The latest ipso poll has independence at 53%. Many fail to realise that the Scots don't like Westminster blocking their laws

@TGV Actual Cope. You know nothing about Polling or Scotland if you think that "Support for Independence" polls mean Brexit, or that they'd ask them in a way that could have concievably misconstrued that.

During the 2016 referendum, Scotland overwhelming supported Remain. Every county and with a national total of 62%. I dont think it was independence from the EU they wanted.

That's correct. But it won't stop the British media and their influencers online from aligning a drop in support for the SNP with a drop in support for independence, even if support for independence is still very much going strong.

@@FlubWubSam During the 2014 Referendum. We were told the only way to stay in the EU was to Vote to stay in the union. Two years and many broken promises later, we find ourselves in this situation.

The system is actually designed to provent this happening in order to fore cooperation. Snp broke the system

Quıte difficult? The D’Hondt voting system was chosen by Blair’s Labour for the very fact to make it near impossible for independence to occur as it’s near IMPOSSIBLE to gain outright majorities.

@@georgecampbelll the system was designed wastminster to keep the nationiist from winning ,perfidios albion up to its old tricks again ! ALBA GU BRATH

Yeah tldr skip explaining that

​@@lewismcdonald9691 it's called TLDR for a reason.

who done wat? all of scotland is indy

yeah we should of got a person we never voted for thats thick as shit like use. your whole countries a fxn joke to us

What Constitution? show us the Unwritten non existent UK Constitution to read ?

People know labour are anti independence, yet more and more people are voting for them. Maybe people in Scotland aren't as pro independence as people like you like to make out

@@ScottishRoss27 I’m referring to the Scottish Constitution question (INDEPENDENT )

​@@ScottishRoss27 the UK has an uncodified constitution

@@JoannaSmilesLots Exactly, it doesn't exist

Try 5 years later

Sure it might return to its hight under Nicholas sturgeon. But I don't see then having enough to win a reforndom anytime soon

Or when the corrupt class system and establishment re-asserts itself you mean

​@@lenabo9929 England will dissolve the Union so there will be no need for another referendum in Scotland

@@lenabo9929 i agree, i just saying, Labour isn't exactly popular and well liked, people just hate the Tories and the SNP screwed things up recently, but their ideology remains in Scotland regardless of their competence

how many people who voted Green also support independence then?

and if they're anything like the uk greens, they want to abolish the oil and gas industry.

@@joeblogs6598 Yep

@@joeblogs6598 and at the same flood Scotland with infinity migrants.

@@wulfsorenson8859 Always found it contradictory that Ireland, Wales, and Scotland all want (or have already) to leave the UK union, only to join the EU union. They want freedom, only to throw it immediately away.

yep, as someone in that age group I always got funny looks when I said that I trusted the snp to make scotland independent but not to run an independent scotland, after sturgeon stepped down I finally had some people saying the same thing back to me, especially with the religious zealots getting such a large portion of the party votes

And yet the new FM isn't letting his religion interfere with the politicts, what is fact though is bigotry and racism has reared its ugly head. The SNP are a vehicle for independence only, once that is done they dissolve and new Scottish parties will form.

It is the issue with having a party with a political goal that is neither left nor right nor centrist. It means the party is a melting pot of many different ideologies and political views all with the same goal of independence. A strong leader like Sturgeon was able to keep those groups together and push a relatively popular agenda in Scotland. However when Sturgeon stepped down all the various factions within the SNP began fighting for control over the party and finally we've been able to see the divisions within the party that they had kept hidden so well for so many years

Yeah yeah, because Rishi Sunak, Suella Braverman, Rees-Mogg are natural alternatives. In fact, Keith Stormfront is more tory that Labour so the only alternative for Scots is the Green Party.

@@fawkyou2001 The SNP has always been a broad church, for many independence is the glue holding them together. Just take a good look at how the UK is governed and that is BADLY. Independence first THEN sort the politics.

The monarchy question is not likely to cause a split within the SNP any time soon. The few monarchist nationalists in the party do not feel anywhere near as strong enough about the issue to cause a split

​​@@quartzking3997 so all those Snp Mps who pledge loyalty to the British Monarch were lying then then again Plaid Cymru aren't any better at least the Fishy pair pretented to like the Monarchy for a bit.

@@simongarthwaite7695 lol imagine thinking that swearing an oath has any beatings on someone’s actual beliefs. These same MPs pledge loyalty to Britain but would rather see it disintegrate. Everyone is just going through the motions in this archaic system until the generational shift takes place and the world can be redesigned in the contemporary world’s image

@@quartzking3997 I like our "Archiac" system I'd just rather it was for England only the oath should mean something if it didn't why don't Sinn Fein Mps take their seats at Westminster?

@@simongarthwaite7695 to protest the British establishment? To appease their republican constituents? There is a multitude of reasons for Sinn Fein not taking their seats at Westminster

I agree completely. I could understand a headline like this if there was a bad local or national election for the SNP but this video is entirely based upon poll numbers (which can fluctuate quite a bit compared to how people would actually vote)

Brits are all about destruction and surrender .....

