@grafffuller3265 4 жыл бұрын
Nate Cooper - great thought. Thanks.
@michaelboyd8537
@michaelboyd8537 4 жыл бұрын
Matt my favorite. But all 3 are awesome
@WapitalismandWreedom
@WapitalismandWreedom 3 жыл бұрын
I wouldve been happy if Perrin didnt show up until book 12. He is absolutely useless for 6 books
@aliciagroenewald3863
@aliciagroenewald3863 3 жыл бұрын
Perrin is my love and he is my favourite character ❤
@nadz752
@nadz752 Жыл бұрын
First 4 books - Perrin was my fav arc (i have just started book 6)
@patcheskipp
@patcheskipp 4 жыл бұрын
I think all of Mat's new memories are all of his past lives, so they took his request of having his missing memories to the extreme
@MrT115
@MrT115 4 жыл бұрын
What did you think of the sequence when Rand sees life through his ancestors eyes. I think it's an awesome way to give the backstory to everything from the Aiel origins to seeing the Green man being tasked to guard the horn to seeing the time when the Dark One was released on the world. I recommend that you re-read just that scene cause there's a lot of cool things there that you don't get with one reading. Eagerly waiting for your review of book 5.
@derrickjohnson7896
@derrickjohnson7896 4 жыл бұрын
Adding on to this, it's badass that Robert Jordan hints at the sc-fi lore of the Age Of Legends with hoverflys in Rand's flashbacks
@KingBowserVlog
@KingBowserVlog 4 жыл бұрын
On my first read through, this whole sequence felt bloated and unnecesary until you find out why it was important at the end
@o.steinman3855
@o.steinman3855 Жыл бұрын
that bit blew my fucking mind. absolutely the best moment so far
@pl9462
@pl9462 21 күн бұрын
Just finished book four and it‘s probably my fabourite moment of the series so far along with the flicker, flicker scene.
@beyonddaylight5556
@beyonddaylight5556 2 жыл бұрын
The whole section with Rand learning the history through flashbacks is one of my favourite parts of the series so far. I'm on book 10, so there's still time for that to be topped though.
@musasametonlu9961
@musasametonlu9961 Жыл бұрын
Which book in the series did you like reading the most?
@beyonddaylight5556
@beyonddaylight5556 Жыл бұрын
@@musasametonlu9961 That's such a hard question! I think probably 4, 6, 11, and 12 are all up there for me. How about you?
@musasametonlu9961
@musasametonlu9961 Жыл бұрын
@@beyonddaylight5556 I have read the first 3 books. And each time I started reading a new one, it became my favourite. I love all 4 of them but my fav is book 2. I knew from the beginning reading this series would be interesting. The good thing about the series is that Jordan keeps putting new stuff in each book. He expands his own story and i like being introduced to new aspects of this world every book.
@beyonddaylight5556
@beyonddaylight5556 Жыл бұрын
@@musasametonlu9961 Ah I'm very jealous that you have so much of the series left to read! I've finished the series and I'm trying to find something to fill the void 😅
@musasametonlu9961
@musasametonlu9961 Жыл бұрын
@@beyonddaylight5556 ohhhh I feel you. That is what happened to me when I got through all HP books as a kid. And I know I will have that same feeling about WoT as well. I guess I won't be able to name a fav book after I am done with the series because I don't read WoT for the events, I read it to get a glimpse of that universe and aspects of characters and their motivations. I may not be an ideal fantasy book reader because I read the series like how I read Tolstoy etc.
@johanjarvinen
@johanjarvinen 4 жыл бұрын
1. Nynaeve and Elayne went to Tanchico, Perrin and Faile went to the Two Rivers where Perrin is from. 2. Selene appeared in book 2 (Rand was barely in book 3). 3. The archways in Tear and Rhuidean work on the principle of three questions or three requests and a price set according to what is asked. Mat's three requests in Rhuidean were to have the holes in his memories filled (he receives the memories of others who've ventured into the realm of the Finn), protection from Aes Sedai and a way back to Rhuidean. The price for him is to be hanged. It's an Odin reference, being hanged for knowledge. 4. The secret of the Aiel past is revealed to the Aiel in the end by Rand, as a way of proving that he's the Car'a'carn. This will be explored further in the next book.
@adamleite5787
@adamleite5787 4 жыл бұрын
Johan Järvinen the third request was not a way to get back to rhuidean it was a way to leave the realm n he was hang because that was the payment for the three request
@lppunto
@lppunto 4 жыл бұрын
4:45 This is a perfect summary of Robert Jordan's take on character. You may hate them at points, but you can't help but love how well done they are.
@grafffuller3265
@grafffuller3265 4 жыл бұрын
Totally agree.
@tommy_svk
@tommy_svk 4 жыл бұрын
Some clarificafion for ya Merphs! Mat got the memories of his ancestors from those fox people. They basically grant you three wishes but demand a price. During a conversation with them Mat says something like "damn I wish my memories didn't have so many holes" so the fox people take it as a wish and so they fill the holes in his memories, with memories of his ancestors. They hang him afterwards because Mat didn't say what he's going to pay for the wishes, so the fox people decided that he has to pay with his life. You can reread that section and try to see what Mat accidentaly wishes for. As for the visions of the past that Rand sees, it's really humiliating for the Aiel, because their whole culture is about the fact that they are honorable warriors who always fulfill their oaths. So when they find out that their ancestors were originally pacifists and they broke their oaths and became warriors, it's a very crushing revelation to them. By the way you nailed the pronunciations this time! If you have any more questions, feel free to ask :) Lovely review, can't wait for you to finish Book 5! Also if you ever get confused while reading, try looking in the glossary at the end of each book. It can really help clear some things up, especially if you don't remember who character X is. Only works for the more major characters though, you won't find every single minor Aes Sedai there.
