This is honestly absolutely stupid penalty.

Starting a pro series without damage is bollocks seriously.

If the game didn't detect a cut then it's fine unless otherwise stated by the league organisers before the event starts, can't just start making rules up because someone is salty they ran wide/cut the track and got a penalty 🤷

I love how even youtube thinks this is rf2 XD

it doesn't matter if you went too wide or not. the game didn't give you a penalty so it didn't think you went wide so effectively the stewards have just said that the game can't detect penalties correctly and is broken... pretty much sums up rennsport

The way the car moves on track is so odd looking.

I would have rage quit and said "sorry, I refuse to compete in a corrupt competition. If the stewards are going to fuck up that badly, the series isn't professional enough for me. Good day."

This series is so devalued in so many ways.

That penalty was BS... when there is literally an in-game track limits enforcement/penalty system (and presumably no reliable way to trick/exploit it), how can someone overrule that? Nonsense. Chair umpires do not overrule hawk-eye, football refs do not overrule goal-line technology. Idk, I would be seething

I'd much rather see you in ACC SRO races than this dumpster fire.

Rubbish penalty.

This game makes me think I'm watching Formula Drift

Its like the audio budget for this game was 3 dollars.

The tires cool down in dirty air hahahaha this game... SIM...

why does this car sound like a dehumidifer

I'm getting "car sick" from the way how the car moves / bounce on the track....

The entirely of the stewarding during this championship looks like terrifying imo And the song of the engine mate... It's hard to watch and even more when things like this happens Keep pushing James we got your back ! Sorry for my english btw

Nice to see Road Atlanta. One of my favorite tracks, such a fun rollercoaster in the first half. Also, showing the external cameras comparing the track limit cuts makes it so apparent how wack the physics are in Rennsport right now, jesus. Looks like you're driving cars from the 70s with how bouncy and slidey things are

To wait until a couple of laps into the race to apply a penalty from quali is as ludicrous as it sounds. Stewards look like jokes here expecting you to drop yourself to last

Hate being an elitist, gatekeeper, or whatever, but this game is an abomination, the stewards have mental problems, and the developers seem shady as hell. There is no way this game can release within the next year, much less succeed. Genuinely baffling that they're trying to have a serious e-sports scene like this, particularly being standing-start GT3 sprint races.

Enjoyed the analysis James! Excellent commentary that helps me learn a bit of racecraft and thought process. The penalty seemed rediculous given that the Sim didn't detect an off track. Best of luck in your future races!

Why on earth did they allow that protest? Even if it was true that you went outside track limits and gained an advantage, it should've been agreed that its is NOT the fault of the driver to push the game to such a limit, because that's your job... Delusional from the stewards as well to believe that their observation of track limits to better than the in-game computer assuming the system is functioning normally, which is probably true because it didn't give you a penalty. What an absolute disaster of organisation by the stewards and organisers of the event. Don't make up rules during the event because the originally rules are flawed, it makes the situation so much worse.

love the track but the car audio o.O

Ridiculous. They basically overruled the game digital "sensors" saying the game has bugs? Without looking at all the other players? this is politics, this is corruption. One of the reasons why Rennsport beta hs been deleted time ago.

Gave it a like because I enjoy your content, not because I enjoy Rennsport. Keep it up James.

No Mikey no, this is so not right! I would have just parked up on the grass making a yellow flag to the chicane which is the only passing place and say my buggy game froze. Or at least just pitted.

Yohan is goat at this track in iRacing, not a huge surprise. Thanks for sharing nice racing but that was a bit um what moment. Would be cool if you did a video of where you lost time, similar to your le mans pole video.

I steward in an acc league and if the game doesn't give you a track limit warning or invalidate your lap you didn't exploit track limits. You carried a minimum speed of 153kph through the corner, the porshe carried 155kph minimum so went through faster, both beemers carry 154kph. You went through the corner the slowest out of those 3 cars and took a slower line not taking the gravel so personally I do not agree with that penalty.

I like the steward consistency, reminds me of football VAR atm 😬😇 Always enjoy your run throughs dude 👍

How do the physics and car dynamics feel compared to say ACC or iracing

James Baldwin vids all ways the optimal watch while brushing your teeth

I feel like a penalty from a protest should give you a detailed explanation of why they gave you the penalty instead of you guessing what you did wrong.

The cars sound horrible

Is there even a rule about it? Thats all that matters. The penalty is definitely wrong, but what rule gives the stewards the ability to penalise you for tracklimits in quali? Totally BS.

Absolutely rubbish call by the stewards. Interested to know if the organizers even talked to you about overruling the in game penalty system. If they didn't make it clear this is even worse. I'm struggling to take notice of Rennsport as an average punter, They obviously didn't make the game for the public and its soul purpose is to be used for esports, so why do they have no confidence in the in game penalty system? this all feels half baked to me.

