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@THELIFEOFPRICE2 жыл бұрын
Nice video man!
@ParkerTheBasshead2 жыл бұрын
Yessir! Thanks for helping me get this beast fixed
@KaySwiss212 жыл бұрын
Ide like to see what some of these salt amps can do... Debating whether to grab a taramps for my xv3 or a salt amp
@colemcdougal76702 жыл бұрын
@@KaySwiss21 salt
@KaySwiss212 жыл бұрын
@@colemcdougal7670 yah I'm still debating, the 769 price tag for the salt 2 is up there tho.... Sundown also has a smart version amp like the taramps smart 3&5.. it's their SIA line... I've been researching those as well
@derekgardin15122 жыл бұрын
@@KaySwiss21 salt.
@jimmyjam55882 жыл бұрын
I vote a custom sub box for the zv6 and a revisit 😊
@itdoesntmatterwhatyourname61282 жыл бұрын
Hey Parker I 2nd this proposition!
@ScramTek2 жыл бұрын
@@itdoesntmatterwhatyourname6128 Thirded
@kylez21412 жыл бұрын
4th that
@AudioEuphoria0802 жыл бұрын
5th it
@sohailasura46102 жыл бұрын
6th it
@mathewyocham21422 жыл бұрын
I like how when people toast their skar equipment its skars fault but when sundown equipment fails they have no problem sayn it was their fault.
@DTW-bx2vy2 жыл бұрын
98% of product failure is simply from user error. The difference is the people that admit to there mistakes. We are all human & have to all learn the do's & don't in car audio because we are all beginners at some point.
@yhprumhsoj2 жыл бұрын
I wouldn't stand up for Skar Audio's business either. Would you stick your neck out for a guy getting bullied when you know he's been a real scumbag in the past?
@itdoesntmatterwhatyourname61282 жыл бұрын
@Josh Murphy elaborate on the scumbag...
@ScramTek2 жыл бұрын
@@DTW-bx2vy ‘admit’
@yhprumhsoj2 жыл бұрын
Not going too, if you know you know. It's been long enough now it's not worth writing a book over but they will not get my defense still to this day.
@johnkurpiewski39962 жыл бұрын
Would love to see a box built for that sub . Showcase how the right enclosure makes all the difference.
@itdoesntmatterwhatyourname61282 жыл бұрын
Yes then he could've surpassed that 145db and see this sub truly shine.
@girthquake96552 жыл бұрын
It's all.... About the box.
@ericsimon2562 жыл бұрын
I got a zv5 15 on a wolfram 5k put about 2500 to it hitting 149.6 after new alternator before 146
@lowhertzhighspl2 жыл бұрын
Then he'd need to use custom enclosures for every one of his subs tested to be fair otherwise put an asterisk next to the new Z's score
@rickmoran86442 жыл бұрын
@@girthquake9655 lol you said “box”.
@econley0012 жыл бұрын
Pretty disappointed in YOU Parker. I thought you would learn from the 1st review you made on this subwoofer. Your biggest failure is using that tiny box for this massive subwoofer. Your box needed to be increased by nearly 2x. This is why it kept getting stinky and surprised you didnt blow it AGAIN 😆. You got super lucky they fixed it for free as well. ITS THE. LACK OF SIZE IN YOUR BOX THAT CAUSES THIS SUB TO BLOW AND YOU SHOULD GET A LARGER BOX AND THEN DO A 3RD REVIEW. I enjoy your videos but you did this sub no justice on this review...thank you as always!!!
@pandabear78942 жыл бұрын
Im surprised that Dave had the time to repair your sub. I had him build me four Sundown X8V3 with his DL Designs upgraded coils, one of them blew the tinsel lead within a few months. I tried contacting him several times, using several different methods but never got a response. I ultimately had to pay to get it repaired. I am not knocking Sundown or the subs that Dave builds but I cannot recommend him due to poor customer service and not honoring his warranty. I wish people would take pride in their work and take care of their customers.
@SheikhN-bible-syndrome2 жыл бұрын
He basically warranted the subwoofer only because it's on KZfaq he wouldn't have given him the time of day any other way
@terryburton9712 жыл бұрын
I run Pioneer & PSIs
@beencraftn6612 Жыл бұрын
We have sent several messages Dave and not one reply either so, yea, we will shop elsewhere. People get "too big" and then forget the people who helped get them there. "The customer"
@bobbygetsbanned6049 Жыл бұрын
@@SheikhN-bible-syndrome Yup and who knows how much special care they put into the rebuild because he's a youtuber.