@KibiHofmann
@KibiHofmann 4 жыл бұрын
Don't think it's his ancestors. Just a lot of people who were warriors in the past.
@BonoboAxMonkey
@BonoboAxMonkey 4 жыл бұрын
@@KibiHofmann I think it is mooted at some point that at least some are ancestors as he has memories of the fall of Maneteren (the old blood sings).
@nickywal
@nickywal 4 жыл бұрын
Mat's memories are not ancestors, he remembers at the very least fighting both for and against Hawkwing. Its just generals who asked for advice
@jasonkoelewyn894
@jasonkoelewyn894 4 жыл бұрын
Patrim that is not correct. The answer is technically a spoiler so I don’t want to post it here even with a tag. But there is a good reason why you are not correct and it is deductible from what happens in this book
@jasonkoelewyn894
@jasonkoelewyn894 4 жыл бұрын
And no. Ancestors is not correct either
@Hadrian1616
@Hadrian1616 4 жыл бұрын
Mat got such a huge boon from the Aelfinn snakes and foxes people from such an off handed request. Unfortunately he also got a curse as payment. Hanged. Spear and medallion are another huge boon. Thanks Merphy.
@grafffuller3265
@grafffuller3265 4 жыл бұрын
Loved your thoughts on this book. Long time WoT fan. No worries about making mistakes or not understanding everything. You’re doing great. Yep, it takes multiple rereads. Take it in as you go. Yes, you’ll read it again and again. It’s like going to a family reunion, each time you read it. Thanks.
@eduardoo31
@eduardoo31 4 жыл бұрын
I actually only started really liking Mat on #7, but as of right now (beginning of #12) Egwene is my favorite. She gets SO awesome later on.
@bradleypeterson2322
@bradleypeterson2322 4 жыл бұрын
Eduardo Oliveira Crown of Swords is so underrated. That’s where my love for Mat started too
@shannon2123
@shannon2123 3 жыл бұрын
I’ve always found Egwene to be super relatable and I enjoy her perspective the most. I just finished book 4 so I’m excited to see how her character progresses!
@Linayus
@Linayus 4 жыл бұрын
You are definitely right about these books: you will appreciate them MORE once you've read them all and then go through them again. There is a LOT to digest and particularly with Rand's trip through the ter'angreal in Rhuidean, it can be very confusing. Also - did you cry when Perrin found out about his family? I cry every single time I get to that point in the story.
@grafffuller3265
@grafffuller3265 4 жыл бұрын
Linayus - Same. Wow,what a way to drop that on the poor fella.
@KingBowserVlog
@KingBowserVlog 4 жыл бұрын
Thag shit wrenche at my heart
@aliciagroenewald3863
@aliciagroenewald3863 3 жыл бұрын
Apple blossom flowers😭😭
@crazyymonkey
@crazyymonkey 4 жыл бұрын
Matt lost memories when he was possessed by Shadar Logoth's Mordeth. One of his requests was to have gaps in the memories filled. They did that. like a gin, they granted his requests, just not in the way he wanted.
@randtherin5749
@randtherin5749 4 жыл бұрын
Btw Selene told Min that she's Lanfear at the end of Great Hunt.
@merphynapier42
@merphynapier42 4 жыл бұрын
Yes! I talked about it in that review. I just liked the scene where she layed it out in this book too
@rujoolpatil1227
@rujoolpatil1227 4 жыл бұрын
Carlos Matos Fanpage why would you watch a spoiler review in the first place
@randtherin5749
@randtherin5749 4 жыл бұрын
@@rujoolpatil1227 exactly lol.
@randtherin5749
@randtherin5749 4 жыл бұрын
@@carlosmatosfanpage2856 ok kido
@carlosmatosfanpage2856
@carlosmatosfanpage2856 4 жыл бұрын
Jon Kar haha I love the belittling ‘kido’ that you slipped in there. Really fucking hurt my feelings
@MrT115
@MrT115 4 жыл бұрын
There are so many subtle things that happens with Avienda that you don't get until you do a re-read.
@gabrielfillion2059
@gabrielfillion2059 4 жыл бұрын
Glad you are enjoying it! I am definitely in the minority here, but Faile does not really bother me. She does bothersome things and always thinks she is right, but i think she is handled really well by RJ so she felt authentic. Again, i know I'm in the minority for that. Keep going!
@grafffuller3265
@grafffuller3265 4 жыл бұрын
Gabriel Fillion - not a fan of her...till I was raising my first daughter...then I started to understand this 15 year old.
@jc-wx5oo
@jc-wx5oo 4 жыл бұрын
I enjoy her and Perrin’s relationship. I feel like they’re one of the best relationships so far. I’m on the Path of Daggers.
