The STRANGEST Freight Move I've Seen This Year To Date!!

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Жыл бұрын

Where to start with this one.. 90047 hauling a real mixed bag just as it's going dark through Stafford!
We see 90047 with a freshly painted 66509, followed by a series of graffiti sprayed hopper wagons acting as barrier braking coaches for a brand new Class 197 unit - 197006..!! A rare and very random combination/convoy!
6Q97 Wolverton Centre Sidings to Crewe Basford Hall
That livened up a quiet evening!
Hope you enjoy the video! Thanks for watching
#90047 #66509 #newpaintjob #newpaint #newpaintscheme #class197 #197006 #convoy #trainconvoy #freighttrain #freighttrains #freighttrainconvoy

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@317Dan Жыл бұрын

Nice to see a video of a move I had a hand in planning! The outward run took 90016 for repaint and 66509 has just come out from the paintshop, and the 197 needed taking away from Wolverton so we thought why not kill 3 birds with 1 stone!

@trainsplanes Жыл бұрын

Good planning I’d say 👍👍👍

@bazza945 Жыл бұрын

Kudos!

@stevieb55 Жыл бұрын

Are the coal wagons the same wagons that were taken out of York yard last week?

@martinjh999 Жыл бұрын

@317 Dan Are Freightliner changing their livery then?? Much prefer the old one (like that other 66 on the other line) although I'm sure the new one will grow on me!

@shanestephens2877 Жыл бұрын

@@martinjh999 Yep the colours of the parent company and IMO looks bloody disgusting.

@jonathanbutson1385 Жыл бұрын

the wagons are probably for brake force. When moving a DMU in a freight train the DMUs brakes aren't compatible with freight train brakes, so they usually are isolated, with extra vehicles added to the consist to ensure it has enough braking.

@spencerhardy8667 Жыл бұрын

As they say about railway modelling, you can make something absolutely precise to the photographic record... Or you can do what you want, and someone somewhere will have proof that it happened.

@tomoliver3177 Жыл бұрын

When you're playing with your model railway and decide to couple everything up for a giggle ...

@nlemecfc Жыл бұрын

We saw this train on our journey from London to Shrewsbury via Crewe and wondered what it was all about. Great to see it covered.

@ConProductions 2 ай бұрын

Great catch and definitely a weird move

@558vulcanxh Жыл бұрын

Thanks that was very interesting, the 90 was drawing some current , sparking away like old times before they were built Well done 👏 and thanks again Sir

@davern6 Жыл бұрын

Paint jobs look fresh!! Look forward to seeing one

@calebmumby5803 Жыл бұрын

nice shot

@begudmaximan953 Жыл бұрын

Formated mixed consist, 'next available transit' unusual but is perfectly viable. Lucky capture 👍

@edsutton115 Жыл бұрын

Immense catch, well filmed. Thanks for sharing!

@marksinthehouse1968 Жыл бұрын

When they delivered the S stock on the underground they used bogie tank wagons ,and when I worked at CLJ the then new 707s had a similar arrangement

@carailphotography Жыл бұрын

Freightliner were just like "gahhh screw it we'll stick all this lot together"

@bernicewild5979 Жыл бұрын

Well- done

@trainsplanes Жыл бұрын

Thanks Bernice 👍

@ANDY1968100 Жыл бұрын

It's state of the art in Germany to tow a heavy, "dead" train with fright-cars to help breaking!

@calvingrondahl1011 Жыл бұрын

66509, impressive orange with racing stripes. We have that same G&W livery repainting Utah Rail.

@rogercrighton3536 Жыл бұрын

Lovely thankyou

@ianjones4116 Жыл бұрын

Very rare move,, very nice too. 😎👍

@171trains Жыл бұрын

That 66 was freshly painted I think, and I'm guessing that 197 needed dragging so they multitasked the-also wierd seeing a 90 pulling something which isn't an intermodal

@trainsplanes Жыл бұрын

The 66 was indeed fresh out of the paint shop - It’s all been lumped together as one very unique movement. Good to see 👍

@colinbrooks228 Жыл бұрын

@@trainsplanes went dont to wolverton as 2 x 90 one class got left at wolverton for repaint

@stewartatkinson4179 Жыл бұрын

Fantastic video!

