I feel like Savannah Georgia and Charleston South Carolina should've been mentioned. They're both smaller cities with a large historic downtown district, thus offering good walkability.

Yup, New Orleans has its rich history to thank for its walkability! New Orleans was originally designed by French military engineer Le Blond de la Tour in 1721, and the original grid can be seen in today’s French Quarter. But many French structures burned down during the Spanish period, and so when the Spanish rebuilt the city (and outlawed timber in favor of brick and plaster), they recognized the need for increasing density due to a growing population and the subtropical climate. And as you mentioned, it is home to the oldest continuously operating streetcar line in the entire world which is the St. Charles Line that has been operating since 1835! Heck, the famous po-boy came out because of a streetcar strike in 1929! Interesting fact about Tampa: Parque José Martí next to Cadrecha Plaza station, has been Cuban territory since 1956! This is because the land that is now the park was once a boarding house where José Martí recovered after surviving an assassination attempt in 1892, and to honor him, when the land was sold to Manuel Quevedo in 1951, Manuel decided to give it to Cuba.

dang you missed Savannah, Richmond & Charleston, all the most walkable cities in the south

Atlanta resident here, good assessment on the city. We managed to hit B tier without a penny of state funding which is a feat I’m proud of. I like that you incorporated average rent prices. I was also shocked by Charlotte given all the transit oriented developments happening there lately. Lower rent in Memphis makes sense given the lower median income and generally how small the city is. I’d be really curious to see a Midwest specific one! Minneapolis-St Paul inevitably going to be A tier but curious how you’d place cities like Milwaukee, Pittsburgh and Cincinnati!

If a southern city or state were highly walkable and bikeable then it would arguably be overpowered. With the sunshine and better weather than up north (except perhaps the Florida cities and New Orleans) people would come in droves (think the east coast equivalent of California). I think if some of these cities with better economies (Charlotte, Raleigh, Nashville, Atlanta, Richmond) and more mild weather invest in the infrastructure it'll be a game changer.

THAT NORFOLK PRONUNCIATION-- YOURE KILLING ME

cant spell nashville without L 😔

I respectfully disagree with your Miami ranking. Miami's metropolitan area is absolutely huge and the monorail covers a fraction of a percent, the metro only has two lines which cover essentially the same area. And Miami is the site of the biggest highway expansions in the country. The trolley service is old and infrequent. The bus service although new is infrequent and dangerous. And the Miami metro is mainly sub urban where car dependant is the only way. I could go on infinitely especially with pedestrians

Nashville didn’t surprise me at all. I live in EAST TN and it’s the most car dependent place I have ever seen in my life.

Hoping Nashville sees improvement in the coming years. It eliminated parking minimums and actually implemented parking maximums for the urban zoning overlay. It also elected a pro-transit mayor who wants to improve the bus system and add BRT. He is supportive of the WalknBike plan, laying new sidewalks and bike lanes throughout the city, and the city is also constructing multiple transit centers outside of Downtown. It will take some time for these projects to come to fruition and make a noticeable difference in lives there, but at least city leaders are aware of the issue. Awesome video!!

As someone who lives car-free in New Orleans, I'm really glad someone in the urbanism space finally recognized it. New Orleans isn't doing anything flashy like Charlotte or Miami or Atlanta, so it flies super under the radar and if you don't venture outside of the French Quarter you don't realize it. The humidity is awful, but the shade and trees in Uptown keep it bearable for me. The city has a lot of problems but it's also got some great bones and as an added bonus, most of the walkabe neighborhoods like the LGD, Marigny and Bywater are on higher ground and actually above sea level (The French Quarter famously took the least amount of damage during Katrina).

28-3 for Atlanta is crazy💀

Im suprised Louisville ranks so poorly considering its really closer to a rust belt city historically than a sun belt city.

