I like having a "standard" fir comparison. The 3 point molly is a good choice due to most players play the paa line. Keep up the good topics. 👍

just walked away with $200 playing for 2 hours with this strategy - thank you!!!

As someone that deals with controls, references, and standards everyday, I appreciate that you now have a standard to measure other strategies to. I can't wait to see the comparisons!

Molly may be OK as an easy to bet approach but it wouldn't be my choice on a choppy table - it will eat your lunch (and your bankroll). Why be subjected to taking random rolls for getting your next 2 bets through the COME? This has at least 3 major downsides; first you have to get it out of the COME to a random box number, second you can't pull those bets down at any time during a roll and third you have to have repeat numbers to win. For me, I've found using Place Bets directly on numbers I want has more major upsides over the Molly. First I can control when I want them ON or OFF both on the come out roll AND AFTER a point is established, second I select which numbers I want my money on (no random number from a roll), third I can pull all bets down after either a "number of rolls" or "number of hits" strategy - this is a HUGE advantage on a choppy table, you can decide pick how many numbers you want on each roll, you can vary how much you bet for each number AND you can pull them all down after 1, 2, 3 hits or ride them out for the entire roll. Sorry, but I can't buy into the "odds advantage" as being able to overcome the freedom to pick where and when my bets are handled. So as a standard, are you planning on running new strategies matched against the Molly as two separate bettors or are you going to show new strategies and indicate what the total ends up with using the same exact numbers rolled with the Molly? Either way should be interesting, although trying to figure out betting amounts to keep them equal might be awkward. Should be interesting ... roll on ...

Thanks for the videos Jeremy - you're my "go to" for all things craps. I think the standard comparison will be a good addition to your strategy videos.

Another great vid! Great idea for a standard. I see a lot of PL/odds coupled with 6/8 place as well. In fact, I use my own standard to measure against when testing out mine and your strategies: My wife Amy. She's a fairly new craps player who does her own random strategies with PL/odds, placing, come bets, fields bets, pretty much an out of the box recreational player. I have yet to beat her, lol! Once I find the strategy that beats her consistently, that's gonna be the one

Like the concept! Love the video production quality. Always top of the line!

I’m saving this to send to my friends explaining Pass, Come & Odds

Love that come out you rolled. What I do is an eight dollar horn along side the pass line if the seven rolls, just replace the horn. If your horn wins, parlay the whole bet ONCE. If it wins again, chase it away with $20 increases on the horn. And a $20 hop on the hardways. Just as you stated, 33 percent of time the game is won or lost on the come out. I can hit three or four hardways or horn bets in a row several times before I or another shooter has a fifteen or longer roll....

Missed that 2 for the ATS good roll for you!

like the 2 pt molly per john scarne in his book

Love the standard! The Molly makes me money!

"The Standard" did not have the standard ColorUp strategy destroying rolls. Excellent.

play the standard but have often gone past 3, which chews up the bankroll on a bad run. Thanks for the clear video.

Great video! First time seeing the 3 point molly strategy. I did find it interesting that at a 3x-4x-5x table, the max odds wins you the same amount as it would if you placed the same bet (more on the 4 and 10 even if you place it: would typically buy those). In a $10 line bet with max odds, you would get $70 if you hit your numbers. Similarly for a place bet, you would get $72-$70-$70 off of a $40-$50-$60 place bets. The payout is more for a placed number as you move away from max odds with the same bet. However, you will win more with max odds at a 10x or higher table. Hopefully I did my math right...

This is in no way a critique of the video or channel but it’s fascinating to me to watch craps content creation go in cycles. There really just isn’t that much unique information to talk about and so it seems like in 20 years we will still be watching new videos about strategies, house edge, etc.

That’s a decent standard. I would use this at a table with 10x odds or better. Of course I’d have to come with a significant bankroll because the twists and turns will be intense if not insane.

I do like 3 point molly. Gives you a chance to feel the roll before all your money is on the table. Helps protect against those PSO's. I usually do this with a $15 or up table, lower than that i'll likely risk the $44 inside.

Good choice Molly. Solid strategy mathematically. Very useful benchmark for evaluating all others.

