“Fascinating Bureaucracy”

good one LOL

Absolutely! Most of these accidents were preventable too.

I’ve heard it said before that FAA regulations are often written in blood.

Heard the same about working on a construction site. Every single rule that exists is there because someone was killed or horribly maimed

Sadly that's how the world works. Good doesnt win all the time.

@@nyotamwuaji6484 Yeah, but I don't have to be happy about it.

good doesn’t win the majority of the time*

Unfortunately it comes down to who has money.

This one was so so much worse. The people who should have prevented it faced no consequences. The troubled kid with a history of arson believed to start the fire was completely covered up and hidden from the public by the authorities. The Freaking Chairman of the Board of the NFPA, the National Fire Protection Association, the group that creates the fire safety standards, was hired as an expert witness by Six Flags to give incredibly controversial and rather fraudulent testimony that "Sprinklers Would have made no measurable difference in the outcome of this fire nor prevented loss of life". This very nearly shattered the NFPA as a viable safety organization. It would not be until years later that the victims families would discover that yes the authorities did in fact know exactly who the mysterious boy with the lighter in the Painters Cap and Motley Crew t shirt was, but opted to not even interview him. Everything, everyone involved in this was dirty and complicit from top to bottom. And nobody suffered any lasting consequences for the deaths of those kids. And perhaps the saddest thing was even those who faced trial and lawsuit. The Great Adventure Operators and Officers were probably less culpable than the local officials who failed to enforce proper fire code standards. And who covered up any and all local government involvement in either the inspections, the enforcement, or their knowledge of and failed supervision of the kid with the lighter. (according to at least one long retired Arson investigator I once spoke with, the Arson detectives knew exactly who the kid was from day 2. But were barred from even talking to him by the DA's office. Of course they knew him. He had already lit three f'ing schools on FIRE! But he was 14, and under the Juvenile System. And thus sealed.)

Yeah, it's the worst because they're completely preventable. Sure freak accidents can happen but at least 90% of these types are because of some business wanting to cut corners and save a buck while fully aware they're not doing the right thing. Sick

Ain't capitalism great😒

@@lisae789 In the grand scheme of things yeah it is. Accidents within the Soviet Union and CCP aren't much better, people in those nations were seen largely as a resources. The problem with fairly young people such as yourself is that you're naive to the world around you, often with little life experience.

@SingleParty USA I dunno what socialist nation would you consider of benefit to the general population? Cuba? Venezuela? Mainland China? I'm all open to ideas here. The truth is the very fact you're communicating with me is thanks to capitalism, you likely live a comfortable lifestyle with access to high speed Internet, a smart phone etc thanks to capitalism. It worries me how dense alot of people are to the systems benefits. 80 years ago when much of the world eeked a living on family farms peoples life expectancy was incredibly low, thanks to the advention of capitalism globally most societies are living far better lives because of it. The US went from being a fairly nothing ex-colonial nation to a world super power in little over a hundred years.

@@B-26354 Poster (SingleParty USA) got a point, its about placing things on a grayscale. I don't make the argument that socialism is particular great witch its obvious not but there is some ideas about it that is pretty good. Most things in life is not either 100% bad or 100% good. Positive things about socialism is for example roads and other big public things that is made for service of the population and businesses - a negative thing is it hampers invention, development, personal responsibility and ever increase taxes. Positive things about capitalism is it promotes and speed up invention, some positive thing about competitiveness (but not as much as the people tend to believe, the competition in the capitalism is always trying to achieve total market-dominance and that is the end of any competition eg Amazon, big-tech that in many ways today acts like a monopoly despite it being spread over a couple of different companies). Negative things about capitalism is that it promotes migration of people, it dumps salaries and increase unemployment rate because of aforementioned migration but also thanks to AI and automation. This constant drive for more and higher profit and the pursuit of this false idea of an infinitive growth of the economy is a significant negative effect of capitalism. Also, some fields in the 'free market' and the capitalistic system can't - for obvious reasons - don't/cant really work. Example of these fields is big-pharma and MIC (Military Industrial Complex). Both fields have an goal that goes polar opposite against what would be considered 'good' and here we need to define 'good for who?'. For MIC they want to sell weapon and have government (taxpayers) to make their own population use them and get killed and kill others so they can make money. For Big-Pharma they make money (maximizing profit-margins) by NOT cure people but only by symptom-control. There is no incentive for Big-Pharma to cure anyone at any point on the contrary, they will make more money if people is getting sick.

