The Shotgun Booby Trap (The Case Of)

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Can you booby trap your own house? When can you use deadly force against an intruder?
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Based on the real case of Katko v. Briney, 183 N.W.2d 657 (Iowa 1971). #TrueCrime #LegalEagle
Written by Devin Stone, Donnalyn Vojta, & Tricia Aurand
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Summary from Wikipedia:
Bertha Briney inherited an old farmhouse in Mahaska County, Iowa, which the Brineys had left vacant for the last ten years prior to the incident. They had the house boarded up and placed "No Trespassing" signs around the property. The house was in poor condition and was subject to frequent burglaries and break-ins. To defend the house against intruders, Edward Briney mounted a 20-gauge spring-loaded shotgun in the farmhouse and rigged it to fire when the north bedroom door was opened. The gun was aimed downward so as to shoot an intruder's legs, rather than cause a mortal injury. Briney also covered the bedroom window with steel. A month later, on July 16, 1967, Katko entered the farmhouse with the intent of stealing some old bottles and dated fruit jars that Katko considered antiques. He was aware of their presence because he and a friend had broken into the house two weeks earlier. When Katko entered the bedroom, he tripped the trigger mechanism and the shotgun fired into his legs at point blank range. The gunshot wounds were sufficiently severe to require hospitalization, and Katko sued the Brineys after his release from the hospital.
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@LegalEagle 4 жыл бұрын

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@AndrewNiccol 4 жыл бұрын

Objection: Please review movie Fracture, it is the best legal movie ever made, and very clever use of Double Jeopardy.

@hyperwing5374 4 жыл бұрын

Can you do a video of big companies like dc & marvel stealing fan art.

@mcsnoopster 4 жыл бұрын

Ok I signed up, do they not have apps for mobile devices?

@Arkantos117 4 жыл бұрын

I know it's British, but you might be interested in the Tony Martin case. He was an old man who shot a burglar dead in 1999 and the case has been quite controversial in the UK since it happened.

@bigplanslittledrive4791 4 жыл бұрын

Do a video on creators who talk really slow and adds internal monologues of characters that they just assume.

@JohnathanJWells 4 жыл бұрын

"Four years after the case was decided, Edward Briney was asked if he would change anything about the situation. Briney replied, "There's one thing I'd do different, though: I'd have aimed that gun a few feet higher."" -Wikipedia Damn

@spencegame 4 жыл бұрын

He wouldn't have been out $30k and the house would probably never get robbed again.

@MegaBanne 4 жыл бұрын

Sounds like a guy who wants to end up in jail for life.

@zarahandrahilde9554 4 жыл бұрын

Makes sense. Wouldn't have been sued. Would be in jail, but. I think the average person will take a bit of jail with pride over a long ass lawsuit.

@MegaBanne 4 жыл бұрын

@@zarahandrahilde9554 Until they find out what a hell isolation is. Few things are as degrading as that.

@JohnDoe-dg1dl 4 жыл бұрын

@@spencegame Yeah he'd probably be in jail instead...

@lography6917 4 жыл бұрын

"When is lethal force justified? This is the case of the shotgun booby-trap. The trial of 8-year-old Kevin McCallister"

@eiad1251 4 жыл бұрын

Your mama

@LegalEagle 4 жыл бұрын

IT'S COMING

@nicklikesfitness2815 4 жыл бұрын

@@LegalEagle winter? A Christmas Legal Eagle episode? Both?

@strawberryrhubarbs 4 жыл бұрын

Except Kevin was present in the house at the time, Harry & Marv knew this, they brought deadly weapons (crowbars), and they repeatedly pronounced “We’re gonna get ya!”

@mrnemo204 4 жыл бұрын

@@LegalEagle Christmas episode?

@mosaicowlstudios Жыл бұрын

There was a rumor in my highschool regarding one of our teachers. That his deceased wife, who died by suicide, had set up a spring gun before ending her life, intended on killing her husband (our teacher). This was "evidenced" by his extreme fear of ANYONE but himself opening his classroom door, and him opening it very carefully and cautiously each time. We never knew if the rumor was true. More than likely, he suffered from a compulsive disorder or was a victim of PTSD for military combat service. It was a cruel rumor. We all spread it and giggled. I am ashamed now, as an adult.

@mollusckscramp4124 Жыл бұрын

Damn, that's brutal

@sergeantpeppers8858 Жыл бұрын

If we, as adults, aren't ashamed of some of the stuff we did when growing up, then we have led a very boring life. I cringe every time I think of something I did years ago. Sometimes I make weird noises and my wife asks what's wrong. I just say "Nothing," and change the subject. We can't change the past, but, apparently, we can cringe about it.

@Pickledsundae Жыл бұрын

Omg this is a mind F!

@TheGallantDrake 10 ай бұрын

@@sergeantpeppers8858 that's such a strong mood, but I gotta agree. It's really one of the only ways to tell whether or not you've grown and changed.

@MrMeh23 9 ай бұрын

@@sergeantpeppers8858 Reminds me of the time I went to a club with shades, skinny jeans, and a leather biker jacket, thinking I was the coolest dude there. The pictures I have of that night serve to remind that there is such a thing as trying too hard to look cool

@GrnChli Жыл бұрын

A business owner here in Colorado set up a shotgun booby trap after being repeatedly burglarized. His trap worked it killed one of the 3 teenaged burglars. He ended up paying a $2,500 fine and $7,000 in restitution to the teens family. He was placed on probation for 6 years. The state wasn’t so concerned about the criminals. It was concerned what if a fireman or policeman opened the door in an emergency.

@jarskil8862 Жыл бұрын

There is also the case where a man put his house full of gun traps. But he perished before none was found Later new people moved in the house and found a map of all six armed guns hidden Except the map also talked about 7th gun that was never found. So one day we might read from news how it went off after all these years. This is one reason why gun traps and traps in general are not ok. The new people legally got the house when the old man died.

@koreyhayden1368 Жыл бұрын

That's bs, he should've received a reward

@Michael-bb1cw Жыл бұрын

That last part is where the biggest problem with traps lies: they cannot distinguish what (if any) level of force is justified in a given situation. A trap will respond the same way even if the person entering is a police officer executing a search warrant or a paramedic responding to a medical emergency. In a situation where there is no justification for ANY use of force (much less deadly force), a deadly trap will still respond with deadly force.

@jonsworld5307 Жыл бұрын

seam if he just had note saying booby trapped door dont open he probley got off free lol

@koreyhayden1368 Жыл бұрын

@@redneckshaman3099 random, leftist trigger comment, i love it!!!

@jaypegg2326 4 жыл бұрын

It was demonetized for the word booby, ironically

@DaidriveCJ 4 жыл бұрын

Yay for modern day KZfaq! More restrictive than ever before

@corymhulsey1 4 жыл бұрын

Nope. Not ironic.

@LegalEagle 4 жыл бұрын

Ugh, all the more reason to support us creators through Nebula...

@meatsafemurderer7743 4 жыл бұрын

Giggity giggity goo!

@eing7025 4 жыл бұрын

How can you tell which word demonotized it?

@DrFunkman 3 жыл бұрын

“Your honor, I did not kill him. He merely failed his dexterity saving throw.”

@Scottf573 3 жыл бұрын

He missed the QTE

@ryanday0 3 жыл бұрын

Shotgun rolled higher initiative, it made sense

@hariodinio 3 жыл бұрын

*mumbles* "just wish he failed his con save aswell"

@lincdc12 3 жыл бұрын

Severely underrated comment

@---tw6qk 3 жыл бұрын

Lmao god I want to play dnd again. My friends never come over anymore..

@jimbrenneman2040 Жыл бұрын

The problem with an actual lethal booby trap is that It lacks the judgment of a real person with a shotgun. It doesn't know the difference between a burglar, a teen hooligan, or a firefighter.

@ScottobozoGD Жыл бұрын

So how often do these traps actually hit firefighters? It seems obvious to me that for someone to get to the point of making a trap like this, they have to be repeatedly and frequently burglarized, to the point that setting up a trap is virtually guaranteed to hit a burglar.

@jordil6152 11 ай бұрын

The virtue of the shotgun boobytrap is that it worked: it shot a burglar. The Petitioner had to posit an alternate reality where someone innocent was harmed instead to win the case against the Defendants. It just isn't a very good argument.

@fabiovarra3698 11 ай бұрын

@@jordil6152You still can't kill or mayem someone to protetc an empty property.

@jordil6152 11 ай бұрын

@fabiovarra3698 Whether or not that is the case, the argument "what if it had been Hansel and Gretel instead of that burglar" is a bad argument, because it disregards the facts of the case for pointless speculation. The "but for" should not reside in the existence of the trap itself but in the intentions and actions of the trespasser.

