If you see someone compare Snyder to Kubrick, you've found a Snyder cultist.

The most ironic thing is that Zack Snyder and James Gunn are actually good friends in real life. Like, they even collaborated on a movie that is widely considered one of Snyder’s best movies. Snyder cultists not even giving Gunn a chance for this new DCU is just poetically tragic at this point.

You didn’t even get into their weirdest behavior, the whole “Snyder is the blueprint” thing. The crazy mfs think that Guardians of the Galaxy 3 ripped off Zack Snyder because a character yelled and there was a one take fight scene.

I seen somebody on Twitter say that Batman v Superman was the greatest cbm of all time and that’s when I knew these people were delusional 😂😂

when people say "i believe he's a really good guy", people don't know shit about Zack, they just scared to piss the cultist

Yeah, as a Snyder fan who has loved most of what he's put out, I find it really fucking weird how they worship him. He's just a movie director. Also a big fan of Gunn and looking forward to what he does with Superman. There's room to love both.

Dude thank you lmao. These Snyder fans’ inability to be open minded makes me so mad. But this video.. Sums up all of my feelings toward DC fandom nowadays.

The Snyder Cult is one of the things that truly DISGUSTS me on the internet. I don't think that Zack Snyder is a good director, but I can confidently say that I thoroughly enjoyed his Justice League movie, and the reason being is that I thought it worked as an Elseworlds version of the team I love so much. Just because I liked the movie doesn't mean I need to go around and yelling at people who don't like it, because that isn't cool. These are like the people that criticize anything Star Wars nowadays without even viewing the project in question. To those who like to think that Man of Steel, Batman v Superman, and Justice League form the greatest comic book movie trilogy, then that's fine. Like what you like. It doesn't say anything bad about you. However, if someone disagrees with you, don't give them a hard time just because you can. Before I end this off, there are much better trilogies under the DC name. The DCAU Trilogy with Batman, Superman, and Justice League (Unlimited), The Dark Knight Trilogy, The Arkham Trilogy, and even (to a certain extent at this point [IMO]) the Crisis on Infinite Earths Trilogy. While I can appreciate those who like Zack's work, I cannot agree with how they showcase their "love".

All it took was the Studio to make one bad decision, and Zach Snyder has become a God!

He literally had 100% control for rebel moon 1-2 and look at those absolute garbage heaps of movies.

Over the past few days I've seen Snyder cultists blindly hate on Guardians 3. Not only coming with the lamest excuses as to why the entire trilogy is "bad" but also hoping the movie suffers in its second week. I'm by no means putting all my hope into James Gunn, but the man clearly has a knack for writing loveable characters and especially turning obscure/forgotten characters into household names. He's on a solid streak.

Snyder is not the best director but he isn't the worst one. Hating him or loving him is weird because we don't know him or who he really is.

I like Zach Synder but I don’t like his DCEU, and I don’t really put the blame on him tho I feel like WB rushed in to BVS bc Civil War was coming out, and I feel his approach to storytelling isn’t good for the dcu, he’s too nihilistic which I feel could work as a else world Superman trilogy in the vain as TDK trilogy, but in a fully fledged dc universe he’s need to be optimistic to have a baseline of morality for the other heroes

This needs a million views man great job

I still remember a month ago i found a post where they said James gunn's superman will not or can't beat zack snyder's scene where zod fighting superman in metropolis. Bruh we barely see anything from james gunn's superman and somehow they are having this future foresight where nothing he made will top a scene where superman fighting zod and barely trying to prevent the destruction of metropolis. And then they brought up the whole superman logo from Gunn's superman and said it looks like the SS Nazi logo like bruh

The Snyder Cult exists because KZfaqrs like Midnight's Edge and Geeks & Gamers promote them.

I’m a person who enjoyed Man of Steel, I have my issues with some things, but overall I enjoy it . I agree there is a Snyder Cult and it’s hard to watch…and annoying lol

Zack Snyder legit ripped off the COD Zombies lore by making Army Of The Dead by implying there is a time loop and alien involvement. What's next? Dave Bautista fighting a Lovecraftian entity?