@trainsplanes Жыл бұрын

Thanks Stewart.. 👍

@jonathanbutson1385 Жыл бұрын

having a closer look, as 1 pair of DMU doors are open, the DMU brakes must be isolated.

@runways_railways Жыл бұрын

Yes, very strange and unusual

@121Jaykay Жыл бұрын

Hi Nice catch New stock for Wales!

@Delta-pantages Жыл бұрын

Wow! All that overhead! How can the grafiti be stopped?

@vwgolf9826 Жыл бұрын

Great diversity here, something for everyone in this train.

@MarkAHHDvideostreaming Жыл бұрын

Nice catch

@ormondsworld3947 Жыл бұрын

Nice!

@richarddodd5832 Жыл бұрын

Ran twice last week with different 197's from wolverton works but with only a class 66.

@Debbiestrainsandtoys Жыл бұрын

It would've been super perfect if the Trafford park to Felixstowe was lead by 66510 but ohh well you can never too perfect

@PurpleandCoRailwayAdventures Жыл бұрын

That was epiiccccccc

@EM-yk1dw Жыл бұрын

Making its way through the undergrowth I see.

@justinobrien3593 Жыл бұрын

Thats an unusual load a class 90 pulling a shed then a emu plus hoppers quite a strange load that 🤔 nice catch tho 😎

@trainsplanes Жыл бұрын

Thanks Justin 👍

@johnathanrowley2707 Жыл бұрын

The fright wagons are acting as barrier wagons which provides extra brake force for the dead train

@eeclass20 Жыл бұрын

The brand new unit in the consist will not have operating brakes, the coal hoppers will be providing braking power. The class 90 will probably come off at Crewe and the diesel continue towards Wales.

@marcusdamberger Жыл бұрын

I'm from the U.S., fascinating mixed bag of a trainset. However, the passenger multiple unit, it's doors don't line up well with the platform here. They seem too high. Are the platforms in Wales higher up than in this part of the U.K.? If so, what do they do about long distance trains, how to they accommodate the different platforms heights? I know in the U.S. there are a few lines like this, but the passenger cars have some high doors and low doors to accommodate the different platform heights, but this is all on one commuter line usually specific to that service.

@gregoryrourke7417 Жыл бұрын

🐳

@Timrud1 Жыл бұрын

@@marcusdamberger you get all sorts of platform heights and gaps. Train manager will have a ramp on board to assist passengers if needed.

@pedromorgan99 Жыл бұрын

Yep agree.. Its a brake pipe train.. maybe the second loco in tow is the main "brake" from a "tractive effort" point to view.. Interesting intermix to unwind.. probably siding limits

@UKHeritageRailways Жыл бұрын

There is no H in Wales.

@andyrichardsvideovlogs8835 Жыл бұрын

Well that's certainly different 👍

@PoxyMoxon97 Жыл бұрын

Nice capture - it isn't a fright move but a unit drag / delivery, the wagons are there as break force for the unit. I would have ventured out to Wolverton if I weren't busy - very interesting to see a set of doors weren't fully closed, I knew they had issues with doors befote they departed.

@stephenparker6476 Жыл бұрын

Well said I agree with you not a freight movement New unit being delivered

@stephensmith4480 Жыл бұрын

It makes me wonder, if the hoppers were purely for Brake force, why was there 5 of them in rear? unless they were the only wagons available and they just left them together.

@petec2583 Жыл бұрын

@@stephensmith4480 The auto brake has to be operational on the last vehicle in the train as per the rule book. I believe Freightliner require it to be operational on the last 3 minimum.

