Honestly? Probably ego trip.

That's textbook narcissism baby!

She said it to him.

@@spencerwattamaniuk950exactly

World would have been a much better place if they had...

😂😂😂😂 thats savage

​@@tomace4898 ya that's no joke dude Myspace was so much better we didn't deserve Tom. He never put us in Facebook jail we could post music on our page, design and customize our pages, and he stayed out of politics. Not to mention Myspace didn't consume our lives it was fun but you weren't constantly checking it. I still remember when KZfaq used to be fun and cool and we got away with uploading movies all the time nowadays you can't even post a comment that might be considered offensive or have "bad words" in it like we're children oh and the hid the video ratings bar.

@@rc59191That hide the dislikes on KZfaq is the biggest farce ever. If a video is bad let me see, hiding it just demonstrates how weak society is

^ The dislike bar was hidden solely because CNN, MSNBC etc were getting their videos on Trump dislike bombed. They could not accept it so JewTube was pressured into removing the dislike bar. That is literally the sole reason it was removed.

Ya they would've been more successful at convincing Mark if they simply treated him as an equal rather than pretending to be some savior. They even met Mark in their Club's bikeroom, symbolizing that Mark will never be "in" under their wing. As Winklevoss's lawyer even tells Mark later that the Winklevoss were clearly interested in the Facebook idea and would've been willing to invest as much money as needed(they understood how much it was valued even though Harvard's president clearly didn't) but Mark didn't want to be under their wing and wanted autonomy which he could get with Eduardo. This movie does a great job portraying young people with strong egos

they didn't pretend, they mentioned it as a side effect of working with them. a business relationship with social benefits. nothing manipulative about that.

It's also a callback to the opening scene when he tells Erica that if he gets into certain final clubs he will introduce her to people she wouldn't normally get to meet. Her response is the same.

Its called offering value

If this is true, Zuckerberg misunderstands the concept of mutual benefit in business

Theres almost a distain in the fact he even asked

@@jdjd432 It's pretty much questioning [fictional] Mark's (or actually even any creator's) intention to just make something cool without any monetary motivation. "I don't know" and "because it was cool, you dullard?"

Zuck has said before and in private DMs that he wasn't really in it for the money, he just liked building cool things and didn't need profit as a reason to do so.

That shrug means "Yea why not"

He didn't sell it because he already had money. Mark Zuckerberg came from money. Now, he didn't come from the kind of money the Winklevoss twins did (their parents had hundreds of millions.) Maybe Mark's mom and dad had, say, $5 million. But $5 million is just barely enough that you (as a child) don't really care about working for money all that much.

shit good catch

ho-ly shit

"We row crew, the most useless endeavor one can imagine".

@@oig40203LOL

Doesn't he have old money? His family, anyway.

@@kingayy9267 see that’s crazy, you’re right!! Like how does money change the way you freaking sound I thought he was making a “rich” person voice but no he just comes from money and genuinely looks and sounds like it

I just know it is only one guy

@@jason854656 Exclusive schools and social life. Accents are formed with whome you associate with early in life.

It’s cuz he is old money. His parents were in finance and his g-grandma was German/polish nobility (Baroness Olga Vadimovna von Root)

Portrayed very generously. My understanding is there is virtually zero intellectual property in software. Whoever builds the audience built the product. To hell with whos "idea" it was.

These people weren't manipulating him? Why do you fall for the most obvious baits lol. These 3 hired Mark as a part of the project, mind you ( a legal contract ) was issued. Mark led them on for 6 + weeks and left them in the dust. Zuckerberg's work is very impressive, but he completely screwed over these guys and even his best friend. You can admire someone's work whilst acknowledging how much of a c*nt he is...

Thanks for your info

And then he started to use it againt people along with Sandberg in a desperate bid to profit.

Then wtf happened with the metaverse?