Isn’t that everywhere though?

@@JimAllen-Persona exactly what I was going to say. What a load of nonsense

@@brandonbartz3718 jersey just sucks

“The Midwest is full of retards” - Toby Keith

@@brandonbartz3718 lol you must not know who bob dylan is bc all he spoke was nonsense, hell of a musician though

@Natasha He is guilty - as the park and the agencies that turned a blind eye. Ate the very least he should have raised the alarm, not gone away quietly. I will not complain about the lighter - everybody did it, myself included. Torchlights on a mobile are a great thing! But he should have raised the alarm. Didn't even had to own it: just start screaming "fire", and warn whoever passed by him on the way out.

Hate to be that guy but mobile phones have caused just as many car accidents.

@UpNorth ahh ye beat me to it!

@UpNorth Contenders for the Darwin award. Anyone with half a human brain should know to always focus on the road while driving

Same. Also the use of candles in a blackout. Every house had at least a pack of candles ready in case of blackout, and we would keep them there for hours.

Sadly true.... but there's a lot of people who won't forget..... some even scarred from this event. When my friend visited the park she said that there were was a bunch of people saying prayers or were silent as a remembrance for the 8 that died. Cyborg sits close to where The Haunted Castle entrance use to be..... nothing is on the actual site where the trailers use to sit.

@@ZacBrzuchalski Good to know. Thank you.

The kids' high school has a plaque to memorialize them.

I kind of understand that. Airlines are unlikely to have memorials near the departure gates in airports. Theme parks have a similar approach.

Dead is dead, they won't know the difference

You might not have been born if your dad had studied harder!

Lies

Sounds like my family. My great grandmother was supposed to be on the titanic, lol.

And so they said, things are meant to be for a reason..... 🙏🕯

@don vito she’s not lying. The group of friends were on their senior trip with Franklin K Lane high school. A close friend of my mom’s was dating one of the boys at the time and my mom and her friend were supposed to go with them. But since they were also seniors at Grover Cleveland and their senior trip was also to six flags the following week they decided not to go. That being said after this happened they cancelled all school trips to six flags, idk how many years it took until schools started going again.

come to germany..we have TÜV..they look at every.single.screw.and.scratch to make sure nothing happens. :D

Can’t pump your own gas there but no need for fire alarms in highly flammable buildings

Yeah thats a good thing to live by new jersy is a.mess

Stupid GP, it's totally safe, there are way more regulations now and attractions are inspected daily. You are more likely to die driving to the park

@@warcriminal4183 good point. The way people in Jersey drive, I am more likely to die driving to the park.

Or if they want it that dark people in it should be provided with none flammable lights, i.e. torches

@Michala *Torches? Are you from GB? Because if you're not and you say torches, a torch would be quite worse than a lighter. I say that, because in the US, a torch means an open flame on the end of a long stick. We refer to what those in GB call a torch, as a flashlight. Sorry if I didn't make sense!*

Ppl. can b & act like fools at times! Some unthinking person (fool) thought, "Duhhh, can't see - ha! I know! I'll take this lighter outta my picket and ... WHOOSH!!"😁😜😵😳

@@Griselda_Puppy Yes, they mean a flashlight obviously 😂

@@Griselda_Puppy she said NON flammable lights, ie torches

How would that have changed anything

@@scottcook2568 I believe Amy (above) meant, a set of inexpensive fire (smoke) alarms may have brought the fact that there was a dangerous fire to the attention of the guests or the park officials a couple minutes sooner, allowing the guests to escape, and the park officials to gain control over the fire while it was small with a simple fire extinguisher, or the Fire Dept. got there a couple minutes sooner, that also could have meant the difference in a life or two. Ten smoke alarms and ten fire extinguishers would have cost maybe $200 - divide that by the 8 lives lost = $25 a life. Yeah, I think each of those kids are worth $25. Don't you? I think each of them are worth 25 million - and if the same fire happened today, the park may have to pay each family that amount each, considering their negligence! Edit: After writing this post, and thinking about those kids dying in the fire, it encouraged me to finally put up a set of fire alarms I bought myself almost 2 years ago that had been collecting dust, to replace defective ones - and putting good (expensive Duracell) batteries in existing ones. (I live alone and own my house so it was all my responsibility.) I encourage you to do the same, especially if someone else's life is your responsibility!