Great video You had a lot of rational and valid points. I don’t understand the Snyder & to some extend the Cavill worshipping. As if Zack Snyder is the only director in existence who’s capable of making a DC film. Just like how the Snyder cultists hated/hates Gunn for letting go of Henry Cavill Cavill isn’t the only actor capable of playing Superman We’ve had a lot of great actors playing Supes in the past, hell we had Christopher Reeve who’s still a fan favourite, just like Sean Connery as James Bond. We even have a great Superman actor with Tyler Hoechlin on Superman & Lois in my opinion So to me, the character is more important than the actors playing them, and I won’t judge Superman Legacy yet, but I’m going to see it, cause I love Superman The best thing we can do is be open minded to everything going forward

Joss whedon got threw under the bus bro he is a amazing director and producer

Dude I actually don’t think it’s a stretch to say James Gunn and Zack Snyder are in totally different leagues it’s like comparing Kevin smith to Ridley scott. U could say clerks is a way better movie than body of lies but you’d be referring to the movies’ respective abilities to fulfill their own respective intentions. Basically you have the guy who does the one basic thing he set out to do *okay* and you have the other guy who is trying to do a whole lot to subjective degrees of success. The only reason to say James Gunn is a better director than Zack Snyder is to affirm that he’s safer, more pedestrian

Mangold doesn’t rile up his fans. Frak ZS.

As a fan of the Snyderverse, I can understand why some people hate on the movies. They're gritty, dark, and depressing with a dash of hope at the end (more like the smallest pinch of hope at times). They're not for everyone, but they're very well put together for the audience they are intended for. That said, James Gunn's reboot of the DCEU will fail tremendously because he is not the God of directors, Zack Snyder. Praised be. -Just gonna say that last bit was sarcasm because too many people don't know what sarcasm looks like when it's staring them in the face-

love snyder and most of his films and prefer them over the mcu stuff , love the guardians films , bvs ultimate is one of my fav films ever

Comic book accurate (costumes or anything) does not make movie good it can be even worse. Xmen 2 didnt have accurate costumes or characters canon and is still one of the best superhero movies.

I do like his three movies (especially his Batman outfit design) but yeah he’s not the great director and I’m really looking for to James Gunn’s DC slate in the future.

im happy to admit that i like MOS and ZSJL, but his fans are so insufferable it makes me dislike those movies lol

Good video

I think the SnyderVerse would've turned out better if it was presented as a DC Elseworlds project.

This perfectly encapsulates what is wrong with Snyder fans. They have a blatant refusal to acknowledge the subjective nature of movies, or to accept that Snyder has any flaws, it's like they close their eyes and block their ears whenever someone is talking bad about the dude, without even for one moment considering the evidence or perspective put forth by his detractors. I love Kevin Smith movies, they have been a massive part of my life since I was 13 years old and watching Mall Rats on VHS for the first time, but it doesn't mean I don't think Yoga Hossers was gold 😂. You lose all credibility when you blindly follow any artist and think they can do no wrong

I thought MoS was ok. It had flaws but I thought it was a solid enough start to carry forward from. And then, omfg, they carried forward :( And Cavill has all the charisma of a vanilla 2x4.

snyder is a really bad director. his movies are just horrible

You want to make a good alternative to Marvel with DC. Then portray the characters correctly!!

I hate Batfleck as much as I hate Snyder Superman

I'll take the "Joss-tice League" over the Snyder Cut every time.

I am a snyder fan, currently working on a fan made project based on his cancelled projects, but I ain't one of those ppl who keeps begging netflix to own the snyder cut

Snyder fan right here..I love all the DC movies that Snyder did especially Man of Steel, Batman v Superman, and Justice League. I don't click with any of the movies Gunn has done because they're just too goofy that's why I'm not looking forward to anything he has coming.

How come no one ever mentions the charitable the Snyderverse fans have done. They raised a lot of money for suicide prevention.

I recognized some of those Pokémon songs

Just saying, Nolan is not that much different than Snyder...

