Some parts are cut out whenever Sabbar points towards military. That speaks volumes about state of affairs in Pakistan 😂

Just one correction for Kaiser sir , INDIAN government abolished Cantonment as INDIAN MILITARY has been insisting that running civilian infrastructure is not their job. So it was INDIAN MILITARY that asked government to abolish Cantonment

Bengali nailed it. No nonsense.

Unless Pakistani control their Army 🪖, no development of Pakistan is possible.

Salute to Dr Qaiser Bengali .. A whole history in a few words speaking with painful voice... A mirror ...

Attendance to listen to these words of eminent sense : 35 ? 20 ? 15 ? In India, during the 1991 forex crisis, I remember, an entire blockbuster- match- sized housefull crowd turned up at Ferozshah Kotla (cricket) stadium in Delhi to listen to a similar series of short talks by economists (and actively react with suggestions and feedback, not just with questions). You could just feel that the janata had an educated interest and eagerness in pulling India out of the hole (that in our case one we had dug with our idiot- Socialist policies). That they keenly felt the humilation of having to mortgage our gold reserves abroad, even if we didn't quite go begging like Pakistan now. Read even the comments here - how many are from Pakistanis ? And also - how many are from Indians ? Indicative of many things I guess.

Dr Bengali nailed it,in a very short speech he sketched the on going situation confronting Pakistan today

Happy to see this many books in one room in Pakistan, hope all are not only one book printed on different dates😅

5300 views only out of 25 crore people plus 100 in hall. Ghamidi speaks or maulana speaks u have millions of views. Really pakistani people looking for allah to sort out all worries.

As always Dr. Kaiser Bengali is to the point in a concise and precise manner. It's a pleasure to hear him speak!!!

Only person who spoke eloquently and meaningful was Mr Kaiser Bengali. Absolutely on point and sharp rebuke to pak army.

Shows how back in time Pakistan education syllabus and pattern is . One of panel member never heard that we can do PhD in 2 different disciplines . 😂😂RIP

No matter how much these intellectuals scream, as long as they don't take out religion from every facet of life and make it a personal matter nothing will ever change.

Kaisar Bengali sb is worth listening.

I have worked for Investment Management firm and was part of the $700 billion portfolio ( Manhattan NYC) and my conclusion after viewing this program that Pakistan will suffer sever pain after few years. Without cutting Military budget by 50% and investing in Human Capital we will not come out of the problems. Establishment should completely control with ownership not like when economy screwed up blame it democracy and use politicians as a puppet. Educated and skillful people should leave and don’t waste your time and skills.

Excellent discussions. Mr. Bengali is an intellectual, Mr. Zaidi a pragmatist & Mr. Aqsad and idealist. Pakistan requires an urgent but balanced & ideal mix of the the three medications suggested by the 3 gentlemen if it wishes to survive as an honourable nation.

Contonement Colonisation !! Nicely put by Dr Bengali.

Very informative. Thanks for uploading

It sad that Pakistan youth & elite don't listen to experts.

How would you stop your top political and military leaders from stealing public money? That's the primary question.

Azidi saheb, I can present a 4th scenario. Pakistan will disintegrate. Na rahega Baans na Bajegi Baansuri. Pakistan has to and will split into 4 parts this time. Baluchistan, Sindhudesh, Pashtunwali (Afghanistan) and Paxstan. As an Indian I thoroughly enjoyed this discussion.

I always reminisce about Late Dr Mahbub-ul-Haq, who spoke so eloquently on economic issues during his days at the planning commissions and later as the Finance Minister. We must remember that HDI - Human Development Index was pioneered by Late Dr Mahbub-ul-Haq Sahib. Even Dr Amartya Sen (Nobel prize winner) acknowledged the work done by Late Dr Haq! We in Pakistan need to teach and respect economics as a noble profession. Unfortunately, many people do BA/MA in Economics and end up as school teachers. These graduates never care to write and publish manuscripts such as peer-reviewed research papers, monographs, pamphlets, seminars or colloquium technical papers, or books. So to improve economic policy and decision-making for problem-solving we need to inculcate evidence-based thematic, & scientific (positivist), and ethnographic research methods within the academic discipline and domain of economics and development studies. Thank you!

The setting for this event is awesome!!

Very informative conference regarding current situation and intellectuals are right in suggestions especially on Human develpment

Excellent and very informative discussion...

Scarce resources are / were wasted on defense on the perceived threat from India for the last 76 years. Only Generals enriched themselves on that pretext

Let us have such lectures. Weldone. hurrah for organizers.

Excellent...

Very thoughtful interaction.

