Agreed - Alton Towers handled this about the best they possibly could have. It's a terrible thing to have happened, but at least they didn't make it worse by fighting the victims.

*cough* Action Park *cough*

It's good they took responsibility, I am interested in seeing how the engineers who made that choice to override the safety, without taking a track walk to verify what they thought the issue was. I know I make several mistakes a day/week/month with noncritical tasks because the penalty for failure is being slower at completing something. But when I used to operate cranes I was hyper-vigilant about everything cause the penalty for failure was maiming/killing myself / others. I'm always interested in knowing how the people who made these calls hold up afterward.

Alton Towers is possibly the most popular theme park in the UK. I suspect it would have caused them irreparable reputational damage if they'd acted any differently. But I agree, full credit to them for doing the right thing. I remember this, it was all over the news here for quite a while.

@Robert Gardea -Disney World -Action Park

A little fire just means it can dry once done. It's fine :)

I've actually done this, although my washing machines broken part was merely a filter clogged with calcium, so it just spewed water everywhere over my bathroom floor, like shit going out of the ass of a hippopotamus.

_and then everything turned _*_pink_*

Especially if your getting paid to do it right?

A neighbour of mine (student house with studios) did this with the shared dryer. The day before I had texted the groupchat that the dryer made a horrible noise and that it was better to not use it. The next day she texted the groupchat that she got spooked by the noise the dryer made, but she didn't take her washing out. I had to turn it off for her because she was away.

Final Destination...

sounds like one of the final destination sequels lol

some of those people were interviewed on the news.

My grandma did just that, she got ready to get onto the car and changed her mind, it saved her life the car flew off the track people died so did her friend.

We went to lightwater valley in the UK the day before they had a death on a rollercoaster. The rollercoaster was like a waltzer car on a track. We got on and I asked about the car lap belt that was there. They said it was upto you but you didn't need any restraint as it was gentle. The next day a car went backwards into another one, the poor girl slipped forward off the seat and broke her neck. They found that the attraction needed safety belts as one of the recommendations.

Omg that's a terrifying thought! I've had similar thoughts about plane crashes. Knowing that you're about to crash at hundreds of miles per hour, and nothing you can do but just sit and wait for it. Ughhhh 😦

In one of the cctv stills, you can see one guy in about the 4th row pointing at something to his left. So, as sad as it is, I'd say a few of them had realised this.

I haven't been in that specific situation, but... I've been in ones like it. For me, it was "awwwwww fuck."

especially being in the front... knowing your legs are about to be brutally shredded from that impact and you might not even pass out. luckily they are on a roller coaster so the adrenaline probably is what helped them get through!

not only that, but they could've possibly gone from thinking about it happening and then once it halted they probably felt relieved, just to be sent crashing anyways a few moments later. it would've been a hell lot of emotions in a few seconds. absolutely chilling.

Because it is possible an auto failsafe can report something by mistake and you may need to override it. Not sure how these work, but you need all sorts of things to ensure like redundancy.

@@91Indrek they have blinkers?

@@tinymetaltrees blinkers which automatically turn themselves off after a second or two, no joke

@@KrikZ32 Just in case a BMW driver accidentally turns them on, which is every time they turn them on.

@@tinymetaltrees Hey now, BMW blinkers are very useful (to confirm when you lock the car).

Coming from someone with whatever the hell your profile pic is

It's funny - I haven't seen those adverts for like 8 years and instantly had memories of when I first saw them and how uncomfortable I felt

When queuing up for the ride there are loads of the pictures and there’s this annoying repetitive music. Also it’s a really popular ride (even after this happened) so I was queuing for over an hour and it’s awful, but it’s a really good ride

Thats the whole point I think they're meant to be nightmare fuel especially for younger people, the smile inducing story aspect behind the ride is mostly bs, but for some people it may indue a twisted smile :)

Yes! I love it.

Would you have cancelled your university education?

Being a millionaire probably took the ege of a little bit though

That is truly awful.

@@hearmenow909 Is that really what you got out of that comment? that they should have canceled their uni and they were in the wrong? pls read again.

@@KrikZ32 I think you're missing the point of the comment, but okay.

They were not aware of the 5th car on the track, and had assumed it had cleared the block section. Also they cannot just abandon their duties and run outside to have a look.

@@joshuahicks4574 That's fair, I run smaller rides and coasters so I forget you can't always see the entire track just from your station on many bigger rides.

