House Stark of Winterfell, former kings of the North Their Conquest over every other family in the kingdom Contact ► whycreatevideos@gmail.com Twitter ► whycreator art by -
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@JesusChristMarie5 ай бұрын
To sum up most Northerners opinion of the Starks, I’ll give you this quote said by an unnamed Liddle in ASOS: “When there was a Stark in Winterfell, a maiden girl could walk down the kingsroad in her name-day gown and still go unmolested, and travelers could find fire, bread, and salt at many an inn and holdfast. But the nights are colder now, and doors are closed ... It was different when there was a Stark in Winterfell. But the old wolf's dead and young one's gone south to play the game of thrones, and all that's left us is the ghosts.”
@simonalexander23545 ай бұрын
This quote hits the nail on the head
@melodyogonna5 ай бұрын
People mistake Ned Stark's calm demenor as the standard Stark behaviour, but Ned Stark is actually an outlier, an exception if you will, probably why they call him the silent wolf or the shy wolf. Starks are harsh, brutal, reckless, and very very dangerous - with an over-inflated sense of what is right and wrong. All of Ned's children except Sansa and maybe Bran (very debatable) embolden this normal Stark attitude. All of Ned's other siblings as well.
@shaunyg41565 ай бұрын
I think it's the arryn influence that softened him a bit
@TiktokBro1545 ай бұрын
That's true that is also why I'm looking forward to Cregan Stark in HOTD season 2
@sebastos76935 ай бұрын
Ned's calm demeanour isn't what separates him from other Starks. Some Starks like Alaric were cold and distant. What separates Ned from his ancestors is his mercy, his refusal to sacrifice the few in favour of the many. If someone like Cregan Stark or Rodrik Stark had been put in his position after Robert's death, he would have struck immediately, taking charge of the children and securing the castle. Instead Ned waited until the King was dead and warned Cersei in advance that he was going to pass the crown to Stannis.
@whoreofdragonstone10315 ай бұрын
that’s also bc Ned is culturally an Arryn, influence from childhood to young adulthood cannot be understated in shaping one’s values
@justinwillingale20864 ай бұрын
Ned learnt from his older brother and father, his older brother who hanged himself in a cell trying to escape and his father who was set alight by the mad king all rushed in without a second thought. Stark hotheads died with them. Sansa is calculating bran sees everything traits the starks needed but lacked. rob didn't have foresight like his brother Bran if he did he would be alive. As we saw in the battle of the bastards being a hot headed stark will get you killed if Sansa didn't show up the boltons would of claimed victory.
@aicchi12345 ай бұрын
A lot of the audience get this dissonance with how savage and brutal Stark History was. Even I sometimes have to remind myself that Ned was an outlier since he was fostered in the Vale.
@notyourproblem4745 ай бұрын
And also because Cat was a Tully that worshipped the new gods. She raised her children in a very southern way, Sansa is the best example. And sometimes even Robb had tendencies of this, although not that many. Ned literally built the first temple ever to the new gods in Winterfell, just for his wife. The kids were born with the option to choose which religion they wanted to follow. But I don't think Cat would've given them any chance. The girls even had a Septa.
@aicchi12345 ай бұрын
@@notyourproblem474 I agree with most of this, though Cat definitely gave them a choice for religion as I'm quite sure that Ned would not stand for Cat shunning the Old Gods in his own home. The septas were more for teaching the girls ways of the southron ladies. But yes, this generation of Starks are way more Southron than the usual thanks to Ned marrying into the Tullys and Ned himself being exposed to the Arryns/Bobby B in his younger years.
@alexei38035 ай бұрын
The Starks should've pulled a Castamere on the Boltons.
@AnarchoCatBoyEthan5 ай бұрын
Definitely agree the Boltons shoulda been wiped out a long time ago. Just look at how loyal the Manderly house is. If the starks had taken a small house and raised them up in the place of the Boltons i’m sure they’d have lost a great enemy and made a very loyal friend. Who would protest?
