The Sims 4: realistic life simulator Also the Sims 4: toilet paper more expensive than a whole chair.

are we really surprised

its so weird, i find it harder to make money with my sims in a career than i do with them doing free-lance/hobbies. which kinda sucks

Honestly, rags to riches isn't a challenge anymore. All you have to do is sell some collectables and do nectar non-stop

This is why I have no problem cheating money for a decent home or if the bills are way more expensive than they should be. It seems with the newer packs they are making the items cheaper which is great, but compare the new items to base game and it's unbelievable how expensive the base game items are.

for the acting career, there's a mod that increases the pay depending on your celebrity level and also has residuals

Alternative title "Everything in The Sims 4 is broken and needs fixing"

The real rags-to-riches mystery is how do people afford all these expansions to make all these choices.

Funny how easy it is to get money but Sims don't actually need much to live

I just wish there were more furnishings that didn't have such a low comfort count. There are so many chairs, beds, sofas etc., but Sims complain about how uncomfortable they are.

You are so right about Rags To Riches. I have to make it harder for myself using the skills rules on Sims Community, and I refuse to paint to make money because it's just too easy.

Sims 3 had me struggling for 3 generations until I got it right ✨

Ea: let's make a little toy more expensive than a lamp!

In the Sims 3 I used a genie to get me some money and I’m still struggling to make ends meet.

The door frame alone being more expensive than a door frame with a door included is the funniest thing I've seen today

I got so upset when I got 5000 (!!!!) simoleons for completing,,,,, the tuTORIAL in the Sims4... Meanwhile in the Sims3 my sims would STARVE if child me made the wrong monetary decisions, which added fun challenge and forced you to learn... as games should.

I’m recovering from brain surgery and am just watching every single video you have uploaded 😂 don’t stop!

I don't understand this NEED for sims to get into debt if they want an university education. I know y'all live in countries where unis are ridicously expensive, but that doesn't have to be the case. I live in a european country where uni is free of charge (if you manage to get your degree in the set time frame - and if you need longer you have to pay around 400€ / semester). So the prices in the sims were actually pretty accurate to me - especially with the many scholarships.

Making and selling finely aged nectar has gotten me over 3 million simoleons with the new expansion pack

I think EA designed it that way because it is not an open world. Everything has to happen on or around your lot, which cuts down on the challenge, but it makes it easier to stay on your lot.

I recently used the SNBank and Real Estate mod for the first time and they’re great but it is easy to take advantage of the real estate mod. It gives you a list of lots for sale, but there’s also a list of all the residential lots and you aren’t restricted to ones that are for sale. I showed up at a sim’s house that they didn’t want to sell and decided I wanted to buy. I paid out for a good relator and the game gave them a bad one, so I bought a house that wasn’t for sale for $80k less than it was worth.

if you don't mind waiting a week, nectar making is absolutely bonkers for cash. Once the first batch ages to finely aged you are rolling in it lol.

I'm genuinely going to try some of the SNBank stuff. I see Kate Emerald did some builds for them, I didn't even know. I love her work. Thanks for the suggestion!

I personally have no desire for my sims to be in college debt

I’ve quickly gotten addicted to your channel and content. ❤

I think it'd be a cool video to see you go through the packs and revise them...including the prices!

Also there is one(i think i found even more but i remember this one)'exploit' with spellcasters. So basically there are these 2 spells one sets objects on fire and the other one repairs broken objects. You can set your furniture on fire get money as a compensation and then just repair it. I haven't played in a while but i think there is also a copy spell do yeah you can imagine what it does with money

Carl’s Sims has a good economy mod that increases your bills, lowers income, and basically makes everything you spend money on cost twice as much. The game is borderline unplayable without it IMO.

EA need to be hiring these modders

Rags2riches in Sims1 took me 2 REAL weeks playing just to make a BASIC box house. I stopped after that. Sims2 took a week at least. There were of course more options like gardening or digging up community lots for fun with the "dig here" option. I liked being a public menace.😂 Sims3 still has its challenges, but the most fun options. - I tried collecting things in one challenge. - Catching, taming, breeding & selling wild horses Then my favourite: FISHING!!!🇦🇺 The Aussie in me just loves fishing and in Sims3 my sim caught a "tragic clownfish"🤣 You can use your lifetime reward points to buy a trait so you can see on your town screen that you need eg. Plants you can pick, minerals, gems, nanites and just travel around town to those exact places getting what you need and sell them super quick.

