The STALL you can't get out of! SUPER-STALL

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Did you know that there is a type of STALL an aircraft can get into which is almost impossible to get out of?
In todays video I will tell you about STALL in general and the infamous SUPER-STALL or Deep-stall. I will go through this video in five steps and at the end there will be a QUIZ, testing you on how much you have paid attention.
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@Teeter11
@Teeter11 4 жыл бұрын
mentour = 10/10 youtuber
@MentourPilot
@MentourPilot 4 жыл бұрын
Thank you!! You are far to kind! 😃
@adamp.3739
@adamp.3739 4 жыл бұрын
@@MentourPilot More like 11/10. If I don't get my renewable energy engineer job then commercial airline pilot is my alternative. Cheers mate!
@linkfreeman1998
@linkfreeman1998 4 жыл бұрын
@@MentourPilot Definetely you are, sir! You really deserve it!
@104thDIVTimberwolf
@104thDIVTimberwolf 4 жыл бұрын
@@MentourPilot, wrong. It is well deserved, Sir.
@mhp0810
@mhp0810 4 жыл бұрын
Sure it's quality content. The ads turn your 10/10 to 3/10. Downvoted
@Reman1975
@Reman1975 4 жыл бұрын
"This is your Captain speaking, We have a slight problem and need to quickly shift our centre of gravity forwards about 10 feet.......... So, Free Champagne for the first 40 economy passengers to get to the cockpit door !!!". :)
@williamhuang8309
@williamhuang8309 4 жыл бұрын
LOL
@RaivoltG
@RaivoltG 4 жыл бұрын
Awesome!
@petesapwell
@petesapwell 4 жыл бұрын
Reman1975 brilliant, love it :)
@Hoggaforfan
@Hoggaforfan 4 жыл бұрын
Epic comment, thx for doing my morning lol
@raidzor5452
@raidzor5452 4 жыл бұрын
This would actually possibly work.
@fredashay
@fredashay 3 жыл бұрын
_"...stalling an aircraft is something we are trained to try to avoid at all costs..."_ Your flight instructor: _"Today you are going to practice going into stalls..."_
@sr-dt3pl
@sr-dt3pl 3 жыл бұрын
To avoid the stall,you must fell the stall..😜
@andreighitescu586
@andreighitescu586 3 жыл бұрын
Yeah compare stalling a cessna to an airliner
@fredashay
@fredashay 3 жыл бұрын
@@andreighitescu586 I've never flown an airliner, lol.
@Myname-il9vd
@Myname-il9vd 2 жыл бұрын
I remember when my instructor was basically saying the same thing as they were bringing the engine to idle
@franciscoandreu4995
@franciscoandreu4995 2 жыл бұрын
@@sr-dt3pl kkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkm
@blatherskite9601
@blatherskite9601 4 жыл бұрын
Stalled plane and "Terrain! Terrain! pull up!" - a really bad day! Understatement of the year!
@iwatchwithnoads7480
@iwatchwithnoads7480 2 жыл бұрын
@@snackler6102 sponsored by the angel of death
@gorillaau
@gorillaau 2 жыл бұрын
@@snackler6102 Pilots may have been wishing they had worn their pull ups that day.
@thomashenderson4230
@thomashenderson4230 2 жыл бұрын
@@snackler6102 that has to be the best comment haha. Providing you meant pull ups as in the nappies
@ivanluca3512
@ivanluca3512 Жыл бұрын
"don't sink"
@Sh9168
@Sh9168 4 жыл бұрын
His dog stalled out on the sofa.
@pavel_bis.channel1428
@pavel_bis.channel1428 4 жыл бұрын
yeah, this dogs are brilliant
@Booboobear-eo4es
@Booboobear-eo4es 4 жыл бұрын
I think he also lost power.
@simplyred6780
@simplyred6780 4 жыл бұрын
Lol
@KSparks80
@KSparks80 4 жыл бұрын
Or he entered a super stall just above the couch and never recovered it. lol
@godfreypoon5148
@godfreypoon5148 4 жыл бұрын
He was trying to activate the stick shaker.
@EleanorPeterson
@EleanorPeterson 4 жыл бұрын
Hi, Petter! There is one practical use for a super-stall that some of your viewers may not know about... I used to fly 'free-flight' model aircraft when I was a kid. They were little (2' or 3' wingspan) gliders or rubber-powered planes built from balsa and covered with strong tissue paper. There was no radio control gear (it cost a fortune back then!) so the planes were self-stabilising and flew in a gentle turn all by themselves. Getting the 'trim' perfect was a big challenge, and taught you a LOT (unofficially) about aerodynamics! Unless the weather conditions were absolutely calm, on a good flight of 6 or 7 minutes - despite being trimmed to fly in a constant gentle turn - the planes could drift a long, long way downwind. You kept fit by retrieving them; I used to chase after mine on my bike! But occasionally you'd encounter a bubble or column of warm rising air, and then you were in trouble because the model would fly higher and higher, to hundreds or even thousands of feet, sometimes flying right out of sight, never to be seen again. It was exhilarating, but very sad because your lovely plane was gone for ever. So we used to fit so-called 'de-thermalisers' to our models. These were simple mechanisms which, after a set time, released a catch on the rear of the tailplane that caused it to tilt upwards to about +70°, putting the model into a massive and unrecoverable super-stall. Even in a strong thermal, the fully-stalled aircraft would head for the ground, wings level, and land gently. De-thermalisers saved a lot of tears... Unless the thermal was really strong, in which case the stalled model (which only weighed a few ounces), would continue to float up, up and away like a balloon; not actually flying, just tumbling and drifting. That didn't happen often, though. Maybe you were under a storm cloud, where you shouldn't have been flying in the first place! Anyway, I just thought it was worth mentioning that, sometimes, a super-stall can be a really useful thing...
@gordonrichardson2972
@gordonrichardson2972 4 жыл бұрын
Elli P Interesting story! The Virgin Galactic spacecraft uses a similar tailboom stabilising mechanism during descent.
@mungewell
@mungewell 4 жыл бұрын
Had something similar.... a 'bungy' based launch system, which would trigger the rudder so that the glider would circle. And then a thermal fuse which would trigger the stall after a length of time.
@godfreypoon5148
@godfreypoon5148 4 жыл бұрын
That is definitely a good mechanism to in stall.
@zagrizena
@zagrizena 2 жыл бұрын
Interesting application. I guess it can be useful as long as the plane is unmanned.
@iowafarmboy
@iowafarmboy 2 жыл бұрын
That's really cool!
@bertblankenstein3738
@bertblankenstein3738 4 жыл бұрын
This reminds me of an interview with Chuck Yeager: "the airplane was in a spin and had the aerodynamics of a set of keys. So I put it in a regular spin and pulled out of it." Just another day at the office.