@eliseotorres79585 ай бұрын
Playing Devils Advocate,You never know what can happen tho, they might just raise a smaller house that can possibly defeat them or cause them more trouble in the future. Look at the Karstarks, they have mixed blood with the starks, practically kin. Yet that didnt stop them from betraying their kings trust (Rickard killing the boys unjustly, I understand the reasoning behind it still). In a generation or 2, best friends/family can turn into bitter enemies. Look at the fossoways. This is all a “what if” or “could be” of course, but better the devil you know than the devil you don’t i guess. I wouldve killed the boltons down to the babes, but thats knowing what i know as a reader lol.
@gavin39155 ай бұрын
Probably those loyal to the Red Kings, though with how brutal the ancient Starks were, I doubt that if one of the Starks decided to wipe them out, any loyal to the Boltons would soon be next
@havok62805 ай бұрын
The Starks are not "colonizers". They created no colonies. They were conquerors. Those words are not synonyms.
@Inziladuun5 ай бұрын
Thank you! I'm so tired of hearing that word thrown around. If anything, the Targaryens were colonizers, not the Starks
@acemaster95665 ай бұрын
@@Inziladuunwait how the Targaryens are colonizers. They just did the exact same thing
If not for colonization, the majority of the world would still be centuries behind those they call "colonizers". It was brutal, but that was the way of the world until just a few centuries ago. Colonizers drag the superior tech into all of the world. Calling it a bad thing is so cringy and very, very reductionist.
@thalmoragent93445 ай бұрын
@Inziladuun Not exactly. They're not Conquering Westeros to add it to Valyria's holdings... Valyria as an Empire is gone, the Targaryens are just Conquerors. Westeros didn't get added to the Valyrian Empire or anything.
@tim2112925 ай бұрын
my theory is that they were called the kings of winter because during winter they held the only viable lands to live, glass gardens (or possibly an earlier equivalent) and hot springs, so during winter time the starks helped the others in exchange for concessions. when summer came they all went back to their kingdoms but crossing the starks could mean being banned from safety next winter. the starks used their geographic location as a power move. once they controlled the north they no longer were just kings of the winter time but kings of the north. perhaps the times the boltons sacked winterfell was because they were banned from safety in the upcoming winter and decided to attack in order to secure safety for themselves, those winters would have been terrible and this is partially why the boltons are hated, the guys that fuck up winter for everyone do not go down well in history. on top of that, i have a theory about the boltons being starks that did not get the skinchanging powers. the bitterness meant they acted out the skinchanging literally by flaying starks and wearing them as a mockery and justice for the magic they didnt recieve.
@shmoppetrocks5 ай бұрын
Great theory !
@VAL4205 ай бұрын
I also think the Boltons are the only group in the family to get no warging, maybe even intentionally disallowed from breeding in to obtain it. I think when Old Nan lists the names the Night's King could have been, she's naming families that came from the union with the Corpse Queen.
@dromankass86555 ай бұрын
I was always rather suspicious about the Blackwood claim that they were driven out of the North by the Starks. Houses remember ancient insults and feuds and pass them down from father to son like a good wine. Look at how the Manderleys recall how House Peak drove them from the Reach, and in their time of need, the Starks took them in. That sort of thing is remembered. But the Blackwoods of Raventree Hall seem to have a good relationship with the Starks, fighting with the Blacks in the Dance of the Dragons, and joining their forces in both Robert's Rebellion and the Kingdom of the Young Wolf. No issue, no complaint, no 'hey, you drove us out of the Wolfwood and forced us to live down south, and we remember.' But there is none of that, and their are certainly more loyal than the Brakens, as Raventree was one of the last castles to hold out for the Starks even after the Red Wedding, and even after Rivenrun had surrendered to Jamie. So I think that the Blackwoods had a more amicable agreement with the Starks and left the North for some other reason and the tale of them being driven out is just a cover. Perhaps they went South on the orders of the Starks to secure some ancient sites of the First Men or the Children. They are rather close to both the God's Eye and the Isle of Faces, and Old Stones, not to mention that massive weirwood they build their hall around . . .