I love how the building you used to represent Orlando is the Majesty Building or the I-4 Eyesore 💀It began construction in 2001, was meant to be completed by 2003, then pushed to 2007, 2018, 2022....it is absolutely cursed. Yeah the transit in Orlando itself isn't exactly that great, but the transit in Disney World on the other hand is another story. There's the Disney Skyliner gondola system with three lines serving Epcot, DHS, Caribbean Beach, the Riviera, Pop Century, and Art of Animation. Disney World has a fleet of over 300 buses. There are different watercraft routes like the water taxis that serve the Disney Springs resorts or the Friendship Boats serving the Epcot resorts. And of course, there's the monorail system! When tourists go to Disney World, use the transportation, and explore the resort, they should be asking themselves "Why don't we have a walkable community with lots of transit here?" Sure, Disney World is Disney World, but it shows the many possibilities of transit, and why a city should explore having different transit options instead of being so dependent on car infrastructure.

Source: Have lived in Charlotte and Hampton Roads (and my dude, we gotta work on your pronunciation of Norfolk - but at least you're not saying Nor-FOKE like some gd tourist), and currently live in Savannah, which it seems lots of people here are calling you out for not mentioning for some reason. I would EASILY flip Hampton Roads and Charlotte. HR's mass transit is a bit of a joke, and the geography makes walkability between the Peninsula and the Southside a literal impossibility, as none of the three crossings allow pedestrians (not that you would). The Tide is a great light rail system if you want to go from downtown Norfolk to... just outside of downtown Norfolk. It suffers from political NIMBYism; extending The Tide to the Oceanfront makes so much logical sense that it hurts, but Virginia Beach residents voted against allowing it to cross the city line. Hampton Roads will always suffer like this unless the Seven Cities unify a bit more, which will almost certainly never happen. Charlotte, on the hand, is far from perfect, but at least they're headed in the right direction. Every time I wanted to go Uptown, I drove (which, yeah, meh) to the nearest Lynx station and rode it into town - exactly what light rail is meant to encourage. They could make easier to get uptown from the airport, but at least there's a dedicated bus route to do it. They do seem to enjoy building out rather than up, which is a shame, but there's still hope they'll do it right when they do. I don't get people getting all wHat aBOuT SaVAnNah N CHarlEston in here - they're not in the same league as these cities, and adding almost any southeastern city their size would result in an immediate F tier. If suddenly there was room for two more cities on this list, Raleigh/Durham and Jacksonville surely would be next up. Fun video, though. Keep putting the {CENSORED} in Norfolk!

Is Louisville considered the south? It’s a relatively short drive to Chicago or STL.

Yeah Memphis mentioned! No, but seriously, there’s a serious lack of good public transit and walkable neighborhoods here. Not to mention our Trolleys sometimes just catch fire 😅 Anyways, the City of Memphis has been planning on developing a light rail line from the University of Memphis to downtown for some years, so hopefully that actually gets developed soon. Gotta stay hopeful, even in the south.

Just curious since Virginia was on the list, is DC not considered South to you. Because we’re never included in the South nor in Northeast sometimes.

Nashville is just a giant suburb most of the people living there are not from TN

Thank you for putting the I4 Eyesore for Orlando

For a part two is cover Charleston, savannah, maybe Jacksonville or Ft. Lauderdale, Raleigh, Fayetteville, and Huntsville. Or at least more central south and central costal cities near Atlanta. Totally agree tho, maybe would have swapped some of the C and D tiers but a great vid

Savannah and Charleston being omitted disqualifies this list

Birmingham???

As living in nashville for all my life. (22 years) I have to agree with Nashville. What worse is tons of people are moving here and it's only getting worse but Nashville as done somethings to make it a little easier such as a new transit center in North Nashville. A suburb for Nashville named Murfreesboro has broken ground on a new transit hub. They are widening some of our roadways and Nashville airport is getting a new reconfigure roadway network. Nashville has already been improving there walkable city

you put norfolk but not Savannah on the list??? savannah is so goated it just needs some better tranist.