@@tyrap6949 Yea, plus the Smiler station and operator booth is inside, meaning its even more difficult.

@@joshuahicks4574 If your computer says there's a car on the fucking track and you think it's wrong you should at least find out on the radio how many cars there are supposed to be if for whatever retarded reason you are unable to look at the fucking track.

@@joshuahicks4574 they can't? I disagree. They could easily have put the ride on hold to take the couple of minutes to send ANYONE of the operators or engineers to do a visual confirmation. A few minutes literally cost two women their legs and future.

triggers my flight or fight, I have to look away while it’s on screen lol

Megalodon65 😂

Kinda looks like Cameron Diaz😂

@Md AHS lol 😂

It's like the music video for Soundgarden's "Black Hole Sun" lol

Which makes it all even more infuriating, tbh! There were cameras in place!! If the ride operators had access to the footage/they were surveillance cameras they could have clicked through and *seen* the car. What was the point of the camera???

Yeah. And everything was in plain view of the people standing around the rollercoaster. That must have been a hell of a thing to witness from only a few feet away.

@@hippopajamas The ride operators do not have access to the footage, only security has access to footage. You're literally assuming there was a screen the ride operator could actually look at... which is absurd. Those literally just meant to record what happens in case of accidents.

@@SimonWoodburyForget Ride operators have access to cameras along the track layout.

And thanks to this comment went back and found it @3:50 mark

honestly

Just waking up in the morning is good for me, especially considering what I do the night before !

That is the most relatable comment I've ever read.

Rea Long it’s meant to look demented... that’s the theming of the ride. It’s meant to “brainwash” you into smiling.

@@CTH9821 Yea it's annoying me how people aren't understanding what the actual theme of the rollercoaster is. Almost all of the main Alton Towers rides have a creepy theme, it's kinda just how they roll and I personally love it.

Moo it still looks terrifying

I hated this advert, it creeped me out from the get go. I'd change the channel. Oblivion looked much better.

I'd see that smile on the back of cereal boxes. Creeped me right out. Never want to go to the Smiler.

@Corey It was scary as hell. It's been over 5 years and it's still a regular occurrence in my mind. It was just the faces of the people when they realised something was happening and it was obviously serious. Then seeing the influx of emergency services rushing into the scene - absolutely horrendous. I haven't been to a theme park since.

Did it mean that there were less queues for the other rides?

@@Harcix I couldn't tell you, my family and me went home shortly after.

I was in my school nearby. And I know the doctors who operated on the victims. Nothing ever happens in Staffordshire so it was really traumatising. I’m just so happy nobody died

Sounds fun 😕

are they insane. shsjjsks. who'd want to go on any ride after that. 😭

The more serious injuries in this case are definitely more likely to be traumatic. However, I could stull see them going to other rides on the park. If riders were severely traumatized, it's common to have them go on a gentle ride to deal with that fear. I don't know whst else the park could offer them as condolences. They cooperated and paid, but it's not like they have a lifetime buffet pass or something else that they can give, so I understand that they were just trying to be nice. I do understand how that could seem unthinkable to use. I do hope some of the riders were able to get some happiness from that. The park would likely do their best to make an exceptional experience for those riders/customers/victims.

Plus they used their ride-induced handicap status to get to the front of every ride.

"Sorry about your legs... Come on back and relive that horrible experience anytime you want!"

yikes

The ride was trying to tell them something was wrong

The fact that he goes into such details while honouring the victims is why I would love to see him cover the Dreamworld accidents in Australia. The ride in question was one of my favourites of all time and it really did shake the country when it happened

@@TinaTissue28 Just read about this due to your comment. So very sad.

@@SusanWillful It is a very sad event and I am glad that accidents like this is very rare

@Layne Krusz The only saving grace was the children on the raft were thrown off, thus saving their lives

@@TinaTissue28 He's made it by now

Thats what I was thinking, I can't see anyone smiling whilst looking at flashing screens, it would give you a headache

@@jacobalexander1773 yeah I have epilepsy with myoclonic and tonic-clonic seizures, although fortunately my seizures aren't provoked by visual stimuli. But I am more aware of stuff like that ever since my diagnosis.

@@Sarah.Riedel Same. I was thinking that too. I'm very sorry about your epilepsy. I hope it doesn't impact your life the way mine does. 💛

Yea flashing lights are a migraine trigger for me so I can't imagine smiling from that bullshit....