@KingBowserVlog
@KingBowserVlog 4 жыл бұрын
Faile was unbearable to me in this book. I was cheering every time it seemed Perrin drove her away but she came back every single time lol
@jc-wx5oo
@jc-wx5oo 4 жыл бұрын
@@KingBowserVlog hahaha. In fairness, Jordan's representations of women tend to be pretty one dimensional. I can't stand most of them most of the time. :P
@damnboy2.047
@damnboy2.047 2 жыл бұрын
jc5674 Really late but I’m wondering if they get better cause I’m soooo into this series, but sometimes they can be plain out annoying
@foodforfat6603
@foodforfat6603 4 жыл бұрын
I’ve read the entire series and the thing with paren is this. He wants nothing more than a simple life. His sense of duty won’t allow him to but he would like nothing more than to run off and make horse shoes for the rest of his life. Everything he does is very straight forward and that’s why I think some people call him boring. He was probably my second favorite behind Matt. Matt as you said is funny but he has this character arc where you see that he is a very good person by what he does but the things he says make him seem like a disloyal ass at times. The thing is it’s all talk. He grumbles but he always does what needs to be done. His character only gets better in the later books.
@boxbo7926
@boxbo7926 4 жыл бұрын
foodforfat remember Siuan’s uncle Huan!!
@1estel1ch.42
@1estel1ch.42 4 жыл бұрын
> "read" > "Paren" , "Matt" you mean listened to the audiobook, right?
@pretendtheresaname9213
@pretendtheresaname9213 4 жыл бұрын
*paren*
@kev4366
@kev4366 4 жыл бұрын
@@boxbo7926 He shouldn't ever be forgotten, he died a hero
@hindygreenwood8115
@hindygreenwood8115 3 жыл бұрын
Perrin was by far my favorite character arc of book 4❤️
@joshuamoore6818
@joshuamoore6818 Жыл бұрын
I was going to comment about the women in book 3 review but you mention it here so. Its a struggle of where they stand with each other. Elayne (trained all her life to rule and become the next queen), Nynaeve (wisdom of the Two Rivers, head of the women circle), Egwene apprentice to Nynaeve, daughter of the mayor. The cattiness is cause they are on equal footing now. Nynaeve having the hardest time in adjusting to this, being the oldest of them and used to have a lot of power.
@kght222
@kght222 4 жыл бұрын
12:00 it isn't the hanging, it is what he asked for in the twisted door ter'angreal. he asked for three things: to fill the holes in his memory, to be free of aes'sedai, and a way to get out of there. the hanging was the price he paid for the bargain.
@RICHIEV333
@RICHIEV333 3 жыл бұрын
I have a different take on this book, I agree with the Perin comments, however, to me this was also Egwene's book. In the first book, she learns the power, in the second book she is captured by the Seanchan and learns how to use the power as a weapon, Now in book 4 she is trained in the ways of being a wise one, this will also continue. To me, Egwene goes through the most thought out character arc, and her learning to be a wise one is very key.
@Jakester88
@Jakester88 4 жыл бұрын
It's great hearing how much you enjoyed the book, and having all that excitement about what happened. Looking forward to your review on the next books! I loved the series, so you're bringing all the memories back.
@birdiekeller8480
@birdiekeller8480 4 жыл бұрын
It’s so crazy that I found your channel right now, as I’m at about the same place you are in reading the books! I love hearing your thoughts on them, and I think your channel is great!
@Monkeydonkey10
@Monkeydonkey10 3 жыл бұрын
also, i loved perrin sine the beginning. also see the inspiration for roran. for some reason, i really enjoyed what rand experienced in rhuidean and the history of the aiel and tinkers
@ervisfilipovic1474
@ervisfilipovic1474 4 жыл бұрын
6:00 The thing with Nynaeve - We never really think about the sensations the characters are having in that moment, in their day to day, but Nynaeve is so clearly stressed/anxious angry. That feeling when you're stressed but have so much adrenaline you're annoyed and irritated all the time. That's her, and it's very relatable, especially now that I'm older. Which also made me feel for her on rereads.
@bioticsmage2262
@bioticsmage2262 4 жыл бұрын
As someone who is on his second read through of the books it is indeed awesome watching your reviews and you initial thoughts as you make your way through the series for the first time. I'm just sitting here all smiles and going "oh just you wait, or if you only knew" :D
@fatimaachnine1318
@fatimaachnine1318 4 жыл бұрын
The minute I see a new video of yours, I drop everything to watch it. Rock on!
@phlatbrim2732
@phlatbrim2732 4 жыл бұрын
I really like your reviews. its refreshing and new. something I haven't seen on other channels. Seeing the books the thru a new reader. So good! thanks!
@Turvok
@Turvok 4 жыл бұрын
@merphy WoT has been my favourite series for close to 30 years.. And Iove seeing someone's reaction to it when they first get into it and read each book for the first time. I've been waiting a couple weeks for your review of shadow rising. I seen your video a couple weeks ago on progress and it was one of the books you were currently reading. I'm happy that you seem to be loving it!
@salim3681
@salim3681 4 жыл бұрын
Yes, Egwene didn’t appear much in this book, she had one chapter of her own. She’ll get more attention in book 7 and onwards.
@jaycievictory8461
@jaycievictory8461 4 жыл бұрын
Love this review! Can feel your excitement 😍😍 BTW the books used to have a pronunciation guide at the back, which really helps 😆
@timothykenobi8386
@timothykenobi8386 4 жыл бұрын
YASSSSS! I’ve been waiting for this! (Pre-comment). I started my journey (again) with WOT because of you & I’ve been eagerly awaiting your opinions on TSR!