@@scottcook2568 I guess there is stupid questions.

right?! or a sprinkler system! sprinklers save lives!

In 1984?

Did you notice that; there are states like Tennessee, Alabama, Mississippi, Arkansas, Louisiana, Florida, Georgia, Texas, North, and South Carolina have private Christian amusement parks? 🇬🇪 🤔 😳

@@georgeshelton6281 Literally nobody asked

@@georgeshelton6281 like which

@@okchun That's the California 6 Flags amusement park.

Yes my house’s fire alarm went off even by too much dry ice. Which means its doing its job, even if slightly annoying (We ended up turning the fog machine off in that area to prevent it)

I’m sorry about your friend, may she be in peace and bliss until you meet again ❤

I remember Tina because she went to Open bible Baptist Church in Williamstown Nj I went there too . it was a sad day on Sunday when Pastor Ridell or Pastor Morre Mentioned it in Church . But you Know she is Resting in Gods arms and In Heaven.

I'm glad Tina had a friend like you to keep her memory alive. It's so senseless when kids have to pay for the mistakes of others (ie no sprinkler systems etc) by losing their lives. 😥

I’m sorry for your lost.

Sorry for your lost

Agreed. From what we have seen from his previous videos on parks that have had fatalities. They are respectful enough to have a memorial.

Ya, I hate that too. Quickly back to the business. Nothing happened and no one had to care.

@@lllexxlll3600 I’m guessing they didn’t have to sell or close down?

Bad for business, I agree with you but I can see why they would rather time bury this just like the cyclone in Brooklyn. Another ride I have been on a dozen times but I can see why so many people have died or fallen out, all it has is a small bar by your knees and people stand up like morons and go handless for the big drop aka kill themselves. Rides need to be respected by the people enjoying them and the workers.

They had one in the botanical gardens, but when they removed those for more ride space, they removed the memorial. That’s worse than not having one in the first place.

They say the same for traffic flow changes as well.

Uuuh, I think you're talking about the Triangle Shirtwaist (Blouse) fire.

I see these comments on every single one of these videos talking about something written in blood....come on already. Its getting tired by now.

@@REXXSEVEN I completely understand. I guess it's a trendy like thing.

Please stop repeating yourself.

Belated Condolences to you. Very sorry.

RIP. My best friend’s grandma lives directly across the street from that school.

Rest in peace to your friends.

My mom went to Franklin k lane. She decided not to go that day. she told me the day of the funerals she walked out of school with everyone else to attend and pay respects

Rest In Peace to them. My mom went to Cleveland but her friend was dating one of guys at the time and they were thinking about going with them on the trip but since Cleveland was going the following week they decided to skip it.I couldn’t imagine losing someone in such a terrible way at that age. I hope you continue to remember them and heal.

or he burnt

Or he was one of the 8 friends who died. Either way it was a mistake. Sadly mistakes can be fatal 😥

@@lisalee2885 If the comments I'm seeing about a pyromaniac matching the description of the kid with the lighter and with a history of setting school walls on fire being in that attraction at the time of the fire are correct, it was no mistake.

Would not be surprised if the boy who said he saw a boy using a lighter was probably the boy with the lighter and just afraid to get into trouble, even when the investigators said the person was not to blame

@@specteratthefeast9667 Not to blame? Shouldn't have been liquid gasoline on the walls, no. Putting a lighter up against it? You bet that's his fault.

The fire happened because some people lighted the castle on fire

I can't imagine how scared they must have been. It truly is awful.