Not considering criteria outside sprawl and walk score is excluding a lot of factors that make a city fantastic- Charlotte is guarenteed the best city in the south, and isnt going anywhere but up- you gotta note that charlotte isnt an old pre civil war city like Atlanta, the population only hit 1 mil in 2006, and has doubled since. It has a fantastic identity and given the timeline since it became a major city its development is really good. The sprawl is caused by so many people acknowledging the city is great, moving there, and not having anywhere to go except out. Also the NC state gov spends money really badly, expecially on unnecessary infrastructure projects like beltways, while not investing in public transit, tracher salaries, or grants to builders for high density housing.

28-3 Atlanta Thumbnail. That is savage

It would have been nice to see what you think about Richmond VA and Savannah GA!

Great video! Glad i could provide some footage even though it was one short video 😆

As an Orlando resident, you hit the nail on the head. There are absolutely some great walkable areas in the city, especially around downtown, and transit access has /marginally/ improved with SunRail. However, we've still got a very, very long way to go for much of the rest of the city (and ESPECIALLY its neighboring cities in Orange County) and seemingly no great political will to improve it locally or state level. There's a reason so many FL cities have some of the highest pedestrian deaths in the nation...

Great video. I agree on all ratings:)

oooo will you ever make one of these for midwest cities?

I know we aren't huge (500k+ people), but in the next video, can you cover Tricities, TN? (Johnson City, Kingsport, Bristol)

No mention of Jacksonville at all? I know we would be F tier but still…

Cool list, good video. I live car free in New Orleans and I agree that the city deserves more attention from urbanists. We aren't cutting edge when it comes to more explicit people-centric infrastructure and policy, necessarily. But almost a decade ago the city enacted a zoning policy that strengthened its historical district protections. What is interesting is that this type of move is usually associated with NIMBY residents in other cities, but in New Orleans' case it lead to more "accidental" urbanism. Because New Orleans has continuously fought against tearing down its beloved architecture thru the years, it imprints an urban fabric that the future generations are also invested in keeping.

As someone who live in Orlando for 17 years (7 without a car) this video has me feeling some kind of way. The Thornton Park/Lake Eola, College Park and parts of Winter Park are walkable. The rest of the area not so much. And the public transportation system sucks! I live and PIttsburgh now and whenever I hear people complain about public transportation here I just laugh.

Good list! And Texas is pretty much its own country within the southeast lol so I can say why you gave it its own list.

I'm in Miami. It's horrible. Walking and biking in horrible due to it being 93F with high humidity (even at night) for 10 months of the year, the transit doesn't go where people actually live and just get to touristy downtown places and the transit isn't that cheap either. So how does one actually get to the transit without a car? That's the thing, you don't. Definitely doesn't the A tier placement imo. Plus the crime, I wouldn't want to walk in a lot of areas in Miami outside of some neighborhoods.

You forgot that charlotte has a metro system! You said there were only two in the southeast

A few other medium-to-large-sized southern cities I have direct experience with that you might consider looking at: Birmingham, AL: Sprawling parking lot nightmare lacerated by freeways. Below average bus system that doesn't go that far out of downtown. Amount of bike lanes is growing with encouraging plans in the works. Has an Amtrak station. Good potential but F tier for now. Chattanooga, TN: Another parking lot and freeway nightmare that feels hostile outside of a car even in the most supposedly walkable areas. Transit stinks. Bike lanes? What are those? F tier. Huntsville, AL: Now AL's largest city, skyrocketing in terms of growth but not in a healthy way. Tons of sprawl out into far flung areas is slowly overwhelming the city's vehicle traffic with zero discussion of alternative modes. Very few walkable areas, and enough bike lanes to count on one hand. Has a pathetic bus line nobody above the poverty line uses. I had the highest hopes for this city; right now it's all shiny and new but will be bankrupt in 20 years. F tier.