@@spooneater9001 vanity project

This movie is so good I’ve watched it so many times

Tarantino even said it was his 2nd favourite film of the 2010s. His 1st favourite was Toy Story 3 lol

err top 3 id say, for an otherwise v weak decade

David Fincher realized movies like : Seven, Fight club, Gone Girl and The Game.. you know

Never noticed that

Which was what

@@jygb7092 Sean Parker created napster. and I don't know the app Mark created that they are mentioning in this scene.

Lmao

I've always thought the implication is that Mark realized he can manipulate them out of a weird sense of revenge, considering Erica said she was into guys who row crew. The two topics during their breakup in the opening scene is finals clubs and rowing crew, which respectively matches Wardo and the Winklevoss twins, the two parties who he betrays in the film

No they were very smart themselves, but the fact they row crew hit a sore spot for mark because his ex that just dumped him joked about guys who row crew and it hurt marks ego. He’d also be jealous bc he was looking for ways to distinguish himself and rowing crew is a good one, they were also in a very exclusive final club

I thought it was to reinforce the movie's narrative that Mark wanted to be popular and liked, and crew guys are popular

My take was that he was insulted that he can't row crew. The conversation in the beginning with erica proved that he doesn't have what other guys has, which he wishes. Now two guys who magically row crew need him. His excitement to talk to them was just out of his prior insecurity.

It's established that rowing crew is a fast ticket to being in a final club. Mark is hoping that helping these two guys will help him get into whatever final club that they're in.

For real. He has nothing but contempt for these dudes and doesn't even pretend to hide it.

J. Cutout. Construct.

think it was deliberate

@@slothrop4751 You think? No way it was a creative choice if that's what you mean. Maybe they left it cos of time/budget and thought no-one would notice.

@@EubulusKane3259 Fincher shot the opening scene 99 times. No way this was not intentional.

@@slothrop4751 What was he trying to do then? What was the logic behind leaving Josh Pence's face as is for a single shot of a movie in which the characters are otherwise identical?

I don't really see the difference

same

Me too bro

Smart enough, not “too smart”.

“After I have all this start up experience, now I understand how this idea of exclusive platform from start was awesome” Oh boy. If you had any experience with even one single moderately successful start up MAANG sphere, SMART flow start up company you’d recognize how ridiculously dumb the sentence you just typed out is

@@nicholassmieleski9710found the asshole

They would have negotiated either a fee to pay him or a piece of the business. They did neither and then wonder why he did what he did.

@@williameasom2936 It's probably just a detail that's left out of the scene. They would have been setting themselves up for an obvious lawsuit if they didn't work out some arrangement to pay Mark for his work.

Business tards like this are all over university campuses, they all think they have a unique app and just need a "programmer" to create the whole thing for some peanuts and "exposure". They think their social awkwardness means they are clueless to business.

@Eddie Avinashi Its one of those grey lines. There was no indication that he was planning a social network through Harvard EDU, until the twins approached him. He took their idea and expanded on it, an expansion that potentially the twins may never have allowed him to make had he worked with them. The movies pretty even-handed in their treatment of all parties involved, and the twins were more than fairly compensated for their role in the end

@Eddie Avinashi what was the difference bw ConnectU and Facebook?

I don't know how closely this aligns with how it went down irl, but based on the portrayal in this movie, I get the feeling it would have gone much better if Cameron Winkelvoss had made the offer alone. Like look at how he's making the pitch at 3:30 vs. the comments that Tyler and Divya jump in with. And in general throughout the whole scene he comes across a lot less condescending.

winklefucked

They're on the way up and facebook is on a decline

@@minioncost3877 wait what!

@@minioncost3877 Still lost. You can't even compare their net worth.

@@inessa5923 give it a few years. Fb on a decline

Holy shit I never noticed that lol

would you rather be in Porcelian or have $50 billion? 🤨

No, they wouldn't have and that's part of the point I think

You don’t need to see through a person’s body to deduce they work out. Just by their sizes and figure, anyone could have made a good guess that they go to the gym.

@@anisalamov825 size? Well size has 2 components: height and "width" Height is purely genetics so no way one can deduce that purely from height. Width: They look pretty average to me and in the cuts where they train, you can see that they are athletic but still very slim. Thin arms, thin waist, nothing above average haha. My father would look the same if he wore the same clothes and he doesn't work out at all.