Isn't riding a rollercoaster in general bad for someone with epilepsy? Multiple inducers - light passing through the steel rungs of the ride might trigger photosensitive epileptics, for one.

Sheer incompetence and negligence.

Right??

@@Transilvanian90 ABSOLUTELY.

It wasn't because they didn't know there had been a crash, it was because until someone actually made it out onto the site they believed it would be minor enough for them to handle themselves with park resources. At least that is what a longer video I watched on the topic implied.

IMAGINE THAT!!!

Well one of the victims passed out when they hit because she was in so much pain so she didn't hear much after that

Ms. Elite It was quite popular in England I don’t know about everywhere else

@@EAkin2000 s

It is in june

I live in Staffordshire so everyone my age goes here all the time. Hit particularly hard bcus we’d all walked past or been on that ride so many times

@@rachel_s_g i live close lol

At first glance I thought you were actually referring to an amusement park called “Virgin Parks” and thought where’s that??

@@Kawaiikitten0211 lmao me too

I'm surprised Virgin hasn't created a theme park actually.

@settle down Beavis Michael Jackson too?

i really looked up virgin parks smh

Park managers: "Should we make sure our undertrained staff has open communication with the engineers for the rides? Nah, they got this."

Which is exactly what they should have done before overriding the computer. As glitchy as computers are, they really do make very few mistakes in comparison to a human. This accident is proof of that.

Yeah I was wondering the same thing, why not check yourself?

This all seems right out of the Homer Simpson School of Safety Inspecting.

It might have been hidden behind the central element of the ride, and down to the miscommunication (i.e. not everyone working on the ride knew of the fifth car being on-track) the engineer thought that it was a phantom car because the other three were accounted for. Apparently he also said they felt under pressure to minimise downtime on the rides, although Alton Towers denies that. Regardless, the ride shouldn't have been operating in the high winds, the fifth car should have been weighted with water dummies for the test ride, and yes, someone should have checked by eye that the tracks were clear. This one was down to human error completely... but despite it all this coaster's still one I'd love to ride at least once in my lifetime.

I worked at Alton Towers for a bit before the incident (left about two months before it happened). That particular section of the park is away from any kind of stands/employee heavy areas. The only people who would've seen the stray cart would've been: -Park Guests, who would have little reason to suspect anything was wrong -Anybody monitoring CCTV of that specific area* -Any employee straying off their post *My Dad's friend's son is the head of security for Melin Attractions (which is how I got the job), and works in the CCTV Monitoring Center. It is highly unlikely you would notice a single individual issue with the ride with their being a cart on the track, espcially considering they were already scheduled to run a test on it, hence why the empty cart was there in the first place. If anyone did notice the cart, they would have to go through a long series of communications with various individuals before any real information would be relayed through to the people operating the ride on that day. By the time anyone could get and reasonable information across, the cart with people would most likely have already been sent. This lies entirely in the fault of the people who chose to override the ride's warning system, but it's also understandable as to why they did so, since (at the time) the systems that could detect carts on the track weren't 100% reliable, and could also sometimes be hyper-sensitive, picking things up like birds on the ride (which would likely move out of the way before anything could hurt them). Sorry for going off, just felt like sharing the information I had. :)

Exactly!

The problem is they have minimum wage, barely trained teenagers operating the rides. Half the time they're not even paying attention when you get on.

Yeah, it seemed like the ride itself DID prevent an accident from happening. They should have at least LOOKED before overriding anything.

Ironic how the ride itself had nothing wrong with it and was SIGNALLING to the staff that there was a cart still on the track but workers just didn’t bother to check for themselves.

Yeah, I was just thinking "why the hell would you even make it *possible* to override safety warnings on something as potentially dangerous as a rollercoaster?"

Check the recent upload for the River Rapids at Dreamworld in Australia as they got hit with a multi million Aussie dollar fine. I get what you're saying though, the USA incidents are usually brushed away, probably with envelopes stuffed with a few thousand to each of the vital players.

@@glenjones6980 honestly I find it really upsetting how because of that accident it nearly pushed dreamworld out of business completely, I’d lowkey be infuriated at the family, being so I respect and will miss the river rapids as it was the one ride my whole family went on together. For all the accidents around the world I think dreamworld got the most punishment for accident ratio.