Exactly. The Tories are in far bigger trouble, with one huge scandal after another, they will be decimated at the next UK elections.

They've dropped nearly 15 points with some pollster's that's a pretty bad result especially when it doesn't look to be getting any better.

@@williampugh1489 there is no election to be held in 12-15 months. And don’t forget they’ve only had Humza for about 2 months in the job with all the controversial and mostly anti SNP press I’m surprised the Labor party hasn’t overtaken them. Also this very healthy for the independence movement. We can see that the movement is now wider then the SNP alone the wider public can see that. This makes its more interesting to see what will happen next. But so far the SNP haven’t lost an election yet. So it seems a little premature….

Avoiding tax and embezzling funds arent quiet the same

It's a classic whataboutism argument. A lot of SNP supporters were under the illusion that Scottish politics was less corrupt than British politics, the reality is the SNP were just better at hiding it... until recently.

​@@aaroncousins4750have any funds been embezzled though? The investigations been going on for 2 years now and no charges brought as yet and I doubt there will be tbh.

@@jod7633 did the snp leader not just get arrested

@@aaroncousins4750 I don't know who you're referring to as neither Humza Yousaf, Nicola Sturgeon, or even Alex Salmond have been arrested. I presume you're referring to the former chief executive Peter Murrell who wasn't really arrested, he was taken in for questioning and then immediately released with no charges.

You are whistling in the dark to keep your spirits up !

​@@stephenelkington4971 Much like the Tories in Scotland!

@@andrewwotherspoona5722 Nah - they know they're fcuked !

​​@@andrewwotherspoona5722 Watching the Scottish tories conference the other week it struck me how the members all looked like the cast of Cocoon the movie all very old and very white.

@@NoMoreToriesAnymore LOL.

But limited in expressing it as most powers stolen from Scotland are still held in England.

@@ScottishRoss27 you're confusing the word "stolen" with "willingly gave up". Next you'll be saying Scotland never had any role in colonialism.

@@dww6 You just done that

Quite fortunate for England that UK is a forced Union. No Article 50 there 🎉💪

@@dww6 If you think the Scottish people willingly gave up their right to govern then you are either incredibly thick or deliberately taking the piss.

Of course it hasn't. Where in this video is the proof. Nowhere. Where was the "post for pay" information, in this video, it was definitely there, highlighted and all. 😂

You're watching an english channel. So you farting will jeopardise Scottish independence.

​@@Mark-Haddow No vote has increased massively in the polls and will likely continue to as the tories leave power.

Independence to repatriate the stolen powers too people who live in this country to vote for whatever they judge is right, as its the norm in 195 other independent countries.

The Ukraine war has, and I'm getting worried about the SNP not having Scotland join NATO if it was independent, and that's a prime target for Russia.

Media are prohibited from publishing info that will or could prejudice ongoing legal cases. Once the case is over, they are free to publish.

Jimmy in Ireland you have Family law, Sexual offences and cases with children involved as in camera you can not attend as a member of public identify the parties and reporting can happen but you can’t identify the parties.

Just as an American who doesn’t work in news, I also noticed that as well.

@@WiggyB There are restrictions on that in the United States to, but not like in Britain. This stuff mainly simply doesn’t get to the press, because the press does not get to speak directly to the jury.

@@unconventionalideas5683 Thanks

Correct

cope harder 50% is the same as 35% come back from cloud 9 when your ready

@@covfefe1787 The latest IPSOS poll of late May shows the SNP back on 42%.

@@alicemilne1444 and ipsos poll prior had the snp at 50%

@@theotran8880 Yes, there was a drop, but all recent polls over the past few months show support for the SNP rising again.

we should just do indy cause that guy boris gave the job to is boring

well both are the same thing. theres no union person that votes indy snp. but there isnt a party in scotland thats not indy.. theres no one voting for more of this. or less..

they do that for everything. british court ruled. na english court. an use know that holds no wait to us wen we do. just shows u how dumb they are

Because the Scots autistically screech every time they are referred to as “British “ so of course England would get a monopoly on “British “ Good god Scottish education sucks.

Well said. Blinkered.

That's a pretty politicised spin on history. First, we know f-all about popular opinion of pretty much anyone before the medieval period. If you are referring to the Picts or the Gaels, written records concerning them before the medieval period are patchy, and what does exist mostly comes from monks who weren't even trying to write accurate history or sociology as we now think of it, didn't generally try to capture what the average person thought. Second, the various ethnic groups in what's now Scotland, including Picts, Gaels, Norse and Anglo-Saxons, also considered themselves separate from each other at various points, as did different ethnic groups in what's now England. To the extent people thought this way at all, I imagine Norse peoples in northern Scotland would have felt they had more in common with people in the York and the Danelaw than with Anglo-Saxon lowlanders. Likewise, Gaels in Dál Riata probably thought of themselves are more 'Irish' than as having anything in common with the Scottish mainland. The Kingdom of Northumbria straddled the modern Scotland-England border considerably, and I presume the Anglo-Saxons within just thought of themselves as Northumbrian. It's arbitrary and misleading to put a anachronistic to put a box around modern Scotland and pretend peoples within that box have always considered themselves as a distinct group relative to those outside it.