@guardsman-against-the-chaos5 ай бұрын
I think you might be right there good theory
@anubhavghosh45565 ай бұрын
I read a good fanfic once which Explains this... Ofcourse that wasn't cannon though
@simonalexander23545 ай бұрын
The Starks biggest mistake was allowing the Boltons to bend the knee they should have wiped out the entire bloodline Edit... The Boltons had more than enough chances to change their ways and bend the knee, but they kept returning to flaying and wearing the skins of dead Starks, no matter how many chances the Starks gave them they wanted Winterfell and the North for themselves... leaving the Starks only one choice which unfortunately they failed to carry out with Ned as head of the family...now had that been Brandon what was left of the Boltons would have now been displayed outside the Dreadfort as a warning to other houses that don't honour their words of fealty
@whycreate5 ай бұрын
Ahh a Tywin fan
@simonalexander23545 ай бұрын
@@whycreate busted!!😂
@viralshorts95965 ай бұрын
starks stick to protocol. they don't do unorthodox shit like the lannisters
@leemarshall3485 ай бұрын
@@viralshorts9596they wiped out the greystarks. They were pretty brutal in the past
@Kriskazam5 ай бұрын
Im pretty sure they keep the Boltons around because they can defend their part of the North. Despite the rebellions, they’ve been put down every time. If you look at a map of Westeros and look at The Boltons holdings you’ll see what I mean.
@adrianbergstrand93865 ай бұрын
You should make a video about theories how the different houses in Westeros got their Valyrian Steel weapons. We never get to know how the Starks got Ice for example
@sharontargaryen5415 ай бұрын
Good one
@relldog85 ай бұрын
Great idea
@alfredborden56755 ай бұрын
Incredible
@soupeverywhere95655 ай бұрын
Fantastic
@rickplayzyt62774 ай бұрын
Outstanding idea!
@swetcan92685 ай бұрын
personally i think the feud between the Boltons and the Starks after the Boltons bent the knee is greatly overstated. as far as we know the Boltons only rebeled 2 times in several thousand years. once with the Greystarks and another where the Dreadfort held for 2 years under seige until a peace was reached. other than that the Boltons have been quiet, and seemingly dutiful. fighting against the Arryns and the sistermen in the war across the water, and before that fighting alongside the Starks against the Andal invader Argos Seven star. they presumably marched with Torrhen Stark against Aegon the Conqueror. and Barba Bolton asked for food from Aegon III at the maidens da ball on behalf of the north. i think Roose Boltons actions can be best explained by Roose Boltons personality moreso than any enduring Bolton-Stark Feud. compare this to actual rebellious houses, like the Greyjoys, Peakes, or Yronwoods. each which rebelled more than the Boltons in 300 years than they did over the course of thousands.
@ballsonyourmomschin17813 ай бұрын
I also don’t think that roose Bolton would have dared to even think about revolting if Ned stark was still alive
@Divine_Chareka5 ай бұрын
Brandon of the Bloody Blade was in god mode
@whathell6t5 ай бұрын
@Divine_Chareka But! Can Brandon of the Bloody Blade go toe-to-toe against Berserker Lancelot? It’s the background character shown on 0:49 - 0:56 and 1:17 - 1:20 .
@zhangeldy40972 ай бұрын
I feel like Tywin would make a good OG Stark. Bloodthirsty, calculative, prideful, with disproportional levels of retaliation, literally butchering your enemies into submission with acts of atrocities so great you cower your own banner man into loyalty.
@estiux91835 ай бұрын
One thing that George Martin could have made in the north is to create a third “city” (like Barrowtown and White Harbour that have the state of a city) in the west coast of the north with naval power (small) to put in check the raid of the Iron born
@acemaster95665 ай бұрын
Yeah and he should have the Starks not burn their entire fleet in the sunset sea and never rebuilt it.
@dld69595 ай бұрын
Whycreate, thanks for making all these videos, they're entertaining, interesting and useful. Please continue cooking bro, you're blessed for this.
@jdfigs59165 ай бұрын
The thumbnail looks epic
@surrealbirch49175 ай бұрын
Keep up this masterpices coming man, you do some amazing job at keeping the fandom alive
@estiux91835 ай бұрын
Last time I checked there were at least 54 houses in all the north (that if you take the semi canon sources like the tale tale game that mentions houses Forrester and Whitehill or houses they mention in the show like Tywin when mention house durmond or house Mason that fought with the Hornwoods and Mormonts in the battle of the bastards)
@robertsmiley22075 ай бұрын
I didn't know about Brandon of the bloody blade but I absolutely love that name 😎
@franciscojimenezcervantes19824 ай бұрын
I luv so much the style on your videos, it’s an amazing work and you have an incredible way of explaining, thanks so much for being the best asoiaf lore channel.