My guess is that the moderator is the wife of a general. These retired generals living off the state's largesse continue to inflict damage on the country well beyond their stint in the government. e.g. Asad Durrani. For Durrani the country's population can go to hell as long as he continue to cling to his fantasies of regional and global domination and being a participant in the Great Game. This is the core constituency that fuels the "ghairat brigade." As long as this section continues to have any traction whatsoever in the policy circles, Pak is doomed.

It is.great to hear some sensible people

Excellent

Very informative and realistic discussion. Happy to see openness and freedom of speech with critical analysis on key stakeholders.

Dr Mosama has got together an excellant team to discuss what ails Pak economy today and remedial measures. after listening to them, it is clear there is no lack of talent in Pakistan , knowledge and ability to analyse its current economic and political mess.

I admire the CA for his paper work, That's the way any serious meetings has to be conducted.

I have seen many interviews of Dr. Kaiser Bengali. He is more practical and knows the root cause of problem.

Great speeches.

The first speaker, (black coat) wala is talking BS bringing in Cricket and Anglo- Saxon Institutions.

"Cantonment colonization". I learnt a new word today. India learnt it's lesson of "foreign Central Bank governors" within two terms; not 15 years

Pathetic economic situation of Pakistan saazish of RAA and West.😅😂.You govern Pakistan and IMF bears the repercussion..

Its good at least there is open discussion about the prevailing problems

This is the most logical, realistic,and sensible research of Pakistan I seen today..love youPIIA from India ❤

Does Pakistan have an economy? I am asking a serious question. It is an agricultural country that imports food to feed its people and valuable agricultural land is being taken away to create HDA homes and such. It’s population is exploding, 1/2 of its school going children don’t go to school and those who finish school or graduate from college don’t have real life skills to contribute to the world. It exports $35B/year and imports 70$B/year. There is no sense of real education in the country and hence can never really have a functioning economy. Help me clear any of my misunderstandings I may have.

Excellent discussion

An eye-opening discussion you guys had today, Mashallah. I like it very much, this is the first time I come to know that we have people like you who know very well what is the problem and how to solve it and who makes this problem and you know the culprits. Dr. Kaiser Bengali is an outspoken gentleman indeed.

Good Subject.

Cantonment colonialism……well said Bengali sb 👍

Excellent talk

Doctor Qaisr was extremely to the point and explained the clear situation of Pakistan well.

Very informative thought by the gusts, but who is listening in the government. One has to be educated more than FA & BA from Punjab university to understand.

*I wish and pray for the poor and needy.* _Love from Erbil Kurdistan_

Excellent conversation by Shabbar Zaidi sb. Hard facts narrated

i like a Syed shabbir zaidi rough and tough straightforward point of views and cures also and other intellectuals are also excellent in their views having strong and evident remedies.. thanke PIIA for this amazing intellects event..

Superb talk

It was very nice debate and inovative too

This was a detailed and well thought out discussion on all out problems of dear motherland- Pakistan . Keep organising such like discussions so that some good viable solutions may come out of problems of Pakistan. These are cream of great think tanks please.

Mind d boggling music 🎶

Why they havent shared complete session why omitting clips ?

Brilient presentation of ecnomic malidies of country .

Good and revealing program 😊

Very honest and educated debate!

In economic and societal discussions, "Anglo-Saxon" can refer to certain economic and political systems associated with countries like the United Kingdom and the United States. It's used to characterize capitalist and market-oriented economies with individual property rights and limited government intervention.

Great ininitiative by Dr Masooma Hassan made it possible for us to listen from zaidi sb. Aqadas sb and Qaisar Bangali sb. They all delivered from the truths of hear. May Allah Bless them and protect them. This is the way for searching solutions.

Sad to see people being misled by enemies of Pakistan. What PakIstan needs now more than ever is the final push in learning, teaching, following, implementing and spreading Islam, inside and outside of Pakistan.

Dr Bengali is absolutely spot on, on his assessment. Brutally accurate. No fairy tales.

Where this meeting take place? How to attend it? Certain requirements?

👍👍👍100%agrewd. Experiment in 1947 by JINNAH fail in PAKISTAN. But we thnx to JINNAH 24 Cr bheekhari left India.

In Pakistan flag people mistake Kaskol for crescent 🙏 "Pakistan ka matalab kya - Bhukhe Nange Bikhari" 🙏

Mr. Shabbar and other allied gentlemen have enlightened the factualities of our economic crises, thus we would to stand for or against the all evil forces whether it belong to any institution.

This conversation is 70 years too late. At this point the country is beyond repair. Pakistan has all the ingridients for a revolution, angst in youth, lack of opportunity, control by armed forces and poverty.