It looks like the middle of the car is the pivoting point it just looks weird

This is totally ridiculous. Absolutely agree with u

This is just horrendous, I don't know the Off-Track Rules in the Sporting Code. But 1) This was no Off-Track were you gained anything 2) If the Track Limit System doesn't catch you, where is the consistency 3) Qualifying Penalties need to be given in the Qualifying or afterwards applying to the result. 4) Giving you a 3 Grid Penalty is not corresponding to the incident 5) Changing it from 3 to 4 IS JUST AMATEUR LEVEL of Stewarding

This game looks like RFactor from 2006

I would have pulled over into the grass, pressed alt+f4, then uninstalled the game. Good on you for finishing in last though

This game need at least one more year before releasing to market, i tested it, there are good aspects, but need a lot of work into it; sounds, graphics, tripple screen support, brake management as you almost can not lock tires etc...

That's an interesting call to say the least... Not surprised that you were fuming

Your my favorite eSport Racer. Keep up the great driving mate. Cheers. I dont think your pace was that bad. You did gap p3 by 1.1 seconds. So theres that. Just why were you not as fast as p1. Oh and the penalty was tough but not fair in my opinion. The gravel and dipped one wheel it looked like off track.

Something about this game looks off. It looks like you're going to spin every time you touch the wheel, but it also looks like you're doing on 30mph.

I mean if there is a penalty sistem that detects the track limits and gives slow downs(like in raceroom in the races for example) I don't understand why should the stewards be involved.If a sistem is put in place and it doesn't detect it It's fair game.If they reviewed your lap and someone else's because of a protest they should have checked everyone's lap because that means the track limits system is inconsistent or rubish.

ESL is essentially virtual leman expect instead of the servers being a joke it’s the league and the stewarding being a joke of an organization.

Rennsport and ESL are a mess.

It’s too little too late for them to give that penalty. Pretty sus decision making.

Makes no sense at all to give someone a penalty if the game does not. Also, if they are going to be checking everything, why aren't people given a penalty for using the grass on corner entry, that is a OBVIOUS exploit of track limits and physics limitation no?

I've driven RA in real life and I don't know much about Rennsport, but are they using laser scanned tracks? I started watching James qualy lap and immediately I thought, this does not look to me like RA does in real life. AC seems to do a great job at capturing it. Can't speak to iRacing as I haven't driven this track on that sim.

The penalty is just dumb. That unintentional track limits 'exploit' (bug) with applying common sense can be easily ignored from my point of view. You did not start first, it was not obvious gaining anything and it is not your fault and giving a penalty in the middle of the race is just very wrong. I wish you better luck in the following races, James! The rest looks good 🤘

This is very simple, if the game did not gave you the penalty, there is nothing to be served. We just watched a rigged result in eSports. I always thought this game was shady and things like this just helps my theory.

man, that car does not look right at all going over that chicane at 0:28

its a track cut, if you did not gain anything from it and the game doesnt flag you then wtf is the problem?

I hope people realize that you have your graphic setting turned down to improve performance. If the settings were maxed out the game is beautiful

This looks like the least fun experience you could have doing any sim racing whatsoever.

I guess it all depends on the series rules. If stewards/organisers can hand out penalties for infringements at their own discretion then unfortunately you're at the mercy of the dictators. I'm guessing they deemed that exit as exploiting the physics (some how) that the game didn't detect. However, in any case, if what you did was wrong and the game didn't detect it then its a bad look for the game (eg grass clipping) and it leaves a bad taste in the mouths of sim racers. Online in other streams comments about the penalty make the whole thing appear to be a bit of a joke and the comments about the series is pretty negative because of this penalty. So, I'd say, dumb move on the part of stewards and organisers.

Yeah you got absolutely bullshitted there ngl. The more I see about the league the less I feel the desire to watch it. What I find interesting about the penalty is that they upped it within less than a lap from 3 positions to 4, makes it seem like decision for the 3 place pen was made without much thought behind it which makes the fact that you got it some time into the race even weirder. Imo a time penalty at the end of the race would have made much more sense but I’m obviously not a steward. Let’s hope you don’t get into a similar situation at the lan

The physics look dreadful

Seems like there are some politics at play. Very hard to get away from it in real life too. Or stewards flexing their muscles, maybe for an advantage. I agree with you. Thanks for the vid.

That penalty is absolute bs. Imagine they change the track limit rules for something like f1, after the qualifying is already done. "Well we gave you the track limits, but you should have known that we will change them for this corner here, that's a penalty for you sir" What a shitshow of a series. Pls quit that kind of shit, for your own sake.

I get almost sick from watching it alone, let alone driving it. Why the hell they thought its a good idea to make the track bounce, not the car visually? Have any of them opened eyes? dont they know how human sight work?