@bertblankenstein3738
@bertblankenstein3738 4 жыл бұрын
@Agent J agreed. This applies to so many aspects of life.
@swillm3ister
@swillm3ister 3 жыл бұрын
RIP Chuck Yeager. My first hero.
@vicroc4
@vicroc4 3 жыл бұрын
Funny enough, one of his closest calls was in a plane that was notorious for getting in to a deep unrecoverable stall - the F-104 Starfighter.
@sr-dt3pl
@sr-dt3pl 3 жыл бұрын
Yea...but think of passenger aircraft,like a320... passengers will fly like another aircraft inside fuselage.
@gorillaau
@gorillaau 2 жыл бұрын
@@sr-dt3pl They should be wearing their seat belts. I rarely take mine off, I trust the airline and the pilots, but no turbulence.
@emty9668
@emty9668 Жыл бұрын
When I learned to fly my instructor felt it beneficial to teach me how an aircraft stalls, can enter a spin (spiral dive) and recovery. The flying school had several Tomahawks each with its own stall characteristics. I got pretty good at recovery and had no fear of the stall or dealing with it as it happens. After getting my PPL I decided to do an IMC rating and was taken out by a new stand in instructor I didn't know and in marginal conditions. He wanted to do recovery from unusual attitudes and we were in marginal conditions (I expect he wanted the money for the flight). The actual aircraft we took had a nasty 'super slippery' wing drop when it stalled. He instructed me to go to 5000 feet and I insisted on 7500 feet which he felt was excessive but I did it anyway. I also said the aircraft had a vicious wing drop but he just laughed. So there I was on with a power off nose high stall and the aircraft flipped into a spiral dive, it was rare you could catch it with this aircraft. He said nothing at all. I looked across and he was frozen, I recovered the aircraft. He said pretty much nothing for the next 15 minutes then said it was a bit marginal and to go back. Never saw him again. The PPL now apparently only teaches you to recognise an approaching stall and prevent it happening, very few get to experience the spiral dive which can be overwhelming when it happens.
@paulstanley3612
@paulstanley3612 9 ай бұрын
Suggest respectfully that you go for more lessons: spins and spiral dives are different things-with different recoveries. Hence the need for lessons. Happily I’m both a flying instructor, and I have a Pitts S2a, an ideal platform for such lessons! Cheers, Paul Stanley
@shahrosebhatti9122
@shahrosebhatti9122 6 ай бұрын
That man was shitting bricks 😂
@TheYodaman22
@TheYodaman22 4 жыл бұрын
A pilot gets into a super stall. Quickly KZfaq’s how to get out of one Finds out he’s totally screwed.
@AngelCanseco1
@AngelCanseco1 4 жыл бұрын
This showed up after i looked up the pulova 621 cvr. It was a super stall and you can hear the pilots panicking and screaming as they are about to hit the ground
@raymondgoubet
@raymondgoubet 4 жыл бұрын
@Homo Quantum Sapiens Ah those people who never read the manual!
@gubocci
@gubocci 4 жыл бұрын
@Homo Quantum Sapiens I wish I had such a great sense of humor as you do
@Stephanie-vt8xi
@Stephanie-vt8xi 4 жыл бұрын
@@AngelCanseco1 I don't know anything about this..........was it a happy ending? ....
@AngelCanseco1
@AngelCanseco1 4 жыл бұрын
Stephanie no, horrible screaming
@H2R5GSXR
@H2R5GSXR 4 жыл бұрын
Old B727 FE lived through this induced by Super Captain. Being an acro pilot and aware of our aft CG, I warned the Capt he was playing with fire flying trough stick shaker. As he lost control I grabbed FO yoke and turn full left to raise flight spoilers. This brought us nose down and the FO took over recovery. The Capt still will not talk to me, but I saved all of us. We were on departure climb out. You have to know the situation and keep your head. Great Talk.
@shahrosebhatti9122
@shahrosebhatti9122 6 ай бұрын
Wow why would he not speak to you ? Was he too embarrassed
@dionlindsay2
@dionlindsay2 4 жыл бұрын
I wish I'd had a science teacher like you at school. They never seemed comfortable explaining stuff to us and I got bored and lazy. This is good to listen to - thanks!
@gorillaau
@gorillaau 2 жыл бұрын
The problem with school is when you don't see the relevance of how you'd ever use that in real life. Sometimes you need to be given some "fun" examples to keep the child's attention.
@scrrification
@scrrification 2 жыл бұрын
maybe if teachers got paid like successful youtubers... ;)
@dionlindsay2
@dionlindsay2 2 жыл бұрын
@@scrrification Yep maybe. But I had some extraordinarily good teachers that weren't paid that much.
@tanyl85
@tanyl85 4 жыл бұрын
12:22 - so basically "I am a leaf on the wind, watch how I stall." That is a scary thought.
@Demonslayer20111
@Demonslayer20111 4 жыл бұрын
Ok wash. Try not to get a reaver spear thrown through you
@tanyl85
@tanyl85 4 жыл бұрын
@@Demonslayer20111 going by Mentour's explanation I'd be more likely to hit the ground first :/
@Booboobear-eo4es
@Booboobear-eo4es 4 жыл бұрын
Soviet aircraft utilized wing fences on the top of swept wings to maintain airflow. Military and aviation folks in the United States would joke that the wing fences were to keep the airflow from defecting off the wing.
@RussianSevereWeatherVideos
@RussianSevereWeatherVideos 4 жыл бұрын
Oooh, that's a good one comrade!
@christhirion9474
@christhirion9474 4 жыл бұрын
And technically correct
@thebigmacd
@thebigmacd 4 жыл бұрын
@@christhirion9474 I'm pretty sure airflow doesn't "defect" like some Soviet pilots did.
@mariebcfhs9491
@mariebcfhs9491 4 жыл бұрын
Pilots: *fail to notice stall warnings* Stick pushers: Fine, I'll do it myself
@FutureBoyWonder
@FutureBoyWonder 2 жыл бұрын
I don't understand how a lot of pilots managed to ignore all this when found out during a crash
@TheBahamut255
@TheBahamut255 2 жыл бұрын
@@FutureBoyWonder Depends on a lot of factors. Fatigue is one I know of. Example: Colgan Air Flight 3407, where an exhausted flight crew was mentally unable to correctly interpret the warnings, and ended up causing the Stall themselves.
@joez.2794
@joez.2794 2 жыл бұрын
MCAS: _Nothing to see here_
@RoelandJansen
@RoelandJansen 2 жыл бұрын
@@joez.2794 indeed, nothing to see here - avoidable crashes.