As someone who has played with the same family for 43 generations (who has accumulated about 3.5 million Simoleons in that time) its not hard to make money.

I just saw the mod you recommand and oh my god ! this will change my gameplay a lot, thanks you so much !

These types of videos where satch recommends certain, relatively niche mods are honestly SO useful bc yes there's a lot of mods and they're easy to look up but having someone actually review and recommend certains ones is so so useful. And honestly mods are so diverse and specific sometimes that i would never think to even look them up myself so mentioning these ideas like the bank account system is very informative. Truly loved the video.

Rags to riches in TS3 was so dope though, the open works going to the gym to shower, the inappropriate but in a good way lifetime reward to sleep and eat at others houses. TS3 the goat forever

To me it seems like some of the mods are recreating the worst parts of our neoliberal societies, which, fair enough, is more realistic, but on the other hand, maybe not aspirational? For example university tuition costs… also they aren’t as expensive as they are in the UK and US everywhere. Another thing I would be interested in is modders implementing different economic systems into their mods.

Also Carl's Gameplay Overhaul. Increases bills, reduces all kinds of income, makes job progression harder unless you invest heavily in logic and charisma, makes relationships harder unless you invest heavily in charisma, makes negative moodlets last longer (especially those relating to death), and rebalances gardening and fishing. Pretty much the first mod I install after a wipe.

Thanks Satch this makes it a bit more challenging

Satch, could you test Carl's mod for the retail stores in Get to work? I heard you talk about how the retail system is a mess so I thought maybe you can make a review of it? I'd love to hear your thoughts on it

Is there a mod, that you are unable to sell stuff from the inventory? This would make it even more challenging if you needed to sell stuff at a pawnshop or something.

The painting money is just absurd

I cant belive How u only have 160k subscribers, ur content is way better than all of the crap out there

Now, now. In fairness, the bog roll might cost S50 BUT it lasts for generations! I'd pay a good deal more for an infinite bog roll.

Barbie doll [piece of plastic] is more expensive than an electric cattle. Nothig will ever be more broken than toys prices in real life.

That banking one is exactly what I've wanted EA to add to the game for years, it almost makes me consider using mods again. If mods weren't a total PITA for sims 4.

The I'm not wearing lipstick comment in the description is hilarious! LOOOL!

i just hate the fact that the items and their prices doesn't make any sense ! It's driving me crazy everytime... especially when i want to make a cheap starting home with "bad" looking objects but they're so much more expensive than other objects that look better, i would love for them to fix that

This is not a piece of paper roll, its THE piece of ENDLESS paper roll! I would gladly pay 50 or twice that for endless toilet paper 😁

They haven't considered any prices for some packs. Like all the build items in seasons are §50. Looks like the just added them all with the same price and thought "we'll go in and balance that later" but then they never did.

There actually IS a way to modify the prices of these objects. It's true though that I haven't found any modder that does this, besides a few small catalog items. For items that Satch mentioned, you could make your own mod if you want the price of an object to be exactly how you want it. Download the sims 4 studio, select override for objects in the game, and you can change the price, then hit save. Make sure that the file you created is in your mods folder (or organized within a folder of your mods folder). I personally modifid all of the prices of the fridges to cost 100 simoleons more, and made the eco friendly fridges from Cottage living costs at least 1200 because they're actually that high quality that it's crazy how they used to cost like 900. I also reorganized a lot of the sinks based on quality. Even though the DIY sink looks bad, it actually is really good quality, so compromised and slapped it somewhere in the middle of not super cheap, but not as expensive as the other good sinks. I modified all of the seed packets. All of the starter ones are 5 simoleons and the rest are either 10, 15, or 25 instead of 100, 200, and 1k... Reorganized some chairs and light fixtures based on the price I think that seems more reasonable. For example the light bulb should be MUCH more cheaper and I honestly think that it's being sold for such a high price is because MercuCorp says it's Eco-friendly. So I took away some of its cost and plumped up the price of a lot of chandeliers because chandeliers irl are expensive as hell. Especially when it's implied in the Sims 4 that the candle chandeliers are real candles, meaning they don't use electricity, but apparently need zero maintenance. I also didn't think a hay bale should be more expensive that a lawn chair, and that a cheap looking folding chair should be more expensive than a decent and normal looking dining chair. I also modified all of the other objects mentioned in this video. The only thing that wouldn't work for me was the Pampass grass, though. It's weird. It's as if EA said "No. Absolutely not. This lovely grass is going to be 30 simoleons and that's final. Now go by your expensive superhero toy".

personally the easy money hacks don’t bother me as motherlode already exists so you already have to personally decide how easy you want the game to be

Agreed that there is no rhyme nor reason to costs and career money making. However, I tailor my gameplay to mitigate. For example, I don’t allow selling by build & buy or inventory. You have to use Plopsy, tables or by having to build a retail outlet. It solves a lot of earning so much so quickly.