@guerrillawar616 Жыл бұрын
Big facts
@ScramTek2 жыл бұрын
Loving the content dude. It is possible to build one large enclosure with a tuneable port that you can use for all drivers. Give it a 15” cutout and then you only have to make a baffle for each driver that you can attach to the enclosure cutout. If you build a 4-5 cu.ft. enclosure you can then use various measured sizes of wood (attach to interior walls of enclosure with Velcro to ensure no movement) or XPS foam. Whatever you use needs to be solid/closed cell so that a 1 cu.ft. block for example actually acts as a 1 cu.ft. block when compressed by air. You can also use an external port to adjust tuning for each driver. Varying lengths of 3-4” piping. This will allow you to test each driver in the optimum box/port combination. What you’re currently doing is fun to watch, but not a fair representation of what each driver is capable of. Keep up the good work my dude!
@lowhertzhighspl2 жыл бұрын
Exactly my thought! I think it's time he steps up his approach to testing now that he's doing so well.. and to test a Fi sub! (Fi Neo 4.11) like I have in my build on my YT channel.
@Mani-aX2 жыл бұрын
if i were competing, totally worth the money with it holding up to some slight over power and bass burps. but for an daily driver, i think there are other subs in the lower 500.00 range for that. Great video as always!
@ScramTek2 жыл бұрын
What drivers would you recommend in the sub $500 range?
@MannuhFestIt2 жыл бұрын
If it helps, a used Zv5 can go as low as $500. I got 2 and acquired one of them for that price.
@johndough43382 жыл бұрын
@@ScramTek ...just get two skar vxf 12s, and you'll be happy with them versus buying and 1 12 at 900 or 500 bucks. One skar vxf 12 by itself will probably give you a real close comparison even if put next to this sundown zv6 12. The sundown would probably take more power, I'm pretty sure, but if you were looking for a everyday listening banging set up, then the skar vxf 12s will fit the bill, while saving you hundreds of dollars. Another thing, in this video, Parker is using a taramps 8k bass amp, to push that one sundown zv6 12. If he was to swap that 1 sundown zv6 12 out, and replaced it with two skar evl 12s, or 2 vxf 12s in this same set up, in this same vehicle, the two skar 12s will perform way better than that 1 sundown zv6 12. And still cost half the price for that one sundown zv6 12 inch sub. So if you are looking for sound instead of name brands to boast about, there are plenty of things to do, and brands to choose from, to get loud and still save.
@cliffordmcgraw87402 жыл бұрын
@@ScramTek crossfire c7 series subwoofers are totally awesome for less than 500 and im feeding mine double rated daily.
@ScramTek2 жыл бұрын
@@cliffordmcgraw8740 Yeah I’ve heard nothing but good about Crossfire. Only problem is there’s no retailer here in the UK. We have most American brands here but Crossfire is the one I wish was retailed here.
@Kendrickshayesjr2 жыл бұрын
As much as you spend on the high tier subs, I know you can just build a bigger single sub box. Then everyone can really see what these subs can do
@KOSx152 жыл бұрын
When is an Fi sub going to make an appearance on this channel 👀
@mi5audio8312 жыл бұрын
It didn't blow because the box was too small. Smaller boxes actually allow subs to handle power better, bigger boxes make them easier to blow because of less control.
@ceciljones12482 жыл бұрын
It blew because it wasn't fully broken in it takes months for sundown SUBWOOFERS to break in I bought a psi platform 4 and it took almost 6 months to break in those spiders are very stiff on those spl subwoofers
@scottypknowmsayin6918 Жыл бұрын
@@ceciljones1248 how did you like the Platform 4?
@ceciljones1248 Жыл бұрын
@@scottypknowmsayin6918 I still have it takes a lot of abuse ran 8k taramps on it until I could smell the coils been having it for about 4 years now No problems?
@scottypknowmsayin6918 Жыл бұрын
@@ceciljones1248 wicked. That is another one of my potential options. B2 Rampage XM4, DC Level 6 and PSI Platform 4 were my tip choices. These ZV6 seem to do quite well too. Just not as fancy looking. DC and PSI are the most customizable.