@fabiovarra3698 11 ай бұрын

@@jordil6152 I don't think it's true, because is an argument that show how if put a trap and leave home you have no way to know who against it springs off. You can use deadly force only if you know your life or someone else life is in danger.

@mrmo4569 2 жыл бұрын

The real question is why she kept leaving precious heirlooms in an abandoned farm house that had been repeatedly looted over time.

@Tiyath 2 жыл бұрын

True. Why insist on keeping valuables in a home that's remote, easily broken into, unsupervised and protected by a couple of signs? And then to go: "Hey, everybody has ransacked this place over the last ten years, let's install an aligator mote, a rolling boulder and explosive ordinances to 'deter' burglars. Ridiculous

@AllfatherBlack 2 жыл бұрын

Good chance he wanted to get away with blowing someone's legs off. Probably became a case of deliberate entrapment after a while. Sure at first he put it up out of self-defense essentially, but then he started to fantasize and eventually started putting more rare stuff in the barn and then talking about it while faux-drunk down at the local dive bar. Then when some dumb bastard falls for it, he gets a nice little giggle out of what he thinks is legal torture.

@Tiyath 2 жыл бұрын

@@AllfatherBlack I know, right? The most fascinating thing is him expecting to get away with crippling a guy to save some earrings, dafuq? It sounds like the aftermath of a SAW movie

@bossabassa364 2 жыл бұрын

Victim blaming

@dy9955 2 жыл бұрын

Because it's her damn property. The real question is why the sheriff didn't do his damn job. He us 100% responsible for what happened.

@jimmyfirecracker5429 3 жыл бұрын

If he ever got tired of being a lawyer he would make a excellent audiobook narrator.

@hsdgfasdg5646 3 жыл бұрын

He should do it part time 😊

@bolognivm 3 жыл бұрын

He should narrate his own audio book if he ever published a book of his own

@hoagielamp6543 3 жыл бұрын

Yeah, way more money to be had in that cottage industry.

@Jartran72 3 жыл бұрын

@@hoagielamp6543 When a big firm lawyer with a side hustle retired he has enough money, trust me.

@livia_bolivi 3 жыл бұрын

Yes

@Kinglink 4 жыл бұрын

"So like a true american, Katko filed suit." That is such a lawyer smile on that sentence.

@doomedbringer 4 жыл бұрын

Kinglink Reviews doesn’t matter who does what, lawyers still get paid over such matters lol

@Aragon1500 4 жыл бұрын

It does matter if they take a frivolous suit they can be sanctioned or disbarred he actually talks about it a lot on this channel

@justinz9225 4 жыл бұрын

But Americans aren't significantly more litigious than other advanced nations, and he should know that. It's a myth.

@Aragon1500 4 жыл бұрын

He knows that he mentioned it in many other videos he's making a joke

@TheDIRTBIKER10 4 жыл бұрын

Having a sign that says "Trespassers will be shot" fixes that, I have one that says that and also says "Survivors will be shot again"

@DaGlitchWizzard 11 ай бұрын

Fun fact: the husband who set the trap was asked several years later if hed do anything different in regards to this case His response was "Id aim the gun a few inches higher"

@MyNameMeansPalm 9 ай бұрын

no claims, no suit lmao

@SUpersaiyajinjerkbag 8 ай бұрын

In which case he was a twit; because then he'd have to jail for manslaughter and still might get sued (by say an accomplice or acquaintance of the thief)

@raynmanshorts9275 8 ай бұрын

@@SUpersaiyajinjerkbag Except there was no legal precedent until he got sued by a thief who decided to use his bad decisions to steal from him through the legal system. And other cases have not resulted in prison sentences.

@nickpang4630 7 ай бұрын

what the hell world do we live in that people violating the law and harming others have any right to even file a suit against their victim!

@Brooksie997 6 ай бұрын

@@MyNameMeansPalm i was about to comment that too. They cant sue if theyre dead.

@GilraenTook Жыл бұрын

This reminds me of my extremely short lived legal career. In 8th grade, we did a mock trial. I was the defence attorney, and my client was a (old west era) store owner. He was sick of the wagon drivers who would bring liquor to his store skimming some off the top as extra payment and, knowing that his normal driver was illiterate, he pulled in a barrel of rubbing alcohol with the rest of it. The driver drank some out of all the barrels and died of alcohol poisoning. It was our statement that the guy was told that he needed to not drink anything, and that since he willingly broke the contract and drank something that killed him, it wasn't my client's fault. The jury found that my client should have known the guy would drink it anyway, known that since he couldn't read he was being put into a fatal trap, and found him guilty of first degree murder. His punishment was that couldn't use the computer in the classroom for the rest of the week.

@lerm4676 Жыл бұрын

"Today at school I learned that its OK to steal if you can't read"

@starboundsingularity 11 ай бұрын

oh god they didn't punish some poor kid for real over a fake crime, did they?

@kristenisbored766 10 ай бұрын

The defendant actually got punished for the made up crime?😂 if your side had won could he have countered for attorneys fees and gotten lunch money?

@BrainletReviews 10 ай бұрын

Either this is fake or your teacher was a serious piece of work lol

@GilraenTook 10 ай бұрын

@@BrainletReviews I have no proof, but the two didn't get along all that well. I adored the teacher, but I was a huge teacher's pet at the time (no kind voices except the ones paid tobe XD) unless the teacher scared me.

@JamesThatcher 4 жыл бұрын

Also - just so everyone can put this into to relevant terms - $30,000 in 1971 is equivalent to about $186,000 in 2018

@cybersketcher1130 4 жыл бұрын

Yikes

@dr.floridamanphd 4 жыл бұрын

And in 2019 it would be $190,626.67.

@HadToChangeMyName_YoutubeSucks 4 жыл бұрын

@@supaleetkillah -- An outrageous sum considering this criminal caused his own injuries by entering a premises he had no right to be in with the specific intent to commit crimes. The law doesn't allow him to write a book and profit from his criminal actions, but for some crazy reason it allows him to profit massively from the victims of his criminal actions.

@EvanFulks 4 жыл бұрын

And in the glorious world that is today's healthcare system, the hospital stay would have cost between $60,000 and $80,000, plus at least $35,000 for leg surgery (this is an estimate for a broken leg), plus $3,500 for an MRI (at least one), plus $3,000 for an ER visit, plus $10,000 to set, x-ray, and cast the leg. So, around $130,000. Assuming only one surgery without any complications, not counting physical therapy.

@justinhair2132 4 жыл бұрын

@@supaleetkillah I'm going to leave this here: kzfaq.info/get/bejne/gbSHm5l83JnJmoU.html

@LOLFOREVER77 4 жыл бұрын

‘I’d have aimed that gun a few feet higher’ - Briney, 4 years after the case when asked what he would change about the situation.

@captainmanacles 4 жыл бұрын

Less likely they'd get sued, but then a chance they might go in for involuntary manslaughter if not murder?

@rocketrelm1125 4 жыл бұрын

@@captainmanacles To be fair given how old they are, those might be equivalent.

@seandewell9319 4 жыл бұрын

@@captainmanacles Probably 1st-degree murder? Due to it being set up with the intention to take another's life. I'm no lawyer though.

@marcuslit4576 4 жыл бұрын

@@captainmanacles I'm guessing that if you aim a gun at someone's chest and fire it, it probably counts as intent and therefore murder. Also since they deliberately concealed the trap I don't see how anyone could use "deterrent" as a defence. (And I'm guessing the widow or family could sue?)

@sirdeadlock 4 жыл бұрын

Ehhhh. Say they get charged for murder. Maybe 5 years in jail. But that's it. $30,000 in the 50's was half a mortgage. Time wise, might be worth it.

@pamelastoesz733 2 жыл бұрын

You should do "legal AITA." I just came across an AITA about not paying the neighbour's cat's vet bills when the cat trespassed and was attacked by a dog. Another AITA question had to do with selling off a family heirloom engagement ring after he cheated on her. It would be awesome to hear your take on some of these AITA questions.

@DS3Enjoyer Жыл бұрын

People in that sub are unhinged

@thevulgarone4 Жыл бұрын

There was a death involving a firefighter who responded to a fire at a gas station whereas the owner had repeated breaki-ins previously. I'm not sure if he was sued by the firefighters family but he did spend a significant amount of time in prison. This is the reason these laws exist.

@AlejandroGonzalez-ej4lp 4 ай бұрын

Isn't it against common sense, even for a firefighter, to enter a burning gas station when no one is inside?