@@jaydennicholls441 four people were dismembered by machinery in front of their children, the ride had obvious safety faults, it didn’t even have a water level sensor, i’m sure it’s nostalgic to you but i’d argue they fully deserved their reputation being ruined, they didn’t even have the respect to build a memorial they promised

@@bakeymykakey no I don’t think they do have their reputation ruined as it’s still the biggest and WAS the best theme park at its time. As I said I completely agree that this was the most horrific accident in Australia yet but shutting down dreamworld would’ve been devastating. Now if we look at america there’s a ride known as the Batwing which is an inverted roller coaster it has DECAPITATED two people months apart and EACH time it opened within the SAME DAY or the next day. The scream roller coaster in America/Canada, well that one had a car of 10-20 people slide at 60-80mph into the other car crushing several of the guests legs, leaving them paraplegic, others lost arms ect few might’ve died. ALL ON FULL VIEW of other guests. That was open within a couple months or a year. So no I’m my opinion dreamworld shouldn’t have had it’s reputation ruined.

I think the engineers who overrode the safety system lost their jobs. Alton Towers always put their customer safety first and foremost, two of their employees ignored a safety precaution on the ride...which was telling them something was wrong...and they just decided to not check with someone about how many trains were on the track for sheer ignorance

i'm pretty sure all those involved (the operators and engineers who overrode it) were fired and arrested as well as fined

how do you know this??@@lucyhardy-styles-shield2728

well i guess you could count “smiley”... not really a cult classic tho

Literally how they chose the name. That's literally the point. Anything new to add?

@@fdfsdfsvsfgsg4888 you really like the word literally.

I swear there is a z-list horror movie named The Smiler

@@masterof4elements826 i thought there was too.

@Elite Soulfly youre much more likely to die in a car crash on the way to a park then at the park from anything in it . these incidents with serious injury are extremely rare at big parks.

@Elite Soulfly The ride and park is safe. It was a human error and I've noticed that there are more staff on that ride than any of the others, so they're doing all they can to prevent human errors.

Having been to the park both before and after the accident I would say the staff are far more stringent in their safety checks now. Sadly this should have been the case all along

@@haleynorthpie6740 your more likely to die in a home invasion. your more likely to die of smoking. you are more likely to die of alchohol or obesity. so its ok because its rare?

@@moo9874 it will never be safe as long as humans operate it.

Oh my GOD. I hadn’t heard of this Dreamworld incident. I’ve just seen that the first responders were so traumatised by seeing what happened to the victims that they have PTSD and are suing the park. Surely this is the most horrific theme park incident in history

I read the inquest about that accident. There were several things going on that the maintenance staff should have caught. The immediate cause of the accident was that one of the pumps that supplied water to the ride malfunctioned and shut off, causing over half the water in the ride to be drained away, and two of the boats got stuck on a moving mechanical track, where one of them got trapped in the gap between the tracks and water. The two boats weren't even supposed to be that close together at the same time because of the potential for a collision, but the staff had allowed them to be released onto the ride close to each other anyway. To add to that, the water pump had malfunctioned 2 or 3 times earlier in the day, causing the ride to have to be shut down every time, and once the park staff were called in to remove people from a boat that got stuck on the tracks earlier. Then the park re-opened it again in spite of all of that, and that was when the fatal accident occurred. I didn't know about the Christmas bonuses for the board. That's disgusting. What a horrible insult to all the victims' families and friends.

This is a very late reply and only on topic with the first part of your comment, but The Smiler is meant to be scary and make you feel uneasy. The ride literally has distorted laughs and music playing in the queue. It's themed after brainwashing and cults. They have a gift shop that sold those mouth stretching type of doodads to make you smile. Yada yada, its meant to be spooky. Just makes it worse that an unsettling ride had such a terrible crash.

Check ot the video list on his channel as Fascinating Horrors actually DID do video on it

A similar incident happened at Cedar Point in 2010 or 2011. A boat ride similar to Pilgrim's Plunge at Holiday World had one of its boats not line up with its underwater track properly, and the boat capsized, pinning some riders under it. A few guests climbed over the guard rail next to a path overlooking the ride to help park employees save the passengers. The ride was shut down and never reopened since. I think the ride itself is gone, but the lake it ran through and the ride station building are still around.

