It always made me envious (?) that pets had so many more eye and hair colour options than sims lol
@Marticore7 ай бұрын
This. The customization of pets is more complex than Sims in every Sims game from 2 to 4 😆
@itstheazorean4 ай бұрын
I have heterochromia (left eye is brown and right eye is green) and I remember being so confused as to why I could make pets but not Sims with it And to this day (without mods ofc), not even TS3 and TS4 has that afaik
@h.e.l.lo.5.9.63 ай бұрын
Envious is the correct word here! :D (I think that's what you meant by the question mark?)
@NawiTheCore7 ай бұрын
Something that Sims 2 players need to understand is that you can either have great customization or realistic genetics. It'd take an insurmountable amount of coding to have both. So The Sims 3 has unlimited customization, but it sacrifices realistic genetics. The Sims 2, on the other hand, has realistic genetics, but really limited customization. Pets are a great example of how, as soon as you want to expand customization, you have to sacrifice genetics. Though, as you pointed out, they could have done a better job with the mixing of small and large dogs.
@whatever63777 ай бұрын
This! I vastly prefer to have realistic genetics. And personally, Sims 2 customization doesn't feel that limited to me because I feel like you can achieve similar results in appearence regardless of the number of sliders
@snowpocalypse697 ай бұрын
@@whatever6377 only having 4 hair colors and skin tones is pretty limiting though. geneticized cc skin tones in a wide range are a big improvement on the base game but still don't account for cool/warm tones
@whatever63777 ай бұрын
@@snowpocalypse69You're right, the colors are definitely limited. It's a shame.
@boybutch3 ай бұрын
@@snowpocalypse69 i think the one thing that sims 2 DEFINITELY fuck up on was the skin tones and the way that they "made" the non-white sims. I mean, some of the pre-set dark skinned (which, isn't even that dark, like u said.. 4 skin tones lol) sims feel down right racist if im gonna be honest. same with the asian folks (bc those are basically the only two other races we have pre-made) feel more like carnivores and less like yk... sims. like yes ofc the white sims look off in the way all sims do, but the way that they made some of the black men look is absolutely insane I love the sims and for its time it was revolutionary for many reasons and also with allowing same sex marriage/"unions", but ig it proved that they had a long way to go and have been trying to improve on it (albeit slowly but ill take what I can get)
@snowpocalypse693 ай бұрын
@@boybutch god yes, some of those townies are walking around looking like offensive racial caricatures. They made a lot of the "ethnic" face templates look like shit for no reason.
@nataliawit77077 ай бұрын
Merta: *you can only have six pets in one household* Also Merta: 6:20
@Marticore7 ай бұрын
Haha, mods can do a lot 😂
@aloe-lia7 ай бұрын
I am a simple woman. I see a Marticore video. I click.
@Jhud697 ай бұрын
Tbh I wonder if they left the puppies and kittens patternless as a reference to the few real life breeds that only get patterns as they grow up. Mostly in dogs, dalmatians are an example. In cats I think siamese are?
@Marticore7 ай бұрын
Maybe 🤔 But I'm also thinking about boars that are the other way around, they look like gooseberries when they're little 😆
@Jhud697 ай бұрын
@@Marticore Yep, that’s normal in wild animals. Boars, lions, deer, tapirs etc. It’s to make them blend with the environment more to hide from predators! While the pattern thing in dog and cat breeds is because the pattern shows later for a more complicated reason (I know that in siamese cats they’re “hot spots” basically)
@SnapshotOfASoul7 ай бұрын
AFAIK the code was there to allow them to inheirit patterns, as it's all done if you look into the files, there was just something wrong with it that didn't allow the patterns to work and a mod easily fixed this in a few moments. I'm guessing it broke during repeat edits and they couldn't figure it out.
@hellofwinnie7 ай бұрын
I tried to mix blue and yellow glowing cats (it's a CC) thinking I'll get green kittens 😅 ended up with four more yellow kittens
@xDodkaxD7 ай бұрын
wake up babe, the new marticore video just dropped. 🤩
@HeightofMediocrity7 ай бұрын
Marticore, I bow to you. I've been wanting a thorough explanation of this for almost 20 years now. Really excellent content as always.