@chrisb9143
@chrisb9143 2 жыл бұрын
*laughing in Airbus alpha protection*
@FS2K4Pilot
@FS2K4Pilot 4 жыл бұрын
What you said about the movement of the center of lift when the wing tips stall reminded me of a spin recovery technique that was developed for the F-14, which was notorious for entering unrecoverable flat spins. The technique involved sweeping the wings fully aft, thereby moving the center of lift aft of the center of gravity, causing the aircraft to nose down and fly out of the spin. It did, however, require at least ten thousand feet of altitude to execute.
@mytech6779
@mytech6779 4 жыл бұрын
The F14 issue was mainly at low speed during approach to landing. It would get a compressor stall if slipped or skidded on the turn to final, while also being below single engine maneuvering speed(which was high due to wide engine placement), so quickly adding power to the good engine would actually cause or increase a spin. All while 200 feet above the water.
@FS2K4Pilot
@FS2K4Pilot 4 жыл бұрын
The general unreliability of the TF30 didn't help much in that area, either.
@roichir7699
@roichir7699 4 жыл бұрын
In airplane design, T-Tails have to be in a certain ratio of height to distance from the center of lift. This ratio makes sure that the tailplane is above the wake area in a stall and so prevents deep stalls. The same applies to rudders. The design of rudders must be so that a useful part of the rudder is still outside the wake area and can be effective in a stall situation. Lessons leaned from the accidents in the past. One thing you can also do in a stall is shifting the center of gravity. Like all passengers running forward. This is not very likely but could work. I also works in a flat spin, which is another very dangerous situation you would not want to get into, because then all surfaces stall simultaneously. This is prevented usually by having the center of gravity before the center of lift by contruction and loading. Which is a requirement in designing an aircraft. There is much more to it that has to be considered during design.
@evertkampert6823
@evertkampert6823 4 жыл бұрын
Maintain thine low angle of attack lest the earth rise up and smite thee! I fly agricultural aircraft (Air Tractor 502 ) and we have to think about angle of attack continually because of flying steep repositioning turns all day long.
@millomweb
@millomweb 3 жыл бұрын
I'm sure I read "flying sheep" in that comment.
@TheRealGuywithoutaMustache
@TheRealGuywithoutaMustache 4 жыл бұрын
There is a type of stall an aircraft can get into which is almost impossible to get out of? Wow, never knew until now
@MentourPilot
@MentourPilot 4 жыл бұрын
On this channel I always try and teach something new!
@TheEDFLegacy
@TheEDFLegacy 4 жыл бұрын
There's a few; T-Tails can blank their elevators with their wings, and planes with perfect centre of gravity can flat spin with no ability to correct.
@MisterIvyMike
@MisterIvyMike 4 жыл бұрын
@@TheEDFLegacy Uähh... Flat spins, this is what i'm afraid of! I do some glider aerobatics and sometimes i spin the glider, the SZD-59 for example, spins realy nice. But a flat spin, this is pure horror!
@lfox02
@lfox02 4 жыл бұрын
@@TheEDFLegacy And not just tails. In the trijet days, sometimes the inlet for the rear engine would fall into the aerodynamic shadow of the plane, rendering it unable to perform. If I am not mistaken, Gulfstream made the tails on their jets taller to avoid this over the years.
@siyacer
@siyacer 4 жыл бұрын
Yeah, the bathroom stall.
@CardiffDrumAndBass
@CardiffDrumAndBass 4 жыл бұрын
“This is a very very bad situation” You can say that again - Jesus Christ, that is some scary stuff. 😱
@sojournersunrise2290
@sojournersunrise2290 4 жыл бұрын
i read that just as he said , it .
@karlchilders5420
@karlchilders5420 4 жыл бұрын
That is what took down AF447. Look at the accident report. Mentour, you know as well as I do that a loaded A330 can't climb at 7000fpm at any altitude, much less from cruise altitude. That aircraft was pushed upwards by a strong updraft in the embedded thunderstorm line, and after exiting that updraft they found themselves high, heavy, and at a positive AoA. The aircraft then entered a deep stall which of course blanked out the tail effectiveness. Add in the fact that super-cooled liquid (not ice pellets for god's sake..) entering the pitot tubes and freezing, which of course affects AoA and airspeed. The co-pilot didn't help things by continuing to pull up, which of course aggravated the situation and prevented recovery. If I am correct, there is a slight window of time where they could've rolled the aircraft to the right, quite a lot actually (certainly to the point of discomfort or alarm to passengers not familiar with flying or upset attitudes). The aircraft could then use the fuselage to slow it down some and hopefully recover. Outside of that, anything you'd do to recover would've oversped the aircraft horribly, or outright stressed the airframe to the point of breaking things or in-flight breakup. A sad situation for sure, but an example of a deep stall, and more importantly, an example of why we do NOT fly into thunderstorms.
@fred_derf
@fred_derf 4 жыл бұрын
One of the benefits of having a set of canard wings, they stall first dropping the nose before the main lift wings can stall.
@topiasr628
@topiasr628 2 жыл бұрын
I need to research this more.. It certainly would makes sense in a logical first-pass. I presume increased drag is the rational behind their lack of use?
@fred_derf
@fred_derf 2 жыл бұрын
@@topiasr628 Canard are aerodynamically complex and take a lot of careful design to function properly. In general the benefits are not seen to warrant the increased design / construction / maintenance costs.
@mcmillen56
@mcmillen56 3 жыл бұрын
I don’t know that you will see this comment as this is an older video, but you are an amazing teacher. Your understanding and passion for aviation and the physics behind it are second to nobody I have ever watched. I discovered your channel about a month before flying my family to Florida for my wedding/vacation and binge watched so many of your videos. I felt very comfortable flying having a decent understanding of what I would watch the wings do from takeoff to landing, the sound of the engines, hearing the hydraulic system (a320) Thank you for making all of the content you do. It’s motivating to get my pilots license
@MentourPilot
@MentourPilot 3 жыл бұрын
Hi Daniel! That makes me so happy to hear! Welcome to the channel.
@calm.aware.
@calm.aware. 4 жыл бұрын
7:47 stalling near ground: „That’s a really really bad day“ Most certainly would be!
@ilrassoemil9854
@ilrassoemil9854 4 жыл бұрын
He is too good. Thanks for noticing.
@marsgal42
@marsgal42 4 жыл бұрын
When I go to the practice area and play, uh, practice stalls I want to be at least 3000' AGL.
@Lazy_Aviator
@Lazy_Aviator 4 жыл бұрын
747, no. Just me?
@-DC-
@-DC- 4 жыл бұрын
Low and slow make's the warning lights Glow 😏
@its_chris_cross
@its_chris_cross 4 жыл бұрын
That. was. SO. INTERESTING! I never thought about the fact, that the aircraft's design could either stop or even worsen a stall. And now I finally know, what those little metal plates on the wings are (the vortex generators)! I was about to say, that the swept wings, trijet design sounds like a terrible idea with the new information, but I'm happy to hear about all those counter-measures. Thank you for the excellent video!