@stephensmith4480 Жыл бұрын

@@petec2583 I`m not sure what the standard is for Freightliner, I thought it was a Network Rail group standard for everyone being the same. Although the requirement is to only check the Tail lamp Vehicle during the Brake test, the wording of the Rule Book changed to Having The Minimum Brake force in rear as required. Still makes me wonder why there were 5 vehicles in rear if it was purely for Brake force unless as I said, they just happened to be together, I know I wouldn`t split them and I have been doing it for 33 years.

@stevewareing8525 Жыл бұрын

What were the odds on that combo? 🤔👍

@jelle2884 Жыл бұрын

thats one open door :)

@olly5764 Жыл бұрын

I suspect the 66 is there to take the train somewhere without wires, possibly not very far, the unit is in transit, of course. Locos normally need the train to do the majority of the braking, and I suspect they probably can't operate the brakes on the unit from the loco meaning the wagons are there for braking power.

@andyash5675 Жыл бұрын

I heard that Unigate had contacted Network Rail about reinstating mixed freight services!

@shauntakata1762 Жыл бұрын

When they do a load like that, do they get charged for all of the axles? I mean does whoever bought the train have to pay for delivery including all axles of the train? Did they do that because the brake systems are not compatible?

@johnclarke2997 Жыл бұрын

Back in the days of BR, they once had a plan of using some DMU's to pull goods trains to the smaller out of the way locations. Never happened, but I think the concept is used in other countries.

@bfapple Жыл бұрын

This was featured in a Thomas The Tank Engine story when Daisy (a Class 121) was asked to pull a milk car.

@BerlietGBC Жыл бұрын

I sure they did this in Ireland, the units that did this had heavier transmissions

@RailsOfTheSouth Жыл бұрын

I like the Genesee And Wyoming Locomotives

@johngibson4641 Жыл бұрын

Yep a different it was a different consort ,, maybe the passengercars had some flat tryes by the sound of it .. you could hear it in both parts of the video's. Good to see that they are putting headlights on trains in the U.K. finally. How many (if anyone knows) of them diesel 66 class engines were made ? Cheers from John in Australia

@UKHeritageRailways Жыл бұрын

Approximately 690 of which the UK has around 480.

@EssexGayBoi Жыл бұрын

UK Loco's have always had headlights of some discription..

@HyperBlueWolf Жыл бұрын

GBRf tried to buy some new Class 66 in 2017, but new UK emission regulations stopped them from placing an order. In the end they had to buy old class 56 locomotives and upgrade them to class 69 instead (because it was cheaper than developing new locomotives).

@Ragatha-aviation-doll 7 ай бұрын

A double header- class 90 + class 66-JHA-transport for wales-class 197-unit drag?

@aviationtrainsfc1 Жыл бұрын

It went through Nuneaton station when I was nearby :(:(:(

@emeraldzebra9360 Жыл бұрын

That's just a Dead locomotive drag and a New unit movement with brakeforce wagons on too

@markrobert6028 Жыл бұрын

First and Third Class.

@ianhudson2193 Жыл бұрын

Well....it isn't a freight working is it? Just a brand new unit being moved using convertor/brake force wagons....🤷‍♂️

@justincrawford7508 Жыл бұрын

Unit was out of guage as a set of doors were open.

@mtty1988 Жыл бұрын

Best part of video is the Announcement of the delayed avanti train

@ormondsworld3947 Жыл бұрын

Not uncommon lol

@TrBoy87 2 ай бұрын

Intercity 225 freight train???

@carlosfalcato9414 Жыл бұрын

🚂🚂🚂🚂👌👌

@hesterclapp9717 Жыл бұрын

A class 90 pulling a class 66 pulling freight wagons and a 197 in there cause why not

@1701_FyldeFlyer Жыл бұрын

Surprised the train even moved considering the carriage door was open!

@najaB76 Жыл бұрын

The unit would have been dead though so the door interlock wouldn't be active.

@darrenwilliams118 Жыл бұрын

The unit is unbraked hence the wagons for brake force. What I am concerned about is the open doors would take the unit out of gauge.

