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In this episode, REWORK host Kimberly Rhodes, talks with Jason Fried and David Heinemeier Hansson, co-founders of 37signals, about the importance of stepping out of the day-to-day operations as a founder. Giving employees room to call the shots can spark new ideas and get things done faster. It also inspires people to think beyond just following orders.
Key Takeaways:
00:34 - The result of holding your grip too tight in your organization
02:36 - Find the middle ground between projects you should be directly involved in and those that can be managed by others
08:38 - Giving employees the freedom to make decisions can lead to increased productivity and better ideas
10:20 - Stepping in when it's necessary to realign urgency or quality
12:54 - Not all opinions weigh the same
15:28 - Trying to be involved in every task or decision reduces the organization's effectiveness
22:48 - Intent prompts people to think independently instead of just following a set of instructions, as described in the book Turn the Ship Around.
Links and Resources:
Staying Out of It Blog Post by Jason Fried - world.hey.com/jason/staying-o...
Turn The Ship Around book - davidmarquet.com/turn-the-shi...
Blue Ocean Strategy book - www.blueoceanstrategy.com/boo...
Books by 37signals - 37signals.com/books
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