The Springfield 2020 Rimfire is FIXED! | or not

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Dirtbag Outdoors

Dirtbag Outdoors

Күн бұрын

The Springfield 2020 Rimfire is back from Springfield! They had it a bit over a month. The process from springfield wasn't great and I would try not to do it again. I really want to love this rifle. Is it fixed? Can it shoot now?
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00:00 Intro | Repair Info
03:06 50 yard 5 shot groups
04:38 50 yard 3 shot groups
05:29 Recap | Review

Пікірлер: 38
@fishcars8078
@fishcars8078 8 ай бұрын
I have one of these, and maybe I'm the one weird outlier out there but mine doesn't have any major issues other than being somewhat picky with ammo (as far as accuracy anyway) and paradoxically shoots supersonic rounds better than most subs. It doesn't shoot as well as it should to be a "target" model but mine shoots generally ok. I get good results with Aguila 40gr (which you used in the video) Eley force, SK semi auto, and recently tried Fiocchi 40gr and it did pretty well too. I've not had any of the feeding or extraction issues some people have ran into. I think these don't have the best quality barrels on them which leads to inconsistency. I know these were made by Retay for Springfield, but I've not known Retay to make anything other than shotguns. It's unclear if they made this barrel or outsourced it. Perhaps Retay offers arms with rifled barrels in other markets? Overall I can't complain too much about mine, it shoots well enough for most purposes and was relatively inexpensive. It doesn't compare favorably to my CZ MTR however. I definitely don't want to come across as trying to make excuses for these. Not my intention at all, but the one I have is truthfully not that bad. Maybe some aftermarket barrels will eventually come to market and someone can test it to see if that really is the problem.
@richardmcmaster4008
@richardmcmaster4008 4 ай бұрын
I believe the guarantee is 1” groups at 50 yards with match ammunition in the hands of a skilled shooter. I’ve had a love/hate relationship with this rifle. Mine being the target version. It has shot really well some days and it has really disappointed others. After a day out, shooting what could only be described as shotgun patterns I was done. After talking to my LGS, they agreed to send it back. I decided to exercise my due diligence and torque checked my action and verified my scope installation. Bought a box of SK Match Long Range (only match ammo I could find in my area). Went to the range gave it one more go, shooting 3 round groups. With the exception of two of the 15 groups, they all met the guarantee of 1” @ 50 yds. Surprising, CCi Standard Velocity out shot the “Match” grade ammo, significantly. With that said, there was really no sense in sending it in when my marginally skilled shooting hands can meet the guarantee with bulk ammo. It’s still fun to shoot and I don’t plan to shoot competitions with it. Honestly, it has one of the smoothest actions, especially at the price point. Would I recommend it, no. There are other options that will shoot just as well, if not better for less money. One final note, CCi Clean, in my experience, is not that great. I couldn’t shoot 1” groups indoors at 25 yards with my CZ Varmint. Save that stuff for the soup cans
@DirtbagOutdoors
@DirtbagOutdoors 4 ай бұрын
In my opinion, they are shooting themselves in the foot, even with their 1” guarantee. It’s not hard to shoot a 1 inch group at 50 yards. This rifle is just not up to it. At least not consistently.
@richardmcmaster4008
@richardmcmaster4008 4 ай бұрын
@@DirtbagOutdoors I believe it’s being able to put a mediocre rifle on the market. With an accuracy guarantee any one can do throwing rocks, it keeps them from repairing or replacing them.
@sappysiggy2351
@sappysiggy2351 7 ай бұрын
My experience with service was awesome on my Waypoint. One minute in the call I had a shipping label no questions asked.Three weeks later it was at my door Fixed to my liking. I did not bother them for this $2500 rifle but 3 weeks is an acceptable turnaround.
@Strutingeagle
@Strutingeagle 4 ай бұрын
This guy says he doesn't know what actions screws they claimed to tighten. WTF???? He might be better off just playing games on his phone or something.
@gustavotrejo6888
@gustavotrejo6888 18 күн бұрын
Some of those groups looked pretty good its hard to find a rifle that like all brand ammo just stick with the ammo that did good. The only 22 rifle i own thats not ammo picky is my cz 452 super match all the other 22 ive owned have been ammo picky.
@redskinfaithful
@redskinfaithful 10 күн бұрын
That being said do you think this is worth the sticker price of $399 new with a Viridian 3-9x40 scope?
@ShutterUp
@ShutterUp 7 ай бұрын
I picked one up recently before seeing all of these bad videos about the rifle. I'm happy to say mine shoots well with Federal bulk black box. Which I'm happy about. I'm still testing but so far I'm happy with the rifle. Maybe I just got a good one.?
@DirtbagOutdoors
@DirtbagOutdoors 7 ай бұрын
Yea must be. Most of them are trash
@jamespilbeam209
@jamespilbeam209 4 ай бұрын