I usually play this strategy. It can get bankroll intensive, but when the dice repeat, it's all good. A couple of points. I like to make a $1 Any Craps bet on the Come Out. It's a low percentage play, but I'm looking to establish a point. After a second hit like the repeat 4 at 17:00, I would press $5. I also toss a $5 to the stick for all the Hard Ways, putting the dealers on one of them with the change. Carry on!

Good idea (especially with your past record in dooming strategies😂) might be some old posts to revisit by popular demand

This is a great idea to create a standard. I assume you will play 2 shooters at a time to compare each system from now on? Boy this was a rough string of rolls. Never saw so many craps rolled before the point.

Played the 3pt Molly for about 20 years and probably broke even over all that time. So use of this as a 'Standard' strategy is sound logic as a new strategy qualifier. Interestingly, Molly players are great gauge of table temperature. Look at their rack, cold/choppy they're counting what's left (slow drain), warm table they're vocal & happy (they need it), after a hot shoot (if they're smart they walk). Currently, I'm having fun playing the 3pt with a DC cover bet, difference is the Pass/Come bets are parlayed once after a win instead of odds. Wins more consistently, small bankroll & most sessions I can run a negative progression on the DC (careful of bad runs) Cheers

Love the videos, now the real challenge is finding a $10 table

I like the 4 horsemen playing the dont then the come that you showed.

This is my standard strategy. I usually vary the amount of odds based on how the table is doing. Single odds for choppy, double for hot. I even go no odds on the come if it's really cold. I always hedge with a $5 horn high Yo.

string of 4's helped. how r u going to compare? this strategy won X, 3 point M would have won Y? U would need to roll side by side? lot of work. thanks for posting.

I’d like to see that system with the don’t pass and come either break even on a seven or grab a couple numbers then dc couple times . Just like to see it rolled . Great videos as always thanks

The irony of the lowest house edge strategy requiring the biggest bankroll- almost like the casino created the strategy themselves. Never have understood people thinking this is the best strategy- $66 inside vs. 3 come bets with full odds...one player has the four most likely numbers to roll, the other has three random numbers. Good job explaining it, though- come bets are not easy to explain!

Tried this on Crapsee (new to it as well), lost everything. Changed to the Don’t Pass and Don’t Come and made out like a bandit

Play don't pass,then don't come,then odds on don't come. Sprinkle in field bets,end of text.......

This is a GREAT idea.

If your going use this as a standard then play it with the other strategies at the same time see what make most money then what ever make the most money at the end of the year use that as the standard next year two systems at the same time all ways cool to see 🎉

I Learned a lot in this video. Thank you

Great explanation. I appreciate the video.

Haven't watched the whole thing yet, just up to the point where you start rolling at the $10 level. If this is to be the standard going forward, does this mean that, for all the strategies you roll out, you'll show them at the $10 level to maintain that constant?

New to all of this. Is a Horn Bet allowed, and minimum bet size? Also can a Field Bet be played?

I always chuckle to myself when I’m at a craps table, and I see people playing come bets. You don’t take house edge to the bank you take winnings to the bank. Anytime you have to hit a number twice before the seven you are decreasing your odds of winning. If you only want to stay and play all day and maybe break even have at it. I go to win. I have been playing a version of what Brian now calls split the sisters for years and have taught it to many people to play it That’s the way to go. I take two to three hits and then regress to the house minimum on the sixth or eighth just to stay in the hand and not be bored. When playing craps if you stay up for more than the 2 to 3 hits, you’re going to be a loser. Look back at the video you did years ago called “Are you a loser?”

Apologies are acknowledged. Can we expect a why I love come bets video to replace an earlier video on Color Up? 😊

Im hoping you do a vs Squeeze Play and then Split the Sisters. Or even all three at the same time if you can manage it.

Hi Jeremy, it's always good to have a new strategy or a version of an older one to try out in the low risk home practice game, lol. The question I have has been asked a bit. I may have missed it or your answer, if so I apologise. I have the impression when using crapsee you can enter numbers for the rolls as well as the current bets. Would this be feasible for your set-up? It would be great to see a same time comparison of "the standard" and one or two of the many out there. I am well aware I have no idea what it takes to run a channel as you do. Thanks for everything you do to show more options!

these videos are great thanks!