@ceciljones1248 Жыл бұрын
@@scottypknowmsayin6918 I have a pair of dd3515 they use to be 12s one of my coils is rubbing I very own dd since 2007? Now you want some serious spl? Dd They are pricey but they are worth every single penny? Now I have a Fi neo 4.11 18 should be here today? I have two 15 fi hc series? For the money fi gets good lows and Sq and hand made and reasonable for your money? Just don't order on black Friday or tax season because it takes awhile to get them? My two 15s took about a week to get? My 18 neodymium was ordered on the 27th of last month and finished Monday? Roughly 3 weeks not bad bro it's your choice and preference Top of the line? DD FI PSI SUNDOWN AND THE REST?
@mohitchand13562 жыл бұрын
Do a free air 5 minutes RMS torture test at 40hz. For a $900 worth of sub, it should survive and backup its reliability.
@SheikhN-bible-syndrome2 жыл бұрын
It's not a Russian sub I don't think it'll handle it LOL
@marijuananirvana2 жыл бұрын
Have you thought about trying a Pride subwoofer? I know they are very expensive.
@elchuy5012 жыл бұрын
I need a playlist of the songs so I can bump 😂😂
@jamesr33642 жыл бұрын
Yeah man if like to see you build a box for this beast!
@crustysleet2 жыл бұрын
Remember to invert the gasket when you invert the sub for a proper seal Parker! 😀
@crustysleet2 жыл бұрын
@nate0 this is true, but I still invert cut one side of the gasket isn't flat but one is 90% of the time . It makes a difference in en losses that have had a few suvs ran thru and stuff
@lowhertzhighspl2 жыл бұрын
That's a good idea. I know my Fi Neo 4.11s gasket is a lot thicker on the top side when not inverted (I have yet to invert bcuz of space restrictions but maybe if I remove the gasket and replace with my ⅛" butyl gasket tape then it'll fit. (Otherwise I'll routering out the top layer of my 3x baffle 😬). I'll post the experience on my YT channels.
@miiiikee_2 жыл бұрын
it's a gnarly sub for sure, but I think your opinion at the end is pretty spot on, the X series is super close to it now with the v3 especially. Good bang for your buck with the X and the Z is more for the extreme end of the spectrum.
@ParkerTheBasshead2 жыл бұрын
Exactly!
@yhprumhsoj2 жыл бұрын
I love these sub reviews but we are missing some huge factors when it comes to results for them. 1 being the relation between the sub and the port. That is why we get results like this that are less than exciting.
@tidobass60482 жыл бұрын
I agree port area and airspace is definitely a factor
@yhprumhsoj2 жыл бұрын
@@tidobass6048 this is a great example of what to expect when upgrading subwoofers and what to expect as far as gains. If you throw money down on a woofer like this your probably going to be throwing money down on a new enclosure as well.
@snauspockets99242 жыл бұрын
Each sub has specific recommendations for Port size and cubic ft of airspace. If you aren't using those then it's not going to sound as good as it can.
@yhprumhsoj2 жыл бұрын
@@snauspockets9924 right, my point exactly. And a subwoofer of this caliber is going to really expose that..
@ScramTek2 жыл бұрын
Almost all these reviews aren’t that useful apart from visual enjoyment. Using the same enclosure for every driver means that some are going to perform well and others won’t. I get that Parker buys a lot of the drivers he reviews and that building an enclosure for every one gets pricey. But I can’t understand why manufacturers will provide one of their drivers but not an enclosure with it. It’s not that much additional expense for them just to ensure that their product performs as well as they want it to. This Zv6 should be getting 150+ dB. He’s got enough power on tap. It’s being held back by the wrong box/port combo
@kevinAuman12 жыл бұрын
Dave Lieb is the man!!! One of if not thee best sub builder there is, I own a pair of Dave Lieb Designs upgraded Sundown X12's and they're absolutely insane! I broke my sunroof on my Lincoln mkx on only 3k with the two 12's them things are violent 👊💪🔊🔊🔊
@ParkerTheBasshead2 жыл бұрын
Yes he is incredible!! Very stoked I got to meet him
@blitz17352 жыл бұрын
I’d love to meet this dude one day. He said the sundown manufacture place was close to him and it’s about 30 minutes from me I’ve been there aswell.
@steveharley20212 жыл бұрын
No joke about working with such a heavy sub...my DB-412 weight 95lbs each....about crushed my finger tips a couple times...and just getting them in my truck was tough..let alone pulling them in and out while messing around with my setup
@McRemmyBaby2 жыл бұрын
Lmao
@erikybarra18412 жыл бұрын
It sounds like you need to build and improve your upper body and core strengh, lmao! Nah, just joking bro.