@Swordsman1425 4 ай бұрын

@@AlejandroGonzalez-ej4lp It could have been extinguished, and firefighters were going inside to make sure it was completely out.

@AlejandroGonzalez-ej4lp 4 ай бұрын

@@Swordsman1425 Good point, but I would prefer that the firefighters not come in without first asking permission or talking to the owners.

@erraticonteuse 4 ай бұрын

@@AlejandroGonzalez-ej4lp People pass out from smoke inhalation and often die from it. Waiting for permission to enter could be the death of someone inside.

@dew7555 4 жыл бұрын

"your honor, last time I was robbing these people, they DIDN'T have a shotgun in their bedroom"

@NINYA4Hire 4 жыл бұрын

Your honor, are you saying we should of just aimed for the head?

@crazeeaz 4 жыл бұрын

@@NINYA4Hire sounds like

@gandalftheblack8836 4 жыл бұрын

Dame Slayer should have*

@absolstoryoffiction6615 4 жыл бұрын

"Save the Devils, damn the innocent."

@absolstoryoffiction6615 4 жыл бұрын

@@NINYA4Hire "Just hire more hit-men."

@easternhistorian4763 4 жыл бұрын

They should have posted a sign that said “hippity hoppity get off my property”

@imjessietr29 4 жыл бұрын

I'd put up a bunch of red balloons and have creepy noises play.

@mrbluelw88 4 жыл бұрын

"zippity zuppity you're now in our custody" lol

@Chaod789 4 жыл бұрын

That's the sign they put up facing the other way down the driveway towards the house for when they leave.

@rustinusti 4 жыл бұрын

That’s what was printed on the backside of the Brineys’ lawn sign 😼

@keeperofnecronomicon 4 жыл бұрын

They should have put all the valuables in storage locker.

@strakhovandrri 10 ай бұрын

Biochemical and cluster weapons and a shotgun booby trap have one thing in common: they are not selective, that's why first two are frowned upon by mostly everyone. And when militaries lay mines, they should mark minefields, so that, although not selective by themselves, mines still don't pose a threat to those who are not willing to step on them.

@silverflight01 2 жыл бұрын

To sum it up: You're in your right to defend your house. However, you cannot use dangerous traps unless the trespasser is a serious threat to people's lives.

@JK-gm6kk 2 жыл бұрын

The signage is a good idea, warning people that there are potentially life threatening traps, and that by entering, they're waiving their right to file such a suit.

@efulmer8675 2 жыл бұрын

@@JK-gm6kk Depends if such a waiver is allowed, but that would definitely discourage nearly all thieves from entering that house.

@Vanilla.coke1234 2 жыл бұрын

@@efulmer8675 Whether the waiver has any legal backing or not really doesn't matter because trespassers will probably take it as though it is and be further dissuaded to trespass

@michaelpapageorgious5053 2 жыл бұрын

@@Vanilla.coke1234 So its essentially a bluff

@TomFranklinX 2 жыл бұрын

I'm currently moving my stuff to my upstairs apartment. I look out the window, and find a thief stealing my stuff. I have a gun, am I allowed to shoot the thief to protect my property? No humans are in danger.

@xerozoo 3 жыл бұрын

little do they know, this quaint little home in the heartland sits just on the edge- of the twilight zone.

@ContactBurrito 3 жыл бұрын

Comments you can hear

@silverflight01 2 жыл бұрын

Beautiful.

@ContactBurrito 2 жыл бұрын

NaNaNaNaNaNaNa

@budwhite9591 2 жыл бұрын

Nevada side of the California boarder?

@BubbaBearGames 2 жыл бұрын

Do-do-do-do, do do do do, do do do do....

@pablitopnl 4 жыл бұрын

The biggest crime here is YT trying to demonetize this kind of content

@jacobnunya808 4 жыл бұрын

KZfaq needs to find someone with balls and put them in charge.

@sbsnate2312 4 жыл бұрын

I'm glad creators are moving away from a dictatorship.

@NZRic001 4 жыл бұрын

DunkZ Z - you comment nails the issue!!!

@Jar0fMay0 4 жыл бұрын

Just saying "gun" in your video will demonetize you.

@Matrim42 4 жыл бұрын

Jar of Mayo Pretty sure it was “booby” in this case

@birch5757 2 жыл бұрын

I already knew how this would turn out - one my professors had this decision as part of an assignment. It's been several years, but this case is certainly pretty memorable.

@smitias_8474 2 жыл бұрын

In my country there was a case when homeowner kept some chemicals in a vodka bottle. Burglar decided to drink it and died. Homeowner got sentenced with a manslaughter. Seems completely unfair. There wasn't even attempt to do any harm and burglar had been struck with his own stupidity.

@weberman173 Жыл бұрын

tbf it depends on the laws in your country in regards of storing of dangerous chemicals(which, yes there are laws about that) whatever they have to be clearly marked as such etc

@themug406 Жыл бұрын

@@weberman173 It does depend on the laws where you live but the more interesting conversation is what should the laws be, its not absolute

@weberman173 Жыл бұрын

@@themug406 and i consider storing dangerous chemicals in unmarked containers to be something that should(and in some places is) be illegal. Similiar scenario to the boobytrap just without the intent of Hurting anyone behind it(which is why it probably was manslaugher and not murder) depending on what chemical it is it may be important for example fire fighters to quickly identify what chemical where stored in a house, which you cant if they are unmarked etc.

@bensoncheung2801 Жыл бұрын

Source?

@nabra97 Жыл бұрын

@@themug406 imagine that you have multiple mislabeled sketchy chemicals in improper packages. What is the chance you will mix them up at some point, which will cause you to improperly handle or combine them, which may threaten both you and the people around you?

@princenoah21 4 жыл бұрын

A warning to all thieves: It might be illegal to set up a spring gun, but it doesn't mean some angry/fed up home owner won't do it anyway.

@luib3695 4 жыл бұрын

Breaking and entering is illegal, people do it anyway What makes the theif think others won't follow the law either and set a trap

@princenoah21 4 жыл бұрын

@@luib3695 My point stands.

@Sesshomaru474 4 жыл бұрын

Correct and it's not illegal, even if they said so. They also found it legal to illegally imprison American citizens that happen to be Japanese during WW2. This is another instance where the law/system is wrong.

@princenoah21 4 жыл бұрын

@@Sesshomaru474 Notice I said, "it MIGHT be"

@alxjones 4 жыл бұрын

@Casa Del Amo Yeah, with just a little more effort you can rig up that shotgun to kill not only the intruder but also his entire family. But now you've killed innocent people, no way you're getting away with that, so let's just tweak it a bit and take out all of humanity. No one to catch you in the act now!

@Motofiend 4 жыл бұрын

When he said 'we keep our precious belongings' i was hoping for the whispered 'indochino'

@this_is_patrick 4 жыл бұрын

Ikr? We all keep our Indochinos in our homes.

@Motofiend 4 жыл бұрын

@@this_is_patrick Until now i was protecting mine with a sweet trip wire connected to a decommissioned 105mm howitzer. This video has made me rethink that tho.

@bumblingbureaucrat6110 4 жыл бұрын

@@Motofiend You are right, you ought to rethink the Decomissioned part of that sentence.

@VladAudio 2 жыл бұрын

The writing on this episode is phenomenal and the delivery is superb. Great sound mix too

@jaysridhar8861 2 жыл бұрын

A question: if any one of the signs inside or outside of the property said „trespassers will be shot“, would this have changed the outcome, even if it was with a spring loaded gun?

@HappyBeezerStudios 2 жыл бұрын

That opens up the question of a self-firing contraption would be seen the same way as a person with a gun. A person who can be argued with and who could deliberately own the gun not at the person while shooting. A human can judge the situation and would be able to adjust the use of force to be appropriate to the situation. Would be able to distinguish between a burglar and a neighbor asking if they can borrow the shovel or kids exploring the spooky ruin.