Thats not fair, if they have ingame systems to detect tracklimits and aslong its not an obvious cut to cheat the system, there should be no penalty.

das wackelt wie in einer seifenkiste

You didn't touch the cones on the outside and got punished for being skilled enough to be that close to the limit, ESL is really not doing a good pr for Rennsport, there is an early damage model they just didn't enable it, I'm disappointed what esl is doing with the game. But I'm more disappointed with simracers who are overly toxic with the sim and try to compare it to ACC in every aspect like it's some holy grail, rs is not even released yet and ACC was unplayable after release for a quite few months yet they asked full price for it. I didn't know this community is so toxic until there was a new player on the market, same story with AMS2, just chill, choose your favourite sim and instead of making the devs wanna bin a project appreciate the fact that you're not forced to play Toca Race driver 2 for the rest of your life

The more i see of Rennsport and Esl the more I find this kind of esports and game ridiculous, there's more fun in LFM or just normal multiplayer of other sims. I dont wish harm on anyone but really hope this esport phase dies out quick. btw the music on the last part slaps

How can stewards just subjectively decide the game got it wrong when it’s literally a hard coded line?!?!

This series is turning out to be pretty garbage and is actually quite bad publicity for this game. Real shame, but it's killed almost any excitement I had for this game coming out. Love the content as always though, James. Good luck in the next rounds!

Well if the game didn't detect means it didn't happen. Is as simple as that no? Even if they want to penalize u, and i do agree with u on how its being given (late and the severity) its just wrong. Definitely should have been done earlier and imho even if they think u gain time from the off-track, clearly ur quali time didn't show because u only manage to qualify p8. It's not like u did a 16.8/quali p4 or something. If so, yes that penalty is justifiable. But 17.1/p8 and 4 position to give back, that's just too much. At best 1 position if they really feel u took advantage of it.

Good track. I take my supra to it often. I live about 30 min away.

Racing with no damage is not racing at all. Takes the Sim out of the race.

Come back to ACC - at least with Kunos we know track limits are funky to begin with (plus we'll have Nords' next year). This whole Rennsport adventure for you has been an exercise in racecraft-frustration and rule-oddities - usually through no fault of your own either. Time to leave it behind after Sweden, it's already ded to the playing community anyways.

The more I see of this game the more I feel sorry that you lads have to sweat your ass off playing it. I'm sure you guys would rather be playing something else but can't really

good to see 0 tc is still a thing

Penalty aside, this series is dumb. A one-shot qualifying followed by cars just driving in a single file line for 12 laps. The whole top 6 business is dumb. Format is terrible

Well this is a advert not to buy Rennsport

thats just ridiculous

There could have been any reason for you not getting a slowdown. Sims are buggy pieces of shit, so it could be literally anything. Could even be the fact that you didn’t widen the entry like the others did. Regardless, you inadvertently did something the others didn’t, and since you’re all working to the game’s penalty system it’s fair game. The stewards must have thought they were righting a wrong, but sadly they ended up doing the opposite…

If it's a game, then if the game doesn't punish something, it shouldn't be punished.

Everything about Rennsport is just sub-par, so it doesn't surprise me that the race organisation is amateur hour as well. Punishing you for the shortcomings of their rickety game. Total nonsense.

Penalty+stewards=hot garbage!

Is this a mobile game you can play with a wheel?

Rennsport as a whole, not only that eSport scene, is a complete joke. Dont think it will be very successfull. They already messed up

Just let go of Rennsport. It will die eventually. Don‘t let ESL and rennsport have a negative impact on you. It is not worth it

That was a bogus penalty James, great driving otherwise.

I watch your Rennsport videos to support you and the channel, not because the racing is any good. This series and sim are a dumpster fire. The penalty and how late it was given is just further proof. Sorry dude 😔

It was nonsense to be sure...horrible call.

totally stupid stewards, but it looks its quite usual to have stewards mistakes in top simracing events

Worse than var mate robbed

It’s all fixed !!! if the game didn’t detect it then there’s no penalty someone’s payed of the official

wtf is this physics, people give AMS2 crap and then call this good? what in hell

I miss you in ACC, rensport is ugly to watch and the physics look whack especially in that chase cam view

It was clearly said in the briefing though that if you touch the cones on the exit of T5 you will get your lap deleted even if the game doesn't do it automatically. Maybe you missed that and hence why the confusion.

This game looks like it’s garbage to drive.

This game looks SO BAD... cars a drifting everywhere...

This game looks depressiong lol. Great driving tho

damn

This series (game and stewarding) is such a sad joke. Way to entice people to buy your game on release

At the end of the video you forgot to say "we" and started using "me". I think you need to delete the video because of that.

Play gran turismo 7