you made a mistake. kings did win a title back in 1951

2015, 2020 and 2002 are the only finals that should have asterisks. 2015 the cavilers should of won that. the 2020 finals shouldn't of even existed. last year's finals should of been the 2020 finals instead. the 2002 finals should of went to a game 7. the nets getting swept by a team who was rigged to be there, seems fishy.

@qzurx I specified their Sacramento history, and that championship was 3 decades before they were in Sac. Maybe I could have worded it better though

@@jonnyarnett yeah but they still won just like how okc won a title but they won as the supersonics but yes you could've.

Thanks Jonny for this video 👍

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This narrator has moments where his opinion takes over

@@vionaking4531 ok buddy we all know David stern was fingering his but whole to the lakers winning. You, I, every other human who watched the nba in the early 00’s knew that the lakers got every call

Facts!

I have to suspect it’s because of his skin color. At this time The country media leans towards anti white sentiment. There shouldn’t be anti any race sentiment.

The fact that Lebron chosen over Jerry 😒

If Jerry West was black, there wouldn't be nearly so much controversy

​@@mmclaurin8035Making this a race thing is pretty pathetic.

​@@mmclaurin8035 uh, OK, I'll pick up a stick and play. If Jerry West was black, he would likely be a LOT more highly regarded as a player.

Bcoz of Nike's cash cow kobe bryant

@@layuponthedownlowdon’t forget Shaq.. he was far more profitable at the time

@@layuponthedownlowsame with lebron vs the warriors 😂

27 free throws in the 4th quarter will never be insane on a team with Shaq. Teams fouled him purposely to stop the clock and send him to the line during his entire career.

@@darksaint0124 quit riding kobe's dxxk mayn. The guy dead already. Let him rest in peace 🙏

Most rigged game in history.

Absolutely. This was around the time I stopped watching the NBA religiously. That Kings team is one of my favorite teams of all time. It was a heartbreaker

I mean yea but the kings missed like 40 free throws.

@@SeeThomasHowl you deprived yourself of consistently watching 20 years of great basketball because you was in your feelings about one playoff series 🤡

The amount of free throws they missed is irrelevant.@@Bigguy5588

Nah Fr.

AD over Dwight is stupid

​@@legendarywiimastervery stupid. AD shouldn't have even been considered. He ain't did diddly squat compared to Dwight.

Yeah that’s wild and hugely disrespectful to every great player from the era. If you’re good when monsters like Wilt Chamberlain and Bill Russell are in the game then you’re good and I can’t believe this has to be argued.

Jerry West is in his 80s and he is definitely not black lol

@@user-eo3gz7ve3y I believe you misunderstood the OP

Another African-American man who agrees with the original post.

Yep. Silver continued that trend.

Exactly.. wrestling has made millions and people know it's fake/scripted..once sports owners start to realize they could control the narrative and bring in millions of dollars from it..things got ugly...it's business.

and literally saved the league doing so

​@@sbrooks904 how is that saving the league is beyond me. Being european I hate that logic because its false. We have the same here with football. Benfica in Portugal is majorly benefitted, Barcelona in Spain has the same kind of benefits. Corruption alters and kills sport doesn't make it better.

@@sbrooks904People don’t realize how he took basketball from a localized ‘NHL’ to an international phenomenon. Brilliantly tying it into early hip hop culture. Nobody is saying ‘improved the sport’, but we have the legendary Jordan 1’s, the Questions, Reebok Pumps, Air Flight Ones, VC’s Shox, etc because of Stern. It took time, but he became a brilliant marketer who put through NBA on the national stage with massive TV deals.

Jerry West, a man among men in my book and without the Racism. Much Respect!!!

Nope. He respected the game. how can you respect basketball and not respect the logo? Ridiculous

He literally called Larry Bird a Bitch on camera… & used to bury Jerry Krause every chance he got. You think Michael who was heavily protected by David Stern & the whole system wouldn’t if he could? Lmao Michael is your Jesus

Kanye west ?