I was using MCCC to modify the bills because the bills were so low they would barely make a dent in my sims household funds. With the mod her lot 30x20, two story home, was almost 6k a week for bills which her career is level 10 science career (GTW) so while still a huge chunk for her its more realistic for me to feel dread when bills come. I am downloading all of SimREalists mods right now though because the systems broken and i am putting a bandaid on it.

I would love for a life-simulator to have a soft survival mode kind of gameplay, within the safe parameters of not worrying about being killed or whatnot. Maybe you start off with a tent or something and you need to your cabin or save money and purchase a cottage kit home. Most survival games now and if not all have that killing factor or high danger factor which I don't want the added anxiety haha or they don't have the openness of the sims.

I miss selling windows and wallpapers to pay the bills from 1,2 and 3

Ooooh SNB and Bills! I have that mod and it's definitely my favorite mod 😃

I’ve been only playing rags to riches where I have them forage, garden or fish for food. It becomes so easy after awhile especially with gardening! I wish it was like that in real life 😅

Most of the time my Sims have a job, it's to complete some aspiration, or as a challenge to myself to have a Sim max out as many jobs as possible. Had one max out 12 jobs. ALL of my Sims end up being multi millionaires. Writer aspiration ? §§§§§ Painter aspiration ? §§§§§ Knitting aspiration ? §§ Do gardening ? §§§§§§§§§§§§§§§§

Make it make sense!

can u review the mortem mod? it's made by the same creator as the snbank mod and it's such a cool revamp of death and adding funerals and such it's so good

I’m one of those that don’t like to cheat money. If my sim makes something I sell it on Plopsy. I utilize the selling table a lot an for items I can’t sell on the selling table, I open a retail store. I do play legacy style gameplay. The only thing that I sell directly to collectors are the autograph photos I get from famous sims. Other than that, items cannot be sold directly out of the inventory or household inventory. Also, my sims that drop out of high school cannot get specific jobs. And I utilize the odd jobs a lot for them.

tax is insane , my solo sim pays 3800+ simolians in tax . it is small lot in first map . i just over time bought items i needed for skilling up . i don't understand how tax is calculated . also some jobs earn way more than they should while others so little you better off just growing and selling crops/flowers .

THIS! I want a challenge. Rags to riches. As soon as you make enough (so after like an hour of playing), the game becomes easy af.

"Beautiful Door" 😅

satch u need to do the comparion game thing but with sommone who dosn't play, that would be halarious 😂😂😂

My complaint with job promotions is that in the earlier versions you had to meet certain criteria like 5 friends, 4 Cooking, etc. In S4, while they do have the skill criteria and the daily task, you can still get promoted without fulfilling these. Like what's the point??

In the sims 3, the rag to riches rules have it where you start with 1700 if I remember correctly? It's a small amount of money, yes, but otherwise you'd have to literally play for weeks before breaking a thousand lmao

Gardening is where the money's at😏

When cottage living came out I decided to play as typical farmer without career. I brought as much types plants as I could from market, orders and seeds. I also put them in big greenhouse and after a few days, my Sims got 2 - 5 thousands daily income just from those plants and like 4 hours of work to take care of them. Also it basically speedruned gardening skill.

I never thought someone would make a video about this! I thought there are only few simmers who thought the Sims 4 economy is ridiculous 😭 I really thought being bothered by this is being nitpicky I'm glad there's actually a lot of simmers who feel the same. I've never downloaded mods before but those are the ones I'd definitely consider. Thanks Satch!

ngl i had the same amount of easiness in the sims 3... season expansion pack... the flowers. I had to download a mod that makes them worthless!

The beat up recliner from the basement treasures kit being one of the most expensive chairs 💀 Building off that many of the stresses items that have come from packs other than city living are priced more expensive than their nicer counterparts really throwing off the natural visual feel of a rags to riches … The nectar making is just OP AF I don’t even bother with selling them to that dude anymore because just selling them in inventory when they are finely aged will set your sim up for their sim life in one batch it’s ridiculous 3:54 jobs are basically hobbies for my sims…

Can you do a video about all those mod websites that are supposed to be good for content?