@crimsonhalo13
@crimsonhalo13 4 жыл бұрын
"The aircraft will fly like a leaf ... to the ground." A big, unwieldy, fuel-filled leaf.
@millomweb
@millomweb 3 жыл бұрын
The second sentence was intentionally omitted. I'll reinsert it for clarity...... "The aircraft will fly like a leaf ... to the ground. It will then act like a bomb."
@GaryNumeroUno
@GaryNumeroUno 4 жыл бұрын
Maybe the MCAS system is just a fancy name for the computerised electronic stick pusher they snuck into the cockpit without advising the crews!
@gordonrichardson2972
@gordonrichardson2972 4 жыл бұрын
GaryNumeroUno I have heard that assertion, and it has an element of truth!
@cr10001
@cr10001 4 жыл бұрын
I think you'll find that every aircraft with a stick pusher, the crew were advised of its existence and how to manually override it (pull harder) and cancel it, as part of their type training.
@gordonrichardson2972
@gordonrichardson2972 4 жыл бұрын
cr01 Precisely the difference from MCAS.
@24bellers20
@24bellers20 3 жыл бұрын
Google the Trident! I was on one when it got buffeting on approach at about 100ft and slammed into the ground with the engines spooling up. Thank God we were nearly down. Calm hot day and must have grabbed a tailwind. It was in the 60s I think returning from Nice.
@floatthecreek
@floatthecreek 4 жыл бұрын
When can an aircraft be stalled? I was taught like you, at any airspeed and in any attitude. Great job Sir.
@steverpcb
@steverpcb 4 жыл бұрын
Turn to tight and the inner wing will stall before the outer, this is why pilots are taught let it slip around turns at low level rather than use too much rudder :)
@roonairns5023
@roonairns5023 3 жыл бұрын
Love the pooches in the background xx
@davidclarke5938
@davidclarke5938 3 жыл бұрын
Your relaxed pooches help create a soothing atmosphere for the subjectively tense and technical presentation of aviation mishaps.
@keith2964
@keith2964 4 жыл бұрын
Doing stalls and my first solo are two of the most memorable things during my PP training. Third would be first solo cross country. Practice stalls in a 152-172 Cessna a were quite exciting. Great video, blue skies!
@tfabrizio623
@tfabrizio623 4 жыл бұрын
I am working on my Private Pilot's License right now.... you do such a great job explaining things! So many of your videos have helped me out. Thanks!
4 жыл бұрын
Adorable and warm personality of this pilot makes me watch all of his content even though I’d never wish to be any kind of pilot whatsoever 😊. Great stuff, kudos!
@dragonex814
@dragonex814 4 жыл бұрын
This video increases my angle of attack
@karimtebbakh2432
@karimtebbakh2432 4 жыл бұрын
dragonex814 then you will stall from the bottom to the top ....stall to Mars or the moon
@mohamedhadgersi8667
@mohamedhadgersi8667 4 жыл бұрын
Hi dear Captain,i never could be enough greatful for all the pertinent content you brought us mainly in addition to all that regards aviation ,you are helping us to set up a succesful mindset ,a way of thinking and visualizing things from diferrent perspectives to get the right step to be held.thank you very much 🌹🌹
@julzb7165
@julzb7165 4 жыл бұрын
Absolutely fantastic video 😎✈
@MentourPilot
@MentourPilot 4 жыл бұрын
Thank you!!
@kaboom9081
@kaboom9081 4 жыл бұрын
My wonderful nephew who is still training to be a pilot, took me for a spin in a little Cessna and once high up in the air, he stalled the plane. My life flashed before my eyes as I saw the tiny houses below me. I love my wife more than ever!
@Solent19
@Solent19 3 ай бұрын
he "took you for a spin" -well that can be dangerously misinterpreted
@ChrisZoomER
@ChrisZoomER 3 жыл бұрын
The Superman symbol you used for super-stall makes it seem like a good thing when it's the exact opposite! LOL
@stein1385
@stein1385 4 жыл бұрын
"paper aircraft" love it
@ichaukan
@ichaukan 2 жыл бұрын
I hadn't been on a flight since 2012 but I found your channel a couple of months ago after starting a new job where I was told I might have to fly around the country for work. I take wing and exit seats every time now so I can watch how the plane is flying, and also so I'm able to help if need be. Been on 5 flights over the last few weeks and it's been great knowing what every sound, action and stage of flight is.
@jonathanford9354
@jonathanford9354 Жыл бұрын
That aircraft with ribbons attached to the top of the wing provided a really good visualisation of the airflow, and the turbulence when the angle of attack gets too high. I'm finding all of your videos really interesting and informative. The more that I watch, the more I realise just how complicated flying an aircraft is.
@Zer0n3
@Zer0n3 4 жыл бұрын
During a super stall, could you regain flight by having the passangers flocked to the front of the aircraft changing the center of mass?
@roccoVAL
@roccoVAL 4 жыл бұрын
lol stay in school kiddo
@roichir7699
@roichir7699 4 жыл бұрын
Theoritically you can do this. Practically you will have to get the passengers quickly moving up a slope in rough conditions without panic. Quite a challenge.
@jimbeaux4988
@jimbeaux4988 4 жыл бұрын
I, as a passenger in this situation, would be willing to try this.
@roichir7699
@roichir7699 4 жыл бұрын
@@jimbeaux4988 It is not so much about will. more about implementation.
@bogdan_n
@bogdan_n 4 жыл бұрын
@@roichir7699 "Free drinks in first class for everybody!!!"
@Mikinct
@Mikinct Жыл бұрын
Since engineers are fully aware of potential super stalls or deep stalls one would think they would create a new control surface that appears in these dire situations. Instead of only horizontal control surfaces in normal flight. Maybe they'd be a button that now activates a pop out Vertical control surfaces that provide pilots ability to get plane in a high left or right bank to get nose to drop and regain needed airspeed. Almost like a large rudder but aligned downward instead. Instead of a yaw one would get a roll instead with ailerons are in turbulent air & no longer effective. This new Emergency Pop out veritical type rudder control surface needs to also be forward to be out of turbulent air.
@alyx6427
@alyx6427 Жыл бұрын
probably too expensive or wouldn't be useful enough to justify fitting them
@johnclarke1045
@johnclarke1045 4 жыл бұрын
That’s so funny I was right in the middle of this topic on my ATPL CBT when you uploaded. Nice supplement to it. Cheers and safe flying.