It saddens me that people are so stupid and gullable that they blindly trust these contraptions and put their lives in the hands of souless corperations

@@spooped4033 ummmm so a corperate entity has compassion? Thats a bizzare claim. And if an emplyee of that corperate entity has compassion that means we can blindly trust them. Even though psychopaths can take control of them and often do? And researching their safety mechanisms before questioning their integrity is nlond trust? So should i check all theme parks? Or are they all equal? If 1 has integrity should i assume they all do? Are machines infallable? Are humans only motivated by benign goals? Youre a moron

I'm glad you said "safer" and not "safe," because... it's never gonna be truly safe.

@@harrier331 no, i do not accept i am saglfe using any type of transport. I am accutely aware that i am putting myself in danger and i have no illusions of safety. It is a calculated risk.

@@anitabonghit2758 Risk is what makes it enjoyable. Chances of being in a rollercoaster accident is disgustingly small. You're more likely to win the lottery twice im pretty sure is the stat. Must be boring living in your safe, cowardice life.

Things like that are exactly why I don't like roller coasters and why they're the only thing that trigger a terrible fear of heights in me (despite me being an avid hiker, decent climber and having hanglided before). The feeling of being strapped into one of these harnesses, speeding along on those thin, rattling tracks, completely at the mercy of whatever the ride throws at you, is nightmare fuel to me. I know accidents are rare, but I prefer to get my thrills elsewhere. If I ever fall to my death, I want it to be through my own fuckup, on my own terms.

Will do. There are some many strange and crazy accidents I want to tell the story of.

@@FascinatingHorror great! :)

@@FascinatingHorror I don't trust any of those amusement park rides . Back in the late 80s early 90s I dated a lawyer you told me he got to go on some kind of roller coaster ride at Disney in California alone at night with one person because he was working on the case as someone died on the ride and it was Disney's fault . You just never know. Anyway you might want to talk about the case I learned of perhaps a year and a half ago... I think the boy was on the roughly around 10 11 12 years old it was some sort of slide or water slide ride in Oklahoma where the poor thing actually ended up getting decapitated and his brother who was there turned around to see the blood running down the slide . Poor kid goes to have the time of his life and instead it takes his life . I can't remember the name of the place I'll try to look it up and come back here and give you more info if you have not yet heard of it

@@FascinatingHorror k.. I found it : Caleb Schwab was killed at Schlitterbahn Park and Oklahoma and if you go to horror stories Channel and scroll down in the comments you will see someone by the name of gixxer give some more information.... that is a good place to start . Everyone needs to know this God awful story so that if they are ever in a situation similar to that they might actually be able to somehow see the warning signs beforehand and not follow through with the ride . That dear child was at the beginning of Life and should have had decades a fun and living ahead of him .

@@FascinatingHorror on the Atlantic Channel a video titled something like world's tallest water slide terrible idea... I'm just looking at it now as somebody recommended watching it to see what really went wrong and you might be interested in that . Also I do apologize if I said the park was in Oklahoma.... it was in Kansas and the ride has since been torn down as the creators had been told by engineers and mathematicians that it was too dangerous

We had a school trip there not too long after the crash and I avoided it like the plague just felt too soon...

Oh I thought the video said they didn’t reopen it for a whole year after the incident

@@katybug6572 They did say so in the video, however an article says it was 9 months. I don't know which is correct, however I do remember thinking they had opened it way too early when it did open back up so 9 months could be more accurate.

Does it actually manipulate you into smiling?

@@BrookeWinter82 honestly it's sort of a gimmick. I found myself smiling no more than usual, maybe even less because I was terrified of actually riding the thing, and I love rollercoasters haha. Nemesis gets me laughing more.

guide lines are written in blood

I disagree. Sometimes safety warnings and automatic lockdowns can cause more harm than good. It should require some kind of admin password, but the option to override it should ALWAYS be there

@@bobskywalker2707 nope, it's a safety feature for a reason. If the safety warning is going on then it's not SAFE immediately stop what you're doing and fix the problem.

@@slickrick75150 What if an automated safety system locks doors preventing people from getting out of a burning building? I know that's not exactly going to be a commonplace, but there should be some way to override the automatic measure just for those outstanding events

@@bobskywalker2707 there are safety features on automatic doors for that reason so that you don't ignore the safety warnings. Your argument is invalid safety should NEVER be able to be overridden.

All the likes on this comment are people who also live super close to the theme park

Jess yeah me too. I remember going here on a school trip where they let us just run off and go on whatever but the line was insane.