@amethyst7084 Жыл бұрын

Never thought I woukd see passenger carriages tethered to freight wagons. Very unusual 🤔

@EssexGayBoi Жыл бұрын

not unusual at all, the passenger unit was Not in use, is Brand new & being delivered to where it will based, the freight wagons are used for brake force, as the unit is switched off.

@Sophiebryson510 Жыл бұрын

Ooh

@Martindyna Жыл бұрын

Nice video. I wonder why the 66's engine was idling (characteristic ying ying) although it didn't seem to be working in multiple with the 90 (assuming that's possible) when pulling away.

@nathan83699 Жыл бұрын

London Gateway to Garston with 66594 arrived an hour early!

@bfapple Жыл бұрын

Not possible to multi - the Class 90s don’t have AAR.

@nathan83699 Жыл бұрын

@@bfapple no mate, 66594 was on 4M58 which is behind, 66509 was turned off

@bfapple Жыл бұрын

@@nathan83699 I was replying to the original comment.

@johno4521 Жыл бұрын

3.00- is the 66 running? Also I'm surprised the 197s weren't placed at the back of the train. - are passenger trains structurally strong enough to safely pull freight wagons, albeit empty?

@trainsplanes Жыл бұрын

66509 wasn’t running however the class 66 behind on the Garston Intermodal was so it probably gave that impression. 👍

@neilcrawford8303 Жыл бұрын

Like the deliveries of 777s they use wagons as both coupling translator vehicles and to provide brake force. That DMU would be treated as unbraked through piped, so would need sufficient amount of vehicles behind it to provide the required brake force to stop in the unlikely event that the train split.

@nathan83699 Жыл бұрын

@@trainsplanes that was 66594 that was left running for around 1 hour

@zzmike Жыл бұрын

That "semi open" door would have tempted many the UK would-be hobo!

@jonco2969 Жыл бұрын

Definitely... Mixed.. Traffic.. 🤔

@nathan83699 Жыл бұрын

Ah so you were the one who I spoke to!

@trainsplanes Жыл бұрын

That could well have been me 😜

@Class43Goat Жыл бұрын

a class 66, 90 and 197 all in one train lol

@send2gl Жыл бұрын

Why a double header I wonder, just 9 trucks or was second loco just being moved maybe?

@trainsplanes Жыл бұрын

Hi Geoff, the class 66 was a non-runner - It was hitching a ride back as it had just come out of the paint shop.

@fussyboy2000 Жыл бұрын

@1:40 are the doors mean to be open?

@trainsplanes Жыл бұрын

No - They should be closed..

@keithgilham9438 Жыл бұрын

Clearly that multiple unit identifys as a freight wagon

@BIGV710 Жыл бұрын

thats the new train so hobos can travel in comfort [hobo]a american slang for tramps plus new colour looks like a JAFFA cake

@muhammedmataj Жыл бұрын

Veuh why is there a passenger train

@mikajung4083 Жыл бұрын

Wdym this is CLEARLY a passenger train smh 🤣

@martw5291 Жыл бұрын

Anyone seen my 197? I left it somewhere.... 😅

@fetchstixRHD Жыл бұрын

Should have parked it properly, it got towed away by wardens 😂

@alanspencer6876 Жыл бұрын

Not classed as a Freight move.

@K-o-R Жыл бұрын

Not a fan of the paint job (or lack thereof) on the front of the 197.

@pedromorgan99 Жыл бұрын

Na.. guys.. its a fake CGI.. some guys winding you up.. How come green ones have graffiti.. Blender.copy etc...

@minusjos Жыл бұрын

comments of an insane person

@pedromorgan99 Жыл бұрын

@@minusjos No trust me.. a follow Captain Disillusion.. which shows you how to fake videos.. and this is typical... kzfaq.info/get/bejne/n7J5dLClld28qoU.html

@HyperBlueWolf Жыл бұрын

@@minusjos This is the internet, what do you expect?