@ManAcadie
@ManAcadie 4 жыл бұрын
What a great channel for any nervous flyer. Thank you Mentour Pilot. Very smart guy.
@scheusselmensch5713
@scheusselmensch5713 4 жыл бұрын
Depending on the aircraft and load, you could have 50 passengers run forward, that's be a significant enough weight shift. On a much smaller scale, this worked years ago for two fellows who got a Yankee into a flat spin, they had to open the canopy, stand up, and lean forward over the windscreen.
@232K7
@232K7 2 жыл бұрын
They did WHAT
@scheusselmensch5713
@scheusselmensch5713 2 жыл бұрын
@@232K7 I kid you not.
@matejlieskovsky9625
@matejlieskovsky9625 2 жыл бұрын
Link?
@scheusselmensch5713
@scheusselmensch5713 2 жыл бұрын
@@matejlieskovsky9625 You're not going to believe this but occasionally there are no links to things that happened well before the Internet. As well, I once read a verified report of a Globe Swift (IIRC) that had a propeller blade depart and shortly thereafter the engine followed the propeller's example. The pilot was able to regain control during the ensuing loop and successfully got the aircraft on the ground intact (or what remained of it). I once, by virtue of faultless stupidity, managed to half snap roll a Cessna 150 upside down at no more than 50 feet off the ground. I did not crash, and went on to a long career of less stupid aviation. I have no link I can send you but it did happen.
@mayatate2793
@mayatate2793 9 ай бұрын
I'm a year late but I have to say, I love the way you write. It is very entertaining and to the point. I would imagine that people like listening to you speak irl. :)
@davidanderson4091
@davidanderson4091 3 жыл бұрын
Would dropping the gear and/or flaps help you to overcome a deep stall? My thinking here is that adding drag below the aerodynamic midline and behind the centre of lift might help to pitch the nose down.
@fillipo1972
@fillipo1972 2 жыл бұрын
The depth of your knowledge is breathtaking and fascinating. Your content is too good for the usual over dramatic tv programmes I have seen. Amazing. You have a calming and respectable manner, totally impressive. And you are a fellow ginger!!!
@caseyjones7119
@caseyjones7119 4 жыл бұрын
Love your videos! Non-pilot aviation buff and 75k+ miles/year business traveler. Thank you for sharing your knowledge & expertise from the cockpit. 🙏
@cranjismcbasketball2118
@cranjismcbasketball2118 4 жыл бұрын
I have an audible indicator in my aircraft with a boston accent... It says REEEHHHHTAHHHD REEEEHHHHTAHHD or WIKID LOW.. WICKID LOW!
@cranjismcbasketball2118
@cranjismcbasketball2118 4 жыл бұрын
Eli Wesley haaaaaa🤣🤣🤣! I have one with valley girl accent too... Liiiiiike i think wee R gonna totally stall!!!
@falxonPSN
@falxonPSN 4 жыл бұрын
@Kyros - actually, it wocks
@ellenorbjornsdottir1166
@ellenorbjornsdottir1166 4 жыл бұрын
Welcome to British English
@cranjismcbasketball2118
@cranjismcbasketball2118 4 жыл бұрын
Eli Wesley Ya got a stall goin on ofver dare... pull up doont ya know!
@ellenorbjornsdottir1166
@ellenorbjornsdottir1166 4 жыл бұрын
@@cranjismcbasketball2118 push down, push down
@ralphomholt2494
@ralphomholt2494 3 жыл бұрын
Excellent presentation. However, I would add that any aircraft can potentially be inadvertently deep-stalled under unusual conditions such as abrupt environmental turbulence, versus "typical" aerodynamically induced aberrations. The condition may also not meet the test of the classic stalled condition - with a stick-shaker - as opposed to a vertical 'inertia,' rather emulating a vertical bow wave. The B-737 100, 200, 300 (presumably the 500 series) are known to encounter a loss of elevator authority during moderate-heavy icing conditions; due to disturbed airflow from approach flap settings, coupled with the icing buildup on the horizontal stabilizer. I've personally witnessed 'square' ice on the horizontal stabilizer. Altitude and time permitting, if possible, I'd encourage a thought to turning off any power limiting features in an emergency, so as to maximize "survival thrust'" - damn the engine replacement cost. Whether you accelerate through the 'condition,' or use engine differential thrust and/or flaps and landing gear to maneuver/break out of the 'condition,' the awareness of the possibility and early recognition are paramount. In the case of the typical airliner, it's possible to encounter such pertinent 'onset' conditions due to an abrupt higher-than-normal air temperature deviation during cruise or climb, even without vertical gusts from thunderstorms, for example. The FMC and other automated features may not give timely clues or 'solutions.' As an indicative but extreme example, in November 1968, in Alaska, an F-27 encountered a vertical 'sheer' in clear air at 20,000 feet - calculated by the NTSB at 29Gs. Its impact was far more vertical than horizontal. In aviation, anything is possible - and probable.
@lukefowler9740
@lukefowler9740 2 жыл бұрын
Indeed. It is a popular and dangerous misconception which seems to be taught that "only T-tailed aircraft can enter a deep stall" and I even noticed one experienced pilot commenting on the AF447 incident that "the aircraft was not in a deep stall because it is not a T-tailed aircraft". Any aircraft can enter a deep stall if the horizontal stabiliser is stalled in addition to the wings. I'll repeat that. Any aircraft can enter a deep stall! The combination of a swept-wing and T-tail is most susceptible to a stall, due to the poor stall characteristics of the swept-wing as described here (alongside the shift forwards of the centre-of-pressure as the AOA increases on most wing designs, not mentioned here) and the turbulent flow over the horizontal stabiliser reducing elevator authority. However, any T-tail or swept wing is susceptible to a deep stall and even a non-swept wing craft under the right conditions could experience a deep stall. As Ralph mentioned, vertical sheer/extreme updrafts which result in an abrupt change to the angle of attack can in theory stall the horizontal stabiliser and it is possible that this is what was encountered by both AA8501 and AF447 since both planes climbed beyond their performance capabilities at high altitudes, suggesting that they encountered updrafts which resulted in a high vertical speed (this is mentioned in the reports as a possibility but NOT directly linked with a necessary change in the AOA). This type of stall is doubly dangerous as the abrupt transition from normal flight to a deep-stalled condition would not result in a stall-buffet as the airflow would detach from the entire upper surface of the wings and canards at once. This makes the deep-stalled condition even more difficult for pilots to diagnose. We may never know if AA8501 and AF447 were in deep-stalled conditions, as the pilots flying failed to recognise the stalled condition at all until too late. The response of AF447 to side-stick inputs and rudder commands by the FO during the final seconds of flight indicate that a deep-stall was probable and had the SO pushed forward on the stick it may have had no effect whatsoever, but since he didn't we can only speculate. Nevertheless, it seems shocking to me that so many pilots believe the myth that not all craft can enter a deep-stall. Modern aircraft are returning to designs where the body and nacelles produce a significant fraction of the total lift. In a stall-condition, this lift is a stabilising factor which helps to prevent rolling and yawing motion during the stall which could lead to a spiral descent. However, in a deep-stalled condition, this lift can stabilise the craft in a gliding descent with nose-up attitude, keeping the horizontal stabiliser in a stalled condition. Tricky business...