@timothykenobi8386
@timothykenobi8386 4 жыл бұрын
Post viewing: I feel that due to the huge character roster there is a character for everyone. Like many, I’m not really compelled by Perrin. But I’m very fond of Rand. What I have always found frustrating is that sometimes I think we spend too much time with a character that when we switch POVs it can be hard to keep going because you were so invested in the previous POV. It becomes more prevalent in a crown of swords for me (at least where I am so far..). It’s great because you get invested in all the plot threads but sometimes I find myself reading through a chapter just to get to the next POV.
@amaresuify
@amaresuify 4 жыл бұрын
Nyneave can be frustrating, but she's my all time favorite character so I feel the need to offer some reading tips for her She's in a really difficult place for almost everything. She left her village to protect these children she babysat for and now she's nowhere near them. It was her choice and it was the right choice, but it's still painful to leave her charges behind. (Also to accept that they're growing up and she has to build a relationship of equals with them.) She's just enough older to feel horribly responsible for them and it hurts her to leave them to fight their own battles. Lan is the source of the problems in that relationship. I love them, but he spends a lot of time telling Nyneave that he loves and can never be with her. Nyneave tells him she loves him and doesn't see the problems he sees. Also there's Lan's duties as a Warder. Really the drama is all Lan though. For her anger issues it's good to remember that she can't channel unless she's angry. That was a subconscious fact for years, buy now she knows it. A lot of the time she's purposely making herself angry so that if she has to channel she can. She's also rude and a penny pincher, buy she's not angry without reason. Anyways! Love the reviews. It's very interesting to see the things I take for granted being overlooked on a first read through.
@vicorintian
@vicorintian 4 жыл бұрын
Nyneave reminds me a lot of my wife. I keep thinking we will find a backstory where we find out she was bullied or at risk when she was a kid. It feels like she has lots of prejudices about men, other cultures and authority
@KingBowserVlog
@KingBowserVlog 4 жыл бұрын
Disagree. Nynaeve is a constant bitch, Lan is far away from being the main source of drama
@aderounmuadedeji183
@aderounmuadedeji183 2 жыл бұрын
Wrong. Nynaeve was bitchy from he get go
@arnevandenbroeck1233
@arnevandenbroeck1233 4 жыл бұрын
22:06 I feel that way as well. I am in my first read through as well and on book 7 right now (halfway I would say)
@Connor_Crain
@Connor_Crain 4 жыл бұрын
great job on name pronunciation!!! also mat gets better, he didnt become one of my favorites till book... 6...7...i think?
@MrT115
@MrT115 4 жыл бұрын
It's interesting how Rand is directly or indirectly a catalyst for a lot of upheaval and change. It follows the prophecies and they become much more clear afterwards.
@kissofarose100
@kissofarose100 2 жыл бұрын
I JUST FINISHED THIS VOLUME AND i AM WITH YOU, I LOVE PERRIN SO MUCH!
@Oniric2704
@Oniric2704 4 жыл бұрын
About what happened to Mat. Without spoiling anything, since you do not have all the info at this point in the story, here is what he said before he was found hanging by Rand. He said he wanted to have the holes of his memory filled, to be freed from the One Power and the Aes Sedhai and to be away from then and return to Rhuidean if they would not answer his questions. All of those statements were followed by one of the fox people saying “done”.
@smaug1234
@smaug1234 4 жыл бұрын
Prob my fav book in the series, glad you are enjoying them :), and yes there so much stuff going on that i didn't get my first go through. I want to see how your feelings towards the characters changes as the series goes on, mine sure did. cheers great review
@TheLoveMuscle4000
@TheLoveMuscle4000 4 жыл бұрын
Lan doesn't get tons of page time in any of the books really but his time is always maximized. Wait until the last book and you will get a scene I once saw described as " the Lan-y-ist Lan in all of Landom. It spectacular to read and of my top 20 moments in the series, I would say top 10 but there so many punch your fist in the air moments in this series it's hard to limit it to only 10, haha
@ferransilves907
@ferransilves907 4 жыл бұрын
I agree that this is Perrin's book and that he really shines in it. The reason people find him boring is because of his arc starting at this point all the way till book 11. The highlight if this book to me when I read it first was the stuff that happens at Rhuidean and when Siuan gets deposed and stilled (I was in shock!!!!!). Can't wait for you to read book 5 which is also really good!
