Dopey was a runt too. Couldn't walk till almost 2 months old.

I agree. That could explain why Martha seemed overly protective. She knew something was wrong and was doing the best she could to keep him safe.

Thank you for your kind comment💔

@@lourdeshernandez3710 thank you. Just my thoughts, from my heart. We are one big happy family here, the Monkey Hill Family, we voice our thoughts and opinions with respect for everyone. We don't always agree with each other BUT we respect each other. Anyone coming on here blasting us and/or especially AM will hear from me. They can troll another channel. Love all of you and I love AM.

I expect so, i think thats why she looks like she's being rough with him, to try and toughen him up so he could survive

Yes he is gorgeous

Gypsy has problems we don't see, or we see and choose not to look at. She has Postpartum issues and lack of food where she is at the bottom of the totem pole. Same as the poor folk, sometimes we don't know why some people hurt or be malicious to their children. People are comparing monkeys to humans and we in fact are a whole different species

@@BrittanyBuckland-yr8pc Martha is living off of instinct alone that’s what animals do and she knew she had a sickly baby and that’s why she’s being over protective I don’t see her being a bad mom whatsoever I just am not sure where people are seeing that.

OMG, FFS, stop with the "bad" mother crap already. You are no better than the Cambodian VO'S that spread their vileness in their videos.

Oh nooooooo. Spoiler alert !! I think that just gave away part 2 for me.. Lol shux

@PamPreston78 ~ A runt just means much smaller than average size (and is usually much weaker, as well). It doesn't have to be in a litter setting. I believe the typical baby Rhesus Macaque weighs 21-24 ounces at birth. Say Bobbin only weighed 17 ounces at birth, that would make him a runt even though he was the only baby born to Martha.

@@TinyHyena1967 thank you for explaining it.

@@PamPreston78 ~ No problem. 😀

That was the winter of 2015/2016. Dopey and Button were both born in the summer of 2016 and Bobbin came along in 2017.

Yep the one at 24:57 to 25:08 is a good example. Another one at 27:25. Just very weak all the way around. His face does also kinda look like Calvin’s if you’re aware of those monkey channels. Right out of the oven he just has that….non inquisitive face.

Hi Deb❤

@@PamPreston78how are you Pam?

@@debvit2353we had some severe thunderstorms come through, dropping a bunch of damaging hail. Too soon to tell if we have any. Several neighbors did, but no one was injured.

@@PamPreston78oh no! We had a bad thunderstorm here too tonight. No hail though. These storms have been wild! Please take care and remain safe ❤️

Good morning 🌞

I think Martha was encouraging to walk and move. But there was something wrong with his back legs and/or hips. The baby died later on.

IMO she sensed something was off about him and decided he wasn’t worth the energy to raise. Week 2 you can definitely tell he’s not all there. Week 3 he’s riding on back and sides. Martha does seem to hold him awkwardly quite often in the first few weeks. She does make several attempts at walking away from him to get him to practice walking. Strangely we don’t see him throwing any severe tantrums which is really unusual. He just kind of…existed.

@ericklein5097 after finishing the video she did seem to allow him more milk bar visits. I agree something is off with him. I am guessing winter will be his end though. He has not gotten a winter coat at all by September

This is a side road. There are other troops close to a major highway

I think you mean complication

@@yvonneconte3040 yes I mean problems It’s the dictionary 😟

They do for a few days and then abandon them.

Martha was very protective of Bobbin. He developed slowly and moved even more slowly. He was just coming into his own and Martha was allowing him independent playtime when he suddenly disappeared. He was so undersized that he may have fallen prey to a predator, such as a large hawk.

@@hollisblinn7910 😢😢he seemed to be figuring it out.

Hmmm I did not get one ad. I do not think AM can control the ads on his videos!

Hmmmmmmm 🤔 When a baby his age comes up missing, well hello....guess he went to Grandma's and decided to stay. AND AM does NOT put the ads in they are automatic.

His channel is not monetized. The ads are strictly you tube thing. I only got 2 ads.

@@aushaheart8258 yes he does. He has the option of selecting the number of adds that can appear in his videos. Remember this video runs for 57 mins. I have seen more adds in some of the Cambodian videos that AM has in his.

Troll on to another channel if all you can do is complain

Sadly no

@@ericvoltron that is sad…. Thankyou for the answer.