You're saving me so much with this mod showcase so !!!!thank so much seriously!!!!

I just rediscovered the sims 3 this weekend and I can’t stop playing. Someone help me. 😆

First sims lesson for me? Working is for suckers!

Base game items are so expensive for no reason, it hard sometimes doing a base game starter home, it looks so empty and sad 🤣🤣

That is kinda funny. Most likely different people makes the price. When I have my sims get a job I strongly focus on that. I have a hand full of sims that don't work and do things like dig for shells and collect stuff. I don't need the money to be realistic. For me that would take away a lot of the fun I have.

It may be an unpopular opinion, but I don't care for the challenge in the Sims. I would like to play with one sim and get through the aspirations without much fuss. That way I can build and be in CAS. It is said that someone would rather be in Build or CAS rather than playing the sims. I never did that in the Sims 3.

someone else said this, but $50 for infinite toilet paper is a steal

Chaotic suggestion, try Sims 3 for Wii 😗 I played on my bfs wii with a big household and it's actually kind of fun despite being laggy and ugly. I feel like the game play was different/refreshing and challenging. They have a trait on wii for a sim that changes the sims traits everyday. Why don't they have a fun game play tool like that for PC? That's such a more active choice for a traditionally "neurotic" sim.

When I saw the two windows and you asked why the smaller one was more expensive, I immediately said aloud “I bet it’s got double glazing” and my bf looked at me from across the room like wtf 😂 also another thing I think is extremely broken in the sims 4’s economy is lot taxes. I use mccc to cheat down bills because lot taxes are so incredibly ridiculous and broken. if you know of a mod that specifically alters lot taxes but no other bills please let me know because I haven’t been able to find one

just the sims 4 being the sims 4

It would be so easy for EA to simply change the prices of items and the money you get for selling.

I hate that in the sims 4 your mortgage goes up when you buy more stuff for the house that is so not realistic with mortgage 😢

me to the government 0:25

I did a rags to riches and I haven’t made my sim work a day and she has made a million dollars by selling plants and taking selfies. N just running around digging the dirt spots.

I really hate that they've made doors and windows so cheap

I miss In the sims 3 when u would only get a choice of a few jobs and it would change everytime mostly

somewhat unrelated but i started a legacy challenge and my first sim won the lottery lol no time for struggles I guess

I think they should redo prices, earnings, crafting quantities and also even time thing because it just doesn't make sense at all... its driving me nuts. I feel like they should do math a bit and fix it. And it would be great opportunity to add bulk crafting if you are a business owner.

have you had any luck able to play sims 4? Its still down on steam and EA

The base free to play game items being more expensive than the additional paid DLC prices is actually on par with the pay to win mentality of EA.

i have a mod to make the acting career payments like 50k a gig

My sim gets upwards of 30,000 simoleons every week from “investments” and I have no idea what she’s invested in and when that started. But there’s no way to stop it so she’s just constantly making bulk. Funnily, in sims 3, having upwards of 30 grand is considered being “filthy rich” 🤣

i think that toilet paper roll is so expensive because it's kinda endless if we gonna pretend that sims actually use it. you but it once, you have it forever

Loans (including mortgages mod) to have consequences & some medical should cost, having a baby at the hospital.

The whole thing with Sims is that you create a Sim and the first thing you do is get a job. In Sims 4 you don't even need to do that

Yeah the economy system makes no sense at all. Lol Although back when I played the sims 3, I played the 100 baby challenge a lot (I would never complete it though lol) and my sim would easily make money by either painting, writing books or by just selling gems she found around the map. The sims 4 just provides more ways to make money without getting a job. Also one thing the sims 4 has that the sims 3 doesnt is the retail system/ selling tables and art stands. If you wanted to make selling art harder, rather than selling it to a collector or to your inventory, only sell art using the stand. There were some days my sim would be standing for hours and sell one painting and other days she would sell a few. I'm also going to have her open a clothing/boutique store but shes saving up to purchase the lot/building rather than using cheats to buy it straight away. She also has an infant and needs to complete the serial romantic aspiration. (So she cant spend all her time on making art/money) Part of what makes it easy is the economy but I also think you could make it harder by having your sims make friends, have lovers, have family, and other goals besides making money and by not selling your sims products directly.

Home decorating go to the clients house send them away go into build mode take everything into your inventory go home and sell everything I’m a poor peasant console player

Ahh, but you see, it's not one piece of toilet roll, it's an endless supply of toilet roll Which actually works out pretty good in the long run