​@@merrymachiavelli2041 I guess they gonna ignore the first act of union too

I don't see why England will give them that right 😊 No article 50 by chance 🎉

@@merrymachiavelli2041 that is however, with respect a bit nuts though. Of course they weren't talking Pict or Gael. We have lots of historical evidence from the medieval period onwards. In 1707 (and indeed by 1707 Scotland was pretty certainly a unitary polity) there were petitions from almost all of the Burghs of Scotland against the union, hundreds of petitions; and only a few in favour. Look back into the history books, do a proper study of more than ten primary or academic sources at least, and you'll see the commenter was right. How do I know? I studied it for four years at university, and for context at the time I campaigned for a no vote in the first indyref. This issue, and the SNP, are not going away any time soon I'm afraid -- it's just a question really of how far unionists want to walk down an undemocratic path. Ireland should be a stark warning, to deny a population its rights doesn't make them compliant in the long term.

@@merrymachiavelli2041 also Scotland has had a unitary identity for hundreds of years, at least since the formation of the kingdom of Alba. Interesting points though, Scotland is indeed multiform if you go back far enough -- just like Ireland, England, Wales, France, Germany, Italy, Spain, Poland and most of the larger older countries of Europe. Even the Scandinavian countries contain old conquered and integrated polities.

A very sorry state of affairs as that’s not it appears to the rest of the world looking on in disbelief

only english say that about a party in scotland thats bigger than wen indy was on.but get rid of that cuntin charge.. hes slowing us down

Yes, but ‘disaster’ for Scottish Independencevis the new media narrative. WM doesn’t want us free of their control. So spurious unproven vids with made up polls will always be pushed forward!

100% correct. Labour have now joined the tories. Scotland is now running away from both.

It's just as well the SNP doesn't treat Scots with contempt, eh?

@@rogink that's another story entirely. ;)

You have a fabulous deal from Westminster as does Wales its England and the people of our country who have lost out and been ignored whilst propping up your toytown Parliament

@@rogink wat does that even mean? you know we gave them there jobs. u think were stupid or something

@@danwatt5789 your english be gone

They also skipped over why Salomond left so swings and roundabouts really.

good point tha ks for clarification

It also misses that the point that a weakened SNP does not result in a weakened independence vote, As the SNP vote falls the Green and Alba vote strengthens, and in Scotlands PR system this is much worse for the Unionists than a huge SNP 1 and 2 votes

We here in England couldn't give a shit about Scotland why do people think we care never understood that like seriously the scottish could get nuke and we still wouldn't even care 😂😂😂

wats up way the voting method. we dont get our real votes

Wales becoming independent. Please make this happen, I am sick to death of the massive subsidies we pump into that place, it will save the rest of the UK an utter fortune.

@@knightsnight5929 Empire is expensive.

@@knightsnight5929 England doesn't pay border transfers taxes stealing Wale's water or Scotland's oil, gas, electricity, Timber, Food & Drink. Both subsidise England.

Despite not going away, it seems that the movement is also not going anywhere. Support for independence has plateaued despite SNP making it the main issue and there is effectively no pressure right now on the UK gov to allow a second referendum. This seems to be the reason for whole 'de facto' referendum tactic to exert some pressure on the uk gov to allow it but that seems to have failed. Only way I see it happening is if Scottish people started protesting en mass and international pressure forced the hand of the UK gov or if Labour UK have a minority gov and made a deal which Labour doesn't seem to want to do so...