@joegibbskins
@joegibbskins Жыл бұрын
I agree with what you are saying. Flying should be illegal. It’s just too dangerous
@davidclarke5938
@davidclarke5938 3 жыл бұрын
Your relaxed pooches help create a soothing atmosphere for the subjectively tense and technical presentation of aviation mishaps.
@basschaap9690
@basschaap9690 4 жыл бұрын
Absolutely amazing how you explain everything so clearly! Thank you so much captain it really pushes me to keep studying
@jameshoffman552
@jameshoffman552 4 жыл бұрын
13:45 “flow-wise span” means: span-wise flow - air movement parallel to wing’s axis.
@stevecreighton3352
@stevecreighton3352 4 жыл бұрын
The Trident was a high T tail aircraft and could super stall. The only way to get out of one was to fire a parachute out of the back to lift the tail which was done on initial proving flights. A superstall was the cause of the Staines crash near Heathrow in 1972. Someone retracted the leading edge droops ( now called slats ) which could be controlled independently of the flaps on the Trident. They had all the warnings but ignored them and cancelled the stickpusher. Incredibly Tragic.
@Vincent_Sullivan
@Vincent_Sullivan 4 жыл бұрын
Steve; Were those super stall recovery parachutes installed on production passenger carrying Tridents or were the pilots just told "Don't do that!"?
@stevecreighton3352
@stevecreighton3352 4 жыл бұрын
No, they only used them one time AFAIK at Hawker Siddeley during the proving phase of the development. I knew someone who was involved in the testing.
@judebrad
@judebrad 2 жыл бұрын
One of the saddest accidents I have read about. Because of the lack of C.V.R, we can only guess as to who exactly retracted the droops. Due to the probable incapacitation of Captain Key, the aircraft did not reach flap-retraction speed, and the lack of visible cues and experience of the 1st and 2nd officer did not help either.
@cigmorfil4101
@cigmorfil4101 Жыл бұрын
​@@Vincent_Sullivan The Tupolev 104, being based on bomber, had a parachute to help it stop as its brakes were dire and had no reverse thrust. It also had swept wings and wing fences to stop the lateral air drift...
@BlueElwood
@BlueElwood 4 жыл бұрын
Love the first officer puppy bored with the information provided for passenger interest. Great video!
@jonibekislomjonov9298
@jonibekislomjonov9298 4 жыл бұрын
Working on my PPL, always a pleasure to watch your videos. Continue making them, appreciate it, Peter!!
@JuliaSmith1
@JuliaSmith1 3 жыл бұрын
The stick pusher sounds similar to the MCAS
@Ben-go1iq
@Ben-go1iq 3 жыл бұрын
It is pretty much similar, but much better executed
@the11fan33
@the11fan33 4 жыл бұрын
Very informative! I loved the visual👍
@MentourPilot
@MentourPilot 4 жыл бұрын
Great! I’m so happy you liked it!
@blatherskite9601
@blatherskite9601 4 жыл бұрын
Some VC10s had twisted wingtips to give lower angle of attack at the tip, meaning it was less easy to stall the tips, and so the aircraft could fly slower and also higher than the unmodified versions.
@robertsharpe9898
@robertsharpe9898 3 жыл бұрын
Very well explained !!! Very helpful!
@ToddKonicek
@ToddKonicek 4 жыл бұрын
This ties in well to coffin corner
@OldFliersGroup
@OldFliersGroup 4 жыл бұрын
I feared stall and spin training as a student. Much later I practiced these with a huge grin on my face. (not near the ground though!)
@blatherskite9601
@blatherskite9601 4 жыл бұрын
Stalled a glider at low altitude when landing - once only. That was a nervous few moments! Paid more attention after that :-(
@lennartthilly8271
@lennartthilly8271 4 жыл бұрын
Absolut lysande. Jag kommer ihåg tell - tales från den tiden då jag seglade, vilken fantastisk väg att visualisera luftflöde!!!! Detta var mycket bra.
@VoandopelosStates
@VoandopelosStates 4 жыл бұрын
Lovely coincidence. I've published a very similar video yesterday, in Portuguese, talking about the importance of understanding AoA, while demonstrating that in flight on my Cirrus. As always, great video, fellow pilot!
@andersharestad2998
@andersharestad2998 3 жыл бұрын
I would love to see you try getting out of a super stall in the flight simulator.
@Cameron.2458
@Cameron.2458 4 жыл бұрын
Yassss! Another video my day has been made! Love ur content Petter! 👍👍👍😊😊😊
@MentourPilot
@MentourPilot 4 жыл бұрын
Thank you!! I’m so glad you like it!
@Cameron.2458
@Cameron.2458 4 жыл бұрын
No, thank YOU sir. Your the absolutely fantastic one here! 😊
@champeess
@champeess 4 жыл бұрын
Couldn't ask for a better time as I'm studying for my Principles of Flight exam, thank you very much Mentour! :)
@4-7th_CAV
@4-7th_CAV 4 жыл бұрын
Without any doubt whatsoever, this has is the best presentation you have given!
@CMDRFandragon
@CMDRFandragon 4 жыл бұрын
Ive stalled out my planes in IL2. Friggin terrifying stuff, even in a video game lol. I got decent at recovering. Engine to idle, counter rudder, point the nose down and dive, gain speed, engine to max power and pull out carefully. P-51 loved to stall on me alot.
@kenoliver8913
@kenoliver8913 Жыл бұрын
P51 was the first plane with laminar flow wings. It was the secret of its huge range (=low drag) but a real problem when the flow ceases to be laminar ...
@airfoxtrot2006
@airfoxtrot2006 4 жыл бұрын
Great video Mentour i enjoyed it, i remember when i had a flight in a Piper PA28 and the pilot did a stall recovery demonstration it was fun! I love the captions you put on Patxi too, have a great weekend my friend.
@MentourPilot
@MentourPilot 4 жыл бұрын
Thank you! You too!
@mytech6779
@mytech6779 4 жыл бұрын
I'm transitioning to a PA28 next month. I hear they have very nice stall behavior, at least the older models without any wing taper.
@gemeen_aapje
@gemeen_aapje 4 жыл бұрын
The cushions are the icing on the cake. Nice vids mate. Thanks
@user-qr8ki8ue4i
@user-qr8ki8ue4i 4 жыл бұрын
I so enjoy this channel. Love the technical aspects most of all. Very educational.