@SamBryans1287 ай бұрын
I love using the unlockable weird colors and patterns for pets then breeding them to see what comes through. My favorite is the star pattern fur for cats. I will start investigating heterochromia and report my findings if any. First born syndrome with pets seems quite likely from what I've experienced. Except with the Crittur family in the bin. The 3 puppies that are born always look the same but if you breed Danny and Samantha again the puppies will look more like their parents.
@CreusaSims7 ай бұрын
6:29 SCREAMING WITH THIS HEAD
@ephemeralgrime29907 ай бұрын
I was so curious about this because I haven't played enough with puppies and kittens to know for myself how it turned out. Thank you!
@ritta71957 ай бұрын
OMG i spent over a week looking for this youtube channel. So glad I finally found it.
@Marticore7 ай бұрын
Hi there
@haileymorris1747 ай бұрын
Your videos are so calming and relaxing for me
@MiotaLee7 ай бұрын
Do pet babies affect the human generated babies? Like, do they work from the same seed or are they completely independent?
@Marticore7 ай бұрын
Yes, anything spawned/randomized in game impacts the sequence, that's why rolling Sims in CAS helps with firstborn syndrome
@FaeQueenCory7 ай бұрын
Given that pets were an expansion instead of having the development time of the base game... I wonder if the "cut corners" with their (lack of) genetics was an omen of things to come with 3 and 4.
@Tytar4 ай бұрын
I cant believe I played Sims 2 for all these years (and played Pets more than other expansions) and I learned as much as I did in this video. I also had no idea about the right-click to take a percentage of a template!! very interesting! To this day, the pet designer in Sims 2 impresses me. The layering, color choices, it's arguably more in depth than the sim creator. This is why it's one of my favorite expansions
@tikimillie7 ай бұрын
Honestly the pets feel so much more interactive, had my sim throw a bit of food to the cat, 10/10 made my day
@nhilz7 ай бұрын
NEW MARTICORE VIDEO LETS GOOO
@floopyboo7 ай бұрын
It is patently obvious now that the devs were testing out sims 3 genetics with sims 2 pets. And because we were all so excited by PETS!!!! they were like 'well, okay, players are fine with this downgrade in genetics, let's roll with it.'
@autism_and_niamh7 ай бұрын
All this time and I never understood why breeding large and small dogs together never produced an interesting mix... now I know it's always the mother dog's clone!! Amazing
@Swatme1017 ай бұрын
The KZfaq algorithm knew EXACTLY what I’d be clicking this morning 🎉😂
@Swatme1017 ай бұрын
Thanks!
@Marticore7 ай бұрын
No, thank YOU! ❤️
@thatapolloscat64047 ай бұрын
sorry for comment in polish but i'm to tired to write in english sory non-polish folks
@Marticore7 ай бұрын
No i będzie trzeba cały ten komentarz skopiować na polski kanał za jakiś czas
@thatapolloscat64047 ай бұрын
@@Marticore to możesz mi tutaj pisać który kotek w twoim eksperymencie był samicą a który samcem, to zrobię jeszcze rzetelniejszą analizę dla polaków HAHA
@Virumyu7 ай бұрын
That explains how our brown-white-red mother cat and white father cat ended up producing black-white female kittens, red Male kittens and one red-white male kitten... 🤣
@Metzli7 ай бұрын
I'm confused on the red/ginger fur thing, but it might be the translation that didn't translate well, but it seemed to me you said only females can be ginger because the red colour is in the X chromosome? That confuses me because I have 2 male ginger cats xD
@Virumyu7 ай бұрын
@@Metzli AfaIk, it’s the opposite, only male cats can be mono ginger. Probably Google Translate misphrasing
@OddSauce7 ай бұрын
Woah I'm early, I just got done watching the spaniel video too, finally we're gonna get some answers...
