The Spencer Pump Action Shotgun

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2 жыл бұрын

The recipe for the most lovely pump action you will ever see:
Damascus barrel ✅
140 years old ✅
Interesting mechanism ✅
American made ✅
For more information on this gun or similar go to: www.holtsauctioneers.com
We walked into the Holts December 2021 sale and this 1887 spencer roper pump action jumped off the rack straight away - how could you not fall in love?
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@DAKOTA56777 2 жыл бұрын

Spencers are neat shotguns, particularly fascinating how they combine the carrier, breech block, and ejector into a single giant block of metal. Surprisingly simple mechanically but visually has a lot going on with all the exposed moving bits.

@thegoldencaulk2742 Жыл бұрын

The decocker lever also serves another purpose which was more relevant in the old days of dodgy primers; it allowed you to recock the gun in the event of a dud, light strike, or hangfire without having to open the breech and potentially suffer an out of battery detonation. Obviously that's no longer an issue with today's more reliable ammo. I have one of the later Bannerman guns, and it is as nice to shoot as it is to look at. Wowza!

@jamesranger6283 2 жыл бұрын

140 years old and still a looker. Very nice.

@stephent2114 Ай бұрын

I remember finding one of these at a small gun shop here in the U.S. Also, these were made in Windsor, Connecticut (the “OT” is actually a “CT”, short for the state of Connecticut).

@ejacks3871 2 жыл бұрын

Nice old gun. Sight picture must be interesting with the ejector on top.

@Swrdfshtrmbns 2 жыл бұрын

You would really like one of the new Ohio production Ithaca M37 shotguns. Extremely high quality American utilitarian beauty.

@tgsoutdoors 2 жыл бұрын

Will see if I can hunt one down

@kevinmaughan4290 2 жыл бұрын

The ithaca 37 is my favorite, john browning design, id love to see a review of one here.

@chucksgmgarage1116 2 жыл бұрын

When I turned 12 for Christmas I was given a New Ithica model 37 Featherlite 20 ga full choke 28" ribbed barrel. Now I am 53 and still own it its a gorgeous firearm.

@pbgd3 2 жыл бұрын

@@kevinmaughan4290 I have an old one where there is not a trigger disconnect sear so you can just slam fire rounds. Only problem.is the cutts compensator barrel which has such pronounced blast that the gun is uncomfortable to shoot!

@kevinmaughan4290 2 жыл бұрын

@@pbgd3 they are a great looking gun, even watching the old 80s movies they always had an ithaca,

@elix3877 6 күн бұрын

I love how clanky it is

@JHruby 2 жыл бұрын

I have my great grandfather's Winchester Model 1897, It is worth noting that (in America), the early pump actions were not seen as economy guns at all. My great grandfather could have had a mid-grade Parker double for the cost of that Winchester in 1903, so they were certainly not cheap. The build quality of early pump shotguns in general was very good, IMO like the Spencer, they are wonders of mechanical design when you consider the age and complexity of their workings. Superior firepower is not everything however. Or at least it was not for my great grandfather, who by all accounts did not immediately bond with the Winchester. An early outing with his new marvel in late October 1904 saw him managing to find the only 5 pattern sized gaps in the midst of a flush of geese that must have numbered over a hundred. He blamed the cartridges. Proving yet again, the more things change...

@martinhambleton5076 2 жыл бұрын

I can't help thinking of Del boy clay pigeon shooting! I have to agree with you, it's beautiful in a very unique way.

@hillbillyscholar8126 2 жыл бұрын

I love the oldies as much as the next but I still like the John Browning designed Ithaca Model 37 slide action. Remington manufactured the design as well. They are light, strong and reliable.

@dmytro732 2 жыл бұрын

I've always liked the Winchester 1897. You don't realize how slim it is compared to other pump shotguns until you hold it. Slam fire is always fun too.

@hillbillyscholar8126 2 жыл бұрын

@@dmytro732 Another John Browning classic!