Where's the proof and scientific research? Please cite us the research that states all monkey mothers, and especially rhesus mothers, are bad mothers? I want to dee scientific research from you since you make that blanket, and quite frankly, ignorant statement. Yes, there are a few that seem to have some quirks and have issues. Yet, we are unsure why they have issues. For the most, though, with the 3 main followers of these troops, they have observed loving, caring, gentle mothers who have reared most of their babies to adulthood. Most of these moms have reared daughters, which, in turn, are good loving moms, too. Some of these moms are into 3 generations of well- reared babies. The few that we would call questionable (I refuse to refer them as bad) may have some physiological or biological issues, but none are bad. Also, remember, these are wild animals and know nothing of the human morals, values, or polite society rules we try to project on them. Their society is way beyond our understanding. Let's discuss some of these so-called bad moms: 1. Nora - some hate her. Others have called for her death or sterilization. Yet to do that could harm her troop as she is matriarch it is speculated that she suffers some physical ailment when her milk comes in, so it is painful for her. Maybe her nipples are so sensitive, and suckling puts her in excruciating pain. Maybe she suffers PPD. Yet, Nora has successfully raised babies to adulthood and has a successor. Is it disheartening, painful, and heartbreaking to see. Definitely, through our human lens. Yet, as a human that suffers mental health issues, there are times I know I should do something to control it, snap out of my depression, but am powerless to do so without chemical help. Monkeys don't have that luxury. They must deal with it constantly.. 2. Floffi and Fozzie - it was said that these sisters were awful as they let Bo kidnap and ultimately starve their babies. Bo is bigger, a bully, and also a matriarch's daughter. These 2 were new moms, unsure of themselves. Now, Floffi has a beautiful daughter she protected and is thriving. Hopefully, Fozzi learns and can protect her next infant. 3. Gypsy - Gypsy can seem harsh and gets babysitters when her babies are young. Gypsy is one of the lowest ranking imoms n the troop. She eats last and the scraps. She probably has to forage most of the day. IMO, what we may think is allowing babysitting is actually kidnapping. Yet, if any of her kids are in trouble, no matter the age, she is a ferocious defender of them. She plucks them, yes, but I've observed that she does this with adults too. That's her way. She doesn't allow a lo5 of time nursing, but her offspring are wonderful foragers and quit self-sufficient. Gypsy has raised many successful, surviving offspring and now is a grandmother. 4 Tina - she is the saddest one of all. People were so very upset that she raided her kids' pouches. It was upsetting to us. Yet Tina, like Gypsy is lowest in the hierarchy. She was still nursing when she did this. She needs food to produce milk. It is only just recently speculated that she has trouble producing milk, and what she does is very inferior and not good enough to help the baby thrive. Yet, she carried her babies and allowed them access to the milk bar longer than most moms do. She has succssfully raised offspring, too. These are not bad mothers. They are doing what their instincts, knowledge, experience, and training have taught them. In our eyes, it may seem harsh, bad, and yes, cruel. But to them, it's survival. It's what they learned and perhaps feel. They can't tell usand we can only observe and speculate in wonder; not criticism. They are not human. They are their own lovely, fascinating creatures. If we wish to observe them, we should do so with wonder, awe, thankfulness, and definitely without criticism and condemnation. I apologize for the rant, but I get angry at the anthromorphation and projection of human qualities on these beautiful wild creatures.

It's coming.

Bobbin was born in 2017 and Martha was very protective and loving toward him. Go back and watch the original videos that featured him and you'll see. As for riding him side-saddle, Martha did that with all her babies .

She's missing a nipple and so he's probably not going to be able to get the amount of nutrients he needs to develop properly. Maybe she lost it in a fight or one of her other babes bite it off. Who knows? 🤷🏼‍♀️What I do know is that it is missing a nipple is missing

I think she was just wanting him to walk more and get stronger.

I honestly though this comment was being sarcastic!! She was AMAZING to him in this video. Sure she was overly protective but it turned out just fine. I still kinda think you gave to be joking?? If not sorry but bad mom she was not.

He seems to have plenty of access to the milk bar to me from this video. Martha stands back and encourages him to walk before scooping him up. At least that's what I'm seeing the first couple of weeks or so. He does look a bit disabled in those back legs though.