@harveyhaslostit7 ай бұрын
I'm actually pretty glad the modified coat can be inherited, so they can't pass down ugly coats, but my modified ones lol. I'm just diappointed that the eye colour can't be directly changed, although there are workarounds via the breed saving. Useful if you want your kittens or pups to have heterochromia Pet breeding is one of my favourite things in SIms 2 right now, especially with the additional coat patterns and the other KittenintheWindow mods, I really love seeing buried layers expressed on my pets offspring. Another thing I realized with my pets (which is probably purely coincidental, but it's happened a lot so far) is that usually when having three kittens or pups, two of them are exact copied of one another, while the third is the odd one out. Since it wasn't mentioned in the video I'm guessing it's nothing, but I find it a little odd it happened so often in my game when I too have hundreds of different layers on both parents and two of the children happen to inherit the exact same, including eye colour, while the third sibling tends to look completely different Also, the premade dog breeds are awful and unrealistic and I'm currently remaking them to look like their real-life counterparts and guess what? They all just look way cuter and not the same anymore (seriously the default dog snout especially is giving me nightmares and I hate that it's just copy and paste applied to almost all breeds) I've actually considered uploading them to MTS, because they turned out really well despite the frankly limited sliders (which are even more limited on cats ;-;)
@apriltini4 ай бұрын
Yes, try uploading them on MTS. Personally I'd love to find a few different variations of tortoiseshell cats.
@rvsbhrt7 ай бұрын
господи как я люблю твои видео по генетике ура спасибо за видел marticore
@dmitriyshepher24937 ай бұрын
пойдем гамать в симс 2?
@rvsbhrt7 ай бұрын
пошли@@dmitriyshepher2493
@ember93617 ай бұрын
man i love the balloon dog so much lmao
@A1exBOfficial7 ай бұрын
I tried so much breeding to get brightly coloured kittens and puppies and nearly always ended up with white or brown xD I think I got a litter of light pink ones once, but then got bored with the time in that household it took to breed the pets (without cheats/mods 'cause I had a slow computer when CC was on). I wasn't very good at the layering aspect of pet genetics.
@foranzo15827 ай бұрын
I looooove the Shrek ref when saying they have layers 🧅
@twojstary18397 ай бұрын
YIPPPEEE NEW MARTICORE VIDEO
@AaronL09057 ай бұрын
I love Balloon dog so much sims 2 genetics working weird are my favorite thing
@whatever63777 ай бұрын
I wonder why dogs have a wider range of eye colors than cats 🤔 It's the other way around in real life
@Marticore7 ай бұрын
Right? Weird
@MusicLiveOn6 ай бұрын
Does anyone know if the witches' familiars have genetics? I used the puppy creator to make a dog, and the evil witch familiar was available as a parent option, so chose it. The puppy was (I think) just like the other pet parent, so I don't know if there's no genetics to pass down, or if it was just bad luck.
@boltcore._.7 ай бұрын
At this point i don t even bother to understand genetics in the sims 2. It s way beyond my brain and my brain is fried at this point. It s funny how the first born syndrome is also here but i think that this time around this is unfixable compared to the sims one
@Marticore7 ай бұрын
Anything can impact the sequence, so if you've had a human baby and then a pet baby, the sequence will be pushed for the pets
@boltcore._.7 ай бұрын
I- Okay i give up 😭 I never thought a 2004 game would be so complex
@sanneoi632326 күн бұрын
Idk about animals but heterochromia in humans is a dominant gene, I would know; I have it myself. It seems far more common in cats than humans though. There is more than one type of heterochromia and not all are as noticeable as the type I have which is complete heterochromia. It is a shame that pet genetics don't really mix that much, would be cool to mix different breeds and register their offspring as new breeds cause registering breeds is a thing in the game.
@casualdelulu7 ай бұрын
I LOVE YOUR CONTENT
@stonka-rh6vz7 ай бұрын
I needed this video 😺🐶 Thanks 😘
@ericdanielski48027 ай бұрын
Nice video.
@gise2302077 ай бұрын
I'd like a mod to customize ears or tails , 😫, is it to much? like not genetically , just like a sims 'plastic surgery'.. kind of. Some of my born in game pets don't have the ears I want
@Metzli7 ай бұрын
It always irritated me that when mixing a big and small dog, you get a clone of the mum! Like, why? I like to play mad scientist and mix breeds, I want to see different things coming out, not a literal clone! xD
@theonlylavaster29317 ай бұрын
I have ways thought that at least cats look pregnant. Might be wrong
@Marticore7 ай бұрын
I used to think Sims got bigger bellies when it's twins which is totally not a thing. We can make ourselves believe a range of things 😅