@waltkowalski7776 2 жыл бұрын

Gotta love the Ithacas without the disconnect, slam firing into garbage is a blast

@clacoca1807 2 жыл бұрын

Actually seen a Spencer pump in 8 bore/gauge last year at a auction, they had no documentation on how it came to be. For a 8 bore it was surprisingly slim wish I could track down the listing as it was quite interesting to see.

@tgsoutdoors 2 жыл бұрын

I bet that was epic

@clacoca1807 2 жыл бұрын

@@tgsoutdoors Most likely a prototype or something of the like. Before covid hit we actually had a company who were going put a 8 bore load into production but loading components being in short supply postponed that project.

@Cuccos19 2 жыл бұрын

Thank you Johnny! I have never heard about this shotgun before, it's so good to learn new things! :)

@andrewmoens8614 2 жыл бұрын

I could not agree more... Fantastic classic, ounce again Thanks for everything

@alun7006 2 жыл бұрын

Ohh, very nice. Old guns are so interesting! Have you ever seen a Burgess folding pump shotgun? They're ludicrously cool. The pump is part of the grip.

@alexanderangelo7284 2 жыл бұрын

Forgotten Weapons is a great channel isn't it?

@tomhman6441 2 жыл бұрын

Everyone I know has a Remington 870 of some sort. I own a 870 express now 30 years and it works just great. The Winchester 12 and the beretta silver pidgin are a few more.I owned a Beretta silver pidgin pump 12 gauge. Affordable work horse guns.

@bruceweta8309 2 жыл бұрын

You can not beat the dulcet tones of the click clack . Hard to get in Oz now but I am one of the lucky ones . Just can not cycle as fast as I need to on sporting clay. If I win lotto tonight I will buy you one for xmas because that is pure class

@gnarshread 2 жыл бұрын

Gotta love the weird guns out there.

@nigelmchugh5541 2 жыл бұрын

Great to see this, about only the second video on KZfaq of a Spencer. I have one of these, just a slightly later model. A Spencer -Bannerman, model 1896. Serial number 156115 and it has James Dunbar engraved on the right hand action side and 13290 stamped on the tang. A review of the Bannerman company of New York would be interesting, at one time they were the biggest army surplus store in the world.

@weitzfc1 2 жыл бұрын

I KNOW WHERE THEY HAVE ONE FOR SALE.

@charliemassage2368 2 жыл бұрын

Marvelous gun ✅

@stephenmonk9443 2 жыл бұрын

Oh no!! Now I want one!!

@gopatriots1991 2 жыл бұрын

At 6:00 I might be mistaken, but I'm pretty sure that'd be Windsor CT, or Windsor, Connecticut when it came to the stamping on the barrel or action. Who's to blame, the over 130 year old process used to stamp or the over 130 years of life that firearm has seen? Great content all in all!

@BrapMan Жыл бұрын

Beautiful.

@theashbys8863 2 жыл бұрын

lol I did see that in the auction and looked up the history as I had never heard of one. Thanks for the review chaps. Go on Jonny treat yourself the mrs doesn't have to know

@tgsoutdoors 2 жыл бұрын

She knows all

@christopherroberts7052 2 жыл бұрын

In the 1980’s I inherited my wife’s uncles Winchester 1897.After the Hungerford incident I had it restricted and nitro proofed as the build date was 1899/1900 and was black powder proofed only.Itcame back proofed as a 70mm magnum.!

@dmytro732 2 жыл бұрын

1897s were always meant to be smokeless. The 1893s, which look almost identical, are meant for use with blackpowder ammo.

@billmoore8035 2 жыл бұрын

That is a gorgeous looking pump…

@tgsoutdoors 2 жыл бұрын

Knew you’d approve

@elijahhughes6455 Жыл бұрын

back when they started switching to smokeless powder I think Winchester offered to trade newer shotguns that could handle smokeless if people would give them the old spencer 1882s and they destroyed them so people wouldn’t accidentally shoot smokeless through the old shotguns

@royjennison3916 2 жыл бұрын

love it , very nice indeed

@tgsoutdoors 2 жыл бұрын

Would look better with fine acanthus scroll

@DavidJones-lw2lp 2 жыл бұрын

Epic! 🤘🏻

@ncb2734 2 жыл бұрын

Very nice.

