When you're that sneaky, you can dress like Liberace and still stay unseen. Mathias Shaw's spy teacher never saw him in stealth class.

@@Kylora2112 if was never seen in stealth class did he get straight A's or did he fail because his teachers thought he never showed up.

@@iceheart1289 Yes.

it requires a LOT of skill to sneak around when you dress like that, so maybe it's a form of bragging about his habilities?

gurr

KeennkojoTV they are buddies noting more

Two bros chilling in a hot tub, five feet apart cos they're not gay 👀

No they were room mates.

They were cousins!!!! /s

SI:7 will come for them

Alliance? Being badas?? LOL! Sorry! The way Blzizard wants to write the alliance, we should always be grateful that they did not make him into Jonhy English during BfA.

He’s basically what I had hoped Garona would be for the horde.

@@celiovicenteribeirofilho9740 what about varian, he was as badass as they came

@@yaboym9631 Yep, yep! Varian! But Varian was the last good thing the alliance lost, before the current lore team decided that to tell a story of the horde, the alliance needed to be a patetica version, of itself, and play dumb for the horde to feel good. Alliance has half gods in their group? Let's make their leaders be idiots who forget the most basic of what we know about the Horde and blight, we will make them lose one of their capitals and never get back the act, by letting Syl use a tatica of devastated land to thwart this only chance to hit the horde hard, while not letting them use the advantages it has ( I'm looking at you Vindica , wherever you have beaten) and do everything ally conquered in BfA be just a phyrric vitory, while the horde not only destroyed Darnassus as deprered Darkshore and completed deforestation with Blight. And we haven't even seen Gilneas recovered in game. Just in a crappy book, that we would never allow us to see any reflection of something where it really matters, in game, as the horde can always see Gilneas ruined, Theramore nuked to hell and now, with Darnassus in the largest pile of coal in Azeroth and the horde coming out unpunished with another free pass and the alliance with its pride and union in tatters as we could see in our cinematic end-of-war motivator at the embassy that was depressing , which was sad, to the satisfaction of Blizzard and Horde. And let's not even talk about seeing Jaina and Geblin converted into loot pinatã for the horde, when we didn't even have the same in the alliance, having to be humiliated in seeing the fight for the horde version, purple blood elves who never gave a rotten apple by the alliance as placebo to High elves, obese kultirans who have not earned the respect of virtually anyone and junkgnomes who have an imperceptive minority that of them not garnering any prestige and interest to ally , as the opposite race of the vulperas superpopulars, relegating the alliance feel a lack of disgusting prestige, which seems more to have been made to demoralize the alliance in any assessment.

Passionately "backstabbing" Fairwind, or what?

HIDE THE RUM!

Are you thirsty? I'm thirsty!

too true;)

Hé be of the gay i think? I hope Blizzard drops a bomshell like it. Ps. Hang the dark lady for Vol jin!

@@973walid I say you should read Shadows Rising!

This got me xD

A good one

ABSOLUTELY

only in heteronormative terms :p

Vereesa getting development has historically been a painful enterprise for her. Maybe she'll get a bit more of the Jaina BFA treatment?

Hopefully they dont have her just standing in one place like she was pretty much the whole of BfA

I also want the void elves as a whole to get more development, out of all allied races they have so little lore.

Honestly, Alleria seems like she's going going to go down a Sylvanas route. Mind you, I don't think this is a bad thing; if done correctly, this could be used to have the Windrunner sisters foil off one another. No doubt Sylvanas is going to die or at least be defeated in Shadowlands, but I think Alleria could help build both characters, drawing similarities between herself and Sylvanas, whilst expressing the differences between the sisters through Vereesa. Mind you, this could be done correctly if Blizzard writes the story competently, like how Kathreen's character was built upon by Jaina and Lady Ashvane, whilst also building Jaina's character in the process. But you should also remember, these guys are the guys who didn't have us kill Grommash at any point in WoD and also killed N'zoth in a patch, so it's kinda a coin flip

Hope she gets a bit more shit for painting Sylvanas as a horrible monster just for being undead and I hope Vereesa gets called out for at least pushing her into this direction as she was the one who wanted to kill Garrosh and later turned her back on her.

we're all thirsty for a bit of Shaw

@@Goldskull_96 and Flynn ;)

Shaw is hot, and greyman is daddy. Im gonna stop talking... Just some horny night elf here

I agree. I never much cared about Matthias Shaw but I really enjoyed his whole story

@John Nabil Valeera has always been more of a alliance character, her loyalties are her own and shes loyal to house Wrynn so as long a Wrynn sits on the throne she will be more of an alliance char

The only ally I played was pre-bc Vanilla to 60 as well as the cata quests in the old world... right now I’m rushing through all of the quests throughout the expansions for fear that they’ll soon be gone, and Shaw is one of the people I’m most looking forward to seeing! Dude is so cool.