@Brandonhayhew5 ай бұрын
being Ruthless is a standards everyone carries out
@NicoCoeurDeLion4 ай бұрын
Starks gathered magic. Married the daughters or wives of the men they killed. Their family history is so interesting
@OverLordthe1st5 ай бұрын
Great video. It would be cool if you could do this for all the southern kingdoms. The Riverlands has a long and bloody history and it would make for a cool story with visuals.
@michaelsalerno93424 ай бұрын
Love your channel man
@Njeezynjabs5 ай бұрын
"The Fishers of Stony Shore" but go and put the sigil near the White Knife, bro stony shore is near where you put the Ryders
@Sariaea5 ай бұрын
agh its a bit late for me, ill be back in the morning whycreatington
@whycreate5 ай бұрын
Appreciate you Sariaea
@Sariaea4 ай бұрын
@@whycreate I'm home
@aegorbittersteel21545 ай бұрын
The Starks messed the Backwoods up.
@tobyziemba68525 ай бұрын
It’s 2:30 AM I’m eating McDonald’s and watching brand new WhyCreate ❤
@EnriqueAquinas5 ай бұрын
Same but im eating ice cream xD
@donjuan96025 ай бұрын
Love ur videos
@Cheattoe5 ай бұрын
Brandon the blades journey: no inns no castles no fucks given along the way baby
@ayiza85115 ай бұрын
They were awesome then Ned became lord and choose honour before family
@thewargodking54635 ай бұрын
Could you do a video like this for the other houses by chance? Also did the Great Empire of the Dawn actually exist?
@hezekiaB4 ай бұрын
“That it was since known as red lake ever since”. Masterfully written.
@WallNutBreaker5244 ай бұрын
Very nice.
@juliuswilliams44475 ай бұрын
Thanks!
@Kaligula-Klaudijus5 ай бұрын
I don't really understand the timeline. Brandon stark existed before the long night. But the long night lasted one generation. And Brandon should have died. But Brandon built winterfell.
@oxosoleil5 ай бұрын
They're all different people with the same name. There are 16 different Brandon Starks mentioned throughout the series and associated texts.
@durrangodsgrief65032 ай бұрын
@@oxosoleilor the timeline is messed up on purpose cause how to round towers like storms end exist when the andals were never their
@johnnyfortner47285 ай бұрын
You meant conquerors not colonizers.
@rykerhoppe47895 ай бұрын
Brandon of the bloody blade being Brandon the builder dad or ancestor is a reach conspiracy
@thalmoragent93445 ай бұрын
House Stark more than ok with killing off the men of most of their rivals, but the Boltons who have skinned their kin alive get off scott free? Mind you, I don't agree that entire House's should be wiped out like that, not everyone from a family is the same or anything like that, my point is that I feel that the Boltons were the worst of the Stark's rivals almost continuously yet got off the easiest.
@cvox6075 ай бұрын
I think one of the biggest slept on mysteries is how come the technology barely advanced in the asoiaf universe even after ten thousands of yeas
@kingtorrhenstarkstark53115 ай бұрын
Lack of mass education, constant warring, the lack of any combustible resources in mass like oil and coal, and probably magic making technology not a forefront.
@mentallyinsane33445 ай бұрын
Magic is why. There's less incentive for technology to advance when magic can do a lot of what technology did for people back in the days of when sciences started to advance for us. I think technology is also advancing at a good pace now since maesters have never had more power because of the downfall of valyria.
@jldldr39335 ай бұрын
Author asthethics. Don't think too hard on it.