@McRemmyBaby2 жыл бұрын
@@erikybarra1841 Donut POWER
@keatondavis6382 жыл бұрын
Can you review a deaf bonce 3512 and compare it to a 3012r and a xv3
@elawood5382 жыл бұрын
I'd buzz if parker actually got a sundown sponsorship. they are the best 12 inch subs for sure. "that ive heard and felt to date"
@akjohnny5997 Жыл бұрын
better he's independent, at least i hope he is
@candelarioornelas62912 жыл бұрын
Hey Parker, really interested in hearing the 12" Onyx from Resilient Sounds. Every thought about testing one of these?
@jakeh41062 жыл бұрын
Yeah we need some resilient sounds on the channel
@BenaresDarkness2 жыл бұрын
@CUJO & FRIENDS I miss my resilient sounds team 15 that was a monster sub I thought it was a 12 because the motor is so dam big
@itdoesntmatterwhatyourname61282 жыл бұрын
@Quetzalcoatl Toltec Sun God what happened to your RS team sub?
@BenaresDarkness2 жыл бұрын
@@itdoesntmatterwhatyourname6128 Not long after I bought it I had to sell it to buy a new TV
@colinshrom37042 жыл бұрын
Can you please start including the qts numbers they are very important and I feel it’s a determining factor when choosing subs
@HH-kw5sr2 жыл бұрын
Saw the thumbnail and thought it was Banjo from Flair’s KZfaq channel
@filibertofonseca80832 жыл бұрын
Great example of when a guy says all you have to do is invert the subwoofer, give it more airspace in its enclosure and it will be louder. Inverting is not always the answer
@RomaVilla2 жыл бұрын
That sub definitely has alot of potential, especially with the right enclosure. Maybe even close to a 150 db...
@itdoesntmatterwhatyourname61282 жыл бұрын
Parker, great content! You were really pushing that sub! What's the chances of you doing a video similar to this on the nightshade v5?? Have you given testing that sub out any thought?
@annihilationindustries1990 Жыл бұрын
So you think that box was too small and when u blew the dc audio level 5 the box was too big ? I really think your frying the subs with your Brazilian amp u got there ?
@skywalkerallday49532 жыл бұрын
Awesome review man, had my headphones on and could feel the bass from that zv6 🎧😎
@tonivalen6187 Жыл бұрын
Parker let's trie out the 20.000 rms taramp amplifier with 4-15"d1 punishers
@easylooker2 жыл бұрын
What you think about the sound quality of this sub? Jonathon Price said in a video that some people compete in sound quality with these subs which I find hard to believe as I never seen it. But would be nice to have a big sub that does sound really good and accurate instead of sounding sloppy like most all the subs do.
@09NXN062 жыл бұрын
Agree!!
@halcyon70052 жыл бұрын
There's a hifi associate of Sundown called Stereo Integrity. I believe they use the same motors but a less stiff suspension to lower the fs. They seem to recommend going sealed with these. Seems they have a big following among DIY audiophiles. You may want to check them out. Though I bet the ZV6 sounds great as is.
@markwentz83322 жыл бұрын
Damn i gotta get the box for mine built! Thanks for posting these motivational video's for me Parker! Two SAZ-1500 anniversary editions should get it moving in my Ranger
@donjaun5402 жыл бұрын
Can you imagine 6 of those Sun downs replacing the six in your big box? Wow. Good video Parker. Where was bass head kitty?? Lol
@db2loud2 жыл бұрын
I totally agree with you I've been saying it for years there's no reason for those subs to be at that price when everybody else is making subs a fraction of the price and gives you the same results
@brianrich78282 жыл бұрын
We’ve told Parker to use boxes made for the subs he tests. People have offered to build boxes for him for free. Instead he puts them in boxes not made for them and the result is meh.
@db2loud2 жыл бұрын
I'm sure all the subs that he has tested probably could have done better in a box built for them but all the subs were tested in the same box and there were quite a few that did better numbers at a much reasonable price range
@courden12 жыл бұрын
@@db2loud generally because this lower priced subs in that enclosure would be closer to spec so it’s almost in the optimal enclosure/power. With this sub it’s sooo much bigger so it displaces soo much more airspace & needs more of box to get it to spec, as well as a bigger port for the airflow this sub can produce. That’s why cheaper subs seem better because their almost in the perfect circumstances.