@kathylukancic2334
@kathylukancic2334 4 жыл бұрын
I just finished The Shadows Rising and am about 30 pages into The Fires of Heaven... I'm feeling like this is where the series truly takes off. I felt elements of it in Dragon Reborn but I LOVED this book!! I absolutely love the growing of the Aes Sedai in trainging. Egwene will probably be in Fires of Heaven a lot more- I feel she was limited because of her training with the Wise Ones' and when she comes back she'll be further along. Robert probably couldn't include another arc because they was already so much in this book! I agree as well, I finally feel like I'm seeing Rand and starting to really like the guy. Before I always felt meh. And I gotta say, Nynaeve beating and capturing (temporarily) a Forsaken was pretty awesome. I like her despite her attitude, but agree she can be difficult. I was also shocked that despite Elayne's thing with Rand, I like seeing her growing into her powers and her journey. She's doing pretty good for a Princess who lived a sheltered and luxurious life... but her whole "thing" with Rand is annoying. He keeps thinking of Min and she loves him, so I gotta say I see them hooking up... or him and that Aeil girl (Egwene's friend, can't spell her name lol). WAY too many cooks in the kitchen. I absolutely loved the whole Perrin and Two Rivers bit. It was definitely close to being the main story, however Rand becoming the Aeil Chief of Chiefs was it for me. The whole seeing the history through his ancestors eyes was mind blowing. I just loved seeing Perrin grown into Lord Perrin GoldenEyes and see Two Rivers become a town to be reckoned with. I just don't trust either Aes Sedai. Verin is at the top of my list for Black Ajah- she told Rand in book 2 or 3 that Moiraine sent her to go with Rand, however Moiraine frowned and said she didn't. How could Verin lie? Only logical sense is she's of the Black, which suck because I really like her and that confirms it for me even more. I do like Alanna... I do not feel she is Black, but she's made comments about bending men against there will that's made me wonder what she'd do if she ever got alone with Rand. That seems unlikely as of right now, and Rand's channeling strength is only growing and now has Asmodeus, kinda, in a leash and teaching him. And F*CK Elaida (sp?) and that emotionless Keeper of hers. I am SO scared Moiraine isn't going to find out about the false Amyrlin before she sends all the tools of Power from Rhuidean to the White Tower where that traitorous witch would get her grubby hands on them... She needs to go!
@alexmartini3283
@alexmartini3283 2 жыл бұрын
I agree with you alot. I hadnt realized Verin had managed to lie, I always thought of her on the side of the light, now im questioning it. I really like how Rand was secretive and set the trap for the forsaken. Hes playing Lanfear and seems to be doing well so far.
@briangallagher3106
@briangallagher3106 4 жыл бұрын
Just finished this morning, great book, the middle was slow but not painful. The last 300 pages were amazing though. Perrin my man for the win!
@jonathankoan
@jonathankoan 4 жыл бұрын
This was my favorite of the Robert Jordan books. It is written so well and Perrin/Faile's love story is great. The last three(sanderson) books are my favorite 3 though.
@wishiwsthr
@wishiwsthr 2 жыл бұрын
I listen to three other reviews before I got to yours, thanks now I can go on to book 5
@apoorvajangale9667
@apoorvajangale9667 4 жыл бұрын
Mat will definitely win you over till like 6th book, I love him.
@jaycievictory8461
@jaycievictory8461 4 жыл бұрын
My fave! 😍
@BedtimeBookworm
@BedtimeBookworm 4 жыл бұрын
This was so great! I think you’re going about it the right way as far as not focusing too much in the details right now - there’s just too much to take in on a first read IMO. At this point in the series Perrin was still me favorite - it wasn’t until later in the series that May started to shine for me, although a lot of that stems from things that happened in this book so I get why people said that. Nynaeve will get better for you I think lol. Omg so many things I can’t wait to talk about with you that haven’t happened yet!! 😆😆
@grafffuller3265
@grafffuller3265 4 жыл бұрын
Totally agree with Jade. I am so excited for your thoughts on this series. Just enjoy it...the first time. Don’t stress over anything. It will all be revealed by the end and multiple readings.
@ericmerrell8622
@ericmerrell8622 4 жыл бұрын
Perrin has always been my favorite character and I love seeing reviews with him getting the attention he deserves!
@kght222
@kght222 4 жыл бұрын
i find it wonderful to hear someone's thoughts on their first read of the series. some of us grew up with the books, when i started there were only 3 of them out, by the time the fourth one had come out i had already re-read the first three at least once, maybe twice, can't remember, over 20 years ago. and i definitely re-read the series at least once for each book as it came out. not to mention in the early 2000s i used to play a kinda slow paced online game and have the audio books on repeat in the background for probably thousands of hours. i say that to explain that it surprises me the things that you don't catch, while i'm sure i probably did the same thing i had re-read so much as the series came out i just can't fathom it. but great reviews anyway, keep at it, if you do a single read through without re-reads in the middle it will be interesting to see what you take away from it. i bet you will have some events that stand out for you that those of us who have read the books many times wouldn't even have thought much about.
@RiseeRee
@RiseeRee 4 жыл бұрын
I absolutely adore Nynaeve. I get her. Basically it’s the curse of being incredibly capable from a young age. People doubt you, not because you’ve shown some type of failing in what you do, but because of your age. She literally HAD to be overly aggressive with the Edmonds Fielders and bulldoze over the Women’s Circle and the Council before any of them could stop to think about her being young enough to be their (grand)daughter. She’s such an interesting mixture of confidence and insecurity. Elayne is easy going with others because she never had to struggle for her position. It didn’t matter if Elayne was capable or not; she was obeyed from the time she was a small child simply for being born the Daughter Heir. Literally everyone but the Queen had to defer to her, even her older siblings. Nynaeve had to work hard, become the best at what she did, and fight for every scrap, so she’s always kind of in fight mode. In the end I think you’ll come to love her. She’s fiercely loyal and big hearted.
@ericd1022
@ericd1022 3 жыл бұрын
Nice analysis. Nynaeve is one of my favorite characters so far, i just finished book 4
@timraup4888
@timraup4888 4 жыл бұрын
I agree with Nyneave. She has a large section of one of the later books that is just such a struggle to get through because she's such an insufferable person. She gets the longest chapter in the book and it doesn't break from her perspective. I'm so glad I warmed up to her later on. I love this book, and I'm so excited to get to it again.