@@sharkyshark6760Yes. And MJ is Micheal Jackson

Obviously. The NBA technically owned the Hornets, so idk why it was so confusing to Johnny on why David Stern vetoed the trade; why would an owner trade a superstar for peanuts.

That's definitely what it was about. The league wouldn't have been able to sell the team if they ransacked it! Plus the Lakers were trying to get CP3 for a bag of peanuts and not give anything of value to the Hornets so they cancelled the deal! But the Lakers conspiracy theorist will tell you they did it to stop Kobe from winning. SMH

Don't forget the contracts the Hornets were taking on. If I recall correctly, people were upset because the Hornets were not only giving up the best player, they were also taking on much more salary and some of those contracts were only for one year, meaning the Hornets could have walked away with far less than what it looked like on paper if those players didn't resign. Even if Gasol and Odom stuck around New Orleans (a big if), the trade gave the Lakers cap space and pretty much ruined the Hornets' cap space.

That’s understandable and I get it from a corporate perspective. However, as an nba fan, I don’t like it.

This was one of the worst potential trades, and the league knew that it would decimate the value of the Hornets as well as give the Lakers the chance to run the gauntlet for the next five years and probably stack three or four championships, which would’ve discouraged all of the small market teams at that time who were trying to break through.

NBA and the other major sports leagues are turning into sports “entertainment”, sort of like WWE wrestling. They “rig” the outcomes of games to ensure maximum tv ratings and viewer engagement. Make the games more exciting

Bro ade legit got fouled

@@steviechampagne exactly my point. well done Stevie

​@@loud746090 plus free throws? Stop it bruh. No he didn't.

@@loud7460sure games 3 and 5. Only got eight fts in game 4. However, there is no way you can convince me that game 6 wasn’t rigged to the ground

Stern was a better league GM than that moron Silver. I grant that's "damning with no praise whatsoever".

GM?

Webb would be discussed alongside Dirk imo Nash would be ahead of guys like Kidd Payton and stockton probably

@@reimixo Cwebb most probably be in the convo of the top 5 pf's, and Nash probably be in the top 20 all-time discussion. Kobe and Shaq's legacy is also interesting if they only managed to win 4 (kobe) and 3 (shaq) respectively.

@@nicksamp515 shaq could be out of the top 10

Coming from the Celtics fan lmao

​@bryanscanlan2287 I'm a knicks fan and even stevie wonder can see the lakers benefit way more than any franchise

Stern loved 3 things Money The Lakers And Shaquille O'Neal

Relax buddy

Why are they booing you? You're right.

It’s amazing to watch😂

Yeh that team was so fun to watch. Stacked with so much offense.

Yes. The league is desperate on who would be the face of the NBA after the goat's stint with the bulls. Stern was really pushing for the Shaq and Kobe to be the new faces of the league, but sadly they had a feud. Add in the controversy of Kobe and the NBA instead hyped LeBron tremendously to be the new face of the league.

Well Philly had AI and AI was ironically (they didn't like his style at first and punished him) one of the most marketable players ever. Everyone loved em. Dude had white kids wearing rows in 01 rocking the sleeve and headband

and with the insane bad luck the celtics had in the late 80s and entire 90s, so no lakers vs celtics narrative for a long time, they had to get creative with the rigging, it was pretty clear

Yep, the Sixers Bucks shenanigans seems to have been historically overshadowed by the Lakers Kings debacle. People may scoff at this, but the Bucks were 8-0 vs the top 4 in the West in 2001. I don't think they would've beaten the Lakers, but I believe they would've given them a better series than Philly. The irony.

Put also the Lakers series with Portland the next year I think

Me too. Sickening.

DAM STRAIGHT, IT AINT FITTING!!! THEN IT FIT!! 💯

Jerry being disrespected left and right is a crock of shit. People in the NBA community owe him so much.

lol this started a huge argument last Christmas during the annual MJ vs Lebron debate. I'm always going to ride with my wildcard pick. we won't allow Kobe slander or omission around these parts

Indubitably💯

Ya but watching him chase number six was uglier then a helicopter crash

Ngl pippen fans would scream his goat case until the end of time if that happened.