@the_undead Жыл бұрын

I think they would have gotten reduced punishment but probably still would have been punished. Also no I don't think that would make it the same as a human with a gun because like the other person said a human with a gun would be able to tell the difference between some 17 year olds who were looking at this spooky ruin and like what's in there as compared to some people who are actually trying to find some money or things they could sell for money because sometimes capitalism is cruel

@Didi-wq8hw Жыл бұрын

It probably would've been better but I am not a lawyer. However the biggest flaw in their argument the whole time was calling the gun a deterrent. It can't be a deterrent if you make it so nobody can see it to be deterred from opening the door. It's just a sneak attack. Not even arguing on the morality or ethics of it, it's just not a claim they can make

@the_undead Жыл бұрын

@@Didi-wq8hw it's not about knowing the laws it's about simple logic, if the stuff in that house is getting stolen then maybe move it out of the house. I've seen people in this comment thread arguing that they should be able to keep stuff there because it's their house and technically they're correct but the easiest way to solve a problem is identify what it is instead of ignore the fact that it's a problem

@mitotakjde9763 10 ай бұрын

BUT now imagine that stuff in your home where you actually live keeps getting stolen... what are you supposed to move out of there then? It shouldnt matter if its a primary residence property.. they couldve been living there and went for a 1 day trip, so in that scenario they would have to take all their stuff with them each time? or even when they go to work each day so the house is empty for multiple hours each day... what are they supposed to do then when despite all measures, people still come to steal their stuff while they are at work?.. i see a home as an untouchable castle, so when you place a warning signs for firefighters warning them to not go inside that its mined, you should be able to turn your home into a fckin minefield with 50 booby traps... If you warn firefighters to never go inside, then you should be free to do whatever, if some criminal ignores these warnings and still decides to invade your house then you should be free to do whatever to them without any consequences. they invaded your one safe space you have so you should be allowed to shoot them or explode them into a pile of human goop, and its ONLY their fault. you didnt make them invade your home, so no matter how you kill them, you shouldnt be blamed for any of it. If they just stayed outside of your home, they would be completely safe. they willingly decided to roll the dice with possible outcomes of stealing someones stuff and losing their life. they decided to gamble their life away, you didnt make them do that... @@the_undead

@abigaillilac1370 3 жыл бұрын

Idea: Don't store your valuable heirlooms in a broken down, abandoned home. Another idea: Don't break into someone's house.

@Ristaak 3 жыл бұрын

@@criticalmoment3859 It's a bit more nuanced then that. Nice strawman you built though.

@JamesScholesUK 3 жыл бұрын

Plot twist: "If it please the court, we would like to pay the damages in the form of: One (1) indefensible, isolated farmhouse."

@deanholderde5959 3 жыл бұрын

@@Ristaak I thought they just made a strange comment.

@deanholderde5959 3 жыл бұрын

@@criticalmoment3859 although seemingly not.

@deanholderde5959 3 жыл бұрын

@@Ristaak so I guess it’s fair on you?

@QE-cv7ti 4 жыл бұрын

This animation is GOLD it’s so cute. I can only imagine the effort that went into this and it absolutely paid off in my mind. I’ll be here for all the future Real True Crimes

@creshiell 4 жыл бұрын

Says illustrations are done by Alex Duran, I searched the name to find more work but came up empty 😭😭😭

@r.k.8718 4 жыл бұрын

I agree. This episode is probably my favorite of all the LegalEagle episodes, and I recognize the hard work that went into it. As it was playing, I thought, "Well, if Devin ever gets tired of lawyering, he could narrate videos and probably read audiobooks." The animation style, soundtrack, and format are engaging, entertaining, and informative, clearly laying out the necessary information without sounding like a dry case study. I'll be back for more, Mr. Stone, and you may have just convinced me to sign up for CuriosityStream and Nebula. While I don't agree with the court's decision in this case (see my objection below), I absolutely love the way in which this case was presented. My objection to the outcome of this case is that the appellee was aware of the inherent danger in his criminal activity. He proceeded through the home quietly and cautiously, aware his actions could lead to confrontation with a homeowner. It is well known homeowners have a right to defend property and life with force that may lead to injury or death. Consequently, Mr. Katko's injuries were no more grievous--and were in fact likely less grievous--than a direct confrontation with the homeowner.

@amfcapone Жыл бұрын

Why didn't the homeowners just take their valuables out of the house? If they weren't going to live there and maintain it, why not sell it? A little odd. Great video!!!

@Seraph777Iscah 2 жыл бұрын

Why would You leave your valuables in a decaying unoccupied house for 10 years!?!? Why not rent a storage unit?

@FriedrichHerschel 4 жыл бұрын

Objection: The production quality of this video is too damn good.

@stefanmuc2k 4 жыл бұрын

Sustained. (Let's face it, LegalEagle never sustains or rejects the objections anyway, so might as well do it ourselves.)

@jeremysaklad6703 4 жыл бұрын

I honestly would prefer it without the animation. Maybe I’m just boring.

@lizicadumitru9683 4 жыл бұрын

@@jeremysaklad6703 I'm with ya

@Ihasnotomato 4 жыл бұрын

Hmm what if they decided to put a sign on the door that said “this room is armed with a booby trap shotgun, enter at your own risk?”

@katymvt 4 жыл бұрын

he actually did the opposite by putting tin over the window so that nobody could see that it was booby-trapped.

@brainmind4070 4 жыл бұрын

Because then someone could safely discharge the booby trap and then enter at will.

@BeetleBuns 4 жыл бұрын

It would still be illegal, you need to be present to claim self-defense, otherwise it is mansluaghter.

@sniffersmc2827 4 жыл бұрын

@@BeetleBuns this was just this case, the judge decides exactly what law applies to the current situation, if there was a sign there it would have been obvious that it's 100% his fault

@BeetleBuns 4 жыл бұрын

@@sniffersmc2827 the Supreme Court has ruled booby traps illegal, so signs won't protect you. That's like a child mol€ster wearing a sign that says "I am a child mol€ster" and arguing that the child was forwarned. You can't just rely on disclaimers and warning signs, you still need to follow the law. www.lawyerlinda.com/booby-traps/

@giddy6939 2 жыл бұрын

Dude, please do more The Case Of! I love chilling out to this this stuff. Your storytelling is great!

@speak91-r.i.s.e.78 2 жыл бұрын

While I sympathize with the homeowners, I’m curious why they didn’t remove the valuables?

@BlueBatboy 2 жыл бұрын

where else would they put it though

@dirtyharry5320 2 жыл бұрын

Irrelevant.

@speak91-r.i.s.e.78 2 жыл бұрын

@@BlueBatboy transfer them to the other home that they owned.

@BlueBatboy 2 жыл бұрын

@@speak91-r.i.s.e.78 fair point

@trevorbeyer9720 2 жыл бұрын

@@BlueBatboy wherever they live?

@thedijking 4 жыл бұрын

Are we all going to ignore the fact that LegalEagle nailed the art of story telling? This is compelling.

@ajohndaeal-asad6731 4 жыл бұрын

Allan Dixon yeah this was amazing

@jamescam04 4 жыл бұрын

Allan Dixon I wonder whether anyone else had noticed.

@SevenCompleted 4 жыл бұрын

Dude he's a lawyer plus the music helps

@dipnaut2071 4 жыл бұрын

Agreed

@Jearrod 4 жыл бұрын

A big media business with hundreds thousands of daily viewers and large amounts of funds had the money to hire an animator? That’s about average on KZfaq these days.

@Live4Gunz 4 жыл бұрын

Meanwhile in reality. Homeowner: "So if someone breaks into my house I need to make sure they don't leave alive if I don't want to get sued."

@yumri4 4 жыл бұрын

Depending on the state if the uninvited intruder leaves alive it is illegal to have shot him/her in self defense and/or in defense of property. Now if they do not leave alive and are shot while on your property in the front of their body not the back then in all states you will get off without being charged for anything. Now IF you shot him/her in the back then it might put your in jail even if they are dead. IF you do it when not on your property but close to it it will still put you in jail not them. IF you only harm them but not kill them then they might have a case that you were not effective in defending your own home and family thus putting you in jail.

@uprising1468 4 жыл бұрын

@@yumri4 amusingly enough it depends on state's statue of defense. most places in the south theres stand your ground law where someone breaks in uninvited(as long as the owner is inside) you could in theory pink mist them. Where in contrast many northern states state a castle law where you have no escape, intruder intends harm and help is to far out to intervene could you yeet them (police response varies from 3-15 mins). As for boobytraps....its a no no

@cindyhutchins9216 4 жыл бұрын

Not at all. Had the family been present the verdict would have gone the other way. You can't just leave a lethal weapon in a epmty house. Its a disregard for himan life. There is a reasonable expection that something will go horribly wrong. Like the lady said. What if it had been some kids? Or in a modern setting, a youtuber? And since was when do we cut off the limbs of theives?

@bradleyselk9642 4 жыл бұрын

I own over 800 acres and a excavator. My house is in the middle of the property so no one will hear the shots.

@usul573 4 жыл бұрын

Their family could sue. It's a civil suit also not criminal.

@JarthenGreenmeadow 2 жыл бұрын

"This situation is exactly the same" Bad argument if I've ever seen one.

@ingiford175 2 жыл бұрын

The 'what about the children' got me. Its like you should not speed and you should be charged more because a child might have ran out into the highway.