@@trevorwiley5098 Last 5 Polls on Independence 21st May Ipsos Yes 53% No 47% 27th April Survation Yes 48% No 52% 17th April Yougov Yes 46% No 54% 29th March Survation Yes 47% No 53% 2022 Economic Growth Rate Scotland 4,9% Finland 2,1% Source Scottish GDP Quarterly Growth Rate Q4 2022 (Annual) Stats Finland Annual National Accounts 2022 May 2023 Employment Stats Total Women Men Scotland 2,683 million 1,323 million 1,359 million Finland 2,606 million 1,273 million 1,332 million Source Scottish Labour Market Trends May 2023 Stats Finland Labour Force Survey May 2023 Birth Registrations Scotland Finland = Q1 2023 14,991 13,800 out-birthed Finland by approx 7,94% or 1191 2022 46,959 44,951 out-birthed Finland by approx 4,28% or 2008 Source National Records of Scotland Births Stats Finland Vital Population Stats Births Scottish Maternity Grant £700 The Highest in the UK Free Scottish Baby Box over 250,000 given since 2017 Scottish Child Payment £1000 a year 303,000 parents receiving Free Early Learning & Childcare 30 hours per week Free School Meals Primary 1 to 5 Free Bus Travel for Under 22's over 62 million journeys since it started ScotRail recent fare reduction scheme to £1 for Weans UK Bedroom Tax Fully Mitigated by ScotGov Free University Tuition too Scots since 2008 Scottish NHS 24 has created a record over 250 new jobs since January. Plans revealed for Fort William's New Belford Hospital. Inverness National Treatment Centre opening this Month. Kirkcaldy National Treatment Centre opened in March. 14,5% Pay Rise Offer made to Scotland's Junior Doctors. Record Year for Heart Transplants by Scotland's NHS. Private Rent Rises in the year UK 4,7% Scotland Capped at 3% Proposals for Council Tax Increases of upto 100% for Second Homes, Empty Homes and Absentee Owners. Figures in January showed there were 42,865 long-term empty homes. The Visitor Levy Scotland Bill introduced to Parliament. If passed will give councils the power to apply a levy on stays in overnight accommodation based on a % of the accommodation cost. Cross-Border Caledonian Sleeper being brought into Scots Public Ownership this month by ScotGov. ScotRail brought into Scots Public Ownership in 2022. Carstairs Train Station in Lanarkshire reopened on 30th May New Fife Levenmouth Rail Link half way through construction New East Linton Rail Station in East Lothian in construction New Inverness Airport Rail Station in February 2023 Aberdeen rail station redevelopment opened in December 2022 Perthshire rail freight hub opened in 2022 Reston station in Borders opened in 2022 Glasgow rail engineering depot opened in 2022 New BioScience innovation hub opened in Aberdeen. New National Robotarium innovation hub opened in Edinburgh. New Medical Engineering innovation hub opened in Dundee. Worlds First achieved by a Scottish Energy Company by generating 50GWH of electricity from Tidal Power, in the Pentland Firth between Orkney & Mainland. ScotWind is the Worlds largest offshore wind leasing round. Construction starting soon in Argyll on new 420,000 hectare 2nd Cruachan Hyro-Electric power plant. (if planning consented by Scots Parliament.) New Electric Vehicle firm Munro Vehicles new MK1 4×4 starting production in East Kilbride this year. New Electric Vehicle firm HVS Systems is developing its hydrogen powered trucks in Glasgow. New Electric Vehicle firm Mako Aerospace developing worlds first all-electric jet engine in Fife. St Andrews University Scottish Hydrogen Train Project has tested the First Hydrogen Powered Train. Montrose Port is the first Scottish port to provide shore power to offshore energy vessels. New 125,000 sq ft Aberdeen South Port opened. Inward Investor German tech firm Merck is creating 500 new jobs in Glasgow & Stirling in biosafety testing, drug research & development, manufacturing and commercialisation. Inward Investor Japanese Cable Manufacturer Sumitomo Electric is to build new cable factory in the Highlands to make sub-sea high-voltage cables. Inward Investor Singaporean manufacturer Mooreast is to establish a manufacturing facility in Aberdeen for the production of subsea foundations. Inward Investor US Telecoms firm Mangata is opening its new Satellite manufacturing hub in Ayrshire. Inward Investor US Defence firm Raytheon is opening its new Anti Drone Laser manufacturing factory in Livingston. Inward Investor US IT firm Invisors has made European debut opening its new office in Glasgow. Inward Investor US Fintech firm Mirador Worldwide has opened its new office in Edinburgh. Inward Investor US Airline United Airlines has increased flights to Scotland following demand US Side. Inward Investor Taiwanese bike manufacturer Giant Bicycles has opened its 1st store in Scotland in Stirling. Inward Investor BT is building its new call centre facility in Dundee.

No, independence hasn't lost popularity. You can see that in separate polling on independence yes/no votes. The situations aren't comparable I don't think.

@@wintermiller4845yeah exactly, voters don’t say no to independence they say no to the SNP

99% of scotland is snp. did that mob u said get indy to

Desperate comparison. And wrong.

God bless the Constitution of the United States and its First Amendment.

Working class opinion.

@@keplermission4947 Ah, you mean the "elites" are completely bought into the oppression of speech? Interesting.

@@keplermission4947 As opposed to the functionless class opinion. 😄

Good thing too. We want the rule of law not rule of newspapers

As an English person, whilst I don’t want Scotland to leave I think evacuating a sinking ship is not the worst idea (even if I’m not on the lifeboat), so for your cause I’ll say… you’re not going to get independence.

I'm fed up to the back teeth with the celtic fringe. It's the English who need their independence. The Welsh Scots and Irish can all sod off

As a Scot living in England i'd just like to say hardly anyone down here gives a damn.

if it was a smart person slagging scotland id agree. but idiots. its insulting

@@jamesdeerwood146 whos the ship. england? plus if your english you need us to pay your bills put food on the table. an if your english. why would we ever keep use. about time use walked this earth broke an hungry

Scottish people deserve independence after Tory shit show for the past 13 years

😂😂

She was a very astute leader who managed to do a lot for the Scottish people with one hand tied behind her back, regardless of party politicts. I've lived through many governments and the only one that has benefitted Scotland was the SNP

She was a deceitful, self-serving arsehole.