@wisco-lad2 ай бұрын
Wow, so the skars you tested did the same for a 1/4 of the price? A single evl 12 can get 144.4 for $200
@marcorodriguez77482 жыл бұрын
Can you review something off Fi?
@thomashood85492 жыл бұрын
I just have a 10" sundown x v2 in a high output enclosures built by Dave Marin. I'm using a sundown sia 3500. I'm good with that 😀🇺🇸
@girthquake96552 жыл бұрын
Your box is too small... Your port area is wayyyyy to small and the tuning needs to be lower. Build a new box for it to watch it shine Parker.
@MichaelJohnson-je2vo2 жыл бұрын
Put it in the right box and that tip about getting into a wreck is priceless
@steventrojanowski35952 жыл бұрын
Good cinematography… your getting better and better at this stuff, love your vids and review knowledge
@NathanOakley19802 жыл бұрын
Does it rise like a mofo? As I understand it, having a massive motor results in more rise?!
@NathanOakley19802 жыл бұрын
I saw 1.2 ….. Wired at 0.5 ohm, that’s substantial impedance rise (box rise) 😝
@fusiondensity32872 жыл бұрын
It will rise like the Chicago skyline from 60 miles away
@bigkarai2 жыл бұрын
Yo Parker bro you should do a 18inch review for the one time man.
@ParkerTheBasshead2 жыл бұрын
Yep videos ago was DS18! I plan to do more soon
@RY-xh5hm2 жыл бұрын
@@ParkerTheBasshead He means a 18 inch sub
@bigkarai2 жыл бұрын
@@ParkerTheBasshead 18 inch sub
@BeatsByThePound2 жыл бұрын
The same box he blew it in lol nice!
@nandocastillo83662 жыл бұрын
I just bought one but what is all that rattling sound?sub,box,suv,or a little of each? I personally think you need a bigger box so I’m getting a 2.5 cubic ft box built after displacement.
@mrreggiej852 жыл бұрын
One day, when my electrical is up to par lol. Love the intro to this video!
@crankshaftsfuels64452 жыл бұрын
Literally felt the intro in my soul
@wizardindustriesusa2 жыл бұрын
This sub deserves one of our Wizard Industries EBS115 enclosures; a night and day difference!!
@MrJunkman19822 жыл бұрын
Hey Mr. Parker....I love the sundown subs, currently I'm running a 12' Sundown Xv3 reconed with the ZV6 Spider & ZV6 8 Layer Coil so its like 85%-90% a ZV6...These subs like around 2.75 cubic feet minus port area, that's what I have mine at and mines tuned to 33hz, so I would build a whole different box for this subwoofer, and do another review, that way it can show everyone how much the right box for this type of subwoofer will make it come alive!!
@justinjones53022 жыл бұрын
Forreal. From what i see right here id tell people save the extra money and get the xv3.
@ScramTek2 жыл бұрын
@@justinjones5302 The Z series is more expensive than the X series.
@JustinDutchmaster Жыл бұрын
i had the xv3s and switched to the xv5 and the xv3s ain’t shit lol
@daviddaupert1693 Жыл бұрын
Currently I have the xv3 15 and was wondering about that same upgrade you have… how does it sound compared to the stock xv3?
@MrJunkman1982 Жыл бұрын
@@daviddaupert1693 It sounds the same, Just handles more power now for longer and doesn't bottom out, or unload as easy, it changed my peak fs from 34hz to 33hz
@madrx22 жыл бұрын
I'd love to see this put up against the Sundown N/s 12
@matthewsinn59602 жыл бұрын
I've only seen one of these once in person. One beautiful subwoofer and massive!
@gabrielkatzenmeier26552 жыл бұрын
Loving the skits. They definitely are always fun to see.
@ParkerTheBasshead2 жыл бұрын
Thank you!!
@itdoesntmatterwhatyourname61282 жыл бұрын
I agree that skar/Sundown skit was gold!
@justinishaq75552 жыл бұрын
I hit 145.5 at 59 hz with my single 12 zv6 on a salt 4 in a 6th order
@brandonwalker82552 жыл бұрын
Apparently no one heard these subs in action before in the right enclosure but I’m here to tell you I’ve heard them and they get down!!
@Asap_joser8 ай бұрын
Skar is for the people. They understand that not everyone has bank
@denniszuccolotto26662 жыл бұрын
The boy JP was a friend of mine til I caught him in my car trying to steal my Alpine
@seanjulian80132 жыл бұрын
Let's see this vs the Deaf Bonce 3512R!!!