@@staringcorgi6475 but the fire spread and killed because of how badly it was built and how poorly maintained it was.

@@jaybee4118 it made it worse

@@staringcorgi6475 yes, obviously, that’s my point.

Relatable

i respect you sir

Too funny, making your funeral into an episode of Fascinating Horror. Twisted or funny for the attendees?

Lmao

*_Right?! I do as well!_*

Spooky world was shut down in 1998 because it was unsafe if it had a sprinkler system it would of in operation this day at the Berlin mass location

That was 1977 or 78 in Illinois, anyway. This was after that. But these greedy, cheap scam artists used the 7 year old "temporary structure" bull to get out of installing them.

Not a damn thing for them. They call it a "temp structure" for 7 years and so can ignore ALL fire codes...Brilliant. They didn't pay out ANYTHING as I heard it.

@@windsofmarchjourneyperrytr2823 Didn’t you listen to the video? He explained they settled 7 of the 8 cases for $2.5 million each. If you can prove otherwise, post a link.

The attraction was actually supposed to be there for just one year. But it was so popular they kept it around until the fire, but still insisted it was a "temporary structure" because of the trailers. And fire officials let them get away with it.

@@Syclone0044 No, the park was not found at all responsible. It was the city/township that had to pay.

@@annerison Good, since they let the amusement park get away with doing what they did.

"Temporary" - is exactly why 6 Flags WAS at fault. What kind of crappy lawyers failed to argue that?

Yup!! My old highschool. Then when they finally got around to building, they knocked everything down and made buildings that look like prison. Lol So those temporary classrooms were temp until the whole school could be renovated. 🤦🏻‍♀️

Yes fr! My entire 4 yrs of hs were spent in dusty old trailers that were so mouldy that both teachers and kids got sick!

the highschool i graduated from was pretty big, it had three floors but still had about 10/15 classrooms outside of the building made out of trailer type metal structures. kinda funny how we had interactive blackboards in every single classroom but not enough space for all the students...

Ain't that the truth.

Just as well the French haven't been lax about safety-standards over the years with the Eiffel Tower, after all, it's the world's oldest temporary structure!

It's understandable that most of the tragedies; that take place at are, the Disneyland amusement parks. Since Disneyland is the most popular place ever; another thing is that, it's a public amusement park. Furthermore I also know this; it's very typical for a stone Atheist, to celebrate Halloween. Since Disneyland has, a haunted mansion ride.🎃 👻 🎃 ⚛ 🙄 😒 😑 😐 ⚛

@@georgeshelton6281 I knew obama wouldn't make it in the state championship. He had no reason to be there and his coach was utterly useless. And now they're pushing their own agenda. The BBC themself are in on it.

Make sure to smash that like button! Smh

Truth! A video's content alone should be reason enough to LIKE or SUBSCRIBE. We people, by human nature, generally do not like being told what to do. Prime example is how we react when a telemarketer selling windows calls right after sitting down to dinner. To me, it's an insult to my own intelligence when a stranger cold calls me and tells me I need what he's selling.....as if I am not smart enough to figure that out on my own? Don't call me....I'll call you, sir.

@@dshmechanic Did you notice that the first time I was taken to a, Christian amusement park was on the first day of 2014? Only my parents have always, chosen what's best for me. It's was also Duane G. Shelton, who has also chosen, what's best for me. Here's another thing about the L.A. Disneyland, this amusement park is the busiest. Especially when the, first day of the year arrives. I understand you that all public amusement parks, they're based on the freedom of religion. Such as be free to be, an Agnostic, a Jehovah Witness, a Hindu, or even a Catholic. Those are 3 examples, of which religion the person wants to be.

They could use the burned corpses for a new castle , it would be a huge gesture

@@tomdetemmerman431 it would also be a bit disrespectful

@@paulamccormack8036 It might be...

yeah, he probably likes his tee time at Trump's Bedminster NJ golf links

I'm worried about the kid with the lighter. I hope he neither totally brushed off his part in what happened, nor blamed and hated himself for it ...

@@mkervelegan Lives in your head rent free. God you are pathetic.