@tim2112925 ай бұрын
weather, they seem to be incredibly advanced in logistics and storage but poor in everything else because they have years of winter to plan for all the time
@behurastudio5 ай бұрын
That’s just a thing in Fiction, Dark Souls tech stays the same throughout the games even though untold thousands of years pass, and in LOTR Saruman only starts using gunpowder as weapons after the world is like several thousand years old
@imnotchilla94824 ай бұрын
now that i think about it, the north is the only kingdom that has a east AND west coast, dorne kind of does but it's blocked by oldtown and the arbor whereas the north is basically above everything
@hunterolson11625 ай бұрын
We remember
@user-qt2zp2ms5l2 ай бұрын
Yep, as long as you bend the knee you'll live. Rebel Bolton Lords were smart haha. I honestly think the starks were almost savages and brutes they'd kill anyone who threatens them. Honor came to House Stark because out of fear of the Dragons😅
@RhmnLego4 ай бұрын
I've heard that before the Starks , there was a family who ruled the north called Frost, that went extinct
@barneyboyle6933Ай бұрын
Wouldn’t it be crazy if Brandon the Builder wasn’t actually a Stark or even a man but instead a child of the forest who house stark revered for his contributions to the wall?
@AlanOLeary2095 ай бұрын
The Red Kings of House Bolton ⚔️
@baronbrummbar86914 ай бұрын
Brandon the builder didn´t start the Starks he just build larg parts of winterfell (and the wall and stormsend) - but the starks ruled for so long nobody knows when they started - but brandon definitley didn´t just come from nothing all houses are either slowly build over time or they took stuff over (like the tyrells or lanisters)
@nightman17904 ай бұрын
I always wondered how the kingdoms of Westeros were divided before the times of the long night and what houses existed back then.
@SHARKVADERS5 ай бұрын
WC!!!!!
@oneiromancer91985 ай бұрын
i ain’t ever been this early lmaoo
@AdityaSingh-iz5zs4 ай бұрын
I think in the books , future bride of stark's nephew will help them with her 3 giant lizards
@gatorman82355 ай бұрын
Slow down a lil bit an add some music 🎶 behind your speech 💬 👌 like the Chanel
@ordomachinum401614 күн бұрын
Word humans do what humans does
@nniicckk12233 ай бұрын
Conquest of people with shared heritage is not colonization. Conquest on it's own has nothing to do with colonization.
@Himi-3 ай бұрын
IMO, we need GOT animated series which follows the books the book word by word. Always found those anime recaps and these sketch too appealing for it to not be a series.
@JoshuaHenelyThornhill5 ай бұрын
I love the Starks to bits but damn it sounds like shit to grow up in them northern lands
@kjellduteweert92625 ай бұрын
White hills I thought also worship the seven. Or I'm wrong?
@lawrencereid27675 ай бұрын
First to take the Black 🖤
@melanoidmarkus5 ай бұрын
👍🏾👌🏾
@debamlyabanerjee40675 ай бұрын
Can you make a video on lannister conquest of westerlands
@helmholtzwatson8375 ай бұрын
4:35 oh no, colonizers!
@danielsantiagourtado34305 ай бұрын
Love your content! And the starks should have wiped out the Boltons.
@durrangodsgrief65035 ай бұрын
their conquers not colonizers
@dineshbalu61075 ай бұрын
They are absolutely Colonizers bro...
@havok62805 ай бұрын
@@dineshbalu6107what colony did they create?
@durrangodsgrief65032 ай бұрын
@@dineshbalu6107colonizing would be north men landing it and making a home in essos they conquered not colonised
@santiogo3695 ай бұрын
The boltons lands should’ve been halved after the greystark rebellion. and the new land should’ve been given to someone loyal to them. That way that new house would be forever loyal to them and the boltons fighting strength would be reduced. The boltons would also have to split their focus on 2 houses instead of just house stark.
@houseadams48415 ай бұрын
Every race and culture colonized… It’s human nature to expand.
@danibee99434 ай бұрын
Not all human cultures felt the need to expand or colonize
@UnnecessaryEyeViewingGarbage5 ай бұрын
Did the Lannisters bribe you into making that thumbnail
@thetalesofelbek70425 ай бұрын
Starks past is super bloody, he is right with the thumbnail.
Starks are conquerors not colonizers theirs a big difference in the word.
@adamgonzales41885 ай бұрын
Starks are punching bags
@dineshbalu61075 ай бұрын
House Bolton is still a Kickass House and one of the only Unchanged House in the Northern History even with their Psychotic and Brutal Tendencies unlike the Starks...
@kingtorrhenstarkstark53115 ай бұрын
I'd say the Starks are still the same, just with a greater emphasis on their honorable side.
@leemarshall3485 ай бұрын
@@Darius-_ they did, it was just a more brutal sort of honor. Cregan Stark is a perfect glimpse into what “honor” meant to the starks before ned.