7 peated how when there were two seasons between the Bulls 3 peats? Furthermore, if they reached the finals he would have been swept by Hakeem

@@petermuchiri6631 "An Imaginary Universe that DOES NOT exist where Scottie Pippen seven peated would have been insane"

Was also voted on by the players in the league which all saw Bill as the better player

ehh I don't think that's an accurate comp. i love JJ but West was in a completely different stratosphere. also, did JJ insult Jerry West? Wasn't he talking about the players in Bob Cousy's era? Cousy played a generation before West mostly, and JJ was only talking about the competition. He wasn't wrong, but that doesn't take anything away from how good a guy was. Can't blame him for being years and years ahead of the curve.

It’s funny, because you argued JJ’s point. He’d a mid tier at best player in the modern era. But a guy with his same skill set dominated the league in his era because the competition sucked. It’s a silly debate imo, but I don’t think you argued what you think you did.

​@@mikemck4796West was much more than just a shooter like JJ

What people don't realize is players are products of their environment. Players had to work full time jobs in the offseason to make up for the league's shit pay. I'm sure they would've loved to have dedicated everything to basketball, but they had bills to pay and families to feed. Not only that, but the rules were extremely strict. You had to dribble with your palm on top of the ball or the refs would call it a carry every time. Pretty much every modern dribble move would be a carry back then. Travelling was just as strict.There was no restricted area, so offensive fouls could be called right under the rim. Players had literally 0 freedom on offense back then compared to today. They did the best they could with the bullshit they were handed, and it's unfair to disrespect them for circumstances out of their control. What people need to understand is that JJ, as well as any player, would've had to adhere to the same strict rules in West's era. He would've had to sacrifice time for training to get a summer job to survive because the league didn't pay players enough. More than that JJ's impact would be minimal in era where every shot was worth the same. Without his 3's, what did he really do? He wasn't a defender, a rebounder, a dribbler, or a passer. He wasn't even the best shooter in his generation. That'd be Ray Allen. Not even the shooting role player either. That'd go to Kyle Korver. It's the dudes like Jerry West who had to threaten strikes and fight the league for every dollar they deserved so that the ones like Magic and Bird could make a real living off the league, dedicate themselves to the games and push it to new levels. They had to endure and sacrifice so that clowns like JJ could sit there and run their fucking mouth without a damn clue about the history of the sport they get paid to talk about. In fact, that's the whole issue with NBA culture. Too many ignorant fools who think they know everything when they barely know anything.

​@@xylynthian753all valid points but one I love to bring up is that players back then didn't train from the time they were toddlers to be NBA Stars like they are now.

Yup, especially with all the idiots that thought that Scottie Quitten had a chance at the winning the MVP over Hakeem and beating the Rockets in the Finals.

wouldn’t even be in the nba today

@@quadexes what a dumb comment. He’d b a mega star today.

@@mymountrushmore6235 lol yeah he’d totally compete with ja, curry, trae, sga like nah bro would get cooked every night

@@quadexes he had one of the highest verticals ever and was tied for the best Olympic high jumper in the world at the time. Yeah he would dominate any era. Imagine a much smarter Dwight Howard a taller faster better passing Ben Wallace. U have no idea what ur talking about

@@quadexes oh u were referring to West. West was made for today’s nba. Once again proving ur ignorance. He was a great two way player and one of the best shooters ever. Just watch him play and it’s easy to c how he would dominate today. Was just as athletic as anyone today

So your saying the NBA the refs and Horry coluded to take Kobes 3 away so Horry could make a game winner on purpose but they also coluded with Horry to miss on purpose so they could freeze the clock for Shaq to get the game winner.

Your also thinking they told Horry to foul Nash hard when it strategically makes sense and while Stoudemeyer is on the bench. All this for the chance to suspend Stoudemeyer if he steps off the bench. Maybe Horry just played on the Lakers during the time when NBA leadership used officiating to influence the outcome of games.

Don't believe every half baked conspiracy theory you read on the internet. It's good to keep an open mind just not so open that your brain falls out.

