How about going in 1970 and still in prison. ?

That should be like a time travel.

They will be completely lost ; so much has changed. If they cannot adapt they might end up wishing they had stayed in jail.

Like Brooks Hatlin in Shawshank Redemption!

@@hetaera3418 yea.

Who the hell cares about the seqkey pole

@@robya7843 nice spelling

@@petermickus8688 thank you

Taking as many drugs as she did, it will affect your brain.

You can say that about quite a few people in today's society. A big portion of this country has been Masoned.

@@dukey19941 yes drugs, particularly LSD were part of his brain washing tactics of ' dropping the ego'.

The depth of your research never ceases to amaze me! Great stuff Grimmlife! 🙂👍

epigenetics Im sure figured in; sounds like her parents werent fully normal people.

Yep. She tried to kill President Ford but didn’t have the gun loaded properly. We still have tons of gun crazies here. 🥺🇺🇸🥺🇺🇸

Are you sure?

Who tried to murder someone.

@@dukey19941 , someone here has sense! Thank you for saying that. I think it slipped past the commenters mind that this leftist icon tried to take a life and possibly had something to do with the murders that happened that fateful night at the mansion when the actress and heiress where butchered.

Tell us the best ones you remember!

Well that's very vague

Right 😒

It's very interesting how those crazy girls' narrative so closely resembles the new crazy left wing mob. You could put their manifesto side-by-side and it would look very very similar.

@@brickhouse3282 I don’t know, Kinda reminds me of MTG and Lauren Boebert

and they never snapped out of it no matter how old they got or how long they didnt see him, it's crazy!

@@joejones9520 its remarkable really how they were almost in a trance

Check out the movie "Charlie Says".

Charlie Says is on Netflix, btw.

Women are desperate to follow a strong male leader. It’s not that difficult to see how Manson did what he did. It would be easy for a Manson figure to do exactly the same thing today, particularly as there’s a lack of strong male leaders in many areas and arenas now.

He did not tell them to do it. They did in there minds what they wanted to do. He asked them individually “would you kill for me and face consequences?” They said yeah. He didn’t know Tex chose that house. He was in San Diego that night for getting a traffic ticket but Tex Watson chose her house. He did say he knew Sharon and seen her a couple of times at Denise’s and Elvis house. His story stayed the same after many years even the interviews but how many times did they change there story to what they did to those poor innocent people. They blamed Charles then they blamed Tex for the killings and then they changed to who they killed and didn’t kill. Steven parent sister made a point saying “Charles wasn’t there when the murders took place. He did not hold the gun to Susan, Patricia, Leslie or Tex’s head ordering them to kill them”. They knew what they were doing whether if it was drugs or no drugs. He knew Leno because Leno knew a guy named Frankie and he did ask where is Frankie to Leno but other then that Tex Watson and the girls killed them. They are just pointing fingers to other people for there own actions. Yes Charles may have been crazy in his own mind but he knows damn well where he was and what he was doing. It was not the only time they first killed. Bobby beausoleil killed Gary hinman for his Volkswagen and the Manson family killed Donald “Shorty” Shea because they thought he was an informant with the police after the Tate-Labianca murders. All those years the Manson girls never said sorry to the victims families. Paul Tate Sharon Tate’s father saw an interview of Susan Atkins in the 1980s an interviewer asked her “would you give out the words to say I’m sorry to the victims families?” Her response was “you ask hard questions”.. whats so hard about saying there truly sorry for what they have done. Several members of the Manson family did say that the Tate-Labianca murders was a way to get Bobby beausoleil out of prison to make it like it’s a black war. RIP to all the victims.

@@BlackDahlia26 He was not in San Diego that night getting a traffic ticket. That was earlier. He returned to the ranch before evening with Stephanie Schram, having been in San Diego. Also, you'd have to be out of your mind to trust Manson when he told Hard Copy that he'd met Sharon at the homes of Dennis Wilson or Elvis Presley, let alone that Tex chose the Tate house with no input from Manson. But believe what you want.