Timing is everything thank god you guys went a week b4 so scary. After something like that happens ...that ride should be tore down !

@@macadonis9242 why should it be torn down ?

@@SarahLouiseDouglas sarah because its dangerous as hell.. bolts falling out..track splitting. People hanging upside down 4ever.. cart crashing full impact everyone hurt. Couple people losing feet. If i was one to lose a foot for life i would own that park . Zero amount could replace my foot. Omg you would ride that thing after all that? Its just like a dark cloud over it kinda morbid idk.

@Alfie Liddle thanks for your opinion that means nothing to me! Alfie ride it all you want! Hear is thing that im telling you! Its something called respect showing character...remorse ever hear of it clearly the park lacks it...its money all they see .thanks for your weak ass opinion. Imagine if your kid or loved one was on that ride just forget it it's above your head!!!

Look at the front of a lucky charms box. The expression on his face isnt that far off. It's just obtained by chemicals in the cereal.

@@Matt19matt19 hmmm idk , the British are especially corny when it comes to marketing and entertainment.

The entire theme of Alton Towers is creepiness and surrealism, someone once said it was as if Lewis Carroll designed a theme park. The park's theme tune is In the Hall of the Mountain King by Grieg which everyone in the UK colloquially calls the "Alton Towers theme" to the annoyance of classical music lovers. kzfaq.info/get/bejne/kJemmKtplc3IhWQ.html

@@krashd I remember hearing that song included in a Mad Men episode and thinking theres no way a UK period drama show would include that as it instantly breaks tha immersion and makes you think of Alton Towers TV adverts. I've never heard a classic music fan kick off about it though

well, it worked here. and i once heard a joke that british people have a sense of humour similar to looking an eldritch horror in the face and laughing at how it could rip them to shreds, tear down their house and sink their country easily.

Stfu

@@henryhatesharribos_8292 n o- did you have a brain tumor for breakfast? Do you not get how VITAL it is to never ignore warnings to keep everyone safe? Did you fall on your head as a child?

@@henryhatesharribos_8292 what's your problem dude. You've been shitting up the whole comment section

It’s probably the safest ride there, when I went they had water dummies on the ride to Eau it down because covid has made it so less people are on the ride.

Haha. I was thinking that it would be horribly seizure inducing.

I ain't old and i'm pretty sure it'd give me a migraine too

It’s an amazing ride! I’ve been on it a few times since the accident happened. Definitely my favourite coaster.

Honestly once you get past the last part of the queue and onto the ride it’s a great ride and is super safe now. Alton towers in general is a great theme park and has some of the best rollercoasters in England as long as you have the patience to wait in the queues for them because every ride is just so busy

I’m pretty sure that was intentional

It's really anything where your life is in the hands of an untrained inexperienced and most importantly cheap to hire operator. Or anything designed by the lowest bidder with the cheapest materials. Just look at the 737 Max, nothing can be trusted.

i hope this helps in some way you're more likely to get into a car crash going to the theme park than get injured IN the theme park the stats are: car crashes: 1 in 300, roller coaster/theme park accidents: 1 in 24,000,000 (i thought it was 250,000,000 but it isn't). plus the smiler is a lot safer now, and i believe only trained professionals can operate it now, not just people hired to do it i mean people specifically trained FOR the smiler

Is that the one where it has a history of cars getting jammed at the top of the first drop?

Ckat24 no a lady was too heavy to be on the ride and the restraining bar did not click right and the ride went on and she ended up coming out of her seat and falling out while her son was next to her.

@@jessicainfante7227 Lady was too heavy to be on the ride but was allowed to go anyway. MURICA. I'll have to look that one up too. Thanks!

@Stephanie Logan I remember that, I think it was at Knott's Berry Farm though, unless it was just a similar incident. I love rollercoasters but the only time I've been terrified for my life was actually at Six Flags Magic Mountain, in CA. We were going on X2, which was fairly new at the time I think, and I'd never been on it before, and during the ride I realised that my safety bar was loose but I couldn't tighten it. The ride does 360s, loops, etc and I was slipping around in my seat so badly as there was a huge gap between me and the bars (I was like 15 and really tiny) that I was terrified I was going to slip right out of. I was a really shy kid and never told anyone at the time about my experience, looking back I definitely should've said something to the ride staff.

What's sad It was her first time going

I watched that. I wondered if it was this ride.