I got into it once with a Snyder fan. It was over Man of Steel. I brought up the fact that Zack didn't like comics. He was more into Watchmen because of the adult themes. This is why it's his first comic book movie, and people don't like to talk about it. I don't know why. It's a great movie that Zack made. Anyway, he also threw a piece of info at me that I was 1000% prepared for. He said that Zack got into heavy metal and had to walk away from comics for a while. I instantly knew that was Gerard Way's words from his launch of Umbrella Academy. Because Gerard is an actual musician. These people are fucking nuts.

because zack snyder gaslight them, no other director does that, his a clown, just like kevin smith

i would say i am a big fan of Gunn, Snyder, Villeneuve, Scott, The Russos, Reeves, Stahelski and Leitch but i have been disappointed by some of them before.

I think there are always the "extreme" on any side of the equation. There are people who love Marvel movies despite how just God awful they've been since IMO Infinity War. I think many Snyder fans are just defensive because there's always this very loud chorus of people that just can't wait to slam the guy - some of it seems quite contrived in my opinion. For example his latest release Rebel Moon - I actually thought part one was good but very choppy (which is my typical reaction to the "Snyder got edited" version) and Part 2 - I really liked. However, the reactions from people who hate Snyder were just over the top of my opinion. I generally have really appreciated the Zack DC movies - and before that I absolutely loved Watchmen and 300. I really like the university had created and wanted to see more . That being said, I'm looking forward to James Gunn's DC universe but I will miss the DCEU

Channels like yours keep me sane. I keep seeing a channel promoting ZSJL like it’s gonna happen. 😂

Well Birds of Prey wasn’t from Snyder. That was Walter Hamada being woke

Their hatred of Gunn, im gonna say this as honest truth, You can replace Gunn with anyone outside of Snyder/Nolan/Matt Reeves but without a doubt these Snyder snobs would give that person the same kind of hatred they are giving Gunn now. Replace Gunn with someone else, Snyder Cult are gonna whine to the heavens and insult them like Gunn, WB replaces them too with someone else and you'll get the same results from Snyder Fans each time. Because they wanna dwell on something dead and never gonna make a comeback. In the slightest chance it did, WB is just gonna lose more money listening to them once again. Honestly, this is common sense being seen. Snyder moved on to other projects but his fans cannot do the same,lol

4:20 name of the song please

7:47 He's okay. Just never been in anything I actually love.

Shout out to Jodys Corner for making the term “Snyder Cult”

Bvs is a masterpiece ,rewatch

This man be spitting facts 💯👍🏿👍🏿

It seems like you are assuming anyone that supports Snyder are blindly doing it, or in a cult. That is obviously not true and honestly way too extreme of an opinion dude lol. This really just seems like sensationalism and you have tunneled your vision into a silo like twitter for your vetting of overall analysis. You brought up James Gunn, go look up his pedo tweets from 2010. I personally like Snyder movies with a few exceptions. One of the best parts about the Snyder cut of Justice League was that he dedicated it to his daughter. He said he wanted to make something she might have liked. The Snyder cut did something not often achieved where the director ended up having full creative control and released the total vision, that's why it was so long. It was awesome though. The Josh Whedon cut was hot garbage. Snyder had left the set earlier because of his daughter and couldn't finish the movie. ... Batman vs Superman was exactly like the Frank Miller comic I read when I was younger. Man of Steel was badass. just my 2 cents additionally, cinematic universe always is a combination of new creative direction on top of the foundation of source material. it's not just one or the other. You also default to the same argument each time, with no evidence or analytic basis, saying people that like a snyder movie are a cult. It's pretty degrading and unnecessary imo. It's also lazy in terms of a debate. SO you don't like some of these movies. That's all I see you have presented, I didn't hear 1 thing you provided that explains why. And it's not a cult if they aren't coordinating with each other in a system of organization around a religion or figure. You are misusing the word cult lol.

I really like Matt Reeves' take on Batman. I don't care what the Snyder Cult thinks.