Having lived in three of the cities on this list I gotta say the walk, bike, and transit scores are incredibly flawed. Charlotte is easily head and shoulders above Orlando and Tampa, which beyond 1-2 prohibitively expensive neighborhoods are extremely more sprawling than Charlotte. In Charlotte you have the Blue Line (better transit option than anything in every city on this list besides Miami and Atlanta) and some great walkable/bike-able neighborhoods that are relatively affordable. They are relatively affordable because a factor you didn’t consider is the job market, which is much stronger in Charlotte (and the reason I moved here). On top of all of this the greenway system in Charlotte provides excellent bike-ability to almost every direction of Charlotte from Uptown, and this network continues expanding every year. No city on this list can compare. Overall great video, just think the broad, sweeping generalizations from the website (with outdated scores) unfairly hurts Charlotte. Sure, if you live in the suburbs it’s a car dependent wasteland, but that’s every city on this list.

Can't wait for your Texas list!

That Super Bowl callback for Atlanta is not fair man,😂

Have you ever even been to Charlotte?

Nooooooooooooo not the I4 Eyesore lmao! Much love from Orlando hope our city can become urban like the lake Eola area one day!

Please create a video for Midwest cities 😊

As someone who says "as someone" Im trying to get out of NC asap, I have to use my car for everything.

Yo. I lived in Norfolk for several years and went back for a couple days last year. The LRT extension to VA Beach got blocked by the NIMBYs twice almost a decade ago, and they’re still trying to figure out out to get the damn thing to the airport. They couldn’t even get us a stop at the university. There’s so much wasted land use it’s kind of disheartening. Still hopeful they’ll figure it out. Maybe they’re waiting on a generous billionaire or something.

I live in Nashville, thanks for being honest that my city sux :)

Thanks for giving New Orleans some love. As a professional urban planner who lives in NOLA, there is a lot to love, but also hate. The streetcars are nice, but they really serve as a tourist circulator. The streetcar system desperately needs to be modernized, but a lot of historic preservation people are against it. The bus system is also kinda trash. It is very inconsistent, with bus drivers blowing through stops. I think the thing that stands out for New Orleans is its land use and walkable neighborhoods. The transit may be shitty, but the walkability of the individual neighborhoods are unparalleled to any southern city. Biking is also good within neighborhoods. The problem is interconnectivity between neighborhoods in the city. Keep up the good work!

lifelong southerner here savannah and richmond do some serious heavy lifting in urbanism for their size primarily due to their age and ports

More information on Charlotte, the Lynx silver line won’t be built for another 20 years, and that’s if they can find the funding. The red line will never happen until Norfolk Southern sells their train tracks. About a month ago, they finally said that they might do it. The bus system is horribly mismanaged, so ridership is a mere fraction of what it was 10 years ago. Charlotte definitely deserves its spot in the F-tier, and it is why I am planning to move out soonish. Traffic is just so bad and will only get much worse. A lot of the new construction around town is just repeating past mistakes, like massive parking lots/garages, strip malls, SFH, and street widening.

Birmingham, AL is the closest you'll get to a city in the South.

Louisville isn’t in F tier, Lets Go!!! Anyways the Highlands and German Town here in Louisville do actually stand out as pretty walkable neighborhoods but like yeah outside the Watterson it gets bad

I'm residing in Miami, FL here

Atlanta’s rent is actually really really bad if you exclude the massive low income areas that deflate it. For young urban professionals, it’s more expensive than Chicago with worse wages/salaries

Not putting Atlanta at the top is wiiiild. It literally has a subway. Midtown, the most populated neighborhood, is truly walkable. And there's nothing else like the Beltline Eastside trail in any other Southeast city.

Greenville SC and Asheville NC are pretty walkable cities.