@@adennis200 No

-clothes sizes -height to waist ratio -shoulder width -healthy skin -good posture -deliberate movements -neck and chin You can tell when someone hits the gym. You don’t know if they’re cut but you know when someone looks like they have to train for sports.

@@adennis200wow you're psycho. Everything is relative so compared to Jessie Eisenberg or mark Zuckerberg the twins are clearly tall and wide (built not just fat) so it’s easy to deduce they are just a jock at an ivy (as is common). Whenever I see a tall guy or girl I just assume they’re an athlete, 9.9/10 times they are because all the students who came in through academic achievement tend to be nowhere near that level of built. The tall students that don’t workout are really skinny and nowhere near their width.

as long as its slathered in that sweet baby raysssss

I dont get this

@@rotyler2177 Referring to the allegations against Armie Hammer regarding cannibalism.

*their. English is hard.

Lol I saw that too but I think their face transfer teche only works when he is close to the camera and not looking at an angle. That's probably why they have him wearing sunglasses in the next scene when he is at what I presume to be a distance greater than that required for this tech.

They contractually left one shot of actor Josh Pence's face in the film so that he could be credited as an actor

Yes they did, when Andrew trashed their "dating app" in the deposition room, then Tyler or Cameron said "How would you know you weren't even there" Watch it again

Link to that scene?@@zinan2959

yea i remember when i zucked in your mom. that was zucktastic

and we are still cleaning up the mess.

He frickin’ Zucked so hard in this movie.

Don't know why you are saying that he has and had a bunch of friends back then he wasn't that socially awkward. I don't even like the guy but people shouldn't make stuff up about him.

@@rc59191 he had no friends, not a bunch of friends. I don’t even like the guy but you don’t know how to read that’s the real issue

@@bspiderm I can read just fine you're the one making baseless accusations towards the guy probably out of jealousy.

It sounds exactly like fb lol

Yeah no it sounds exactly like Facebook 😂😂😂😂

yees

Basically, mark set up the code like asked but then ran away with the idea, making it better than theirs, so they sued him

he didn't build it for them...he stole the idea. They sued...and won. They invested (and sold) in bitcoin, and are now worth billions.

the Winklevosses got zero thats why. oh.. and the sandwich

“A person that builds a chair doesn’t owe money to everyone who’s ever built a chair. They came to me with an idea, I had a better one.”

@@Bingo_the_Pugbut when someone gives you a particular idea for a kind of chair , it’s moral not to screw them over Especially if they got the idea into your head

what??? they just want to give him food lol

It’s actually a subtle negotiation tactic. They offer him something while discussing a deal with him, so he’d be more inclined to agree to it. A similar approach was used on the show Mad Men.

It's a courtesy thing. He's a guest in their hangout (though they don't own it).

Aaron Sorkin: The curtains were blue-I mean it was a sandwich

They are using all the tools at their disposal to try to impress him or put him in a state where he's more agreeable.

No, they were going to work together on it. Obviously he has the programming knowledge that they don't have, but they would have financed the whole thing because they have the money.

More like a fox prepositioned by three parasites.

LMAO

Exactly

Agreed

The Lone Ranger killed any chance he had of getting another leading role and the abuse allegations double tapped the corpse.

@@AustinMichael "the abuse allegations double tapped the corpse" HAHAHAHA

@@AustinMichael Yeah, we know how that is… “destroy first, figure out if it’s even true later”…

He was okay in The Lone Ranger.

Read the whole story. He originally wanted to work with them

get a head start, if he said no they could have found another guy to do it

In this scene, they mention that he's their partner. If you watch their movie, it's clear that they're close friends as well.

Because people no matter what position they have in society, are garbage no matter what.

Uhh, redfoo!

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i dont get the cannibalism joke

@@arnoldthegreat4138 because the Winklevoss actor may or may not eat human

Glad there werent two in real like the Winklevoss :D

why are the twins disgraced