Glad to hear it!! People generally seem to like them, and they do well on the channel, so I'm working on doing more series that can eventually be put in a compilation :) The Ultimate Team compilation will be 5 hours long. lol

It wouldn't have done shit, really. If the NBA had to call everything as it should be, games would have ended 40-38 with 60 of those points coming off free throws and teams down to their last 5 on 5 by the end of the first quarter. So it wouldn't ever happen. Prime Shaq / current Jokic would foul out 4 guys in their first 24 touches.

You’re talking about a town that is fake, Hollywood is nothing but fantasies. They wanted the prestige of the Bulls in the 90’s but saw how hard it was to win 3 in a row legit so they needed help.

Your joking if you believe that. Losing Gasol and Odom in that trade. LA would of fell apart faster

@@melvynsngltn27idk about that man

Wrong game 5 was bs LA was robbed nobody ever brings that up

@@melvynsngltn27 nah

@fatboy5926 yeah they was

@@melvynsngltn27 they really weren’t

@@fatboy5926 baloney

LeGoat tho

Kobe 4-2 against Spurs in playoffs

@@spacecity7136 timmy never missed the playoffs. Or had a losing record. Kobe also had Shaq

Ima destroy your argument with this, both have 5 rings so everything counts in the debate and its close, kobe average more points than Duncan, more assist, more all defensive teams and all nba teams. Kobe was much more clutch than duncan and won more head to head battles, be beat em more in the playoffs, the 2008 wcf sealed it without shaq. Duncan made playoffs more consistently n had more consistent team success but big part of it was the spurs system. To top it off kobe was much more entertaining, much more unpredictable and his mindset was unmatched. Kobe would get the crowd up in their feet in the 4th quarter with 2 min left in the game while duncan would put ppl to sleep because as great as he was he was boring complete snoozefest, don't ever be disrespecting the great kobe. Kobe was better than Tim duncan sorry not sorry

@@jlahooper2496 once again..Kobe had Shaq. And when he did have Shaq he was Robin. Shaq was Batman. Duncan never whined about his teammates not being good enough and Duncan never missed the playoffs. May have been boring but the results were better

​@jlahooper2496 that's right! 10 rings between the 2. 💪🏾

No because in the bubble they only invited a certain amount of teams. The teams that were in position at the time of season being shut down. I.e the Phoenix suns were on a 8 game win streak when season shut down, they were clearly making a run to be a playoff team. But they were not invited. So with the fact that the season was abruptly cut short, and certain contenders were cut out, the chip comes with an asterisk.

@@patricktardif1742 😂😂 you have no idea what you are talking about. The Suns were indeed invited to the bubble where they went undefeated but still didn't make the playoffs. Did you really call a team under .500 a contender? You clearly know nothing about basketball!

Thinking same thing and glad they didn't get CP3

I agree, but also disagree. If that makes sense. In that ONE instant, the league did overstep. His point still rings true, even though it was with the Lakers. Stopping that trade made no sense at all. And I’m a New Orleans fan, definitely not a Lakers guy.

One game. You need 16 wins to win a title. Only one game that playoffs is controversial.

@@facelessandnameless and would the Lakers have gotten a chance to play another game if that game wasn't rigged?

@@sir_sackWhich key player got suspended for calling someone the B Word on the Kings that series?? Actual great video of Kobe trying to calm down CWebb saying I don’t want to beat you guys short handed

@@davis2k1234 I'm referring to the officiating in game 6

@@sir_sack I know but is a couple questionable calls worse then having a key player which draymond might have won FMVP that series suspended for a closeout home game?

Lol

Exactly

Maybe if your team won double digit championships, the commissioner would give af to rig it for your team as well. Imm sure all 17 of those Championships were rigged as well.

"Fuck those guys for employing one of the best scouts to ever scout basketball"

@@Barraind.Faylestar So scouts are the reason the Lakers jump up in the draft way more then most other teams? Or that Refs helped them more then once to get far in the PO? Tell je you are stupid, without telling me you are stupid.

And play in tournanent is b.s. just go back to regular 1-8 seeds.

Jesus Christ

He was a rapist. He deserved his fate.