That's one poll. The polls tend to bounce around quite a bit from poll to poll, you really need to look across multiple polls to get any true indication. So far in 2023 there have been 31 polls. All but 5 have "No" ahead (averaging around 5% across all polls). You also have to factor that the polls leading up to the 2014 referendum significantly underestimated support for "No" by around 8%.

@@eljay5009 better late to the party than never. Always good to have an expert in the room

@@keencyclist6134 Not an expert by any stretch - just somebody who can look at and consider more than one data point at a time. No individual poll taken in isolation will give an accurate picture of what is going on - that's why multiple polls are conducted over time. Of the polls conducted in 2023 to date - the averages results across all polls are as follows: Yes - 43% (+- 3.7%) No - 47% (+- 2.4%) Undecided - 8% (+-2.6%)

@@eljay5009 you also have to look at the people behind the pollsters who definitely have skin in the unionist game. They frame questions in a certain way to get a desired outcome. They hope that releasing polls which show support for the union will make those that support independence give up, or soft yessers, lose heart. Yet when you look at arguably the most trustworthy, comprehensive and by far the largest and most detailed of all the polls, the British social attitudes survey, the survey in 2022 showed 52% of Scots supported independence. The next one is due in October I think and that’s the one I’ll be paying attention to.

@@keencyclist6134 Interesting take. Isn't it odd then that prior to the 2014 referendum, the polls accurately predicted the Yes vote to within 1%, yet massively underestimated the No vote (they were about 8% out). If what you say had any merit - would you not expect the opposite?

So they can split the votes between them, and never gain any majority again. Yes that sounds like a excellent idea. Let me guess, You are English?

Needs a conservative populist independence party that can work in coalition with SNP and moderate their extreme left tendencies

​@@Tribuneoftheplebs lol stupid

@@Tribuneoftheplebs They already have a Christian fundamentalist wing in house?

@@tt-ew7rx and they are clearly being ignored if things like Nicola trying to allow male rapist into womens prisons is something she thinks she could do

she resigned cause that woke backlash from her saying about the guy going into a birds jail. they asked wat do you see him as. male or female. she said rapist. an your either english or a brain dead rangers fan. in 2014 she said were it went it was factually proven. they done it 3 more times to con the stupid. she could take a trillion out the scotish purse. we dont care..at least its going to an actual scottish person.. and scotland and freedom isnt there cause the snp.. they are there cause of us.. fk a party. dont care about the name. all of scotland is indy. call your party anything. we gave them there job. they never gave us anything.

Do you know where baroness Mone put the millions out of the taxpayers pockets during the pandemic? No neither do we. Sort that out before meddling.

You must be a Sinn fienner since you probably don’t understand how the economy works

There is no change to be had the English are fascists by their nature and will never cede complete hegemony on power. You as an Irish nationalist should know this.

Agreed people forget that Irish nationalist politics stumbled a number of times all the way up until the late 1900’s early 1910’s with the success in obtaining the plan for home rule until curtailment of the plan due to world war one which leads into the Easter Rising and war of independence.

It's a hard one. If the UK becomes a federalised system with major aconomy even more than US states I feel it will last. If the tories stay in power then these things are more likely. A united Ireland would only happen if there was major devolved powers to the north.

I hope so

No is currently leading though, and will increase when the tories leave government. Also people are realising that Scottish trade will be hammered if they join the EU and the rest of the UK is outside of the customs Union. 70% of Scottish imports go to the rest of the UK. Its only going to decrease as more people realise this.

The desire of short-sighted self-destruction.

@@mcr2356 we're not debating the pros and cons of independence are we.

@@TheMarineGamerIGGHQ not relevant to the topic at hand is it.

@@ab-ym3bf Read the title of the video. You also need a political party as the vehicle to action it. This video is fair.

Yes, the south of England was built on our wealth, the North gained nothing, and Scotland, well, it gained food banks

It was as recent as Tony Blair who redrew the sea borders in England’s favour, with no mandate. An independent Scotland would own fishing and renewable energy rights up the wazoo.

They are even building wind turbines on land in Scotland to export electricity to England. The English do not allow land based wind turbines..

You just follow the skyscrapers - they're not in Aberdeen or Edinburgh.

So you wan to stop being ruled by London and instead be ruled by Brussels?

I feel like this is one of those Chinese/Russian bots

@@gebirg1 more brexit mongs rolling out the propaganda

Gebirg a confederation rather than a centralised union

Polls for support have dropped to 39% three times in the last three months compared to a total of zero times the whole of last year. Independence is not popular, especially since ad it says in the video brexit is becoming less of an issue

why. there 99% of scotland. an we dont know english people

If they want to keep spreading the word about independence, they need to point out the benefits of leaving the UK.