@andrewdemarco3512
@andrewdemarco3512 3 күн бұрын
Perrin is my favorite as well, as this book does so much for his character
@d84928
@d84928 4 жыл бұрын
Wow, never caught you this early before! :D Happy to see you as always! Never apologise for free forming, would love to hear you ramble about anything for as long as your video is! ^_^
@williamthomas5788
@williamthomas5788 2 жыл бұрын
It's funny that you say here that Rand was following Moiraine around. He hasn't been for quite some time. Even in The Great Hunt, he goes his own way and is mostly motivated by helping Mat, at root. In The Dragon Reborn, he runs off to fulfill the prophecy (or get killed trying), snubbing Moiraine's ideas about what to do and leaving her chasing after him. In The Shadow Rising, he doesn't give her an inch, and it's clear he doesn't listen to her and it's because he doesn't trust her. Thanks for sharing your thoughts, though.
@noshei21
@noshei21 4 жыл бұрын
Loved this review!
@gobbohuntergobbo6447
@gobbohuntergobbo6447 4 жыл бұрын
The thing with having a favourite character in the WoT is: you‘re not really supposed to have one throughout all the books. They change and situations get difficult and actions make it difficult to stick to a singular character. For instance: book one i loved Rand and lost him throughout the series to come back to him right at the end. Loved Nyneave throughout the middle/end and was a bigger fan of Perrin before I finally understood all the build up for Mat. The next book, you‘ll probably start seeing why Robert Jordan built this situation up so much. His character needs a massive amount of setup. Enjoy the next books :) love your videos! (Basically only watch you and Daniel for booktubers.)
@gobbohuntergobbo6447
@gobbohuntergobbo6447 4 жыл бұрын
And not to speak of sidecharacters. If i could get more of Loial, Logain and especially Thom, i would. But Thom being so mysterious makes for him to be an even better character (i guess he shares the role of Gandalf in this book with Moirane?)
@paulramen2535
@paulramen2535 4 жыл бұрын
Love that series. Am here because of it and you. This review was a little bit too unstructured for me though. Keep up the good work. Happy reading!
@salserio6727
@salserio6727 4 жыл бұрын
This is definitely one of my favorite books in the series. Perhaps my favorite of the first half (and that in no means deminishes the greatness of the other books.) Mat was probably my least favorite character in the first book, started rising up in my ranks during the third book, and this book propelled him to my top three favorites (taking first shortly after).
@majellamom
@majellamom 4 жыл бұрын
Totally with you on Perrin being the most interesting and best character so far - Matt has grown on me a little, but mostly I still find him annoying, and Rand is fine - but Perrin is why I keep reading. This was a great video to listen to - I read The Shadow Rising in July and took August off - about to get started with the Fires of Heaven, and this was a great recap/reminder of what happened so far!
@jarrodjeffrey759
@jarrodjeffrey759 4 жыл бұрын
The Shadow Rising is my favourite book of the series. Perrin with his own scouring of the Shire & Rand’s travelling back through his bloodline are some of the best story arcs of all the novels. What is your opinion of how much the three boys hate the enhanced abilities they find themselves with. What males in their late teens wouldn’t want special powers. Most men of that age think themselves invincible. I don’t really believe that all three would be so concerned about the possible dangers, teenage boys are reckless throughout history. There worries don’t ring true.
@RichFreeman
@RichFreeman 4 жыл бұрын
Yeah, I got really excited when Rand went through the pillars. Talk of flying machines and other signs of much more advanced technology and then the buildings being possible skyscrapers just made me realize what the previous age must have been like. That then makes me really disappointed that we won't get more WoT for all the other ages - would have been nice to go all the way around the wheel!
@jarrodjeffrey759
@jarrodjeffrey759 4 жыл бұрын
Rich Freeman go check out Wheel of Time: Before the Breaking , on CivilisationEx channel. It runs some fascinating ideas that will really change your view of The Age of Legends
@RichFreeman
@RichFreeman 4 жыл бұрын
@@jarrodjeffrey759 already in my watch list but it seemed likely to contain soilers so I don't plan to watch it until I'm finished the series.
@jarrodjeffrey759
@jarrodjeffrey759 4 жыл бұрын
Rich Freeman not exactly spoilers but you are right. Probably best to wait til you finish all the novels. I started reading the books in the 90’s & was into book 4 before I realised how large the planned story was & how long before it would be complete. When I heard last year that it was being adapted I decided to finally tackle the story again. However watching KZfaq videos I encountered so many spoilers you do have to be careful.
@RichFreeman
@RichFreeman 4 жыл бұрын
@@jarrodjeffrey759 I've found the Reddit group to be really good for this. They must get a lot of first-time readers so they have a way of tagging posts by book and then those posts must be spoiler-free after that book. This lets new readers get into discussions/speculation/etc or just ask questions partway through the series without having anything ruined. It is a bit like LOTR in the sense that it seems like there are 100 more stories that could be written in this world. I guess something I always liked about LOTR was that the world didn't seem like a Potemkin Village. For every detail that was revealed it seemed like there were hints that there were 12 more that were just beyond sight. JRRT didn't feel obligated to have an explanation for everything or fit everything into his plot (perhaps almost to the point of absurdity). In many ways I feel like WoT gets this even better, because it all works fairly consistently but you get the same depth, without quite as many crazy tangents. Without getting into any spoilers by this point in the story we have things like the thief-takers who have some kind of power that isn't really explained, but which could be a whole set of lore on its own. There is the wolf power. Of course there is the One Power but that does get a lot more exploration (though I'd say the number of weaves that actually have been employed is remarkably limited). There are the Bubbles of Evil, and so much about the Pattern itself. Maybe some of this will get explained in the last two books (I'm almost done 12), but I suspect that there will remain a ton of lore that could be built on. And all of this is with the third age, when the wheel clearly seems to go round and round. What happened in the last third age? What will happen in the next? What happened at the start of the second age? We only have bits of the end of the second age. It is a shame that those books will probably never be written.