No, far more are just fine. But, do please keep bitching about yours, it's a real good indicator of your character. 😅​@DirtbagOutdoors
@DirtbagOutdoors
@DirtbagOutdoors 4 ай бұрын
@@jamespilbeam209how many have you shot, sold, and worked with Springfield on? The longer people defend subpar products, the longer we have to deal with the severe QC issues as the end consumer. I suppose your comment says a lot about your character as well. 😢
@timvest8141
@timvest8141 4 ай бұрын
Does the crown look good?
@nelsonm5032
@nelsonm5032 2 ай бұрын
did you ever figure that thing out? i would be curious to see the crown and rifling. play with action torques...?
@DirtbagOutdoors
@DirtbagOutdoors 2 ай бұрын
Nope. I keep trying and while it’s very ergonomic, it just isn’t very accurate
@94twentytwo76
@94twentytwo76 6 ай бұрын
I hate to throw shade but I’ve not found a modern Springfield worth much either unfortunately…….. subscribed 👍🏼
@geordiegeorge9041
@geordiegeorge9041 8 ай бұрын
The SK is not bad, but the rifle is not even good enough for plinking. I own a Norinco EM 332 it cost me $160, and it shoots sub MOA at 50 meters.
@DirtbagOutdoors
@DirtbagOutdoors 8 ай бұрын
I have a norinco jw15 I got for $100 and it shoots lights out compared to this thing
@bad_vaporizer
@bad_vaporizer 8 ай бұрын
I contacted springfield about mine. Sent it in and they sent it back saying nothing is wrong with it. They did the same 3 shot group with lapua. There's a reason they won't shoot 5 shot groups and only use lapua ammo for their tests. This rifle is not consistent. I sold mine and bought a 2nd CZ 457. Will never buy another springfield rifle.
@DirtbagOutdoors
@DirtbagOutdoors 8 ай бұрын
It’s bull crap. 💩 they need to own up to it and do a recall or something
@mnbill6963
@mnbill6963 10 күн бұрын
Hey man, why do you have your scope mounted so high?
@DirtbagOutdoors
@DirtbagOutdoors 10 күн бұрын
I didn’t have low 35mm rings.
@mnbill6963
@mnbill6963 10 күн бұрын
@@DirtbagOutdoors I don't mean to nitpick like a lot of people do, but a good cheek weld can have an impact on groups.
@twiztid83222
@twiztid83222 8 ай бұрын
I got a nasty email from them saying nothing is wrong with our rimfire guns and we have no known issues! Every single person that owns one has an issue. I have many including not feeding and not ejecting. Along with horrible accuracy.
@DirtbagOutdoors
@DirtbagOutdoors 8 ай бұрын
It sucks. They told me they can’t do anything other than have me send it back in for “another look”. They also said they don’t offer any buybacks, exchanges, or trade ins. Great.
@twiztid83222
@twiztid83222 8 ай бұрын
@@DirtbagOutdoors Whell that will be the absolute last gun I buy to guinne pig it’s pros and cons. Never again will I buy from Springfield. I wish I knew what the ceo did awhile ago before I bought this pos!
@davyl3059
@davyl3059 8 ай бұрын
I don't know how they can say something like that when all they did was slap their name on it.
@randybrown9768
@randybrown9768 5 ай бұрын
Dr sir maybe the problem is. E 9. Aka operator error. A. You scope is too high from the barrel. B. You never shoot any quality ammo c maybe you are pulling the shoot with so much of your finger on the trigger. Mine shoot a .375 group with good ammo. 28 dollars per 50. Find the ammo the gun likes
@kevinwomack2617
@kevinwomack2617 5 ай бұрын
It's obvious it doesn't like the cci clean...lol
@DirtbagOutdoors
@DirtbagOutdoors 5 ай бұрын
It doesn’t like anything, unfortunately
@rhpratt3
@rhpratt3 4 ай бұрын
I appreciate you and all the other internet reviewers who have steered me away from what would almost certainly have been a majorly disappointing purchase. It is nice and a relief to know that there are still honest people telling the truth on the internet. Springfield needs to take this one back and redo it. Lots of good ideas and styling - but the function needs to match it, even at this price point.
@markt.weston8940
@markt.weston8940 3 ай бұрын
I don't believe you're giving it a fair review you have a competition rifle there that requires better quality ammunition try the standard rifle with that ammo and you'll do a bunch of different group
@DirtbagOutdoors
@DirtbagOutdoors 3 ай бұрын
Anything can be a competition rifle if you don’t mind placing last.
@kevinclark8782
@kevinclark8782 8 ай бұрын
Avoid Springfield. If they won't stand behind their products, and after the legislative fiasco a few years ago, screw them.
@DirtbagOutdoors
@DirtbagOutdoors 8 ай бұрын
Yea I’m over it. Sucks they won’t do anything about it or stand behind their product. Not a good look for them. I’m done with them, especially new stuff.
@chetherron9566
@chetherron9566 5 ай бұрын
OMG, you're such a cry baby. You bought a $300 rifle and you shoot range ammo in it. Now you expect 1\2" MOA.
@twiztid83222
@twiztid83222 8 ай бұрын
The gun only likes select ammo for sure. Probably about 20% of the ammo available as I tested out. Even then at 50yrs the 20% is under 1” every now and then. The 3 shot group at 1” guarantee is a scam! 5-7+ shot groups is a true grouping. The barrel is probably too large of a diameter thus why some ammo works and most seems like a squirt gun
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