@davidgendron1953 2 жыл бұрын

Mike @USOG would love to see this!

@borkwoof696 2 жыл бұрын

The OG even before John Browning.

@drumhd1 2 жыл бұрын

That is quite an amazing design. 1887? Wow……

@waltkowalski7776 2 жыл бұрын

Do you ever come across the ithaca 37 over there? Here in the states they were very popular in the north east and were (pre covid) very affordable used. When I want to shoot something diffrent I grab one of my early 50's model 37 feather lights and turn heads at the trap range

@nigelmchugh5541 2 жыл бұрын

When I was buying my first gun the shop had a Winchester Model 12, an Ithaca 37 and a Mossberg 600at. For better or worse I bought the Mossberg. Often sorry I didn't go for the Ithaca, because you never see them now (Ireland)

@DFox-ud3gx 2 жыл бұрын

This is a very neat gun have you ever shot a ole lever action rifle Johnny you know the western style action rifle. More fun shooting all these yester year's guns I love them all. Thanks for sharing this pump gun. Good day Johnny

@tgsoutdoors 2 жыл бұрын

I have been blessed to shoot a number of early lever guns, they are epic fun.

@canbrit4621 2 жыл бұрын

Soooo are you going to make a bid? If so and are successful... We definitely need a shooting vid 😀

@tgsoutdoors 2 жыл бұрын

I/we are mulling it over. Estimate of 5-700 but think it will go for £900-£1200. £1500 including commission is enough to stop and think.

@user-cn8vb9hh5z 2 жыл бұрын

You will be bidding against me Johnny! I've bought one of the Charles Lancaster finished Spencer pumps before - they imported 20 actions in the white and fitted Damascus barrels and tubes and walnut stocks. I didn't know that Watson Brothers did the same. You can see the stock is far too plane for the market they were trying to sell to, so likely a replacement. I think it's the Gough Thomas book which calls this gun one for a "hot corner".

@DrRichMahogany 2 жыл бұрын

( Hunt music intensifies )

@funkla65 2 жыл бұрын

Looks to be a sort of pump operated Martini action. I get the steampunk appeal of it, but the 1897 has that, too, while earning its stripes as a practical design. But hey, I have an early Marlin pump in my collection, and that design definitely had its issues. I think the golden era of pumps is right before the industry adopted the lessons of brutal efficiency from WWII, and epitomized by the likes of the Winchester Model 12 and Remington 31. The quirks had been ironed out, yet they were finely fitted for the sake of smoothness and speed.

@tgsoutdoors 2 жыл бұрын

I think it’s the martini action inspiration that endears me to it so

@funkla65 2 жыл бұрын

@@tgsoutdoors the quirky design combined with high degree of finish does give it a malty/hoppy appeal.

@wdefghjuefhdegtfthtgf1351 2 жыл бұрын

Do they have the permits from the atf to ship to the usa

@r10rrr39 2 жыл бұрын

Does it come in realtree and orange for formal game shoots 🤣

@tgsoutdoors 2 жыл бұрын

FDE cerakote not being a factory option was the true reason for its lack of commercial success

@robertunderdunkterwilliger2290 2 жыл бұрын

Now that is a swan necked grip I actually like!

@tgsoutdoors 2 жыл бұрын

Extremely nice lines

@robertunderdunkterwilliger2290 2 жыл бұрын

@@tgsoutdoors Stunning. Bit sad they didn't file up a proper trigger guard though

@tonelar415 Жыл бұрын

“…you can go ahead and have this nitro proofed” / rilly

@darrenbarkham7639 2 жыл бұрын

Would of been nice to see that gun in action.

@thewardenmohdizuddin5407 2 жыл бұрын

Where is the short version of this gun

@benbeattie4609 2 жыл бұрын

I believe Annie Oakley is pictured using one!

@macchinedeltempo6469 2 жыл бұрын

Annie Oakley use to shoot Colt Lighting rifle. Similar look, but more elegant lines. Uberti makes a reproduction for about $1200 in 44-70, 44 magnum and 45LC calibers.