@Sdramsay1977
@Sdramsay1977 4 жыл бұрын
Team Perrin! I’m with you. It’s so hard not to respond to this with megaspoilers, but the best thing to me about these books is that every character grows so much through the books, and I genuinely love all of them. Excited to see the rest of the reviews!
@alienhexican8017
@alienhexican8017 4 жыл бұрын
Judging by this review and your thoughts on the series thus far, this will be your G.O.A.T series!
@kingslayer3365
@kingslayer3365 4 жыл бұрын
Awesome review! Could you do a review you do one for The Stormlight Archive? I know you've already talked about it previous videos, but I think people will appreciate something a little more spoilery, to hear your thoughts.
@totallysick88able
@totallysick88able 3 жыл бұрын
I had to reread so many parts of this book as I read through it that I must have read the thing twice. Felt like reading a 2000 page book with all the back tracking I had to do. Still I’m loving the WOT so far! Starting Fires of Heaven tomorrow 🤗
@cynthiaholmes5124
@cynthiaholmes5124 2 жыл бұрын
I really enjoyed this book just finished it yesterday going to be awhile before I can continue with the series 😊🤗🙂😁
@melissaroberts2299
@melissaroberts2299 4 жыл бұрын
Perrin's character arc is amazing in later books. One of my favorite series!
@mikepicioli1100
@mikepicioli1100 4 жыл бұрын
20:08 100%! I'm on book 3 (5th reread) & am still picking up on new things
@jandnorton
@jandnorton 4 жыл бұрын
So the foxes that Mat visits in Rhuidian grant wishes where the snakes in the Stone answer questions. Mat asks the foxes in the red door to make him immune to Aes Sedai manipulation, fill the gaps in his memory, and get him out of that place.
@KevinRothert
@KevinRothert 2 жыл бұрын
I loved the mat hanging part. I'm excited to see how the snake people's blessings play out. I agree with you about Rand. I've been pretty bored with Rand until this one he was amazing!
@sameerbhaya8208
@sameerbhaya8208 Жыл бұрын
I started with the Wheel of time series for the simple reason that I am a big fan of the series and have read and heard it multiple times. I love your reviews about it, plus I totally agree that you'll have to re-read the whole series to get the best taste. So, coming to the subject- I wanted to ask if you could do a review of the tv series "Wheel of time" which is produced by Amazon prime.
@fredsmith2067
@fredsmith2067 4 жыл бұрын
There's a really short little scene at the beginning between Moiraine and Thom in the Stone that you may want to revisit down the road.
@agathoklesmartinios8414
@agathoklesmartinios8414 4 жыл бұрын
*Spoilers* Matt's hanging reflects mythological themes of sacrificing something to obtain something. Specifically, it mimics the sacrifice of the God Óðinn Who hung Himself from the World-Tree Yggdrasill to obtain the knowledge of the Runes. Just like Matt is hanged from the Tree of Life and subsequently obtains the knowledge of great strategists of ages past. Also, he forgot to negotiate a price to be paid by him, so the Eelfinn, the Fox People you reach through the gate in Rhuidean, set their own price. His life. AND he didn't seem to realise that these guys might not do the same thing as the Aelfinn he met in the gate back in Tear.
@bhatfield1417
@bhatfield1417 4 жыл бұрын
Loved your review, you echo how I and probably many others feel. I had the same reaction of I'm not sure I get it, but I'm not sure I care either because it's cool The characters are infuriating sometimes but by the end of the series, that turned out to be kind of just a charm of the series for me while also being a legitimate criticism I have. It does persist and ruins it for some people and I don't think it needs a defense it just is what it is and you either find it funny, realistic or annoying. The characters will grow and dwain on you as you read, Loyal, Nyanneve and of course Matt really ended up being my favorite by the end.
@DavidHall-gr3ml
@DavidHall-gr3ml 4 жыл бұрын
Watching this really made me envy the chance to read it for the first time. As much as you can appreciate it at a deeper level upon re-reads, you only get the joys of a first read once. almost makes me wish for a very specific amnesia... P.S. Aviendha is awesome, I named my daughter after her.
@lostdrewid
@lostdrewid 4 жыл бұрын
I absolutely adore that every time you said something happened in book X, it actually happened in book X+1 or X-1. This pleases me because the whole Wheel of Time is considered a single novel, and the fact that it blurs into one single story is a good thing. You want more Lan, Aviendha, Min and Loial? Your wish will be granted. All of them have depths you haven't begun to plumb. I won't spoil when or to what degree, but you definitely have more joy to get out of them. I also love that you nailed the actual name of the weave that Moghedian used on Elayne and Nynaeve. It is, indeed, Compulsion. {I don't consider knowing this name a spoiler, especially since you guessed it ^_^} And yes, it's one of, if not *the* most terrifying use of the Power. {Balefire is the only competitor for terror-inspiring, in my book.}
@MatthewLoom
@MatthewLoom 2 жыл бұрын
Perrin Goldeneyes is the hero of the story in my opinion.