@@gerardflynn7382 And who's talking about the benefits of remaining in the UK? Nobody, because there are none.

The only folk it sends asleep are already in a stupor of ignorance. The rest of us see that the whole system needs a boot up the arse... and that will only happen with a fresh new start via independence.

taking words from 99% of scotland. good on u skid

Of which 533 are English MP and 59 are Scots MP. Voters in Scotland are effectively locked out by Voters in England from ever effecting anything. = Westminster is England's Parliament and England's politics.

Pretty much the england-centric view that slowly erodes support for the union every day 😊

I agree that 60%+ would be conclusive in a referendum. But that means a very long wait: pro-independence votes showing more than 50% are rare enough now, and are usually followed by 2-3 polls showing unionism above 50%. Bad news for Scotland-indefinite deadlock and endless constitutional navel-gazing. Good luck!

If they said independence is strong you would have believed him. If he says it’s not doing well then it is “bias” you Brits are sp@z’s lol .

Considering 'relative' in this case means 'relative to Johnson and Truss', why wouldn't they consider Sunak and Starmer 'relative moderates'?

Relative to alternatives in the SNP too. Forbes and Reagan

Any evidence for that? I can prove your wrong on that, the polls don’t lie.

@@raggedcritical because they aren’t seen as moderates relative to wales, to Scotland and to any other country in Western Europe. The only comparisons is that Labour look radically right wing for a Labour Party and the conservatives look radically right wing for a Conservative Party. I think if you actually talk to Scottish people, you will find that there is one reason that the independence vote has reduced. This scandal killed any feeling of hope. It’s hopeless. Why would anything get better? Everyone in politics is rubbish. Life won’t get better. What’s the point. I think it’s an unfair point of view, not only is the SNP scandal relatively small in comparison to even the smallest Westminster scandals of recent times, but the fact that the police are investigating is a sign that Scottish institutions work. Where there is power, there will be corruption. Scotland seems to have a police force that can handle it. But I digress. This feeling of hopelessness is so acute. Labour and the conservatives have added to this hopelessness, they haven’t reduced it.

@@jameshobson6965 How have Labour added to the hopelessness? They had bugger-all power to affect anything, and according to polling they are the ones gaining on the SNP as it flails about rather than another independence party.

One recent poll had independence below 40%.

I don't really get what you mean, does Scotland have the right to secede or not? What is laughable here?

@@Tsuruchi_420 The question is legitimate, but the SNP's submissions to the Supreme Court barely rose to the comical, dismissed unanimously by all the judges

@@FranzBieberkopf so,the answer is "almost definitely not"?

@@Tsuruchi_420 it does not have the right to run a referendum without permission from the Westminster government.

@@Tsuruchi_420 The answer is "Not without the consent of the UK government". That was enshrined in the 1998 Scotland Act, the legal underpinning for the Scottish Parliament-and the SNP voted for that act.

There are many with regrets that's for sure

@Icarus 7c that has already happened in the UK anyway.

People predicted outright economic collapse of Ireland due to independence Éammon De Valera and Bertie Ahern did not help.

I think the issue is competent governance. Scotland would not be so strongly in favor of it if Westminster had been competent. Of course, over the past few years, they haven’t been.

The No Voters are poorer for their own decision.

What utter bollocks

More economically moderate than truss

​@Connor Magnall so is a lettuce

its an english court. there nothing to us

Labour abstained from the vote on the Tories extending their anti strike bill too Scotland. What are Labour for?

And people don't care as much.

Agreed I just used a site called fact checker it took me 10 mins to find out it was an Scot Nat site.

wat?

@@walkaboutgla Crivens it's the Broons.

your saying that like its athing. were off

All these pro union vids do is further our determination to leave.

I hope for scotlands sake you're wrong.

Exactly independence voters are still there many of them have just switched to labour and lib dem

Hope UK gets partitioned like they did to India.

I can see the whole UK rejoining the EU and shortly after that Scottish independence. As soon as the economic factor is removed by ensuring Scotland and the rUK remain in the same single market the no position is heavily weakened and the sovereignty and politics become the dominant factors which the yes side has the advantage.

Hit what nail. It's easy to debunk just about every unverified claim in this "post for pay" KZfaq video. I'll prove it with the most damning claim, Scotland's drug deaths being the highest in Europe. There is absolutely no evidence Scotland has the highest number of drug deaths in Europe, because there are no other nations in Europe that post comparable figures. England, for example, only reports recent drug poisonings, which doesn't explain why all four of its major cities are reporting record number of drug related deaths, which has risen year on year. Well done you, accepting unverified claims as fact.

The English are too selfish to ever give the rest of us a day. Colonialist oppressor is your nature !