Well Nourished Discussion Overall but Mian Atif in TPL was apt... Moreover, Classic Response by Mr. Bangali at 1:36:00

I strongly believe, once the focus will be on citizens of Pakistan, new strategies will be carved out. There are experts available in country but no will at the top.

the show is cut out, i dont know why if they wanted to cut it out then there was no need to upload it .

Sir Shabbar gave the best analysis. Realistic, visionary and based on factual arguments. The scenarios he gave in his presentation were quite realistic and scenario 3 being the most significant if implemented effectively can bring a radical shift in the economic structure of Pakistan. However, the overall situation may take years to change.

Pakistan Army is trying to Act like CCP, but their properties, bank accounts assets are in USA, Kanedda, Dubai 😂

I want to be a part of ds discussion..how can i do it as i have da solution to economic problm.

Do you guys test your audio system before the discussion. It’s so difficult to hear some of the experts, especially Mr. Bengali and the people asking questions.

Arre Paxstan exports a lot.... of pink salt. I heard even Footballs and Aam (Mango). Kachcha Baniyans are their specialty aur ab toh suna hai imported cotton se bante hain... Wow. Also some animal skin products the angrez call leather. Big exporter country Paxstan.

Thank you very much for your very informative and very interesting program on Economic Problems of Pakistan We all have to think very seriously How to live in Minimisation We are extra spenders We individually and collectively live beyond our means We are not willing to change ourselves Personally I have never made a Budget Even if I make it I do not work on it Also whenever I go to the market to buy 2 items I will buy 5 to 6 item's Always in debt It's the same way collectively

Let us have to take necessary measures to balance expenditures in accordance with our earnings and adopt to austerity formula keeping in view the bad circumstances of the country which otherwise may suffer not only to single man but to whole, if the irregularities are not abandoned.

Where is this

Thanks to Dr Bengali for challenging this Aqdas guy. He's simply playing to the gallery and blowing hot air. Does he really thinking Pakistan can go alone? First learn to live within your own means and produce something that the world values. Until then this is just empty talk (badke maarna). Just another variant of the "ghairat" argument.

Sir shaber have exporting items suitable for India???

I dont get it. All these eminent guys dont talk about the brain wash thru religious schools. Thats a simple solution

@pakistan-institute, I wanted to ask if you would allow me to share just Shabbar Zaidi"s speech? Obviously I have to edit it, not distorting it though.

DOLLAR CONTAINERS ILLAY, PAKISTAN ILLAY. DOLLAR KHATAM, PAKISTAN KHATAM. KHATAM SARZAMIN SHADBAD.

I had seen parts of this program, today I saw the full length. Very plain truth. Will we accept the reality and change!

Bharat also had similar situations in 1991. But we revised our economic policies - Liberalisation came into the economy I am thankful to Dr. Man Mohan Singh for that as a finance Minister (Not as a Prime minister) We didnt had the blockage by any kind of religious laws, so we succeeded now.

Hairat ki baat hai ki Pakistan mein is tarah ke program sunne vale log hai..she cut the, "Elephant in the room" part due the fear that the elephant may get angry..but Dr. Bangali made it eminently clear who the elephant is..

The question raised by the audiences are required sympathetic considerstion with all fairness and sincerity.

Amazing stuff! Over 1 hour 43 minutes, but not a single word on digitalization, clean energy, sustainable business practices, lean/smart manufacturing or Technology! Truly scary scenario.

Honest and frank statements by the panellist about Pakistan's reality and problems.

Will military, judges, bureaucrats and Parliamentarian let go their privileges and start paying their taxes as a first steps?