Ah, no love for Birmingham: land of a thousand almost walkable areas (Woodlawn, Homewood -- downtown and Edgewood, Old Town Helena, downtown Bessemer, Ensley, Mount Laurel, Mountain Brook villages, downtown Leeds, etc. missing just a little this or that), but no transit to connect them through the massive non-walkable areas between them. At least massive parks/preserves blocking the way and a lower growth rate curbed how bad the sprawl theoretically could be; though it still does have among the lowest overall densities (Terrain should grant the area a slight density handicap like you should do on a larger scale with Pittsburgh, but it'll still be a bit short).

New Orleans is only walkable when it isn't underwater from a hurricane

Interesting how you consider the state of FL being a problem when the state is leading in rail infrastructure. The Tampa extension for Brightline is already being funded, Sunrail is being extended in Orlando, rail is being extended to Miami Beach, a new light rail is being planned from Miami to Ft Lauderdale, more stations are being added for Brightline…I do agree more work needs to be done in Orlando and Miami but things are moving forward.

I was mad Texas missed the list. Thanks for reassuring me at the end. 😂😂 I’m from Dallas and it’s a pretty sprawling, car dependent place to live. Dallas is trying pretty hard to change, even though most of its solutions are half assed. It has a surprisingly good rail network and has been genuinely trying hard to promote bikeability. All the streets near my house are seeing bike lanes put in, even if no one uses them. Plus, certain neighborhoods near downtown are getting developed into higher density, and even some mixed use zoning has emerged!! Plenty of nice “luxury” apartments in uptown have a bunch of shops on the first floor that promote walkability. It sucks that the walkable parts are kind of reserved for those who can afford it, however. Dallas is a city of extreme inequality and segregation, and the same is true for walkability. Certain areas are getting better, but they are the areas where rent is skyrocketing. The rest of the city/metroplex remains a car dependent sprawl.

I definitely felt the lack of walkability when I was in Memphis. I tried to take the trolly to the pyramid, getting off at a stop at around the same latitude, but there aren’t any easy ways down to the river basin from that part of downtown, so I had to walk back two stops, squeeze through a parking garage, and walk under the highway to actually get there on foot.

I disagree with Atlanta. MARTA gets way too much credit for passing off 2 lines as 4 lmao. New Orleans is the most walkable of these cities

Just to let you know, tampa has plans of modernizing the streetcar and even extending it so Tampa will be less car dependent in the future

No Raleigh or Richmond considered 🤔

What about Jacksonville?

Great video! Do the northeast or Great Lakes next please!

I've been to Louisville, but haven't taken their transit yet. I got to spend a week there in one of the outer suburbs, and it was pretty interesting. Even though I wasn't into urban and transit planning at the time, I still thought the city had a similar feeling to other car dependent cities, which is normal for KY. I know it wasn't taken into account, and I could see why, but from what I've heard, Louisville isn't exactly the safest. Everyone in KY who isn't from Louisville doesn't like going there (especially Lexingtonians). As for rail transit, I've read several articles from years ago that had proposals for light rail, which I think would be a good idea. Returning Amtrak service is also good, I hope the plan goes through when it gets proposed. Louisville is more likely to get funding for it than any other KY city. I guess the main point is that Louisville is okay, but it could be so much better.

I thought Jacksonville was the largest city in the Southeast unless you're including the whole metro area....

Lived in Nashville for a bit. Now I live in Atlanta. Thank god

Excellent video, but the whole SE Virginia area is called Hampton Roads. Grew up in VB as a kid, but moved to Knoxville in 2006, and I'm fortunate to say that my middle school was within waking distance. The LRT system The Tide, is still wanting to expand into VB as the city currently has an abandoned Norfolk-Southern railroad streaching from The Tide's eastern-most stop on Newtown Road to the Oceanfront District. But unfortunately for the past 10+ years, the boomers in charge of the city keep blocking the wanted expansion. Also great job pronouncing Norfolk as Nor-fuck. As for all of Tennessee, there is more improvement currently in the works, and I'm kinda surprised you didn't even mention it. TDOT is actually considering building a state-run passenger rail service, and it currently in talks with the FRA and other Federal Governmental agencies about their proposal. If approved, all major TN cities would be linked with passenger rail, with the main phase connecting Nashville to Chattanooga to Atlanta.