@John Nabil Valeera has pretty much always been Alliance...

hahaha i know u feel men im horde player too and i like him too

@@ValensBellator The quests won't be gone right?

Except for the Tiragarde story, did Azerite actually play any real role story wise?

@@DarkApostleNoek and when we kamehameha'd N'zoth, that's about it.

@@DarkApostleNoekLady Ashvane was trying to produce weapons made from Azerite. So, yes. Azerite was prominent in Tiragarde.

I mean we did use the power of the azerite through our necklaces in order to destroy nzoth

@@paxtonjolly7975 I mean that we never saw Azerite come up in corrupted zones. Never saw old Gods trying to seize this obviously powerful stuff.

Cloak of shadows and vanish? :p

Vanish, zap and run

Yeah, people underestimate Dreadlords or the demons themselves. Just because we go around killing them willy-nilly by the time of Legion doesn't mean it's the same for everyone else. Dreadlords used to exclusively be powerful elites and they're meant to be the most masterful infiltrators in a cosmic conquering force.

Wait..What? Dreadlords are basically the Daddies of all Rogues for fk sake..their entire Race is known for shadow magic..deception and being Cunning! What...HOW can you put the blame on 1 guy for this??

Agreed

They have been together for too long. Ask someone who has been married for 1 year. It could be worse.

@@jackmion They only married after WC3

He spends most of the time sleeping and rarely there for her when she needs him. Not to mention he’s a clingy whiny loser.

every love story is better than theirs. they suck.

Want some popcorn?

Rule of cool my friend

noooo :( Vanessa and Shaw.

The SS FairShaw will set sail!!

@@Dwayneff She is more like a daughter to him.

Nobbel, I need to know who’s top and who’s bottom. Can you delve deeper into the lore for this?

@@eaglebach3154 Most fanfic put Flynn as top as Matthias as bottom. Official lore will never go that deep.

I'm an old heterosexual woman who has played since BC. Apparently you skipped the Legion xpac because Flynn is straight. I am skeptical of Roux as an author for WOW canon. I think she's barking up the wrong tree. But then again, I personally dislike pink hair, piercings, and tattoos. I never have done fads.

@@valkyriesardo278 oh my god one of the people that worked for blizzard at that time and was involved in the creation of the quests with flynn literally said hes bi. his crush on taelia was never meant to go anywhere

@@valkyriesardo278 (1) Flynn didnt exist in Legion. (2) Blizzard told Roux to set him up with Shaw as part of the outline of evemts they wanted to happen in this book.

when you're right, you're right!

🙌

The horde has a lot of potential with character development in rogue characters, Garona, Lillian Voss, Valeera; to name a few. The problem? They have almost nobody to play off of and make their characters interesting. Characters are made interesting by how they interact with their environment/other characters. Shaw is interesting because he plays off characters, such as Graymane and, most notably, Flynn. Are there any characters who Garona interacts with? Nope. What about Valeera, well yes, but that character is Shaw and she's mostly there to drive plot, like in the case of her attending the meeting with Wrathion, Anduin, and Magni at the start of 8.3 (the only purpose of her presence was so the horde could have an introductory quest to the cloak, visions, and new raid). Voss has potential to be driven by Stone, who mirrors her character quite a bit, in a sort of mentor and teacher sort of way, but in my opinion: the best character to further Lilian Voss's character was Thomas Zelling, who was infinitely more interesting than Stone and had the potential to become a badass main character, but was killed off to make Sylvanas seem ruthless. Truthfully, as pissed as everyone got at N'zoth's fast death and wasted potential, I was more pissed off by how a great character like Zelling was killed to make Sylvanas, the character who burned a city full of civilians alive because one elf told her that she couldn't kill hope, seem ruthless.

@@gabrieleslinger6169 Valeera serve house Wrynn

I want some character development in some not evil warlock characters

@@gabrieleslinger6169 Valeera has nothing to do with the Horde, her only loyalty is to house Wrynn. Only reason why she was in Zandalar was because she was sent there by Anduin to tell the Horde hero (the player character) what had happened in Stormwind with Wrathion and introduce them to 8.3 content.

Aethewulf she serve not becz allinace lol , she serve to make peace 2 faction , valeera bloodelvs Belong horde faction not alliance

She's disappointed everytime.