@chJohnJobs 2 жыл бұрын

@@ingiford175 agreed, found that argument to be a huge stretch. much like the clients limb

@FIDEL_CASHFLOW_ 2 жыл бұрын

More videos like this please. The story lines and the illustrations add a whole new depth to your videos.

@pfeilspitze 4 жыл бұрын

Moral of the story: Make sure the shotgun kills them. Then they can't sue you in civil court.

@wardsrentalandtaxi7739 4 жыл бұрын

Their family or dependents probably could.

@FiresideBoomer 4 жыл бұрын

Civil court no, but you end up in jail via criminal court for manslaughter/murder

@princenoah21 4 жыл бұрын

@@wardsrentalandtaxi7739 They'd be less likely to win since they didn't witness it.

@muleycrazy121 4 жыл бұрын

Agreed make sure no one can sue you back

@FiresideBoomer 4 жыл бұрын

@@princenoah21 There was another person in the house with the guy

@dmoneyonair 4 жыл бұрын

Katko and macdounough are the most carburgler names ive ever heard

@milkshaketurtle7937 4 жыл бұрын

It sounds like the robbers in a new home alone movie.

@0The_Farlander0 4 жыл бұрын

Katko and Mac Dounough Acquisitions Services: You want it, we'll get it, no questions asked!

@belkacemgueliane7490 2 жыл бұрын

a series like this one has the potential to become a KZfaq classic/must-watch, great job!!!

@tranquilthoughts7233 Жыл бұрын

My very first question would be: Why the hell did the homeowners leave the antiques and stuff in that old house even after it had been broken in repeatedly? That doesn't make any sense to me.

@AwesomeNinjaXD 4 жыл бұрын

"So, anyway, I started blastin'."

@killerkale2769 4 жыл бұрын

I ain't see so good so I missed

@remlatzargonix1329 4 жыл бұрын

josiah moose .....nope, that's why you should use a shotgun.....just have to point in general direction and almost guaranteed to hit.

@chevycole6474 4 жыл бұрын

The Awesome Ninja 😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂

@deondavis05712 4 жыл бұрын

Yeah frank woulda definitely been blasting at those clowns and woulda been hacked all his wife's memorabilia.

@baskets9362 4 жыл бұрын

First thing they taught in a self defense course is “dead men tell no tales”

@kinomora-gaming 4 жыл бұрын

I think you got that confused with Pirating course

@hiphopguy0 4 жыл бұрын

@@kinomora-gaming no, quite literally its there is only one side of a story when the other is dead. Never shoot to maim, shoot to kill.

@misakamikoto8785 4 жыл бұрын

also, money talks, if you're Elon Musk or Tim Apple or a billionaire and some low life thug breaks in and they shot him to death, guess who wins the lawsuit?

@baskets9362 4 жыл бұрын

Misaka Mikoto i doubt they’d have to resort to burglary

@user-mf8jp4kv8h 4 жыл бұрын

Exacly.

@stinkiepopsicle224 Жыл бұрын

Imagine if the Brines suddenly died, they are old after all, and the items in that home had to be distributed to those in the will. A lawful search of the home takes place to recover the items and one of the lawful participants opens that door and gets shot. It’s pure negligence on the Brines, and the fact that the trap was unattended means they were prepared to kill WHOEVER walked through that door.

@jarskil8862 Жыл бұрын

This already happened. A man booby trapped his whole house but died The house was then sold but it was full of deadly traps. And weight on word deadly. The guy aimed the traos on upperbody. All except one traps were disarmed. Location of the last trap is still unknown

@PerSon-xg3zr 6 ай бұрын

@@jarskil8862Get a remote thingy in there and look for it.

@larrytroxler7017 2 жыл бұрын

I love this new True Crime project! The illustration theme is great! I hope you can afford to keep it up.

@aidansmith3821 4 жыл бұрын

"Just because you did it, doesn't mean you're guilty!" Lawyer ad

@aryssamansfield9735 4 жыл бұрын

Stop quoting Jay's dad's law commercials

@Hoppip99 4 жыл бұрын

Except this is true in certain cases. You could accidentally kill someone without breaking any laws, therefore you wouldn't be convicted of any crime.

@bigsolidboss781 4 жыл бұрын

BETTER THAN SAUL!

@peaj4812 4 жыл бұрын

@@Hoppip99 Do you have an example? Most accidental deaths are considered manslaughter as far as I know.

@Hoppip99 4 жыл бұрын

Pearson James Manslaughter happens if you we’re breaking a law. For example: if you’re driving through a school zone and speeding and texting and driving, and a child runs out in front of you and you hit them, it’s manslaughter. That’s because you we’re driving recklessly and breaking laws. But, if you we’re going at or below the speed limit, not texting, and following all the rules of the road and a child runs out in front of you and you hit them it’s an accident and you likely won’t get convicted of a crime because it was simply an accident.

@albinarrate 3 жыл бұрын

Folks, if you ever want to setup something like this, just add a sign that says "This house has booby traps with guns, by trespassing you voluntarily desist from any further claim."

@krillnyetheshrimpguy6152 3 жыл бұрын

big brain plays.

@deanholderde5959 3 жыл бұрын

That is legitimately deterrence, it actually makes people aware of the risk, which could legitimately be carried out.

@wizard7314 3 жыл бұрын

Yes, that would be the common sense thing to do. These yokels must have either had a bloodlust or been very stupid.

@rianantony 3 жыл бұрын

For real yeah

@noirto2 3 жыл бұрын

might not work if not truly ridiculously highly visible at middle of the night, cause the trespasser will argue the sign was concealed and thus irrelevant.

@TheBreannesm 2 жыл бұрын

This is brilliant. I throughly enjoyed this video. I remember researching and creating a memo for this case in my Paralegal education. I wish I could have watched this video back then to better understand this case!

@ampersandellipsis747 Жыл бұрын

can you put some sort of disclaimer or contract on the door, stating that anyone who enters cannot sue for physical damage or death, as there are traps on the premises?

@the_undead Жыл бұрын

That would likely come down to local laws but worst case scenario it doesn't change anything best case scenario it gets you out of all charges and the most likely scenario is you aren't punished as heavily but are still punished

@toddyoung569 4 жыл бұрын

Objection: Mahaska County is corn fields , not wheat fields. Source: Iowa county boy here who's been there far too many times.

@ca11mekarma42 4 жыл бұрын

Nice county in general, Osky is a cesspool though.

@goreobsessed2308 4 жыл бұрын

You got to rotate your crops probably was wheat at the time

@jeremyr3533 4 жыл бұрын

Actually you have to rotate your crops or you earth will dry out so they should have just said "farm land"

@Matrim42 4 жыл бұрын

Rotate to wheat? What do you think this is? Wisconsin? This is Iowa! They’d rotate to soybeans.

@justyouraveragefluff2298 4 жыл бұрын

Dont they rotate the crops to keep the land healthy and all that?

@JamilKhan-xu9fo 4 жыл бұрын

You should be on Netflix this is way better than other real true crime series.

@FravasTheBard 4 жыл бұрын

Hell yeah.

@frateranpvbail-shm6912 4 жыл бұрын

Don't need more people with TDS on there..

@holyravioli5795 4 жыл бұрын

I dunno, murdertown is pretty good.

@derpyliciousmiku 4 жыл бұрын

*COUGH COUGH* forensic files *COUGH COUGH*

@jonathan0berg 4 жыл бұрын

I rather enjoyed American vandal, though it is a parody.

@lucisferre6361 2 жыл бұрын

I paused it: I think that Katko's attorney is likely more correct. No one was home. Not like the lady was there and shot the intruders. No signs warning that trespassers will be shot or anything like that, either. It's hard to be a deterrent when something is a hidden surprise. The deterrent effect only occurs after the fact, in this case. That kinda defeats the purpose.

@orthiaclamedesang1797 Жыл бұрын

Note : a blank-loaded booby-trap, or multiple of them for the matter, would probably have been just as effective as a deterrent. Especially if the homeowners had planted a "trepassers will be shot" sign. I mean... psychological warfare you see ? Who's going to be bold enough to check either if : -The shot come from an actual human or a booby-trap, knowing he's himself unharmed ? -The booby-trap happened to have been luckily wrongfully (or rightfully, question of POV) aimed ? And I would argue that if you already put a blank at the entrance + a "trepassers will be shot" sign and then the trepasser proceed to actually persever upon trepassing and finally got shot by an actual live booby-trap... well it would still be wrong, and most probably illegal too, but also kinda deserved.

@Etrius_Fysik Жыл бұрын

Well...I'd be willing to bet money he stopped burgling, after that. Seems like it served it's purpose, to me.