I am by no means a person that thinks all Snyder's movies are great but his justice league was epic

ALL of his movies are bad. Some less than others.

Sucker Punch is his best movie in my personal opinion. I dont even get much a kick out of 300 🤷‍♂️

I don't condone hating on people for whatever reason, but I've genuinely never seen more hate for anyone than Zack Snyder. I've seen multiple dozen comments calling him "Hack Snyder" and I've even seen people say that they're glad his daughter died. From what I've seen online, I'd say there's a bigger Snyder hating cult.

I can save everyone 12 minutes the "cult" was formed when it became fashionable to mock snyder bash his movies and fans which really jumped into high gear for 2013 man of Steel, when bullying and gaslighting the fans of the moves grew to an all time high in the josstice league era. Everyone complains about the problem they created, from screen rant to Collider it was acceptable to attack Zack Snyder and co and it was unexpected that the fans did not cower and take it and apologize but instead they became hardened and ferocious. Honestly I love it bc it makes ppl think twice about bullying and jumping on a bandwagon. Most ppl suffer from group think, oh Michael Bay sucks! Clooney bat nipples hur! hur! Oh snyder is a hack he fundamentally doesn't understand comics marthaaa! You're snyder fan not a DC fan ...

Bro Snyder had been gone for years and now platforms like yours can’t keep this man name or the fans out of your mouth! Deal with it bro! 😆😆😆

Thanks for working Big Red COD Lover in there.

Wait so we can't be passionate about Snyderverse or show support if we do then we're considered to be a cult.

I Agree with you on that statement!

The cult started with batman vs superman theres alot of deeper meaning in the movie that people are passionate about.

I like Zack Snyder. I don't like all of his films. I loved Man of Steel because I thought it was a comic-accurate Superman depiction (of his character, not the story), just not Christopher Reeve-accurate. Superman is quite lonely, at first. And there are multiple interpretations of the character in comics. Superman kills Zod in the comics, too. Batman v Superman was a poor theatrical cut. The extended addition was quite enjoyable, however both have a very good performance from Affleck as a far too murderous Batman. The theatrical Justice League was utter crap, but that was Whedon's fault. The Snyder cut was amazing. I don't like 300, I love Watchmen. I don't care for most of the rest of Snyder's films. I LOVE Matt Reeves' The Batman. I am very much looking forward to the rebooted DC Universe and am really looking forward to The Flash film. I'd have liked to have seen Snyder complete his vision with a 4th and 5th film. However, my main goal is to see a successful DC Cinematic Universe. I believe we have more of a chance of that under James Gunn.

6:13 depends on what you expect to look when you heard that. "humble hero" i think his reserved persona speak the loudest. also - 1st Scene with Clark in DCEU, leaves Job to save oil rig workers. (even saves the rescue helicopter) - helps in different jobs. - as a reporter shows interest in helping the little guys - when criticised by media, clark just phonecalls his mom. ♥ you could say.. but THE IM AM JESUS SCENES! THE I AM JESUS SCENES RUINED HIM! here's the funny thing about... the comics show he's a messianic figure, meaning , in the sense the he's kind of a chosen one! (and Clark is quite aware of his power above other heroes) and weirdly enough, some Dc fans too: weird when they say "Superman is NOT a religious figure" and the same time say "he's the ultimate expression of Goodness". Superman / Clark Kent... He isnt Spiderman (with almost infinite power, comes almost infinite responsibility) , he isnt Batman. Superman doesnt act like a cop, POWER doesnt corrupt Superman. Tho in comics The use of power has corrupted Batman in different occassions. Superman is a rescuer. and.. thats what he does in the DCEU. Him going to visit a school is as Superman. as him leaving job to save a mexican girl. ....... SURE STILL SuperCavill is an alternative version of Sups sure, but man.. with all due respect, You got this a bit wrong. IT IS still adapting from the core of the comics. (just in a way you dont empathise much... which imo is okey.. but i think you could gain something by learning a little from those others that did empathised for good reasons) About #DCU i think Gunn will do well. and i bet consdering he knows how to be more expressive, will play better with audiences. he'll deliver something you & many others will enjoy alot.