@NetAndyCz
@NetAndyCz 4 жыл бұрын
In before I get notification:) Great video btw. Also mad respect to experimental pilots who try to get the new aeroplane to all sorts of unfavourable conditions such as stalls to see how it will behave.
@RobertHancock1
@RobertHancock1 4 жыл бұрын
Indeed, deep stall was discovered on the BAC 1-11 after a fatal crash during flight tests, and a number of other aircraft have crashed during flight testing due to deep stalls.
@Solent19
@Solent19 3 ай бұрын
yeah i'll just enter a flat spin to set up procedures to get out of it if I'm not completely absolutely without question totally beyond any meaningful help overwhelmingly (duck)ed
@jorditribo94
@jorditribo94 4 жыл бұрын
"Use stabilizer trim, make sure you don't use too much" I think he is talking to the MCAS system hahah
@gordonrichardson2972
@gordonrichardson2972 4 жыл бұрын
Jordi Tribo Everything about MCAS on the MAX touches on points addressed in this video, longitudinal stability, horizontal stabiliser, and elevator effectiveness.
@globalautobahn1132
@globalautobahn1132 4 жыл бұрын
Gordon Richardson And undermounted engines that are too large and throw off the center of gravity
@woongah
@woongah 4 жыл бұрын
Can't help but think the "sticky pusher" could have been a better alternative to the MCAS, but it would have required pilots training...
@roku_nine
@roku_nine 4 жыл бұрын
@@woongah someone tried to save cost then...... 🤔
@dabotz_draws
@dabotz_draws 4 жыл бұрын
@@roku_nine - Not so simple, much more roundabout and sneaky than simple penny saving. Using a sticky pusher would have made the 737 pretty much a different aircraft, in terms of certification process. It meant adding years to the MAX time-to-market, leaving too many companies tempted to buy the Airbus A320 NEO, which could be an issue down the road as most small companies tend to use planes from a single manufacturer, because it simplifies logistics. So, once an Airbus is inside a company... Boeing was so much in a hurry that they went with a botched automatic system that used a single AOA sensor, something that they likely knew had to be re-implemented down the line - as they did with a somewhat similar system used in the NG - but at the moment sped things up, as a single sensor system could be certified much faster. We all know how that turned out. If Boeing had accepted the inevitable delay and just went with a dual-input MCAS from the start - i.e. the fix that they are developing - we'd would all be just in awe of how gorgeous the MAX looks with his badass big engines...
@danielslaven2828
@danielslaven2828 4 жыл бұрын
Wow thank you for making it understandable to me to wrap my head around this...
@tuckermiddlebrook7096
@tuckermiddlebrook7096 4 жыл бұрын
Again you done a spectacular vlog with a really important aviation topic of concern @Mentour Pilot.
@lesturner9849
@lesturner9849 4 жыл бұрын
If I recall from my aerodynamics class, deep stalls tend to affect T-Tail configurations more, because the slipstream created by the wings renders the elevators useless.
@jaysmith1408
@jaysmith1408 4 жыл бұрын
Les Turner correct, on aircraft that have the horizontal stabilizers behind and slightly above the wing (the sheer majority), upon any major upset, the stabilizer will be freed from wing wash. If i’m not mistaken, however, the horizontal stabilizer can itself stall, rendering the elevator’s up authority ineffective. Note the Saab 340 and Metro’s that have the ‘cruciform’ tail. Can be deep stalled, at a higher angle than on a low mounted stabilizer, yet far lower than a T Tail (the purpose of which is either to clear tail mounted engines, or clear turbulent and highly variable prop blast.
@RaygunGaming
@RaygunGaming 4 жыл бұрын
And if I also recall, the propwash won't be hitting the horizontal stabiliser then either. But, I'm not 100% certain
@jaysmith1408
@jaysmith1408 4 жыл бұрын
Upsetraygun2 T Tail in deep stall? I would doubt it, the prop wash would still be blown roughly parallel to the engine’s axis, though would also be blown backwards with the still forward speed of aircraft, though the differental of prop blast speed to rearward speed would be so high, would likely pass behind the aircraft well below the stabilizer. The advantage of propellor over turbofan engine is that a turbofan can get compressor stall, and even be completely blocked, by high angle of attack at low airspeeds, a propellor however, being completely unconfined, really doesn’t care from which direction the air is coming, given that it is sitting completely unconfined, in it.
@RaygunGaming
@RaygunGaming 4 жыл бұрын
@@jaysmith1408 That's what I meant sorry bad phrasing. With the horizontal stabiliser directly aft of the prop, such as a c172 for example. You should be able to increase your throttle to create lift over the elevators. Where as with T-tails you can't.
@jaysmith1408
@jaysmith1408 4 жыл бұрын
Upsetraygun2 no worries, if i’m not mistaken, there is an advantage to having the stabilizer in the clear of prop blast, clear undisturbed air, less blown debris, not behind any fuel, oil, ice, other miscellaneous parts that have grown tired of being attached to the aircraft. However, primarily, this is disputed for extra weight, control complexity, and as you said, does not have the advantage of prop blast. The downside to the C172 method, is similar to the issue with the lockheed electra’s wing. The electra has massive propellors, and a fairly small wing. On good days, the propellors spin, effectively creating its own lift. On bad days, the propellors create drag, no thrust, and highly turbulent air, where the aircraft would almost fly better with the entire engine missing. Once the propwash is gone, so is the gross majority of the lift. At this point it’s the Ford/FCA/GM debate, six of one, there are different methods, they all work, depends on the application. As well, as demonstrated with flow separation, the advantage of being downstream of the propwash, is just that, only when directly downstream, minimal angle of attack. At a higher angle of attack, the stabilizer will no longer be downstream of the propellors, the flows from the propellors, and over the stabilizer, would be parallel, and adjacent.
@FlyToChina0071
@FlyToChina0071 4 жыл бұрын
Hi Mentour. Very interesting video (as usual). In the Danish Air force we use to fly the Draken, and when they were phased out, at number were sold to an American Flying School - if I remember correctly - as this airplane was actually able to recover from a super / deep stall (if they had altitude enough). I am not sure exactly how they did it. I have not been able to find any videos here on YT, where you can see it . Cheers Adam
@Blissenobiarela
@Blissenobiarela 4 жыл бұрын
Fantastic dog's thinking... Adding happyness to the already number one video!!! ALL the best from Brazil...
@Miezi11101990
@Miezi11101990 4 жыл бұрын
As always a BRILLIANT explanation
@Badgersj
@Badgersj 3 жыл бұрын
Love the doggy translation captions
@RaivoltG
@RaivoltG 4 жыл бұрын
"Look! Up in the sky! It's a bird, it's a plane falling like a leaf, it's Super Stall!"