Nah. Don't feel bad. That was me too. I remember being mildly irritated since I loved Alton Towers and thought it was just fear-mongering at the time.

There has only ever been one other real incident on a ride there in which the back half of the runaway mine train's train was separated from the front half, but that is it. An extremely clean track record up until then

@@vimes1003 my god, I never knew runaway mine train had an incident.

pun intended?

@@whatthefuckisupwithhandles lol. No actually. But we’ll spotted 😂

I was sure it was the same element

Lol it wasn't even the butterfly loop it was the batwing roll😂

HenryHatesHarribos _ ok bro I think I get it now ngl

Oh sh¡t...

Because it has 14 inversions and is a lot of fun

Its supposed to provoke fear! I went on this ride 2 months before this crash occurred. I do have to say, this is one of the greatest rollercoasters I've ever been on. Even with its dodgy history and this horrific crash, id go on it again in a heartbeat. Maybe second row though

Because it is 100% worth the risk; it is THAT good

I'd just keep thinking about Final Destination 3!

@@k1dn1ce76 same

I went on it a couple weeks before it crashed. It's gotta be said, I'm not sure if I'd go on it again 😆

@@KissMyFatAxe personally I’d rather go on a ride that has crashed as you know for sure they won’t allow the crash to happen again, the safety measures would be better then any of the other rides

How Merlin handled a fatality at Warwick Castle in 2007 suggests otherwise.

They didn't do it because they're a good company, they did it because it was obvious they were at fault and if they fought it not only would they look like schmucks but they'd get absolutely no mercy at all in court. Seriously, if you deny something you are obviously guilty of, it's in your best interest to NOT imply the judge/jury is an idiot who can't see the truth.

Ask the people that work in the park if it's a good company

@@kathleengorman6151 Wait, what?

@@NitroIndigo A customer fell 4m (13ft) over a low wall and died. Merlin Entertainments were fined £350 000 and at the time said they were disappointed with the verdict. I also know someone who was with the first aid team covering the event that was on (it was a Christmassy thing with a skating rink) and they said that the staff were more concerned that there was first aid coverage for the skating rink than dealing with the gentleman who fell. Local news article on the court case www.leamingtoncourier.co.uk/news/warwick-castle-bridge-death-trial-company-fined-ps350000-after-guilty-verdicts-2379061

That’s what I was thinking about- not only experiencing the crash but then being trapped for hours. Even if you were lucky enough to have minor injuries, I can’t imagine the trauma of just sitting there listening to people in incredible pain while they bleed out and being unable to do anything about the situation.

@@melmel376 There are some videos of interviews with the victims and their experience was horrifying. I think one of them passed out, but the others had to wait there thinking they were going to die. It was 3 best friends in the front row and both girls each lost a leg. The guy with them was permanently injured as well. I can't even imagine.

Yeah, there is a full inquest. I found it linked on Reddit. That one was horrible to read about not just because of how the victims died but because there were so many mechanical failures over and over and over again, that should have been screaming red flags to shut down and refurbish the entire ride and how it was operated, but the park kept it running anyway.

Check out his most recent video!

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Sorry, above link for video on Dreamworld river rapids disaster

They held their hands up and admitted operator error and paid out a large amount in compensation to the victims.

Pretty low to sue the person, too. They won't have money to pay you anyways, si it'd just be petty vindictive behavior.

Ash Kebora he is the one at fault through negligence... wasn’t the shareholders of the park. It was those two engineers fault for overriding it. Losing a limb at 17 would be extremely expensive needing adaptions for the rest of your life.

Mags anyone know how much compensation they got?

@@marvellousaunt but when you become a millionaire from it, with your life, it's not the worst outcome

Yea, it's just a matter of statistical danger. Accidents like this are exceedingly rare, which means it's relatively safe. You certainly have much more of a chance dying every single time you get in your car and drive somewhere

*Laughs in AK47*

It didn’t fail. Unless by things with moving parts you’re referencing the idiot humans who ignored clear computer warnings

Yep. Also enable and enforce communication between the staff and technicians so they can have a better idea of what is going on. You can't blame individuals for making bad decisions under pressure. The problem is when the employer allows for that possibility when the guests' safety is at stake.

There is actually written protocol from HSE England, Merlin, and Gerstlauer. The team has to be sure beyond doubt that there is not a train, or danger in the next block section to perform a block reset.

They did a reset because they thought it was a ‘phantom train’