@fading_starz40702 жыл бұрын
I was waiting for that Subwoofer to blow again 😂🤣😂
@CL-yp1bs2 жыл бұрын
This sub is for hitting lows more than getting as loud as possible
@recon4402 жыл бұрын
All these large-roll subs are pigs with those long coils and heavy surrounds... 400g Mms. Moral of the story, if you actually intent to play music (targeting 35Hz+) you're better off with a conventional surround with less moving mass like a DC XL SPL or a Sundown U. With correct box loading there is no need for 40mm of xmax for bass extension as the f3 is dictated by motor force (qts) and volume. All these large-stroke subs are mainly good for
@austinfrancis9723 Жыл бұрын
I’m about 20 min from Sundown HQ lol we must stay close
@snauspockets99242 жыл бұрын
My 15in Skar VXF in a Gately 3.5 box sounds so much better though...you know, because it's in a Gately 3.5 box that matches the box size and port size recommendation from Skar. Port size and cubic ft...you gotta use the right box for each sub. Get the recommendation for thos from the sub manufacturer. Too many guys just plopping sub after sub in the same box thinking the sub size is all that matters. I also EQ with a Mini DSP 2x4HD. Learned about that with my HT subs. Even so...900 bucks no thanks.
@spuds76772 жыл бұрын
My team mate has a pair of Resilient Sounds Platinum 12s running a 150.1 at the headrest on 2443 watts at 34Hz in the trunk. They sound good and take some abuse. RS FTW
@mikew6135 Жыл бұрын
Who would have thought that reducing the volume of the huge box would help. Someone tell Parker that box displace matters. A smaller box will help with power handling too Parker. It's physics bother. Too large of a box is basically like free air providing no support for the subs suspension
@MannuhFestIt2 жыл бұрын
Coming soon: Parker doing 6 Zv6 12s 😂
@ParkerTheBasshead2 жыл бұрын
That would ruin me financial 😂😂😂
@MannuhFestIt2 жыл бұрын
@@ParkerTheBasshead it’s time we get you that KZfaq money then 😂
@PBasschannel2 жыл бұрын
The box what you using for testing is optimised for Sundown X12 V2, then of course it have the biggest chance that it will be the loudest - and obivously in your case it was up to date. I'm not saying that it is wrong, just not as accurate SPL results as it could be, because the subs you tested, had not equal chances, because of a box what is not optimal for them - maybe for some close, but not optimal. I mean with this, in my opinion 1 of DeafBonce or American Bass, or Skar sub maybe would outperform the X12 V2 in a proper box made for them, but maybe not... I think this Z easily will outperform the X V2 in a box optimised for it, so yeah, I would like to see it in a proper box. And also an idea: custom boxes made for your best subs. My case: I have a Gladen RS-X 6.5 sub, I made a custom ported box optimised for it's TS parameters from the specs sheet like almost everybody doing when designing a custom box for a sub with not the manufacturer's recommended box specs. I found out that a Sundown X6.5 have similar shaped transfer function graph curve in any box like that Gladen sub, even their peaks are at the same freq in any box in a same listening enviroment, so I compared them with simulations: I simulated the X6.5 in the Gladen's box, and the Gladen was louder by few tenths of dB at the peak + up to 3-3.5 dB off from the peak on it's RMS power (250 W) like the X6.5 on it's RMS power (300 W), but the X6.5 not reached it's xmax, the Gladen just touched it's xmax, because for X6.5 is acceptable a bigger net volume box. After this I designed a custom box for the X-6.5, the X-6.5's peak was louder like the Gladen's in the Gladen's box, and also simulated in the X6.5 box both drivers, had the same transfer function differences like I wrote down just before on their RMS powers. But Gladen overpassed it's Xmax, so, I needed reduce the power for it in simulations, and after that obivously X6.5 became much louder like the Gladen at the peak, even Gladen was quieter at the peak like in it's box, but still a tiny bit louder off from the peak like the X6.5, just now I can't prove this with real tests, because Sundown's stuff is 1 - hardly avialable in my country, or 2 - it is way too expensive mainly because of shipping payments and similar things... So, in any means, boxes optimised for the given drivers giving always the best results like for me: Gladen outperforms X6.5 in a box made for Gladen, because the Gladen box is a bit small for the X6.5, and X6.5 outperforms the Gladen in a box optimised for X6.5, because the X6.5 box is too big for Gladen, and even X6.5 outperforms the Gladen at the peak freq when both are simulated in their boxes = both subs have very similar sounding, Sundown is somewhat louder, but needs a bigger space, Gladen is somewhat more musical/daily, and needs a smaller place...maybe there's something similar reason why all (mainly "flaghip") subs you tested were quieter like the X12 V2 - maybe for some of them is a need for a bigger box because it's not using the driver's max output potential, or some of them is a need for a smaller box because the drivers starting to have bigger excursion at 70 percent of Bl on smaller power like in an optimal box... Or let's say even if the X12 V2 is truely the loudest, but I think the order from 2nd place downwards would be different for sure.