@johnstaniszewski2467
@johnstaniszewski2467 4 жыл бұрын
Great video Petter, very informative.
@margauxj-broussel9186
@margauxj-broussel9186 4 жыл бұрын
Truly fascinating. Thanks.
@Shadowfax-1980
@Shadowfax-1980 4 жыл бұрын
2:15 I miss the days of flying on the 727
@richardreed9166
@richardreed9166 4 жыл бұрын
The stick pusher sounds a little like MCAS! Love your pronunciation of stabliser!
@gordonrichardson2972
@gordonrichardson2972 4 жыл бұрын
Richard Reed There are similarities, which Boeing were denying, because a stick pusher requires more certification changes, and type specific training.
@richardreed9166
@richardreed9166 4 жыл бұрын
@@gordonrichardson2972 very true. I bet they wish they could turn back time and pay out for that training now!
@patrickmonks9761
@patrickmonks9761 3 жыл бұрын
Absolutely wonderful
@jean-claudevijt4695
@jean-claudevijt4695 4 жыл бұрын
Nice to see you teached us something new about stalls. 👍
@DimitriPapadopoulos1
@DimitriPapadopoulos1 4 жыл бұрын
The deep stall is very well explained in this video. Congratulations. On the FlyJSim Boeing 727 for X-Plane flight simulator, with Ultra-realistic flight model, the "Deep Stall" is very well simulated. Stalling a B727 T-tail will get you in an unrecoverable "Deep stall" in no time, with no aileron, rudder, elevator and/or engine control. Unless the deep stall occurs at at 30,000ft, and the plane drops 20,000 ft.. it may by chance get into an attitude, that may allow to recover... and that's a maybe. It's nasty. Otherwise, very aerodynamically sleek, super-clean, fast and pleasant to fly T-Tail. Just don't stall a T-Tail because it will show you it's bad side, and will bite you!
@julosx
@julosx 4 жыл бұрын
Add to this that when you stall the wings and stabilizers you also stall the engines… So it's even less possible to recover from that.
@Jakaj99
@Jakaj99 4 жыл бұрын
This video reminded me of Tu-154 over Donetsk in 2006
@EriIaz
@EriIaz 4 жыл бұрын
And 1985 as well. It’s sad that Tu-154 never had yoke pusher installed, it could have prevented the deadliest disaster in history of the Soviet Union
@jansilha3623
@jansilha3623 4 жыл бұрын
you mean Pulkovo 612? Yeah, that was horrifying, a super stall and a subsequent flat spin.
@38911bytefree
@38911bytefree 4 жыл бұрын
Very interesintg vid. Thanks Peter.
@victornjoroge7671
@victornjoroge7671 3 жыл бұрын
Love your videos, they assist me in not forgetting things I learned but do not use on daily basis as a part-66. Also, another feature is aerodynamic twist of the wing, which works in the same way as a stall strip :)
@FrecklesAviation
@FrecklesAviation 4 жыл бұрын
Imagine not having Alpha Floor This post was made by the Airbus gang
@danstinson7687
@danstinson7687 4 жыл бұрын
Well, technically speaking every stall ends at one point or another.
@jrgenramdahl123
@jrgenramdahl123 4 жыл бұрын
737 max proved you correct
@richardreed9166
@richardreed9166 4 жыл бұрын
@@jrgenramdahl123 not sure the max crashes were due to stalling, quite the opposite actually.
@dr_jaymz
@dr_jaymz 4 жыл бұрын
If it happens in the flare you've just landed.
@welshpete12
@welshpete12 4 жыл бұрын
@@dr_jaymz No it does not , if it did you would came down with one hell of a bang ! In effect drop out of the sky . This is not recommended by the manufactures . :-)
@revenevan11
@revenevan11 3 жыл бұрын
@@welshpete12 yeah falling out of the sky voids your warranty 😬🤣
@marcob4630
@marcob4630 4 жыл бұрын
A great lesson indeed. Fortunately passengers don't realize how complicate and tricky flying can be. Avoiding stalls is an absolute must!
@toms2231
@toms2231 4 жыл бұрын
A very good video about deep stalls. I think it would be good to mention that most modern airplanes use wing "washout" to ensure the wing stalls inboard first and wing tips last. The wing structure is such that the angle of attack at the inboard end of the wing is greater than the angle of attack at the wing tip, ensuring that aileron control is maintained as long as possible in the stall. Also, while the 737 doesn't have a mechanical stick pusher it does have a somewhat equivalent system called "Feel Shift". As the airplane approaches a stall the first warning to the pilot is the stick shaker. If the angle of attack continues to increase the Elevator Feel system will increase the column force resisting the pilot's input thereby pushing the column in the nose down direction.
@demopem
@demopem 4 жыл бұрын
Note to self: Don't get into a stall 100 feet above the ground.
@bogdan_n
@bogdan_n 4 жыл бұрын
A stall at less than 1000 feet will only give you time to become religious, no matter the plane.
@mytech6779
@mytech6779 4 жыл бұрын
​@@bogdan_n I've recovered dozens of stalls with only 100ft of altitude lost, with and without flaps and power from full to idle,(starting at 2000ft) but I agree its best to avoid stalls near the ground. The design and loading of the plane matters quite a lot, a swept wing plane usually needs closer 1000ft because they tend to stall near the wingtips and because the higher airspeed typical of a swept wing design just increases the rate of everything including descent. Also flown tens of miles at the edge of stall, mushy controls due to low airspeed and the warning horn can get annoying, this is to simulate being too slow on approach or departure. Both are a standard part of training for all levels of pilot certification in the USA.
@bogdan_n
@bogdan_n 4 жыл бұрын
@@mytech6779 i didn't mean an "approaching stall", a "near stall", a "hint of stall". I meant a stall, a total loss of lift, and pitch authority.
@kyle333halfevil
@kyle333halfevil 4 жыл бұрын
@@mytech6779 : "dozens of stalls" Me: Remind me never to fly with you. Also I would say, Note to self: don't stall to begin with.
@isaaccool3183
@isaaccool3183 4 жыл бұрын
@@kyle333halfevil it's a part of flight training. There actually fun
@GSXone
@GSXone 4 жыл бұрын
Yay! 727 Mentour Edition!
@PistolP33
@PistolP33 Жыл бұрын
This happened to me under similar circumstances. I simply induced a spin by throttling down and applied hard-left aileron. After a 90° bank action, I slowly throttled and applied opposite aileron and was back to enjoying my day
@weiSane
@weiSane 4 жыл бұрын
Woah..I learned something new today again. Thanks mentour✌️
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