@@FiddlebirdBlue If he made it out. :(

@@FiddlebirdBlue The kid with the lighter was a known 14 year old pyromaniac who was already under County and Court supervision and in a special School Diversionary Program for lighting his 3 previous schools on fire. His “PLUS” (Personal Learning Under Supervision) program was on a bus trip to Great Adventure that day. He was observed playing obsessively with the lighter on the bus, both going to and returning from the park that day. His County Supervision did nothing about it. The Arson investigators were barred from even talking to him.

six flags acquired Great Adventure in 1977, this disaster happened in 1985

@@slurpee4203 Six Flags Great Adventure - people from the area still called it Great Adventure or GA. Some still do including me. We also call the beach “the beach”, not the shore.

@@iamj9127 my mom and grandma still call it Great Adventure too

@@iamj9127 people actually call the beach “the shore”??😭

Is it not Six Flags Great Adventure?

All getting to heaven @ the same time awsome😇

@xc s so what are you looking forward to after death?? Worry about yourself, Instead of doubting others beliefs.. I'd rather be wrong about heaven being real than wrong about it being fake.

@@kayla3618 I’m looking forward to being dead and if god is real then I’ll be looking forward to a eternity of pain just like what life is right now

@@sweetttarts or they just died and that’s it, lights out. There’s no proof of God, Heaven or any of that rubbish

The smoke would have killed them first.

there is a constant background music loop but think the volume is lower than it used to, so I don't find it distracting anymore. I do like the style of his videos.

I like the loop it adds to creepy

I know, I LOVE his voice and accent! It’s an eerie dichotomy of these horrifying stories being told in a soothing tone. 👍🏻

I love the consistency of this channel, I know exactly what to expect in the video and I enjoy that very much.

The music is a royalty-free piece called 'Glass Pond' and I agree that it really adds to the ambience of the videos.

Same ❤️ I love his theme music!

Oh whew. I'm not the only one!

I so agree!!

It reminds me of the music from the witch season of American Horror Story.

Yes the music is absolutely perfect!

They should have gone down for using a 7 years old "temporary structure" to avoid following any codes. Imo

"America"

@@pp3k3jamail Because it definitely never happens in any other country, right?

@@oblivionsa7973 I don't care about what happens in other countries 🤦🏿

That’s the human race for you. Never proactive, always reactive.

yep.

"(Safety) regulations are written in blood"

Like the old saying "Lock the barn door after the horse got out"

And then you get the political movement that proclaims these regulations "red tape" and "getting in the way of business" and gets rid of them if they gain power, and also prevent new ones from coming to be. To all be learnt through blood again.

bro i’m so sorry

@@chelseaeberhardt I don't think you understood OP's comment...

@@ao1778 bro I'm sorry

@@gangswagster bro I'm sorry 😥

@@ao1778 u better be bro

Unfortunately the quote "regulations are written in blood" is absolutely true

@@Crippler101 same old repeated comment every video.

I think it's human nature to think "this won't happen to me" until it does I'm sure that we all have done things that could have ended up in death but didn't and there arnt regulations against it untill one of us does die due to our actions some things like smoke detectors make sense to us now that have lived with them everywhere for so many years but in the 80's most people didn't find then necessary

That’s the way it was back in the day. Survival of the fittest. It was that way in amusement parks, job sites, racing of all types. When I look at old pictures of race cars and they didn’t have roll cages and for a while even safety belts it makes me cringe.

@@TheoneGodfather Well then, cringe no more.

Gases from burning foam, I don't imagine they lasted long.

And they were all so young, very sad.

Imagine the parents, rising kid for 18 years only for them to die because greedy executives want to save a few bucks

@@6yjjk I imagine those fumes definitely burned to inhale to begin with...

@@petir2008 Give me a break with this tired trope. “Greedy executives”. As if someone in a suit is personally there during construction, halting installation of a sprinkler system or something because of the cost. It’s like a drop in the bucket for the operating budget of a park this size. I guarantee no executive got a $10 Million bonus for skimping on fire hazards. They complied with the laws, besides.

Just remember it's very rare; for 6 flags theme park, ever to be having anything terrible happening. We however still just had; a 6 year old boy who; leaped over a fence, and was killed by the Batman ride.

