The story of the Led Zeppelin II "RL" pressings and how non-RL pressings were done in 1969. (Ep 89)

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Safe & Sound Texas Audio Excursion

Safe & Sound Texas Audio Excursion

Жыл бұрын

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**CORRECTION**:
In the video, I erroneously referenced Ahmet Ertegun's "daughter" when it was his NIECE:
"The story goes that Atlantic founder Ahmet Ertegun gave a copy to his brother Nesuhi to give to his daughter. Her "kiddie" phonograph couldn't track the record, which had been cut with full dynamic range and bass response (the notion that vinyl can't do wide dynamic range or deep bass is a bunch of hooey)." from Michael Fremer article: www.analogplanet.com/content/...
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CHAT GPT UPDATE STORY 20-Nov-2023
The discovery that the initial pressings of Led Zeppelin II had a manufacturing error that caused a skip in the "Whole Lotta Love" track was made by a listener named Barry Diament. Barry Diament was a high school student at the time, and he noticed the skip while listening to the album on his newly purchased copy.
Diament brought the issue to the attention of Atlantic Records, Led Zeppelin's record label, and it was confirmed that there was a problem with the pressing of the album. The skip occurred at around the 4:12 mark of "Whole Lotta Love." The error was related to the mastering and pressing process during the manufacturing of the vinyl records.
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The classic 2nd LP from Led Zeppelin, appropriately named Led Zeppelin II, was a smash hit in 1969.
The opening track, Whole Lotta Love, was a 45RPM single in the US (the UK decided not to release it as a single at the request of their manager, Peter Grant) and reached #4 on the Billboard charts. The song timed in at 5:44 on the LP and the DJ Radio single had that track on one side and a 3:12 edited version on the flip side for radio play. That edit was disliked by Grant and the band for obvious reasons. Would you cut off part of the body of the Mona Lisa painting?
That song, with the intense bass lines was mastered and cut by Robert "Bob" Ludwig who was with Sterling Sound at the time. He famously inscribed his RL initials in the deadwax to identify his work. He was one of the first to provide that unique Mastering Engineer ID and it certainly helped in this case!
Anyway, this video tells the story of what happened on that first mastering effort and why it was pulled and modified just as the LP gained traction in the market. And how future presses were sourced which really was a surprise to me! All these years, this was news to me.
Hope you find something interesting here as well. Thanks for watching.

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@muzzy1978
@muzzy1978
The RL cut is always a good test for a new turntable. If your setup can handle it then rest assured it can cope with anything else you throw at it. I have a copy with the narrow deadwax on Side 2 and when I say narrow, I mean there's barely any room for the run-out groove and yet it holds up right to the end. If you see one come up, grab it. It's the best way to hear this iconic album.
@farrellmcnulty909
@farrellmcnulty909 Жыл бұрын
I can NOT believe the master was replaced by one made from a...CASSETTE - oh sure EQ - all well and good, but....A CASSETTE...
@mccarthyd6603
@mccarthyd6603 Жыл бұрын
If I got a nickel for every time I have looked at deadwax on a copy of this album.....someday I will see those magic RL initials in the wild....someday🙏🙏
@michaellourie4252
@michaellourie4252 Жыл бұрын
Super video!! Many thanks. I've got one of the RL/LH....very happy.
@De_La_Soto
@De_La_Soto Жыл бұрын
Awesome video! I’m still on the hunt for two Ludwig-mastered albums: Led Zeppelin II and Rage Against The Machine’s debut.
@jaycoleman8062
@jaycoleman8062
Once you hear the RL version, the next version sounds like there is a blanket over your speakers. Bonzo''s snare drum is amazing...Im lucky enough to ave a double sided RL.
@jeremyfoster8366
@jeremyfoster8366 Жыл бұрын
I've always just referred to it as the RL cut or RL hot cut. I've got 5 of them (2 Monarch, 2 Presswells and a Columbia Pitman). My best copy is a solid VG+ PR. My other 4 are VG or lower. Even in a beat up grade the RL cut sound pretty damn powerful and if turned up loud enough will drowned out the surface noise to a pretty decent extent.
@ConcertBuddie
@ConcertBuddie Жыл бұрын
Great walk through David! I bet this will be a highly watched + highly appreciated video. 👍🏻
@MichaelNoland-TheBottomLine
@MichaelNoland-TheBottomLine Жыл бұрын
Great info David! You went the extra mile on this one brother!❤❤❤
@automatedelectronics6062
@automatedelectronics6062 Жыл бұрын
Great explanation!
@novisnick6928
@novisnick6928 Жыл бұрын
Txs David! Always digging to the real truth of a story!
@asmallwhitedog0479
@asmallwhitedog0479
I got mine many years ago when vinyl was headed to the graveyard. Excellent copy for 75 bucks. Amazing sound. Its just barks when it comes out of the speakers.
@gratefuldawgs2738
@gratefuldawgs2738 Жыл бұрын
I just picked up a copy a few months ago. No regrets that said it was salty $300. It’s VG/+ and Sounds AMAZING! I’d say they will only get harder to find, not making anymore of these! Good Video 🎶⚡️✌️
@Grooverski
@Grooverski Жыл бұрын
Informative as always. 👍🏻❤️🙏🏻
@davidnelms5726
@davidnelms5726
Excellent explanation. Thank you
@jasonarsenault3791
@jasonarsenault3791 Жыл бұрын
Great stuff. Such a great story
@TheAgeOfAnalog
@TheAgeOfAnalog Жыл бұрын
Somehow, I've been fortunate enough to come across three of these since I opened my record store back in 2019. My keeper is a solid VG+ and it sounds HUGE.
@Bootradr
@Bootradr Жыл бұрын
Very interesting. I know somebody I believe that has that RL side and L? (I forget Lee's last name) sided pressing. Thanks for the info David.
@rixvspinner
@rixvspinner Жыл бұрын
The letter from Bob Ludwig explains it all, great work in obtaining and posting on your video David. The Greg Calbi mastered Zeppelin II about 4 years or so after the Ludwig, is comparable to the RL record. Most don't know this which enabled me to obtain a copy. He used RL's notes and mastered it almost as good- I have compared the RL with my GC and they are very close. My friend brought his RL over to compare and both sound awesome. So at the least the GC is 2nd to the RL. All of this because of Warner Brothers US CEO Ahemt Ertegun's daughter's crappy turntable skipping when she played the album. Then Greg Calbi basically restored what Robert Ludwig did from RL's notes. The way Ahmet handled this was not a good decision and one of the very few bad choices he made since he was probably the most beloved record label head of all time. Check out his history, very interesting and he got to work with and know so many great musicians.
@carrion_man3700
@carrion_man3700
We just refer to this as the “Hot Cut” version.
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