@TheTherealdarkhorse Жыл бұрын
That thing is choking. Chaffing like crazy..Build a damn box man!
@annihilationindustries1990 Жыл бұрын
its just amazing that you have had problems with two of the most expensive subwoofers
@a713a2 жыл бұрын
I have a x12 v3 on sia 3500 always wonder if I would gain much by switching to a zv6
@kevinpersaud42408 ай бұрын
Hey bro how’s the sia 3500 keeping up I wanted to put one on a sundown audio u12
@mattadams79222 жыл бұрын
Buddy you need twice the box you got for that monster and that sub is a 6th order bandpass monster. It will go hard in a 4th order too but 6th order will make it go bonkers. That 1 sub is a 150 db all day sub in that truck with that amp
@therandomman66477 ай бұрын
I want to see Sacrilegium 1 by Zeal & Ardor on one of those! It would be pretty brutal
@steveharley20212 жыл бұрын
It's more expensive than my Deaf Bonce Apocolypse DB-SA412 that I bought on clearance for $750 each...probably could have got something crazy for that price at Robotunderground if I had been willing to wait but at least it made me step up my electrical for the major power I needed to run the things...my wife says I'm out of control with my car audio addiction....she just doesn't understand
@charliefrancis64382 жыл бұрын
I agree, with you about both things, he could probably get 3 super subs from robotunderground but he’s reviewing popular equipment regardless of price , and the wife also believes I am insane ha ha ho ho he he
@crustysleet2 жыл бұрын
I just can't get behind chandler at RU, he says some of the most off the wall things. Box rise is a myth just turn the gain up... he supports pedophilia too 🤢
@itdoesntmatterwhatyourname61282 жыл бұрын
@Dage The Evil are you ok? Do you need someone to get you medical help?
@crustysleet2 жыл бұрын
For not agreeing with someone who supports child molesters? Sounds like you need the help if you are into that kind of stuff as well.
@salvatorehayes27532 жыл бұрын
The Qts Was .39. Usually Subs Under .40 Don't Need A Whole Lot Of Volume For Thier Enclosure. Not Sure If It Correlates With Why Sub Was Louder With Motor In Box. What Kinda Shows The Box Isn't Ideal Is Your Impedance Rise. It's Only Going From .5 To 2.2Ish. My Subs Rise From .5 To 5.8 Ohms A Little Past Box Tuning Hz. Alot Of SPL Guys Rise Even Higher. Oh And Was That Noise When You We're Playing Free Air Just Air Rushing By The Enclosure Opening Or Was That Suspension Creaking/Hissing?
@derkchurk58792 жыл бұрын
They need to build them better for 900 bucks, you should be able to push them that hard on clean power... What's the point of all that Xmax if you can't push it to the point where you can use all of it without it gettin stinky, It would be cool if you could review the em audio 3k and 5k or even some of the psi platform 5 and 4 with the upgraded options.. I love sundown and what they do, but I think those brands above offer a better value, even the Savard high output subwoofers like the ho12. Which is like 450 but handles 2k every day.
@InLoveWithBass19905 ай бұрын
Hey parker, if you still have this zv6, maybe you could do the free air 5 minute test.
@hodakine Жыл бұрын
Hey Jacob, great vids, I’m thinking about getting x4 sundowns or db’s what do u recommend
@rovidbouski40222 жыл бұрын
Love the videos bro! In your opinion, having tested a ton of subs, what 12" woofer is the loudest under $400?
@biggzaebeats9582 Жыл бұрын
Bro the ZVX Skars hands down
@elawood5382 жыл бұрын
yeeeeh man Buzzin bass head time. whoooooooooooo!