This took place in California.

I don't want to remember dead people.

There's an ebook on this.

I call bs

Nah, he's just British. They all sound like that.

You can't tell anything about how he feels

isn't that the definition of government?

so, capitalists.

@@mustaffa1611 a government run by capitalists.

These events are always harder for me to hear about when the victims are so young

Right? And the ages being so young.

I think the fact that he talks about true stories makes it even more chilling.

I love that too!

It’s the background music that gets me

Yes!! Very Vincent Price à la Thriller

For me, it’s the subtle foreshadowing in the background information. Also, every time “a small fire began” is said, I know shit’s gonna go down.

Burnt plastic/foam is very acrid and black. Smells nothing like dry ice "smoke," which is acrid to me, tho. It's also white or grey. It isn't thick. Interestingly, if you ever really fry a speaker (like from unseen dampness) it's got a very NASTY smell. Burnt plastic and adhesive. Also, very distinct. Doesn't smell like anything else.

The worst

I know and I just hope that smoke inhalation got to them first and they passed out, so as not to feel the pain of being burnt alive :(

Oh gosh, I thought the same thing!

@@sarahhiggins6280 I was trying to figure out delicate way to put it but I kept thinking I hope it was over quick.

And if you look in the area they were in, they were right by the "coffin" scene. How scary and confusing for your last moments to be in such a place.

exactly. a phone light is way more effective anyway

A lot of people still smoke so they would still have at least a lighter with them. Smoking rates havent dropped THAT much. However even people who have lighters in their pockets still wouldnt be using them now as a source of light since as you said they have a phone with them. Not cause they dont have a lighter with them.

Yeah I work at a haunted house, can confirm I haven't seen anybody use a lighter as light, but I've been blinded by so many phone flashlights.

@@MrFuntzel Really smoking rates HAVE dropped considerably.

@@sassi214 Not to the degree that its a rarity for people to have lighters in their pockets. Just saying the reason people dont use lighters now as a light source isnt because of decreased smoking rates and therefore decreased lighters in their pockets, but mainly because lighters as a light source are absolute garbage compared to using a Phone as a lightsource, something everyone has.

That was a sad sad read. good suggestion en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stardust_fire kzfaq.info/get/bejne/rcmZrcufrruWnH0.html

God I’m from Ireland and I’d never heard about this before. How horrific.

@@starlight8554 I know a few people affected, an ex work colleague lost his best friend to it, he was there and escaped, but his pals didn't. Was pretty emotional hearing about it, but it was a big deal back in 81 for sure, a lot of people died under the tragic circumstances

Oh gosh, just skimmed the Wikipedia Absolutely awful Feels weird saying I'd like to see a video on it

Also, does remind me of the Station Nightclub fire :(

I think Ghost Ship should be right up front. Killed over 35, was it? Vastly overloaded electrical system.

@@windsofmarchjourneyperrytr2823 Overloaded electrical equipment and surrounded by flammable materials in a very enclosed space. A close internet friend of mine was an employee there and was interviewed about it. I would ask them about it for more info, but understandably they don't want to talk about it. I remember they posted about the fire on Facebook after it happened, forcing them to take a break from social media to deal with the trauma they endured

*Correction: Known Pyromaniac who came there that day on a field trip.

@Robin ah yes, IT ISN'T THE FAULT OF THE KNOWN PYROMAINIAC TEEN WHO KILLED 8 PEOPLE BECAUSE WHY NOT!

@@the4tierbridge Thw known pyromaniac?

@@DonPilon yes. It turns out they just let some kid who was in a group to make sure he didn't start fires or cause other trouble, who was obsessively playing with a lighter he brought with him on and off the bus, and went into the haunted castle go! Why!

@Robin ok. Can you overdose on Claritin?

I'd suggest finding a fire extinguisher first and know how to use one. A small fire you can get to can be easily suffocated by natural fibers. Such as a 100% cotton or wool jacket or something. Don't use nylon or synthetic. It burns like you wouldn't believe.