@Breakthechochamber no 50% of the people in Scotland are against it but when you consider the English that live there it’s less 50% 🤪. The oppressors are always going to vote for their oppressive interests

People should look at the history of Irish nationalism in terms of it advanced politically I.E the slow way

@Breakthechochamber look up the definition of ‘oppression’ and you see quite clearly “unfair authority over” so genius how are England not oppressing Scotland ? Of England wanted an independence referendum they would get it 100% of the time, the same isn’t true for Scotland therefore ‘unfair authority’. That’s just one example 😉

@Breakthechochamber Well, "about 50%" of the vote really doesn't matter much if the other choice gets even slightly more, as we found out the hard way with a certain referendum a while back. As for economic havoc, while I'm genuinely not sure there could be any more havoc right now considering the UK's current position, I know better than to tempt fate nowadays. Unlike the Brexit vote, however, I have a certain amount of faith in the Scottish politicians to at least have some coherent plans of action regardless of how a second independence referendum goes.

fx england. fx wales fx northan island. irelands goverment is older than england. wales an northen ireland will be bk to us. if you dont know scotland has the best eduction system in the world best health care in the world. you live in england. an thats with less than 4% of our annual wealth

No there won’t be any vids about that. Mainly because Scotland has a superior healthcare and education system. Next?

they are struggling in left wing spaces because anyone whos read the ford report knows that modern labour is just the red tory-lite party, they dont even support the thing they where named after, labour unions, anymore

That's because Starmer is right wing

you do know you can jump on google. labour is dead next vote cause he shouted indy an turned.. snp are 99% of scottish votes. scotland is not in the uk. were scotland from scotland an were scottish. i know your english cause thats the shxt english news says to morons of england. snp has never lost a voter only doubled

Ha be to inform you there is no taste in Scotland for Labour we are pro EU , Starmer is not. Our general politics is of a socialist basis. That last tiny pro labour vote result was set up to sway us back to them. It won’t work. Just watch.

Independence is International Norm. 195 Independent Nations in the World.

Yes a social union but not political union. Yes EU Membership if thats what the people want.

Not talked about in the MSM

@@lesleyrobertson5465 Labour membership also rocketed under Corbyn - this didn't stop Labour being crushed in the 2019 election.

It doesn't have to be said.

@@stephenelkington4971 Brexit and the bogus antisemitism nonsense did that.

@@andrewelliott4436 it does as some people just assume guilt. Johnson was fined btw

we call that an echo chamber

@@MrWassup45 You are highly likely from 1 of the 65 other Countries that gained Independence from Westminster.

@@ScottishRoss27 And it was a massive fucking mistake

Why do people think the eu will save them? News flash the eu has moved on and times change. Europe is a basket case with Germany now admitting recession. Also Scotlands economy will not meet the requirements for entry unless it does a Greece and lies about it! There is also currency and the border to consider none of which have an easy answer with no politician coming up with a solution. Beggars belief!

Just because you want it doesn;t mean you will get it.

​@@Breakthechochamberwhat facts? Yes ultimately as he said wait and see.....

@Breakthechochamber Naive comment!. SNP voters/members are no more or less reluctant to take criticism of their party that members of other parties.

You can't undermine a desire that has been withering since it's birth.

Ipsos Mori Scottish Political Monitor May 2023 Independence Voting Intention Yes 53% No 47% Westminster Voting Intention SNP 41% Greens 3% Labour 29% Torie 17% Liberal 6% Holyrood Constituency 1st Vote Voting Intention SNP 42% Greens 4% Labour 28% Torie 17% Liberal 7%

yes because scottish seats have always determined the outcome for westminster elections, they couldnt possibly have only mattered in labour minority governments which were then overturned via snap elections!

Starmer isn't trusted in England and much less in Scotland, labour may gain a small amount but at the cost of the tories, people no longer see labour as part of Scotland

@@firebyrd437 Why is Starmers Labour party in coalition with Tories in Local Councils all over Scotland?

@@legopenguin9 Labour have only been UK Government 24 years of last 68 years. 36% of the time. Labour have not been in government 64% of the time.

Aye.

It's practically economic suicide, just shows how daft people can be that it is still even slightly popular. Reality is that it is an emotional protest vote by low information voters. There's a reason they wanted to extend the vote to 16 year olds.

If the SNP weren't so corrupt and changed their trans bill then they'd get my vote

@@llanieliowe794 Not corrupt and majority of All Parties voted in favour of the GRR Bill.

@@ScottishRoss27 If a partie's leader is purposely not using the finances for that party correctly, and using it to their own benefit, then that's corrupt.. And that's exactly what Sturgeon and her husband did. Also the trans bill was blocked by the UK government for being so radical and putting women in danger so I think you'll find that not every party agrees with it.

@@llanieliowe794 Any proof? The next human rights bill Scotland's Parliament is to bring forward is UN Convention on the Elimination of All Forms of Discrimination Against Women Incorporation Scotland Bill. Will UKgov block that bill too as like Trans people in Scotland the UKgov won't want to take into account the rights of Women in Scotland when UKgov is legislating ? In 2021 The UKgov also blocked The UN Right of the Child Incorporation Scotland Act, showing its hand as UKgov did not want to take into account the rights of Children in Scotland when UKGov is legislating. This is acceptable to you?