That's rough, buddy

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It has been confirmed by its creator ^^ ! On twitter if I remember. First he was in love with the girl from Boralus (don't remember her name, with her gryphon !) and then he fell in love with Shawn :p !

@@sylphephilippe449 Taelia Fordragon isn't a hard name to remember. o.o

@@lytherael2309 tAEliA ! Sorry but it's too complicated in a game with so much similar names xd !

@@lytherael2309 so first with the Lich king daughter?(is his daughter right?) Damn thats quite the chain of love

@@darkwhispersstories47 Yep.

Every expansion I do that on both factions.

I got some playlists in chrono order yea! 1: kzfaq.info/sun/PLV3Yvqnl3FYcsI4px2GaIxUQ8io4kuZ2s 2: kzfaq.info/sun/PLV3Yvqnl3FYfJu8KqFv-MAj88mPue6ZH4 3: kzfaq.info/sun/PLV3Yvqnl3FYeF53PWfZgFAKYtmRSjS5hH 4: kzfaq.info/sun/PLV3Yvqnl3FYdrisuybIZzneHMAtGMRFuf

My quess is that the spies didnt had the chance to report

It’s the first. Trust me, I combed the entire wow lore 3 times over just to check that. And tbh, I’M SO HAPPY ❤️(even if it’s probably gonna be kept in the books ‘cuz blizz wants money from countries where gay is illegal. So yey. Still a cool romance, tho)

"same sex couple" gay is an orientation. But I agree it was about time, but iam glad it was these two, they are a great match in my opinion.

It's the first canonically acknowledged. There's a few quests with suggestive dialogue (a tauren and night elf druid pair in firelands is the only one I can think of rn).

@@QenaitheCustodianGuard I *completely* forgot Flynn's crush on Taelia

i know this comment is from a few years ago but i just want to say i appreciate it especially after seeing the not-so-nice responses to the video :)

King Rastakhan of the Zandalari Trolls

Either Rastakhan, or the Original King Liane Wrynn Varian's father.

It was all about a matter of time^^

Now if we can just get Wrathion and Anduin... I will go down with this ship. This, or Anduin and Taelia.

my guess fake shaw fed them false info.

@@DrApplezman But they show Detherac ambushing Shaw and the others as they were about to withdraw, then taking on the disguise. Shaw was going to warn the fleet, "It's a trap, don't attack" but he was taken. But the fleet was already on the way, so it was like the Horde and Alliance wanted to attack something, didn't know what and they would figure it out when they got there. They didn't even need a dreadlord deceiving them, they did themselves in.

They knew it was the Burning Legion coming and it makes sense they'd wanna hit them before they got any sort of foothold, cause once they do there was a chance it'd be impossible to push them back and it's over. It's a big risk, but the other risk of not acting is letting the Burning Legion win. Ofcourse we do manage to recover and we as the hero does manage to turn everything, but it's more meant as a miracle and a great struggle than anything that a reassured thing after losing Broken Shore. We know as players we will win against the threat, but I'm pretty sure it's meant to appear more hopeless and that the Legion has already won, we're just slowing them down from conquering, yet we prove the opposite which is the point of our story. Eitherway it was a desperate attempt to halt the invasion at its core and it failed. It's the Burning Legion afterall, it's unlike any other threat that anyone has faced and it remains the biggest and greatest threat we've faced so far in terms of the critical emergency and need to act upon it before any sound strategy can be made, or if that's even possible as to us at the time the Burning Legion is infinite.

Crap. We had that with BfA. It sucked. Are you being sarcastic?

@@noctusowl the closest thing they've had to that was MoP and it was fightigng over a continent

normally binge watch 17 hours at a time

Disgusting.

@@heathmcrigsby homophobic in 2020? Run, they'll come for you

@@Scourgelorde I'm muslim, it's against my religion.

@@heathmcrigsby you can be religious and not homophobic. To call it disgusting and using religion as an excuse is pretty low iq

@@heathmcrigsby I am not a muslim. But i am pretty sure, that your religion is saying, to not do it on your own. Not to rate or suppress them. There is no point of the Quran that strictly says, that it is a real sin. It's says in some ways, that its disqusting. But thats not a reason to take the opinion just, because a old book tells me to. Why i am answering if i am sure i wont change anything? Well its 2020 and we all have our "flaws" (don't see beeing gay as a flaw, but some do) and we should accept everyone on this planet. I mean due to wrong pictures of people we had people like Hitler or other evil personalities in the past. Think about you action. You don't have to be gay, but to tolerate people should be a thing that everyone can do. PS: I am a christian and thats not a reason for me to wait for sex until marriage or be disgusted by people that aren't waiting either.