@lucisferre6361 Жыл бұрын

@@Etrius_Fysik based on the depth of thought provided in your reply, hopefully you are not a judge in our legal system and throw away any summons for jury duty that you receive.

@whensomethingcriesagain 8 ай бұрын

Pretty sure the mechanism of most deterrents is to hit the first guy who runs into it, so that way every subsequent guy gets deterred

@AlejandroGonzalez-ej4lp 4 ай бұрын

I don't know man, how many times did they get robbed again after this?

@Crowski 2 жыл бұрын

This is impressive. I love the illustration. I love the narrative. Wonderfully done!!!!!

@MedicinalKarnage25 4 жыл бұрын

Time for our Final Grade Pros: Well Crafted arguments No Bailiff tackling Cons: They skip the discovery process for the sake of an expedited narrative. For this episode of Real True Crime, I give it a B.

@keiyakins 4 жыл бұрын

Not just Discovery, they skipped all the way up to appeals!

@gamepocalypsegaming278 4 жыл бұрын

Cons: no whispered “indochino” after the “precious belongings”

@Ostentatiousnessness 4 жыл бұрын

Honestly I feel like “No Bailiff tackling” should be in con section. Always love a good Bailiff tackle, no matter the opponent it’s always Super Effective.

@glitch4583 4 жыл бұрын

@@Ostentatiousnessness I know, right? I'm really rooting for a good ol' fashion tackling in the next animation.

@keiyakins 4 жыл бұрын

@@Ostentatiousnessness Except against ghost types.

@waysidetundra3352 3 жыл бұрын

"This house is rigged with 10 tons of TNT enter at your own risk"

@JamesBen937 3 жыл бұрын

Except they blocked the view of the gun so it was like 10 tons but no warning

@takatamiyagawa5688 3 жыл бұрын

I don't think that constitutes protecting your property anymore if it's all going to blow up.

@Abyzz_Knight 3 жыл бұрын

@@takatamiyagawa5688 If I can't have it, NO ONE WILL

@SneakySolidSnake 3 жыл бұрын

@@Abyzz_Knight i died laughing. nice!

@andreiapostol5906 3 жыл бұрын

@@JamesBen937 except it did have a warning: the chair jammed against the door, which everyone has neglected and caused the innocent party to be punished.

@cmed1822 2 жыл бұрын

It's Storytime! I love this rendition of briefing legal cases. Please keep them coming.

2 жыл бұрын

IMHO they should be punished for the dangerous booby trap but the criminal also shouldn't profit from criminal activity which means he shouldn't get any damages.

@imnotmike 2 жыл бұрын

He's not really profiting from a few thousand dollars. They paid his medical costs, and maybe some of the cost of his recovery when he couldn't work. It's not like this guy was living the high life from that settlement. Given your knowledge of what happened, would you willingly accept the resulting damage to your leg and time spent recovering and permanent debilitation, in exchange for - what was it, $30,000? Adjusted for inflation that's probably $50-60,000 today, with most of that only going to cover hospital bills. Because if you wouldn't at least consider doing it, then you really shouldn't consider it profit.

2 жыл бұрын

@@imnotmike Good point. Being European I hadn't really considered medical expenses. Since it's an injury resulting from the boobytrap I guess that's fair.

@princenoah21 4 жыл бұрын

Oh, I found this. After the case had been settled. "Marvin Katko's own home was burgled in 1976, with burglars making off with several valuables"

@devilwoman24 4 жыл бұрын

I'm very pleased to read this!

@minutemadejuiceboxes9991 4 жыл бұрын

Prince Noah damn if only he had a shotgun and some wire

@princenoah21 4 жыл бұрын

@@minutemadejuiceboxes9991 Then again, maybe what was stolen is what he stole the first time? Or, maybe what he stole from the Briney's should have covered his shotgun injuries. :)

@stevenbacon-cheddar9914 4 жыл бұрын

Good!

@YuiFunami 4 жыл бұрын

he also shot himself

@GabeTheGrump 4 жыл бұрын

I was expecting the Wife to say, "No don't aim for the chest, aim for the head!"

@galexeqe 4 жыл бұрын

I bet he cursed his wife later for making him change the aim The thief only decided to sue after he served his time, before that everyone had no problem with what the homeowner did

@johnoster4098 4 жыл бұрын

I thought she was gonna suggest a good ol' midwest vasectomy

@kevinal 4 жыл бұрын

If the guy died from the shot gun wounds the wife of the deceased could of still sued the Brineys. Also the Brineys could of than faced possible murder charges as well.

@xImBeaST12321x 4 жыл бұрын

@@galexeqe that's cause in the moment, he hadn't payd the price of being inhabilitated for one year. And the video portrays that the robber knew he was wrong in the noment, however over time his punishment was unnecessary

@MrPolklop 4 жыл бұрын

Same here

@jrivera482 2 жыл бұрын

This is by far one of my favorite videos I've seen on KZfaq. Thanks!

@seasuper3402 2 жыл бұрын

The thing that annoys me about this is that they had gone through every option at their disposal and they always got burglarized so what action could they have taken

@eryuu4016 2 жыл бұрын

Exactly. It was like their last resort. Plus, the bedroom door was locked. It could be argued that he was breaking and entering for the third time.

@abetterlivedlife 2 жыл бұрын

"Every option." My first thought during the video was "Why aren't they renting the place out?" They left it abandoned for years. Didn't even conduct proper maintenance and upkeep. Don't get me wrong, I feel bad for them and I don't feel bad for the criminal, but they had other options. Moving their stuff to the basement or attic and renting the place would have been much safer.

@caterpie4546 2 жыл бұрын

I feel like there is a bit if a jump from putting up locks and signs to setting up a shotgun trap to seriously injure someone.

@calvinscarvings.66 2 жыл бұрын

Yeah but also some signs put up warning about lethal traps would have probably deterred most if not all people. It wouldn't say what kind or where as so the trap could work if the signs didn't.

@kazaookami 2 жыл бұрын

But why aim the weapon to cause harm? Why not set it up to scare trespassers? Or perhaps find save storage for the valuables and this remove the reason it's always invaded. There's so many options rather than a inhumane approach of a shotgun aimed low. This pretty well falls under cruel and unusual punishment.

@mrouch-pl9lq 4 жыл бұрын

Katko saw the medical bills and realized that there were only two options: 1. Lawsuit 2. Eating nothing but instant noodles for 5 years

@michaelcalabrese5800 4 жыл бұрын

Nah bro its the 1950s all you gotta do is drive go somewhere else and they'll never find you.

@sheven18 4 жыл бұрын

instant noodles did not come to market until 1971 this event happened in 1957 they have to wait 14 years before they could buy instant noodles.

@dabirdie1797 4 жыл бұрын

@@sheven18 It's a joke, the first instant noodles came out in 1958, and this event happened in 1967.

@Phantom0fTheRouter 2 жыл бұрын

@@dabirdie1797 - incorrect. Momofuku Ando invented instant noodles in 1958, but his company, Nissin, created the brand Top Ramen to market to the rest of the world in 1970. Because the US did not have typical ramen-sized bowls, testing proved it to be a hard sell, so they further developed that into Nissin Cup Noodle released in 1972, with its own disposable cup, and wide releasing Top Ramen much later.

@dabirdie1797 2 жыл бұрын

@@Phantom0fTheRouter They were still created in 1958 and sold in Japan lmao

@KentoBento 4 жыл бұрын

This video turned out even better than I expected. Good stuff Devin!

@goawayihavecommentstomake1488 3 жыл бұрын

His name is Eagle, esquire.

@availanila 3 жыл бұрын

@@goawayihavecommentstomake1488 Legal is his second name too.

@swine13 3 жыл бұрын

Yeah Legal eagle. First name legal, second name... eagle...

@theultimatebananaboi163 3 жыл бұрын

ayy kento bento

@arctic215 3 жыл бұрын

Oh yep I knew who was behind those animations

@Leo_HuangAB 2 жыл бұрын

There was a similar case few years ago in China, however; the only difference is instead of a shotgun the homeowner decided to connect a electric wire to the metal doorknob of the front door of his apartment. This ended with a criminal being electrocuted to death and the home owner being arrested and charged with I think first degree murder and excessive defense of property

@HappyBeezerStudios 2 жыл бұрын

That is actually a really good case. Would a normal person that touches the doorknob be with the intention to breaking in.

@theholygasp Жыл бұрын

I loved this video. Of all your series, this is my favourite!

@redpanda4102 4 жыл бұрын

When you get your leg almost shot off breaking into a house Vibe Check

@WaywardVet 4 жыл бұрын

No kidding. Fine, here's you're 30k. Enjoy the limp.