I love North Carolina, and I am proud to be living in Charlotte. Always sad to see the Queen rank so low on these lists. It’s not the best, but I’ve learned to make my bike a big part of my experience here.

I live in the Atlanta area and my question is why Miami has so many rail options but such low rail buy-in when it is very dense compared to other southeastern cities(especially Atlanta) of similiar size. That right there would give me pause giving Miami an "A" rating. More like a B+. I just would expect the metrorail and metromover to at least perform as well as MARTA rail in terms of ridership but I don't think its heavyrail and people mover combined get the same ridership as MARTA rail TODAY (post-COVID where MARTA is really struggling). It just seems like a missed oppurtunity or demonstrates that something isn't adding up/all the SE metros are kind of screwed. I do think its density and topography make it much more easier to get around via other means(like biking and walking) than Atlanta. Atlanta is pretty much harmed by sprawl/no real planning along with its topography (good luck dealing with very hilly suburban areas with no sidewalks, bikelanes, etc. Even the areas with bike lanes are quite "challenging" to navigate to say the least yet ATL still gets lots of runners and bikers). Atlanta's layout and topography honestly makes it miraculous that its public transit ridership (between bus and rail) has historically(Atlanta post-COVID is yikes!!) been very comparable to Miami overall, and it is also unclear why Atlanta's rail and bus ridership are comparable to one another which appears rare among even large metropolitan areas outside of the south. ATL is just a place of contradictions because things seem to work or get buy-in that do not in similiar places. I suppose there could be other reasons such as the buses having a much weaker network and being more heavily coupled to MARTA rail for better or worse. It just seems like Atlanta is a very strange place compared to other cities with a similiar(or even very different in the case of Miami) layout. I don't understand if this comes from culture or demographic differences. Or maybe MARTA rail does relatively well because even those in decently developed suburbs are still much more reliant on the center city than in other large metros like Miami, Houston, Dallas, etc where there are more dense areas of employment and leisure/entertainment options more evenly distributed throughout the metro(so even if rail served the outskirts, there is less buy in). Density outside of center city Atlanta drops off far more dramatically than any of those places. And if you can get on rail to get there, that is FAR better than sitting in Atlanta traffic. I think Miami, IMO, would be a TRUE A if it figured out how to get more rail ridership. That would demonstrate that the public transport options are perceived as fully functional and worthwhile vs simply "an option".

I live in Charlotte. Dang, that's bad. My neighborhood though is 70/42/67 = 179. High rents around here, though.

Walkscore is pretty accurate at least for cities I lived in and have been to in the south and well NYC is a no brainer i wasn't surprised at the walkscore of my old neighborhood. Miami is hands down the best one that I've been to.

“Tampa has some walkable neighborhoods like Ybor” dudeee you killed me there. I really hate the sprawl hell we have down here but if you’re not a tourist Ybor is not it like at all and hide park oh boiii unless you’re rich asf you’re not gonna enjoy walkability anytime soon (and this is coming from a European whose been here for almost 8 years and doesn’t mind the walk). Tampa is shit in every aspect of functional and sustainable urbanism since the whole city and suburbs are car centric and you really can’t move around without it. Outside of privileged Davis or Harbor island where you can walk around or see peeps in their 60s zooming on golf carts you won’t see bike-able/walkable environment (not counting the upper Tampa bay trail which is pretty much only for endurance sports and not transportation and also runs through car centric suburbs far away from offices and other high density urban areas)

Lived in a city in western Miami-Dade called Doral. Unlike most American suburbs, all the neighborhoods there are gated communities with compact townhouses or apartments. The street outside my community had large trees that provided plenty of shade for pedestrians and cars alike. Not only that, but there is a free bus service that takes you anywhere in the area and one of the bus stops was right outside my community. When I had just moved and I didn’t have a car, I used it a lot to go buy groceries or to go to school. The bus frequency wasn’t great but it did the job. There were lots of bike lanes next to the canals, which many ppl used for leisure or to get to school. There was a dog park in the center of all those communities. Even tho you still needed a car to get by, walking/biking/public transit wasn’t such a big pain unlike in other American cities.