@@zebrastreet9993 yes everybody believes that Manson was crazy but you don’t get it either. I watched interviews, I watched parole hearings. I know what they kept doing to get out. People believing killers is just sick. Those girls and Tex Watson are monsters no matter what. You can believe what you want to hear. He does admit to some things he did but those girls keep changing there stories. Diane Lake wrote in her memoir he did meet Dennis Wilson and Dennis Wilson did say they met when he picked up 2 young women at sunset boulevard.

Kaleen Kee I’m not that interested in your overall view of the crimes. Everyone has an opinion, no matter how many interviews or parole hearings we watch or read. I was mostly just correcting your error about Manson not being present at the ranch on the evening of the Cielo murders. He was there, even by his own admission. Manson said a lot of shit in his interviews. Sure, some truth is in there but also a lot of horseshit. When he claimed to have met Sharon Tate, personally it is my opinion he is speaking in a riddle, using a metaphor. In other words, he didn’t literally mean Sharon. He meant Hollywood. People in the entertainment industry. That is the way he talked sometimes. But that is just my read of it. I also think he spewed plenty of nonsense during interviews because he had no love for the media and liked to mess with them. Taking him literally with stuff like that is a mistake. But whatever.

@@zebrastreet9993 I was talking about him not being at the Tate house. I didn’t care what he did at the ranch. Yes he did sound insane like I mentioned earlier. It don’t matter if he was in San Diego or at the ranch. A lot of people claim he was there but as a matter of fact he wasn’t. They all were insane that night. It’s nobody else fault but the ones who did the killing. Have a good day.

I detected a slight proper tone or formality in their speech that girls dont have today, funny considering they were extremely improper!

Lesser known?! Than the victims?!

Fromme is not really lesser known. She’s fairly infamous.

@@scottcastro9383 That's true, not really lesser known, but more worthless, I think.

Deb17 I was very young when the murders happened. What's fascinating is the devotion the girls had to Manson to the extent of shaving their heads.I do think that lynette squeaky fromme really did have an incredible fragile beauty when she was young, she was Not involved in the killings.

​@@johndean4765 I think she was a misguided lost soul. A very loyal person. When I see the footage of her interviews etc at the time, she actually seems like a sweet person and outgoing and friendly. Likeable. I am sure Charlie never would of asked her to go because frankly I don't think she would have had it in her to kill. Her father treated her crappy and I think Charlie showing her love was so foreign to her, that she was devoted to him forever. Sad she couldn't see through it and break away. I was 3 when this happened.

Agree. Trust but verify: I know you are always so courteous and polite with everyone, and want to acknowledge their wishes and comfort level, but if you want to film something from a public sidewalk or other public property - as I understand it - you can film anything or anyone you can see from a public space, even if what you are filming from public is a private space. Nor do you need anyone's permission to film them in public with no expectation of privacy (ask the paparazzi!).

A right but in this day and age of school shootings and child abductions it is understandable that schools do not want people taking pictures or video.

people have to be so careful about their kids and school. Good for him to be considerate of those who might be fearful of a stranger with a camera.

Film what your eyes can see in public it’s our right. Shame on the school from stopping you.

@dakota shea: damn straight👍👍

Odd, isn't it? John Hinckley Jr. (who shot Reagan in 1981) is out of prison/secured mental health facility. He lives with his mother in Virginia.

hinckley shot a president and several others with EXPLODING bullets, none of the victims were ever the same and one eventually died from the injuries but after yrs of living in pleasant facilities and not obeying orders to stop writing to jody foster, the dangerous nutcase is out and playing concerts...

The gun was never loaded. She was not about to do harm to the president at all. Which is why she was released in the end. She should have tried to make a point about the dammage to the planet in that way thou.

The Greta of the 70s😂

Both Polanski and Tate were know satanists. Still " adore" her?

@@jenniferwise8515 That is NOT true. I adore Sharon Tate as well. She was known as a very sweet person and had a lot of friends. Came from a good family. That is such a stupid rumor started by people who were freaked out about the murders and how such a thing could happen to innocent people. No one could make sense of it. Btw, check out the documentary about Jay Sebring. It's really good. It's here on youtube.