@VaporeonEnjoyer1 4 жыл бұрын

I feel like I just watched "Are you afraid of the dark?" but instead of a bunch of kids its a lawyer.

@ValkyrieTiara 4 жыл бұрын

The opening DEFINITELY strongly reminded me of AYAotD XD

@thetman0068 4 жыл бұрын

That's even more scary!

@holmboy 9 ай бұрын

Fun fact, the current Iowa Code chapter that allows for use of force in defense of property (including deadly force if a person has unlawfully entered a dwelling by stealth or force and remains there) also explicitly disclaims that it isn't authorizing the use of spring guns/traps, and another section says the setting of a spring gun/trap is an aggravated misdemeanor

@randallflynn3772 11 ай бұрын

Thanks! This video is awesome 👌, top notch. It really strikes to the heart of the matter about what actions are reasonable in matters of defense.

@dethbook9ballz 4 жыл бұрын

"So, like a true American, Katko filed suit." I love this channel sooooo much 😍😍😍😍

@politenonparticipant4859 4 жыл бұрын

A true American yes. A very, very bad, true American. Shoulda lost the case and had to give his leg up in the counter suit.

@electroflame6188 3 жыл бұрын

@@politenonparticipant4859 name does not check out

@xientau9028 4 жыл бұрын

Question; Would anything in the argument have changed if they put up signs that said "Trespassers will be Shot"?

@catalintimofti1117 4 жыл бұрын

No You cant just shoot any tresspassee

@santiago_n3651 4 жыл бұрын

@@catalintimofti1117 you can, see how in the video it says that the use of force is allowed (under certain circumstances)

@curry5908 4 жыл бұрын

the hunter you can if you were currently present at home

@arete4390 4 жыл бұрын

Trespassers are often cowards and most of the time they will back away. Its like asking if that 20$ vase is worth your life.

@PrimalProductions101 4 жыл бұрын

Please look into your own state laws as the limit to what force you can use varies and is interpreted differently in different states. If you are in a state and unaware of the law it is best to just rely on the basic self defense using 'reasonable force' aka equal or slightly greater force than the threat you are dealing with(guy tries to rob you with knife, gun is okay. guy tries to rob you like a chad unarmed and you shot him, he might get a valid case in certain states).

@aaronkoenders4810 2 жыл бұрын

Appreciated the animations on this one, good quality script too

@Bravohalo 2 жыл бұрын

I would think the biggest problem is the lack of any ability to act according to circumstances. You can't use lethal force without being able to say specifically that you felt it was necessary in that moment. I love the argument that a trap isn't a trap on private property, though. That's a good one.

@ARedMotorcycle 4 жыл бұрын

When she wanted the shotgun lowered earlier in the story, I thought she was aiming for the thief's balls. Being right below the abdomen and all.

@UnluckyConqueror 4 жыл бұрын

Same tbh

@ethanhunt2777 4 жыл бұрын

That happened to me once, I ended up selling my heirlooms because they were useless at that point.

@Hillers62 4 жыл бұрын

That would have been better justice...not propitiating more thieves as their daddy would teach them...

@grayaj23 4 жыл бұрын

@@ethanhunt2777 Subtle. I like it.

@Matrim42 4 жыл бұрын

Hillers62 So the penalty for theft should be castration? A bit draconian, that.

@faceofsarcasm4947 4 жыл бұрын

So you're telling me the Bandits could've sued the McCallisters after Home Alone?

@ghostratsarah 4 жыл бұрын

sadly for them, the boy was present.

@Mr179351 4 жыл бұрын

Face of Sarcasm But Kevin was home and in fear of his life. He’d been threatened verbally: “We know that you’re in there, and that you’re all alone”. He used reasonable force (pellet gun and hot doorknob) to attempt to deter them then escalated once they were in the house (paint cans and Joe Pesci’s hair on fire come to mind).

@Kalenz1234 4 жыл бұрын

Nope, cause the kid was home.

@politicallynonbinary 4 жыл бұрын

Even if he wasn't home I don't think it would be as reasonable to assume that any of the traps he put in place would be sufficient to cause the death of an intruder. All of that seems a little closer to the example of what if he had cut himself breaking a window. A shotgun however does pretty much one thing...

@TheDisarminghinkle 4 жыл бұрын

A few of the traps seem dangerous enough to warrant concern if Kevin wasn't present. Dropping an iron onto someone's head from two stories up could fracture their skull if not outright kill them. The flamethrower aimed at face level (it's coincidence that the person who happened to open the door was so short) can CERTAINLY cause massive bodily harm. The paint cans DID cause bodily harm (knocked out a tooth).

@user-qd3rs3bv5r 2 ай бұрын

Awesome AMWESOME way to learn about the law, thank you so much LEAGLE

@magicien233 2 жыл бұрын

On top of the fact that a few items left in an empty house is not worth somebodys life, what if there was a fire and emergency services had to check if anyone was in the building?

@reedman0780 4 жыл бұрын

When some dudes broke into your house so you release the CLAYMORE ROOMBAS

@epikmanthe3rd 4 жыл бұрын

I should specify movement of the roombas would almost definitely set off the claymores. Claymores use a laser tripwire, so moving the claymores itself would set off the lasers.

@JstAnotherJesusFreak 4 жыл бұрын

In spite of the specification, the mental picture that this comment gave me is hilarious. I cannot upvote this enough.

@brentgaston9987 4 жыл бұрын

@@epikmanthe3rd claymores are set off with blasting caps not "laser tripwires" like in video games

@gfcmoto4843 4 жыл бұрын

That's not how claymores work.

@reedman0780 4 жыл бұрын

@@gfcmoto4843 bruh its a boogaloo joke.

@nigelwoods1154 4 жыл бұрын

So, just to confirm, I can put bear traps behind my door, as long as I'm home.

@jamestown8398 4 жыл бұрын

That appears to be the case. You're allowed to use lethal force if you fear for your life or health, which would require you to actually be home while the traps are set. This argument would be stronger if you lived in an area with non-human predators (such as bears).

@jeanettewaverly2590 4 жыл бұрын

@@pw5975 Not with my in-laws.

@KomoliRihyoh 4 жыл бұрын

Kevin Mccallister downgraded from violent psychopath to defensive homeowner... er... resident.

@Necroscat 4 жыл бұрын

Think of it like this, if someone is breaking in your house when your home you can shoot them if you fear for your life. They weren't home so they had no reason to fear for their life & therefore no reason to shoot him.

@justyouraveragefluff2298 4 жыл бұрын

In Texas you don't have to be home

@LadyTeacher 10 ай бұрын

I love this style! More videos like this would be greatly welcomed! 🎉

@henrikingholt9245 2 жыл бұрын

Would it have been legal if there was another sign present, saying something like ”Enter at your own risk!” or ”Warning! Deadly Traps inside!” Then the shotgun wouldn’t have been a surprise. How would that work?

@Zlonk7 Жыл бұрын

It wouldn't. They put foil over the window do you couldn't see it. Also, imagine if some kids wandered inside because it was a creepy house they wanted to explore then got maimed for life. It was a very dumb decision to even keep the property because at the state it was in would've cost a lot to repair and would be a financial burden. Also no clue why they kept very valuable antiques in a house that was slowly falling apart. The owners seem extremely dumb and irresponsibe

@MrAapasuo Жыл бұрын

problem of it still being there would remain. lot of people only see this as burglar getting what was coming but what about any other situation. a kid who cant read or doesnt notice the warning wandering in and exploring what they assume to be abandoned house? a fireman hurriedly breaking in when theres fire? a new owner who bought the house not being warned what kind of trap it was and ends up getting shot? problem isnt that it harmed a burglar. Its that it will harm anyone, no matter what they are doing

@dl0l.l0lb 4 жыл бұрын

Theres a lesson to be learned here, dead men tell no tales.

@theMightyWhytey 4 жыл бұрын

Dead men tell no tales, but widows win lawsuits.

@shadenox8164 4 жыл бұрын

@@theMightyWhytey Also when self defense doesn't apply like in cases like these you might just straight up be looking at murder or manslaughter charges.

@mattsupertramp6506 4 жыл бұрын

😂😂😂

@deusvult8251 4 жыл бұрын

@@shadenox8164 self defense includes property and valuables under lock and key

@tomhill3248 4 жыл бұрын

Yup, mercy is for the weak, Katco wasn't weak. So he shouldn't have been given mercy.

@jayhafe 4 жыл бұрын

“Booby trap” spelled backwards is “party boob”.

@jekblom123 4 жыл бұрын

huh... nnnnnice...

@frankienamosaki7547 4 жыл бұрын

Mind... Blown...