@paulinetaylor4966
@paulinetaylor4966 2 жыл бұрын
Are they thick books? Are they tall, normal or in between size books? I’m hopping toget them for Christmas.
@drklnk23
@drklnk23 4 жыл бұрын
book 4 is totally perrin's book too, wait for book 5....that's when i fell in love with mat love your channel!!!
@franciswashbrook
@franciswashbrook 4 жыл бұрын
Mat's trip through Rhuidean's redstone doorway was for three things to be given, whereas the redstone doorway in Tear was for three pieces of knowledge to be given. In Rhuidean's doorway he asks to be freed from Aes Sedai so they give him a medallion to do that, then he asks for the holes that are in his memories from the dagger sickness to be filled so they fill those holes with memories from other people, then lastly he asks for a way out so they throw him out. However the rules for this doorway required a payment to be agreed on but since Mat didn't know that, they hanged him from the Avendesora tree with the spear weapon tied to the rope (there's a reason for that which you find out MUCH later in the series)
@marcusperry5395
@marcusperry5395 4 жыл бұрын
Zero spoilers, but pay close attention when reading the first 200 pages of the next book. There are a lot of subtle things most people miss. Also, love the hair straight.
@moeman813
@moeman813 3 жыл бұрын
Perrin is my fav too, I haven’t gotten to book 5 yet but so far he’s number 1
@aneonfoxtribute
@aneonfoxtribute 3 жыл бұрын
"The Amyrlin is gentled" Your Gentlemen Bastards is showing.
@theyoungcarpenter3249
@theyoungcarpenter3249 3 жыл бұрын
I finished this one like 2 days ago and damn perrin is most definitely my favorite character
@Megalith_
@Megalith_ 4 жыл бұрын
It's not so much that the hanging "gave him" the memories. He had them already. At the very beginning of book 1 he even "remembers" a long lost Manatheren battle cry as Moraine was telling the story of them to thr Two Rivers folk. So he had it all along, he just didn't gave complete access to it all the time. So the hanging was just his payment for the complete unlocking of that knowledge.
@josephmiller9919
@josephmiller9919 4 жыл бұрын
Yep. That is my favorite of all of the books. Hang in there there is a long way to go. Just a tip, I found that if I took a break in between WoT books it was easier to not get burnt out on the series, especially in the next 6. Just a suggestion.
@RichFreeman
@RichFreeman 4 жыл бұрын
Yeah, I've taken short breaks between those books and it helps. I'm on 12 now and I doubt I'll be able to pause even a day...
@PreppinShootinLivin
@PreppinShootinLivin 4 жыл бұрын
I do this for most series...I’ll read some other book before getting back into the next book of any series I’m reading. I look forward to the next book so much more if I’ve given myself a break from the series for a short bit.
@josephmiller9919
@josephmiller9919 4 жыл бұрын
@@RichFreeman I finally made it to A Memory of Light. It is great so far.
@RichFreeman
@RichFreeman 4 жыл бұрын
@@josephmiller9919 "finally" is a good word for it. The series is great, but the amount of detail is incredible. I am constantly trying to remember who the various characters are. When they adapt this to TV I can only imagine how much they'll simplify that considering they had to do that for GoT and that isn't nearly as bad.
@MrBdl32
@MrBdl32 4 жыл бұрын
Did I miss it or you didn't talk about the wayback experience Rand had all the way back to the opening to the bore? I mean, that part on this book was the one that definitely won me over this series and made me love it so much. if you pay atention to that, you could even get the name of the Aes Sedai who opened the bore to the dark one in the first place, along with so much more. But I mean, the entire episode is awesome
@26Winti
@26Winti 3 жыл бұрын
Right now I do my first read through of the WoT. Just finished this book. I have to say Perrin is definitly my favourite right now. Mat has some potential but we just didn't have had enough of Mat PoV chapters. I also liked Mins Chapters But even more then Mat there was just not enough of her in this book.
@WJLMAROON
@WJLMAROON 4 жыл бұрын
Only read the 1st book and just wanted say Perrin is far & away my favourite.
@amirkhan-tl5lp
@amirkhan-tl5lp 4 жыл бұрын
I LOVE those editions but to buy them in the UK they’re to expensive for my student budget to alllow. Loved this Merphy!
@jaycievictory8461
@jaycievictory8461 4 жыл бұрын
Oh what a shame! You can often pick them up in charity shops, if that helps
@androlgenhald476
@androlgenhald476 4 жыл бұрын
I'm team Perrin too! He is the best! Matt is on a slow burn and is really great by the last 2-3 books
@michaelxz1305
@michaelxz1305 4 жыл бұрын
perrin's the one that took the longest to get interesting... mat was dead weight for a couple of books near the start sure but then he got interesting... perrin was arguably maybe interesting with the white cloaks but it was all downhill for him from there until he became neo and redeemed himself
@RecklessFables
@RecklessFables 2 жыл бұрын
I like that I'm being reminded how I didn't really like any of the main ensemble aside from Perrin and young me was just enthralled by the world building.
@Rajathon
@Rajathon 4 жыл бұрын
I hated Nynevee until I read the series a second time. See is so awful to everyone and I dont get it. She is not an awful person but acts like one. Matt asked to have the holes in his memory filled and they gave him other generals memories. His hanging was the payment for that.
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