@@windsofmarchjourneyperrytr2823 I was taught at a fire training course that a fire extinguisher is useful for saving your life (and others), while you're all exiting the building. There's little glory in perishing in a fire with an empty extinguisher in your hands. Of course there are exceptions to the rule, a small fire in a trash can will probably be safe to extinguish, but only if you know how to operate the extinguisher. Powder or foam extinguishers are fine for that job, CO2 types not so much since you'll probably blast the contents into the room and suddenly are faced with multiple fire sources. Save yourself. Get out while calling emergency services and let the firefighters be the heroes.

There's no such thing as a "little" fire. Fires double in size every minute, and what started out tiny will quickly become a conflagration. If you see fire, GET OUT.

From "The Towering Inferno; Chief O'Hallorhan : You've gotta move all these people out of here. James Duncan : Aw, now, just how bad is it? Chief O'Hallorhan : It's a fire, mister, and all fires are bad.

@@andyjay729 I had a hard time with that premise and of course, the useless OJ as a real actor. They "didn't put in wiring conduct...?" Makes no sense.

There were some at Riverview in Chicago. Decapitations from standing up in the roller coaster. And one where the plane fell off the wire and dropped a couple in the Chicago River. Where they drowned, I'd think.

Everyone I know still calls it Great Adventure. I remember this happening not long after we moved to NJ. My parents thought it was unsafe and we didn’t go to GA for years.

@@timdougherty4773 It WAS unsafe. Probably still is. You should thank them

@@windsofmarchjourneyperrytr2823 it's completly safe more people die in a highway in a year than a amusment parks usually the deaths are in the single digits and when I went there this year it was completely safe and had a fun day nitro is my favorite ride when I went th

any time i hear people uttering the phrase "frivolous lawsuit" i think of shit like this and the old woman who was beat in the public eye for McDonald's business. corporations deserve to get reamed for every time they fuck up monumentally and so stupidly as they are seemingly designed to do

We watch so we can remember the tragedies, remember the victims. It is very sad, these folks were just going about their day, enjoying themselves at a theme park, shouldn't have ended the way it did.

They live on in you. You remember their stories, you teach others the lessons we learned from their lives.

Every tragic mistake we make as a species, whether we're the cause or the victim, is an opportunity to learn, grow, and do better next time. Today's modern fire suppression systems and the rules for implementing them were only made possible because of tragedies like this. I think humans are instinctively drawn to tragedy partially because we can learn from others' demise, and reduce the risk of it happening to ourselves.

@@MamaSymphonia Well said!

I agree hard to watch, but I think we are captured by it because we know how fragile our life is. Every little clip we see makes us think twice about some other adventure we may go on and think that’s not a smart thing to do!!

1) If he survived... 2) Unless he did it on purpose...

well, he may have committed suicide.

I’m not religious but he’s in hell, so he’s dealing with his own fire rn

Omg!!! That's terrible; I think I would be traumatized for the rest of my life if I saw that!!!

All of them were kids. Not one over age 17. All those absolutely broken parents who's kids didn't come home, and no memorial. It's honestly revolting on Six Flags part.

I haven’t been there in years, but I thought I remembered seeing a memory plaque on the site. Am I wrong?

@@dreadede There is not. There is one at the school some of the kids attended.

@@Laladust maybe I’m losing my mind in my old age (47), lol! I swear I thought one was there. I’m picturing it when you walk up to the round fountain and go to the right of fountain, on the right hand side was a small garden area with a post and a small bronze plaque. Maybe one was there and removed?? I tried googling, but found nothing.

Can’t believe an actual ride stands there now that’s crazy. I had wondered many years what became of that space

The school that got blown up in Bath, MI would also be a good story to tell.

yeah i forgot about the Bath school disaster, i think it was the worst mass murder-act of violence in U.S soil at that time after surpassing the Wall Street Bombing

@@juliusnepos6013 it's still the largest school massacre in US history

@@jmen8888 what??? How did I not know about this

coal slurry pond failure in WV about 10 years ago

Yes, brilliant way to avoid fire codes on their part.

Ohh no...box trucks❗ There was virtually no escape.