@FarikoWishless 4 жыл бұрын

SO! In short every super loose drunk chick at a party is likely a trap. Gotcha

@TheGamebuzzHD 4 жыл бұрын

Nice.

@isaachinds3736 4 жыл бұрын

@@adamfarra4692 Yes it is.

@speak91-r.i.s.e.78 2 жыл бұрын

The storytelling in this video is brilliant and engaging. As an English nerd, thank you!

@joshuaalmond8429 2 жыл бұрын

I watched this right when it came out, and just read the case today for my torts class! great to rewatch!

@yagopone7404 4 жыл бұрын

"The best self defense story is told by one side" -Tactical Dalai Llama

@thugasaurusrex6004 4 жыл бұрын

Thats an amazing quote lmao

@sparkplug1018 4 жыл бұрын

Very true, dead men tell no tales.

@kalinsapotato 4 жыл бұрын

Imagine a llama saying that.

@KaizoeAzurum 4 жыл бұрын

@@kalinsapotato A tactical one at that! And it's big, or an ocean, depending on how serious you are about translating "dalai". By Shor's bones! A tactical ocean llama! The most fiendishly fiend of fiendish fiendishness!

@Gooberpatrol66 4 жыл бұрын

@@sparkplug1018 SHIVER MY TIMBERS SHIVER MY SAILS

@82dorrin 4 жыл бұрын

Home Alone dialed up to 11.

@Blasted2Oblivion 4 жыл бұрын

Not really. Kevins shit would have killed anyone not in movie land.

@KaelBanner 4 жыл бұрын

On the other hand kevin was at least home at the time.

@82dorrin 4 жыл бұрын

@@Blasted2Oblivion Good point. The bucket of paint alone would've at least broken someone's face. The blowtorch to the head would be quite deadly.

@ErwinPommel 4 жыл бұрын

Stepping on a Micro Machine barefoot is also always fatal. I know from experience.

@meganhartmann180 Жыл бұрын

I just learned about torts defenses in a paralegal class, and our discussion of "spring guns" reminded me of this video. Will have to re-watch and see how my understanding of the case has changed.

@themug406 Жыл бұрын

Should it (not would it) make any difference if a person sat on the bed, keeping guard, inflicting the same damage? Whats the difference really, deliberately setting up a defence mechanism that no law abiding citizen should trigger vs instead of pulling the string you pull the trigger? Ive no idea

@wegner7036 Жыл бұрын

@@themug406 The difference is that a man holding a gun has the sapience to assess the situation and decide whether or not to use lethal force. I suppose that you could put all criminals into a guillotine and leave their judgement up to a machine that literally only does one thing instead of a judge.

@RobotRock50 9 ай бұрын

I feel like the crux of this argument is not whether the burglars deserve compensation for their injury, but rather the fact that the homeowner left a loaded, unattended firearm rigged to shoot *anyone* that triggers it. Not to mention that this was set up in a mostly abandoned property that is unoccupied at most times of the year. It’s just extreme negligence on the part of the firearm owner. What if someone had broken in through the window or the trap failed to trigger? Now that burglar has stolen your firearm and when would you even know that it was stolen given the property is not attended to often? It’s just extremely irresponsible to do something like this, and you’d have to be extremely shortsighted to think it is a good idea.

@midnightgear2616 4 жыл бұрын

For a moment, when I got to the part about lowering the shotgun, I thought that she wanted him to aim between the legs, rather than the actual leg.

@topanteon 4 жыл бұрын

Why? Do you often enter a door doing a split?

@taylorwalker2814 4 жыл бұрын

@@topanteon To aim at the groin as opposed to the abdomen.

@liamnehren1054 4 жыл бұрын

lol i thought the same thing!

@edschramm6757 4 жыл бұрын

@@taylorwalker2814 that is a dangerously fine line, especially when you dont know the height of the person that will trigger the trap. if you get someone who is a little shorter than the target you expect, that goes from taking out their testicles to a mortal wound that is probably not going to be treatable, even if the ambulance was already rolling. statistically, roughly 1/3 of gunshot wounds are fatal. i believe shotgun wounds are worse than most other firearms, by reason of the pellets cause more tissue damage than an individual shot, which would lead to increased bleeding and chances of taking out a vital organ. even if you survive a blast to the abdomen, which would already be lucky, especially considering they were likely not near a hospital, blood poisoning (Sepsis) is almost certainly going to occur, as a result of punctured intestines. and your odds of surviving sepsis in the abdomen is less than 1/3 (i did research on this previously when a relative was in the hospital for punctured intestines, they didn't get sepsis and are still around. it also wasn't a weapon or attack).

@nerddwarf 4 жыл бұрын

@@edschramm6757 A shotgun sprays out death confetti that make your insides look like a smoothie!

@Willow4526 4 жыл бұрын

What if they put a warning sign, saying "there is a shotgun trap, enter at your own risk" ?

@triste4-21 4 жыл бұрын

That would have just made criminals savvy to it. Same reason you dont put a huge sign on top of a land mine announcing it. Once you know it's there, you can plan to defeat it.

@hermoda 4 жыл бұрын

I think there should be a sign warning of deadly force against trespassers. Only to protect children or drunkards that might break in for fun. I feel he forfeited any right to safety when breaking in with the intent to steal, bypassing signs and a boarded window.

@valornthered 4 жыл бұрын

@@triste4-21 Harder to plan for if you place the sign at the fence gate and it simply says "Landmines present beyond this point." Same if your warning sign of "Shotgun trap inside" is on the house's exterior, the shotgun could be anywhere in the house, and doesn't necessarily have to wired to a door.

@Willow4526 4 жыл бұрын

@@triste4-21 I'm asking for the legal ramifications. Not the practical implications. Especially bcos if I'm remembering correctly, you legally in some places or scenarios have to have a "beware of dog" sign.

@carbine090909 4 жыл бұрын

@@Willow4526 yeah Im surprised they didn't mention the steel plate on the window. Maybe in the longer version?

@rainingsnowpollen7049 Жыл бұрын

Love,love,love this. It's like listening to an old radio drama.

@craigortega9674 2 жыл бұрын

This video was awesome , good job

@lotgc 4 жыл бұрын

Criminal: [opens door] House: *YOU JUST ACTIVATED MY TRAP CARD!*

@SEELE-ONE 4 жыл бұрын

Micah Roberts funny enough, there is a trap card called “barrel behind the door” that illustrates this event perfectly

@lotgc 4 жыл бұрын

Ayy lmao. That's pretty funny

@GeneralLiuofBoston1911 4 жыл бұрын

@@SEELE-ONE Lmao

@Bluey 4 жыл бұрын

Criminals: *WELL* *_YOU_* *JUST ACTIVATED* *_MY/OUR_* *TRAP CARD TOO! I CAN SUE YOU!* House: *WELL* *_YOU_* *JUST ACTIVATED* *_MY/OUR_* *TRAP CARD TREE! WE KNOW WHO YOU ARE NOW SO WE CAN SUE YOU FOR TRESPASSING AND ROBBERY!* Criminals: *HA HA HA, THAT'S NOT HOW IT WORKS! YOU CAN'T SUE US/ME FOR THAT BECAUSE I/WE SAID SO!*

@erikkennedy4351 4 жыл бұрын

I wonder if it would have made a difference if they had a “trespassers will be shot” sign up or something.

@Lilitha11 4 жыл бұрын

Generally speaking, I don't think signs actually do much from a legal perspective. They do provide a little extra protection in grey areas, but if something is illegal it is usually illegal with or without signs.

@Kaozorier 4 жыл бұрын

I sort of like the idea though. That the homeowners are punished for defending their own property doesn't sit right with me, but at the same time the counterpoint that someone with less heinous intentions could be severely injured or worse is something I can agree with. Making clear that trespassers will be met with deadly force sort of feels like you're accepting the risks entering may face. Not sure if it'd work as a legal concept since I'm no lawyer though.

@jamesmccomb9525 4 жыл бұрын

@@Kaozorier You still had to break into the house either way in order to get shot. As a best case scenario against the trap, be it a child or inspector, if a child is shot then they've still committed a crime regardless of whether they're responsible or not. The inspector's job is to ensure the property is safe. Accounting for abnormal safety violations like a shotgun trap would fall into the job's responsibilities.

@Deathmastertx 4 жыл бұрын

@@jamesmccomb9525 But should breaking and entering into an unoccupied property be punished with maiming and potential death? Not every punishment is just because it happens to someone committing a criminal act. Punishments should be proportional to the crime.

@jamesmccomb9525 4 жыл бұрын

@@Deathmastertx If you commit a crime and die or get wounded during the crime, it's entirely your fault.