VEDAS AND THEIR TIME PERIOD The basis of Sanatan Dharma are Vedas. There are four Vedas: Rigu, Sam, Yayur and Atharva. Vedas are collection of Mantras from different Rishis. Our Rishis were Mantra Drashta. They actually used to see the Mantras. Then memorize it, because there was no script, and later pass on to others.It is said Mohammad Sahab also saw Koran Ayats coming down from heaven. In Christianity also Ten commandments came down from heaven. Actually to start with there were only three Vedas: Rigu, Sam and Yayur and all sorts of Mantras were mingled in all the three. Then a Rishi Parishad under the presidentship of Vishwamitra requested Gautam Rishi to edit the Vedas and make them more systematic. Here I would like to mention that any Rishi named was not a particular person, he was one of the clan. E.g. there was a Vishwamitra in Satya Yuga making all sorts of troubles for king Harishchandra and there was a Vishwamitra in Treta Yuga, a few lakh years later, as Guru of Ram and Lakshman. Gautam Rishi made Vedas four. In Rigu he put prayers of different gods. Actually they are Vaidik gods like Indra, Agni, Vayu etc whom we generally do not worship now. There is history also, but it is just a mention of an incidence or a name without giving any details. In Sam Ved there are songs and music In Yayur there are medicines and diseases. Our Ayurvedic pathy has come out of it. In Atharva all sorts of rituals, Super Natural things and even different Superstitions are given. There are three types of commentaries on Vedas. Upanishads, they discuss the philosophies in Vedas. Smritis, they give the rules of society from Vedas e.g. Manusmriti. Puranas, which elaborate the history given in Vedas. Now let's come to our main topic, TIME PERIOD OF VEDAS. Western historians and also their Indian disciples do admit that Rigu Veda is the oldest book in the world but they say that it is 5000 years old, which is not correct. Ved Mantras were accumulated not over a decade or a century, those were accumulated over thousands of years. Some of the Mantras are as old as a lakh years or more. Let us check the evidences. First let us consider the language of Vedas. Though the language of Vedas is called Vadic Sanskrit but it has nothing to do with the present Sanskrit. Nobody knows the language of Vedas. A few hundred years back the Prime Minister of Karnataka Kingdom Sri Sayandacharya taking the help of different religious books translated Vedas in Sanskrit. Now everybody writes about Vedas based on his translation. Actually it is not possible to translate original Vedas. In original Vedas it's said that a Swara had nine pronounciation. E.g. in Hindi the Swara E has two pronounciation as in दीन and दिन, both have different meanings, first one is poor and second is day. So when a Swara had nine pronounciation all having different meanings. With time when the food and environment was not so pure people were not able to pronounce all the nine different pronounciations. So they reduce it to three. But these days one can't pronounce even three. So now Vedpathies show the three positions of Swaras by their hand 'Up', 'Middle' and 'Low'. About fifty years back there were five or six such Vedpathies in Karnataka and Maharashtra. I don't know if any such Vedpathies still exit or not. At the time of Kalidas the Sanskrit was at its zenith. So from beginning Sanskrit itself must have covered many thousand years. And then Vadic Sanskrit? Who knows. As everybody knows there was no script at that time. So Vedas passed from one generation to other just by pronounciation. The pronounciation was so important that if one didn't pronounce it correctly the meaning will be quite different and everything will be spoiled. Many places in Vedas the incidence is mentioned that the father of Britrasur performed a Yagna to get a son who will kill Indra. But as he was an Asur so he could not pronounce the Mantras correctly. The Mantras he pronounced meant that he should get a son who will be killed by Indra and Indra killed Britrasur. So the language of Vedas itself shows that Vedas are many thousand years old. Now let's take Geographical evidences. In Vedas always River Saraswati is mentioned. Hardly any other river is mentioned. So Saraswati was the most important river of that time. We know that it was vanished a few thousand years back. Such a great river at that time can't vanish in a decade or even a century. It must have taken a few thousand years to vanish.In Vedas a sea is mentioned which was parallel to Dead sea but it was vanished some 50 thousand years back. So some of the Mantras are 50 thousand years or more old. Vedic deities are different from today's. Indra, Agni, Vayu etc are Vedic deities. We know them but don't worship anymore. In Vedas it often comes that Indra cut the wings of Hills and Mountains. Everybody will laugh, what nonsense do the Mountains had wings? But wait let's imagine the situations one lakh years back when Himalaya was coming out of earth. What a chaos it might had been when such a great mountain range was coming out. In the day they might have seen a hill or mountain, next morning it had gone without a trace. So they thought it flew away. They worshiped Indra to save them from the chaos. Ultimately Himalaya was out. The situation became stable, no more flying of hills and mountains. So they took that Indra had responded to their prayers and cut the wings of Hills and Mountains. Then they saw a mountain in the sea. They thought that when Indra was cutting the wings of mountains this one took refuge here, they called it Mainak. So some of the Mantras are as old as a lakh years. So the Western historians are wrong to say that Rigu Veda is only five thousand years old.

Spellbinding speech by Shabbar Zaidi. With facts, figures and context.

Very good, sensible and transparent show about the state of economy. Glad Pakistan still has some people who understand the real issues.The question is, will the establishment and government of Pakistan implement the recommendations because of their huge ego and false prestige. Not sure what the host was expecting when she said she did not expect the discussion to go this way. Wish she could have given her thoughts.

Who is the moderator..

Amadan, guftan, barkhastan. All we do is talk. Talk is cheap; what is needed is action. If successive governments have failed to perform in 75 years, people should not take it lying down but act to protect their interests. Leaving it to inept and corrupt politicians is never enough. Nations are made by the people, not the politicians. We are all guilty ---- some more than others.

Shabar zaidi is very true.

DR Bengali is far superior in his critical analysis. next is Zaidi & then come others. Good discussions & informative. Thanks. PK is doomed already. No way out AT ALL!