I may not understand, but my table at my local is a 3x4x5x. Yet i tried this strategy, and the dealers were saying the only advantage is at max odds. They were saying to put $50 in odds on top of my $5 come bet that landed on 6. They were also allowing $30 behind my $5 line bet. Why were they allowing me to put down 10x odds in the come and 6x odds on the line.

Great video, Jeremy. As you probably saw when you were visiting in the Seattle area, our casinos allow 10x odds. My bankroll would not handle max odds up here. So, what would you suggest for reasonable odds using the 3 point Molly strategy?

Any pass line strategies would do well when you throw like that! Lol 🤣

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Do you just reverse this for the dark side meaning you do don't pass max odds and don't come? What is the advantages and disadvantages of doing it that way how does the math work?

Geez I simulate playing at home with a given and I get killed most of the time. Long rolls happen but not enough to up.

No summation of negative EV bets can ever be positive EV.

Brillant! Great 💡 ❤

Jeremy, since you do not believe in DI and your strategies are for random rollers I suggest the standard would be minimum place bets on 5-6-8-9. Hit and collect no pressing - no regression as simple as simple gets. In addition do NOT work the comeout. It may not be the least EV but I guarantee you that is how the majority of craps players play. It's your channel so if you want to reference the 3 point Molly as "The Standard" do that. It's like saying the 1988 Ford Escort should be the standard that we compare cars to today😂😂 Since you believe ALL strategies are negative EV (as I believe) make the standard something current and practical lie a 6-7-8 hybrid 🤔

lets say I want to play dont pass, would I bet 2 comes still? or 2 dont come?

How would you say this compares to your "play all day" strategy of 4 bets each game (1 don't pass, 2 come bets, and 1 don't come bet)?

I had a guy next to me play this at a 10x odds table $50. $500 odds in for $5000 out over $20000. In a few hours. Great strategy. But it can go sideways and make you sad lol

A question for you if I may ? How does someone get you to show their strategy on the channel?

Thanks for pointing out that it's the 'lowest house edge' and not the 'best bet' or 'best strategy'. Have seen so many new players confound 'lowest house edge' with 'best chances of winning'.

Why is it called 3 point molly? Like who's molly? Or was the inventor trippin' on mollies 😂

@ColorUp Does that mean that you will be playing both strategies at the same time? It would be helpful to see them both in action against the same dice rolls.

When can you put 100x odds? I have seen that in multiple videos online but never in person.

Can you show the DP way to play this

Hop the seven on the come out to hedge your come bets

Nice

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2,3, and 12 in a row.. wow. Never seen that. Terrible luck on this shooter. 🤣🤣🤣

That’s 38% win Most gamblers want to win 25-30% a day so this video at 23 minutes you probably rolled 17-18 your up 9 % more then the average person wants to win a day so I say not a bad day of gambling

If you truly want to have a 'standard', then generate 100 random rolls and apply the exact same rolls to each 'system' to compare outcomes.

Crap check

I can't help but feel you would have won a lot more money playing the field with all of your rolls. lol

Why not just place all the bets (you can choose your numbers) and do $40 on the 4/10, $50 on the 5/9 and $60 on the 6/8, which is the same size of the bets here. I think you get a better payout on the placed 4/10 at 9:5, giving you $72 payout as opposed to the $70 payout of the method shown here?

GREAT job of coming back! However, I AM going to CONTINUE to criticize you for NOT protecting your Pass line and Come bets by just putting $2 measly dollars on craps EVERY TIME you make those bets! Look at how many times you lost your Pass line bets by the large number of craps you threw on the come-out rolls! If you would've done that, you would win $14 EVERY time and MAKE an ADDITIONAL $4, and that makes a SIGNIFICANT difference!!! And let's say you establish your point and lose your $2 craps bet. SO, WHAT because: You are GOING to make MUCH more when you HIT your Pass line or come bets with the odds, so it's BETTER to lose $2 - that you're going to make back ANYWAY - than to KEEP LOSING $10!!!!! It's a NO-BRAINER!!!!! To this day i STILL DON'T understand why you DON'T protect those bets???!!! Your content is GREAT, and I LOVE watching your videos, but if you have a flaw - and this one IS a MAJOR one in MY opinion - I am going to point it out! I feel you are doing a disservice to your viewers by NOT doing this or mentioning this and I suggest going forward that you ALWAYS start putting a craps bet with you Pass line and Come bets!