@tacoman9548 Жыл бұрын

What is the song in the beginning

@PlanetX87 Жыл бұрын

I didn't know "utalitarian" was a word.

@danhill6333 2 жыл бұрын

Silly you just can't put a plug in it to limit to two plus one. I guess you have to play the cards you're been dealt. Would be nice if it came home. 😉🇺🇲

@tgsoutdoors 2 жыл бұрын

A restriction and appropriate proof mark is an option, just need to come up with a semi permanent fixture

@SpencY9130 10 ай бұрын

It's the ancient halo shotgun

@justin1563 2 жыл бұрын

What is that outro song

@scott-ex8pv 2 жыл бұрын

Very nice choice of fire-arm :) pity if buy a gun because the UK law would want ya to strip it down till its useless...

@tgsoutdoors 2 жыл бұрын

What do you mean?

@redduc9523 2 жыл бұрын

Such a nice gun, so Jonny did you win it?

@tgsoutdoors 2 жыл бұрын

3 weeks to auction date!

@redduc9523 2 жыл бұрын

@@tgsoutdoors good luck!!

@lost_pmc_3927 Жыл бұрын

It’s hunting time boyyyyss

@johnreed3576 2 жыл бұрын

Hang on, Ian McCallums changed!

@mashakamakarov4296 10 ай бұрын

😍😍

@bharatodedara7813 2 жыл бұрын

hello there i have applied for shotgun grant in june ,been granted by FO in september but still haven’t received paper license,,,after several emails been told they doin ACRO checks,,,been more than two months,,,when i try to contact department no body answer calls neither read answer machine,,,its herts beds and cam county,,,,,,is it normal????guidence pls

@tgsoutdoors 2 жыл бұрын

It’s not uncommon, best to send them an email with a read receipt, and if you are very concerned contact an organisation you are a member of to get involved

@bharatodedara7813 2 жыл бұрын

@@tgsoutdoors thank you for replying,,,i m not membr of any organisation ,,,,,do i have to be one ???is that the relatad to delay ,thx

@phreak761 2 жыл бұрын

@@bharatodedara7813 It might have something to do with a certain affiliation of yours to a terrorist organisation 🤔

@bharatodedara7813 2 жыл бұрын

@@phreak761 well done son 👍🏼

@bharatodedara7813 2 жыл бұрын

got email back and says ACRO checks on hold hence delay ,,,thx TGS

@user-rb7nm3sb9k 2 жыл бұрын

1882 ？？

@alexanderangelo7284 2 жыл бұрын

Why shit on American guns? There is so much innovation and history to love and admire.

@phreak761 2 жыл бұрын

You're a sensitive boy aren't you.

@erikhoins194 2 жыл бұрын

Umm, no…..

@Cats.Hammers. 2 жыл бұрын

You've been drinking. Must've been. Apart from the Damascus barrel, it's a monstrosity. No bids mate, all yours. No commercial success in England? Whaaaaaaattt, no way?

@letsgoraiding 2 жыл бұрын

How is it a monstrosity?

@Cats.Hammers. 2 жыл бұрын

@@letsgoraiding 😃 James, Sir, just look at it. It's like an Indo-Russian collaboration. Horrific.

@worldgunownersassociation7299 2 жыл бұрын

Meh! It's no 1897!

@tgsoutdoors 2 жыл бұрын

Would be an interesting video concept - practical Shotgun course through a trench, shot with M97…. In uniform

@cockedandlocked9765 2 жыл бұрын

No self-respecting Englishmen would carry a Winchester model 12. God forbid

@tgsoutdoors 2 жыл бұрын

The only marched pair of guns I own are 120 rangers

@pbgd3 2 жыл бұрын

@@tgsoutdoors shows up on a hunt day with fitted cases casually extracts 2 120 rangers and proceeds to have someone load for him. Quite popular you must be ;) I have a matched pair of CSMC rbl28s and it bothers me Im always trying to use them equally to keep them in similar shape. When I really just need the one.