@haroldwilliams82422 жыл бұрын
Nice! I'm about to play with my zv5s soon. Beast subs.
@Alpate_audio2 жыл бұрын
I try not to feed into the negativity but why does everyone hate Skar audio so much? 🤔
@breedam2 жыл бұрын
They are salty because they overpayed.
@jefferycarter17912 жыл бұрын
Would you recommend the fi Team v3 or the Zv6 Sundown, I want an honest answer please...
@ParkerTheBasshead2 жыл бұрын
I haven’t had an Fi before so I can’t really say! I do know the Fi stuff if pretty nice tho
@MayzDayz0072 жыл бұрын
Keepin coming, next 18" but, not to soon! Make us wait ✋️ 😂😂😉
@MayzDayz0072 жыл бұрын
W7AE3... 😲😲😲
@mikew6135 Жыл бұрын
I thought the golden rule is clean power. I saw numerous times where your amp clipped. What gives Parker? Do as I say not as I do?
@iakopklein8218 Жыл бұрын
i like that sub moves when you played coca cola
@jacobmcentire8790 Жыл бұрын
Why do most subwoofers have a sensitivity rating in the 80’s ? Isn’t a sensitivity rating in the 80’s pretty loud or is it quiet for a subwoofer ?
@buildingnumberseven Жыл бұрын
6:50 Mi Casa FTW!!!!
@elijahmaggio28322 жыл бұрын
Need a a better 12” box my man! Something meant for these monster 12” subs!
@BlueCollarBastard19872 жыл бұрын
Parker, I watch all of your videos & I notice you don't do any reviews on any Resilient Sounds Subwoofers. I would love to see some testing on them as well as some head to heads between Sundown & Resilient Sounds subwoofers. Just an idea. I'm about to upgrade my single 12 to a single 15" & I'm torn between Sundown, Resilient sounds, & Fi. I love all 3. 😂🤷♂ Nice video tho. Keep the content comin bro.
@engineer4life90 Жыл бұрын
Go with the sundown son. No pun
@matthewhetes9965 Жыл бұрын
@@engineer4life90go with the sundown so you can spend your life savings + kids college fund on just the sub..... no thanks
@ragincajun59572 жыл бұрын
You are lacking on port area for that sub, what is the overall dimensions for that enclosure you put it in? Not all 2.5 cubic foot enclosures have the same external or internal dimensions.
@WifeBTR1232 жыл бұрын
That intro was great. Had me laughing.
@rettapounds2 жыл бұрын
I have a couple of Ampere Audio Encore 12” subs. You should get one of those n do a review. Curious to see what they can handle.
@kenneththompson98892 жыл бұрын
Sundown Monster Lows!!!!!🦺👍
@theinsaneunknown2 жыл бұрын
I've been running a Zv5 15" as a daily for about 18 months. In a 4.25 box tuned to 33hz on a Synergy 3.1. Sub still sounds great, just not the best sound quality as the box is pretty peaky.
@vlad18892 жыл бұрын
4.25 box tuned to 33 hertz is too peaky? Something doesn't add up should be great low SQ.
@theinsaneunknown2 жыл бұрын
@@vlad1889 I should have said sloppy, not peaky. But I'm running at .5 so that doesn't help the sq.
@bradmeek2 жыл бұрын
You've really gotta try a DD AUDIO sub dude
@mattsnider5904 Жыл бұрын
How much wattage did it peak at for 145.3 score? Seeing if it's fair comparison to that EM sub you put 11 thousands watts. Oh you said 5000 watts. Could it handle more than that?
@nathanwhite89312 жыл бұрын
Would you recommend 2 sundown sa v2 10s. I’m looking at those or resilient sounds gold 10 or b2 riot 10s. Which one would you recommend
@LSTeg19942 жыл бұрын
Hey Parker, from your experience what are the “MUST HAVES” with DIY systems? As in the gadgets you use to measure power, hz, dB, etc. I installed my 1st system, basically half assed tuning and would like to get it proper before doing more. Thanks!
@StrongBodySecrets82 жыл бұрын
How it sounds is all personal preference, I recommend you buy a voltage meter to make sure your able to monitor everything safely whenever listening
@quinton3372 жыл бұрын
Any thoughts on doing amp reviews to see if one pushes harder than another one like Korean vs Brazilian
@undercut34947 ай бұрын
Love your show bro..can you stick with the low rent subs..most of us can't afford to get $900 subs....😮😮keep on booooming baby..