@maylabrown45845 ай бұрын
@@Darius-_Starks past honor in the past was basically like “You were strong in battle, we will only have half your family eaten alive by wolves instead of all of you” Which is yknow, still a bit better than the Boltons right?
@dineshbalu61075 ай бұрын
@@kingtorrhenstarkstark5311 I wouldn't go that far...
@dineshbalu61075 ай бұрын
@@maylabrown4584 U said it perfectly 💯💯...
@vitoandolini12342 ай бұрын
The Starks are conquerors not colonizers. You can’t colonize people of the same culture as you
@mythez604Ай бұрын
You can't colonize people you colonize lands smh
@d.k.95115 ай бұрын
My favorite house in the North are Boltons. Such a bunch of nasty characters. Martin said there are no good or bad characters, only grey but he did them dirty. Well he needed that, if they are not so horrified the today Starks would not be potrayed as an opposite. On the other hand Boltons even oppressed they have a right to fight.
@FoxxyFatima4 ай бұрын
Bethany Bolton seems ok, lol.
@nadia-jv5ro5 ай бұрын
not the AI art…
@Sariaea5 ай бұрын
First
@thatiowan35814 ай бұрын
Your mom was my first
@Sariaea4 ай бұрын
@@thatiowan3581 D:
@tokivikerness88635 ай бұрын
Oh no! Colonizers! What will the Indians think of me when they see a house stark poster in my room.
@dineshbalu61075 ай бұрын
See this is why I dislike the current Starks in GOT.. They should rename themselves as Arryns, Especially that Ned Arryn instead of Ned Stark, who forgot every single part of his History and changed his and his Family's lifestyle influenced by Jon Arryn's Honour, whose House words is literally "As High as Honour"... The Starks are used to be just Dumb, Illiterate, Hotheaded Beings but with Terrible temper and Wild, Savage and Great Fighters, Builders and Leaders. Whereas the Current Starks in GOT are just honourable Fools with no Stomach for Brutality and Savagery that their Ancestors literally had for thousands and thousands of Years...
@havok62805 ай бұрын
"There never lived a Stark who forgot an oath." The Starks were renown for their honor during the Dance, almost 200 years before Ned met Jon Arryn.
@kingtorrhenstarkstark53115 ай бұрын
No stomach for brutality? The starks use necessary brutality not excessive brutality. Enough to make an example for everyone, but not too much that everyone hates them. The starks are brutal, yes, even the modern starks with Ned forcing his children to watch him execute someone. Furthermore STARKS are not dumb, illiterate, hotheads. They are smart and understanding rulers who honor they're work and the people under them. The reason why so many people follow the starks to this day is because the STARKS HONOR AND UNDERSTAND THEIR DUTY. If you want an example of brutal rulers look at Tywin and the Boltons. Tywn was brutal, but the moment he died everyone around him suddenly wanted to kill the Lannisters because Tywin's brutality wasn't offset with honor or Charisma unlike the Starks. Boltons, their brutality had led to many distrusting them to a point that they needed outside help from the Frey's and the Crown to even have the ability to rule over the North, something the STARKS didn't need because the lords under them liked their honor and respected their way of justice.
@dineshbalu61075 ай бұрын
@@havok6280 Yeah they weren't Oathbreakers like many of them. But I wouldn't go as far as Honourable lol...
@dineshbalu61075 ай бұрын
@@kingtorrhenstarkstark5311 Buddy, U r literally describing the Starks of Previous Gen lol. And that's exactly my Point as well. My point from the Start is this only, The Current Starks in GOT time are more Arryns than Ancient Starks. Period...
@dineshbalu61075 ай бұрын
@@kingtorrhenstarkstark5311 And this dilemma was all started by your Boy Torrhen lol, The King who Knelt or should I say the Smartest Man in the Kingdoms or a Coward??
@jay-t10305 ай бұрын
Unpopular Opinion : The Blackwoods should be rulers of the North...
@Jose_LopezCasillas5 ай бұрын
Colonizers? You mean conquerors.
@felipeseguraiv25785 ай бұрын
Love the videos and return to the genere but change the maps back wtf is that I need a magnifying glass to behold such finery cmon now wtf happened there