Part 2 pleasssseee!!!!

I’m currently a student at UNC Charlotte studying for a Geography/Urban Studies degree and I’m really excited to see that map of future rail transit expansion. The Lynx Blue Line ends right on campus and it’s such an amazing resource to have, since as you said Charlotte outside of Uptown is pretty bad for public transit. The only really disappointing thing about the future rail transit map is that it still wont connect to the Amtrak station, which is terrible for students without cars getting to the station. Hopefully Charlotte will keep on this path though.

What about Mobile, Alabama

3:23 this price is assuming you are in a crappy area too. If you want to live somewhere nice its gonna cost way more

The trolley in Tampa is decent, but it's very slow due to being a heritage line and only runs 2.7 miles. The buses are god awful. The route by my house, which is a heavily used route with over 60 stops that connects downtown to Brandon, only runs once an hour.

Jacksonville is the largest city in the southest by population fyi

Can you do a mid Atlantic/ Atlantic shelf city list?

Charlotte getting an F is kinda harsh especially since you put Atlanta which is just as bad with sprawl on a higher tier.

The pronunciation of Norfolk as “nor-fuck” is killing me

As bad as Nashville is now, you would NOT BELIEVE how much urbanism and transit have improved in the last 20 years. Nashville's bus system has seen its service hours double in this time. Sidewalks, bike lanes, and mixed development have all improved dramatically. Despite the fact that I'm very proud to be a native of Nashville, and that i love my hometown, the F tier is both deserved and generous, since they voted down transit expansion in the past (before traffic went from bad to catastrophic). But Nashville used to be so bad that it would have been J tier. 20 minute frequent service? Pshhh!!! The new mayor has me excited for the future of the city though, so that maybe, years from now, I'll go back and visit, and tell people about the distant past and how much better it is compared to now. Spot-on takes from start to finish, though!

5:34 why so bad?! Charlotte’s transit is amazing with the lynx!

There are some issues with this video I could point out to you, but not hate intended.

I’m surprised Birmingham wasn’t mentioned.

If Louisville and Memphis is on this list, Richmond, va should be as well, it’s metro is 1.35 mil and more walkable than most on this list.

I do get Charlotte's low ranking but hopefully, it'll improve as time goes on with the expansion of the LYNX system and the gateway station (finally) being completed. With the development along the light rail it is showing a TON of potential to be a pretty decent city for the southeast, also there is a lot of work going into increasing the bikeability of the city with organization like Charlotte urbanists. Even though it isn't great, it definitely is working to be better and hopefully be an example for the state

Enjoying your position on New Orleans, that city is way too often overlooked. I wouldn’t really consider Louisville southern though…

You mean atl is one of the largest metros it’s only 400 k population far as city

Orlando is my personal hell, worst city Ive ever been too

And Jacksonville is the largest city in the southeast atl is the largest metro

One thing I suspect about Miami is that it might start getting a lot better whether it wants to or not. It is almost completely boxed in by the ocean and the everglades, with an exception of a small part of the north. If the population keeps growing, they could be forced to densify.

Had nashville been anything other than an F, i would have to question the list. I have been to all the cities on this list and from a safety, biking, and walking perspective, they all should be in the D and F tiers. Hotlanta in the D and the rest in the F.

Great list and I agree an like 90% of the points. Would love to see you do one for mid-size cities.