well i love all his movies does that make me a cult member

Snyder's known flops would be 300, Sucker Punch, Watchmen. I agree on what you say on James Gunn. Snyder Cult are flat out boycotting every DC movie Not directed by Snyder, Nolan & Matt Reeves . Why i know this, Example is Aaron Fisher and people like him being Toxic Negativity Spreaders. They all want to compare DC heroes to Nolan's Batman for the sake of Dark/Gritty and realism & because of his trilogy, they think that's the success idea for any DC character no matter who their name is. Wrong, simply Wrong! Superman is the flipside of Batman like so many, many DC heroes. Nolan's Batman is good because of the way he made those films and Batman is easiest/most popular DC character to do it. So Snyder Fans, let's take what Nolan did, and make every single DC hero just like Nolan's Batman. Nolan's was involved in MOS, so that says it all! Snyder doesnt care to be apart of a big DCEU anyways, after JLU Snyder Cut, he was gonna be done. So after 5 Snyder directed movies, thats it. Aaron Fisher and many Snyder fans say it themselves. They're being toxic by boycotting every DC movie not directed by Snyder, The Flash, Aquaman 2 not yet released and already being trashed Before it's release over a trailer???? Same thing BlueBeetle, They're saying anything/everything about Gunn & WB to see that DCU Does Not Happen.

Every fandom that has a "hardcore" fans among there fandoms, will have people in sade fandom that takes things too far. The thing is you can just point out one fandom for this. When you think Snyder fans are cult like. Just look at other fandoms who even takes things wierder than Snyder fans. Look at K-pop fans, etc. Etc. Heck remember how people labeled James Gunn/GoG 3 as something that will "save" MCU.

You said dat u love most of Gunn film. But its a no for me. Im the opposite. Did not like most of his film. And his humor didnot land for me. I felt cringe tho. And The Suicide Squad r Great? Hell nah. Its a hot garbage. And i agree some of ur opinion.

I love MOST of his movies . BVS UE is my favorite movie of all time and after that it’s the other 2 ( MOS and ZSJL) . I don’t generally like comics although I appreciate the artwork talent. Then there’s 300 and Watchmen which are also probably in my top 15 flicks ever. Guardians is an entertaining movie to me due to the animation . I actually like ( don’t love )Sucker Punch for what it is.Its fine. I’m not into zombie flicks so I’m not big on Army or Dawn. Rebel Moon part 1 and 2 I couldn’t believe what I was watching. But I’m confident in directors cut. Weird though

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4:52 Every MCU project, new or old, felt/feels half baked to me. Ironman was great. The rest was kinda meh.

Batman vs superman setup all the most dark stories of dc. Robin suit,batman killing it made u wanted to see more batman, lex luthor truthly hate god not superman but the closest thing ti god was superman. Im over synder films but i understand his movies and fanbase they see the potential in his vision because it dies still have potential. James gunn a better look

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It kinda all comes down to how him and his hardcore fans have a huge misunderstanding of what healthy masculinity is. In other words, this is a blatant case of ACTUAL toxic masculinity

😅 bro you made a video about Zack. You have to hold a BIG L 😂😂😂😂

Ok to be honest u sound like a James Gunn cult defender. James Gunn is legit creative. I will give him dat. But Zynder Justoce League was the turning point. They should have let him finish the trilogy, "Mic drop" PS. Batman VS Superman was trash

Y’all are the hater cult 🤣🤣🤣 Hate cult

I think changing comic to screen is fine, but when it comes to story and minor changes to character. These books have lasted as long as they have because the PERSON is compelling. I really like Echo in the comics, recognizing that she’s basically taskmaster’s power set, but the show just changed it all and turned it mystical and I find I just can’t enjoy it as much. Is the show bad? No. But it ain’t good either.

Only director who has knocked it out of the park EVERY TIME is David Fincher. I love Alien 3 and I know that controversial. BUT I also recognize that this conversation is subjective. Its opinion. It’s art. It’s mine.