Same here, I went through it a couple of times and never thought of that.

Did you by any chance hear strange clicking noises while walking past the site?

right i can't even imagine how panicked and scared they must've felt while racing to get out with seemingly no exit in sight! 😭 just awful!

Nightmare situation.

And several emergency exits were difficult or impossible for patrons to access because tall fences were placed in front of them (employees used the fences as protection from rowdy guests and park management was tired of patrons casually using these exits to go in and out of the attraction).

I think it would actually be an attraction. Dark Tourism is a thing.

Yet you say nothing of the people that continue to go to these parks. Such as how Netflix would not get away with all their pedophile programming if people did not keep subscribing.

@@justtime6736 correct. Because I don’t agree with that. I don’t think there’s anything wrong with going to these parks, but I don’t agree with sweeping these mistakes under the rug and forgetting about them or pretending they didn’t happen. I don’t believe they should be shut down completely, but I do believe in safety and acknowledgement/correction of mistakes, especially those which caused the loss of life. People die in car accidents every day, do you believe we should all stop buying cars? Drinking alcohol?

That’s sad 😞

Don't give these people any more $$ rich greedy people definitely understand THAT.

Yeah, I grew up going to great adventure and I will never go to a haunted house like that for that reason. Horrible and sad.

Same thoughts I had.

Sadly, lessons are almost always learned in blood. Someone has to be killed or injured seriously before the problem is corrected. It's tragic really

Reminds me of how lucky I am to be alive and that it could end at any moment

But that’s kind of the point. Yes we’ve built safety regulations on graves. That’s horrifying, but it kind of is the way it has to be. The alternative is empowering government officials to randomly enact regulations on the basis of any idea they come up with. With no actual data or review. Down that path lies madness. And it already happens far far too often. Just look at many of the Federal, State and Local responses to Covid. And try and parse out which were based on data and underwent legit review. And which were based on a clueless person in authority acting to do something, anything, and because it made sense in his head and his head alone? Here’s a hint. Anytime they are imposing Curfews to fight a virus, it’s the later.

Good to have another NZ'er, with these facts, I never remember the actual #'s

Mt Erebus is really unique in that the crash happened in Antarctica. Investigation and recovery must have been a nightmare

The Mt Erebus crash has always fascinated me because it's the only airliner I know that's crashed in Antarctica. Survival of the initial crash would have been nearly impossible.

Don't forget the Wahine Ferry disaster.

I was a safety inspector and most of the violations I reported were deemed too expensive to fix and the same violations existed year in and year out.(not fire inspection).This is how the world seems to work.Tragedy= Sudden concerns about Safety.

@@lastofthe4horsemen279 - yeh because many people value money over human life.

At least there is now a nice memorial garden at the end of the Douglas promenade close to the site of the tragedy.

I was going to say the same. Not altogether different from this tragedy. Started accidentally by children and lax fire regulations leading to a absolute disaster.

Oddly, if you know the band Journey (Don't Stop Belivin) their keyboard player Jon Cain is old enough to have been there in 1958. Nowhere near the fire, tho.

this channel has really changed the way I look at certain buildings, now I find myself making note of exits and trying to think ahead, the idea of a maze with no emergency doors or anything and only one confusing route is terrifying

@@spider-queen IKEA

Oh my god same. Just happen to stumble across it and now I’ve already seen everything 😭

Facts I watched every video already

This channel is like crack lol, I can’t get enough of it... although the stories are terrifying and heartbreaking, they are absolutely fascinating little bits of mostly unknown history . Everyone I know is like what are you binging on Netflix and I’m over here like, have you seen this KZfaq channel?!? 🙂

I grew up in Wall Township

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I guess they think that having a plaque saying 'eight kids burned to death on this spot because we were so focused on profit that we did only the bare minimum and ignored clear warnings' would rather spoil the 'family fun day out' ambience and be bad for business :(

@@rich_edwards79 exactly...”lets just brush it aside and forget about 8 people losing their lives...”

I mean, people have died on nearly every square foot of every habitable landmass.

They originally had botanical gardens put in for people to walk through or sit...new owners took them out to put new attractions in ☹️