No one is trying to separate blood, we are separating political power.

Housing is a Devolved matter in Scotland and nothing to do with politicians in England.

@Breakthechochamber Snp are more social democracy, in line with the majority of the people in Scotland, as its a left leaning voting nation.

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The SNP are a devolutionist party and have been since sturgeon took over. Alba are for total independence.

Essentially the SNPs tactic since the referendum has been to try and build support for independence in the long term. Even when they were denied a referendum, they knew that would happen and it was an opportunity to highlight that in what is supposed to be a nation of equals, a government voted in by England can deny other countries the opportunity to leave. Alba kind of does the same thing at a smaller scale. They know they'll never be voted in so they pretend that if they were they would immediately demand independence negotiations with London (I believe essentially using the general election as a de facto referendum). But it's grandstanding and just a way to criticise the SNP. They also have an issue with trans people. Very into 'protecting women,' under the leadership of a man who was barred from being left alone with women civil servants 🤷‍♀️

@@JoannaSmilesLots Alba: *sides with the absolute majority of the public about gender id reform* SNPtards: "These people have something against trans people!" galaxy brain

​@@Jonabob87 you are incorrect- but you beat trans folk right?

Wtf are you talking about? Scotland basically has autonomy where they run all the key parts of their country like education, healthcare and social policies AND on top of that they get to send MPs to the U.K. parliament that basically legislates England! So they even have a say on what we do in England! On top of that they have 30% more funding per person despite actually paying far less tax per person than England! How they getting the bad deal here?

What a load of sh**. Scotland leaving would be beneficial for the other home nations as they are designated far more tax revenue than they pay, more or less as a bribe to stay in the UK.

Correct to a degree but it must be pointed out that Ireland was never a willing partner in the UK, union with Britain was gradually and forcibly imposed on Ireland against the will of the native Irish and then it was formalised by the Act Of Union in 1801 by Anglo Irish and English gentry.

Scotland and Ireland are completely incomparable. Ireland was a colony and Scotland is a willing member.

​@@Witnessmoo if you believe the bull you are spouting ask yourself this . Why is Westminster fighting so hard to keep it . Simple angerland gets 60% of all Scots taxes even with Barnet Scots are billed 8% of all major angerland projects IE cross rail ,HS2;, M25 , when angerland is prepared to keep all its dangerous stuff IE nuclear waste nuclear armaments .and subs its own land you can argue untill then I advise you go do some research to see who is being ripped off

EU is more modern and a federation not centralised in 1 nation like UK

@@ScottishRoss27 Probably very true and looking at the amount of corruption and the state of things at this present time. Hope we never become like the warmongering USA with there lobbying system which is openly exploited by the wealthy organisations for corruption.

were smarter than you. voting snp greens alba gives us indy. joining eu gives us world court law to jail the english. we never voted snp uther than indy.use idiots keep on saying the people we gave the jobs to for indy. we dont care who. we only care wat. we in scotland hate english with a passion

I look forward to the Scot’s leaving. The English will feel sad at first and then when we get all our money back that we give away to Scotland we will be absolutely chuffed and wonder why didn’t we kick you out decades ago.

@@Witnessmoo Uh huh... Cool story bro but the 3 Billiy goats gruff rang and want the tired troll narrative of the little-Englander with a chip on their shoulder back.

​@@Witnessmoo I think you'll miss the 75 billion pounds that the oil companies are contributing...much coming from the North Sea. Let alone the 40 billion that Scotland already hands over to Westminster!

@Breakthechochamber You're probably right in some regards, certainly I don't think the SNP are supported due a perception of them being radical lefties by any means, but at least they can claim they already have moved some way towards some degree of greater economic emancipation (tution fees, pharmacy first, widening access free(er) public transport). These are seen as a step in the right direction. Nor do they use FPTP in the Scottish elections. That in turn means for anyone with more left-ish senibilities, the greens can act as a force to temper any centerist tendencies of the executive. Their electoral results are more democratic, and frankly given the pantomime at Westminster, seen as more responsible despite however this financial fiasco turns out in the end. I would not discount the roots of a lot of the boomer/gen-x SNP support & strength come from ex-labour voters (and indeed politicians who jumped ship due to Blair) who grew up diametrically opposed to Thatcher/New Labour neoliberal economic policies and the chaos they have ultimately unleashed on the uk economy. Also, for a variety of reasons, a significant majority of even very soft SNP voters under the age of 50 are likely to have a stronger pro-EU than a Blairite/New Labour counterpart in England.

​@@somecuriosities Scotland has always been a left leaning country. The SNP has introduced left leaning policies whilst having one hand tied behind its back. The SNP is a broad church, but it's the only real party of independence that's big enough to vote for if you favour independence. Labour under Starmer isn't going to change anything because he's certainly not left wing. Looking at what he says and how he's stopping left wing candidates from being even on the long list as candidates I'd say he's pretty right wing. Independence is a cause that once done will dissolve the SNP and new Scottish parties will have to form