@@rubyputnam8526 not a rumor at all. Research her dad as well. Sharon was sadly a satanist.

@@jenniferwise8515 it doesnt matter because being a satanist is no different than being a leprechaun; neither is a real thing, anyone could call themselves that but still not a real thing. It is impossible for anything to violate our laws of cause and effect. Magic, religion, the occult is all bs, has never happened and cant happen.

@@jenniferwise8515 That QAnon/satanic panic stuff isn't real. Conspiracy theories about witches and devils has made some of you insane.

I have read that it was all staged.

Exactly...he wasn't powerful...his words were empty..If you are awake you wouldn't fall for his BS...he never Said anything relevant ...they were desperate lazy people he attracted around him..living in a non reality...all the flower power peace movement....and then they rob, hurt and then murder..Apparently few bodies buried at Spahn ranch...they killed people before LA Bianca and Taye murders....

Your full of shit

You're so full of shit 😂😂😂😂😂😂

She’s nuts and still support Charlie… she’s still dangerous

Hearing the girls singing credit to them Lovely voices and harmony.

@Grimmlifecollective, this is a great idea. Hopefully, a video soon on Jay Sebring. 👍

I've only seen a few pics of his home over the years and have never seen any pics of the inside, I always wondered what it looked like. Scott Michaels Six Degrees of Helter Skelter did a interview with the owner, it has quite the History. I absolutely love you guys KZfaq channel, you go to all the places I would love to see ,I look forward to every new one. So keep up the good work and thanks again for making a old lady 😃 smile.

These acts culturally were a loss of innocence for a nation. The end of the hippy flower child love and peace movement.

Wow would of thought he would of done seens he likes being in the lime light 🤔

@@Lucy-ek6ne It gets old-hat after awhile and the thrill eventually wears off..

@@duffbaker9554 and the fact he couldn't read or write hence sending the letter back unanswered 🤷‍♀️

chances are, your letter never reached charlie. guards read all incoming packages. the prison sent them back to you, not charlie.

​@@Lucy-ek6ne he could read. It's been stated many times that shortly before he stated recruiting people into a family, he read Dale Carnegie book "How to win friends and influence people"

Same here in ky...

Not really.

@Douglas Farshtey Oh, did he mastermind multiple murders?

No! It isend ! That is chaos by tom o Neil

Was on something @ that time ?

That’s not true in the least. Things did not go down the way everyone thinks it did. Her book is very illuminating if you’re interested though.

Gee, anyone is capable of being good or evil, most people choose not to. Whatever their background is it does not give them or anyone else the right to torture and maim and kill. LSF should never have been paroled.

@@niteowl365 Hinckley actually did shoot a president and others with exploding bullets, causing severe injuries and proving intent to kill, but he got out.

they were all musical, if theyd just practiced instead of always going out killing, they couldve ended up another famous 70's musical family, like the Osmonds or Jackson 5...."The Manson Family Singers."

@@joejones9520 Considering some of the other crazy ideas I've seen for sitcoms I'm surprised that wasn't the premise for one.

I watched a video of his recording at I believe Brian Wilson’s house, he was pretty good, but the Wilson’s and even Melcher didn’t like Charlie as person, his weird behavior and zero to crazy attitude turned them off. I liked the Clang clang one

Satan is not that bad ... She was just misunderstood. Satans a woman

You think she's Crazy wait until he does Susan Atkins! From her days with Anton Lavey. I wont get into murder of Sharon Tate let Micheal tell that. How she flipped on the grand jury. To becoming born again

Well I hope you know Roman Polanski hired the Manson Family to do these murders.

Cause he never killed anyone, the other demented ones did. Those girls were already fucked up.

“the devil himself”? hardly. a lot has come out about manson since his death, and a lot of the media portrayal of him and the family is pure fiction. sure made middle america fear hippies though, huh?

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I don't live in Stockton but I know it well... Flora street I may visit for historical purposes.