Oh that's so nice! I literally will keep it in my desk and use it as a paperweight. 😀

Thank you! Lol I never heard of an Allen key bit - I've only seen them in their other forms. Can't believe I didn't realize that. And now the whole internet can come laugh at me any time they want to!!

It's not Pozidriv, it's Phillips. The sides of the bit are angled, not straight and the star shaped middle section is missing. I wish it was Pozidriv, though. PZ2 is the most common cross shaped screw here in Germany.

Lol Thank you so much!! You know, the longer I have it, the happier? I am that I have it, but to be honest, I think I paid too much.

Edward, that's a great idea! Wera seems like a great brand; my husband has some small kit they make that he uses a lot. Lol drilling holes with a ratchet makes me think of my dad's crank drill! He still uses that thing!

I passed on the Champ and went with the Handyman. In my opinion it has a complete tool set without the fluff and extra weight and width! I’m glad for it too. It’s amazing how much difference there is in the size for the couple of tools I sacrificed!

@@thevineclimber no he doesn’t! Lol! Just joking

Oh wow what a good comment!!!! I saw a picture of the model with a lighter and immediately wanted one! Lol Thanks for sharing this comment here! :)

Lol thank you! I guess the Allen wrench should have been obvious, but I'm used to seeing them in other shapes... as used in putting together furniture mostly!!

Interesting... that is one of the questions I collected for my upcoming interview/ extreme long-term review - how much torque can it withstand. I don't seem to do many things that involve screws other than the usual - the exception is sometimes toys that have tiny screws. That's a good point - most of the likely "to be discontinued" tools have counterparts that might be better. Exceptions include the tinker small, tourist, executive, and maybe the cybertools that are leaving...

YOU might get discontinued!

I love mine, too... maybe I should make it a home in the kitchen so it can leave the drawer. I also always think that bigger is better!!

@@thevineclimber yes, it's a great home tool.

Thomas, you are so right! I may try carrying this again for a while... love that pruner blade...

Oh, cool story! It's living out its purpose! 🪑

It's great if work at a restaurant and need to tighten hex screws on children's highchairs, at least wooden ones.

That's great! I actually used multiple bits to take apart a vacuum cleaner the other week. :)

Thanks for coming by! Yeah, baby, Swiss champ all the way! But still... I do love this knife...

Oh my gosh you finally found the real name of the pharmaceutical spatula! It's a muffin tin loosened! Yes, the Allen wrench... I feel like an idiot for that one. I just had never seen one that was not an L. Or I probably had, countless times, and didn't pay attention. I adore that pruner blade - it's almost enough to make me carry the XLT, I love my Harvester, too. Yes, the Explorer has everything except my beloved saw. Well, ok, no, I like the pliers for picking up gross things. And the fish hook disgorger for poking gross things. And a file for my nails... Wouldn't it be cool to see videos talking about specialty multitools for different jobs? Like, a Halligan for firefighters...

Thanks Hitch! So maybe they can't replace the small blade, but I bet a lot of people would be more than happy to have that blade player in their knives! If i had a picknicker I would just be mad it was to valuable to use. Yeah, I'm going to make the XLT a slightly used museum piece, I guess. Until it gets pulled into service in a dramatic turn of events, just in time to save the day! Thanks for watching and chatting. ;)

Awesome; thank you!!!

This is really great! I like that you can get so many different bits for this driver, then, including larger sizes of Phillips. I really laughed at the Parmesean and Playdough!

Gus! Thanks so much for stopping by! 😀 (Check out Gadget Gus' lovely-as-always video here: kzfaq.info/get/bejne/hNlgbM1ystOccX0.html. ) Gus, I've seen your video on this knife a few times, actually, and I can never tell - how does the little cut-out part of the blade help you strip wire? Your video is literally the only time I've seen someone use the blade at all!

I know... me too... but it is very appealing to me to be able to have everything... but everything is not practical. Thank you for watching and commenting!

@@thevineclimber pleasure ma'am

😊

Yeah, this one is a bit beefy!!

What a beautiful collection of larger SAKs (and a Swiss Tool)! I bet the transparent blue Champ is lovely. 💠

Yes, it looks very cute, I love both red and blue in transparent :-) Best wishes from Germany.. Michael...

I mean, I didn't really mind carrying it on my belt... still working on making the holster work, though, so I can't totally recommend it, either. And not for girl pockets in any way, shape, or form! (As a note - Marcel wrote his post when the title was, "Should you save $200 and get a Swiss champ?")

YOU’RE far too heavy! 😂

@@dionst.michael1482 I don't think so

Oh very interesting! I really had not considered that. Wow, I actually do feel a lot better about that! Thanks! 😃 😊

I can see you carrying before I can see me carrying it! There you are! And you’re carrying it! No joke! I can picture it now!

Yes. I forgot to mention that 1 of the functions of it is body building!

@@thevineclimber lol 😂

@@thevineclimber I did that Res-Q-Rench review..😀

Sweet! People are going to love that so much! It's so compact and it does so much! Total specialty multitool. Check out the video here: kzfaq.info/get/bejne/hrOTbNV3yJibqok.html Thanks so much for the incredible shoutout!!

@@thevineclimber Your welcome! Thanks for the great content!

That's so nice; thanks! Yes, I often think that the Huntsman has everything I use most of the time, or the explorer if I don't need the saw. Strangely, I would need to figure out how to carry them on my belt, because they wouldn't stay in the leather holster I use for the champ! Yes, the keychain models are very nice. I have the Rambler and the minichamp- I love the tiny Phillips! I wish the Champ had a tiny Philips like that. I have actually used the pharmaceutical spatula on the mini champ as a cuticle pusher, and it works great! Thanks for the nice note; very interesting thoughts.

​@@thevineclimber Victorinox renamed the pharmaceutical spatula to the cuticle pusher as I recall. That might be why my wife has that model, but I've never used it for that. The small combo tool with the small phillips is surprisingly useful! I like using the P7 style suspension clips (I use the KeySmart ones) to carry the 91mm models in my pocket. (The Compact is what I carry).​ The models you mentioned may be a bit large to pocket carry that way though. Just an option to consider. however.

I've thought of that! Except for my cargo pants, the pockets just aren't that great for carrying anything - women's clothes are often form- fitting to some degree, and even a 2 layer SAK is going to be uncomfortable. I really like the suspension clip idea; the KZfaqr who carries the XLT suspends it from his belt, but suspending it from the pocket would work for things of a more reasonable size. I have a long skirt with pockets, and I'd love to carry the SAK in those pockets, but the material is too delicate. :(

@@thevineclimber Yeah, my wife has the same complaint about pockets on women's clothing. Guess I'm lucky that my pockets can hold my stuff!

Victorinox has a huge market in us female-folk, but there are some big hurdles...

Aah, yes, and it has the best layer, those blades! But oh my gosh is that expensive...

Yes! And hopefully we will have an interview with an extremely long-trem Cybertool user up next weekend!

Maybe that's why they are getting rid of the XLT, so that they can replace it with your XLT lite!

@@thevineclimber fingers crossed!

@@thevineclimber would buy a xlt with a lite added!

@@thevineclimber That’s exactly what they are going to do! Lol! It’s called the Abhinay Tool!

The Led addon into the XLT I think is not a good idea. I have used it in the Huntsman Lite, it light is weak and is difficult to get the batteries. The water is another danger for that led. The philips screwdriver is better in front of the magnify glass.

Don't forget the fish scaler! 😉 LOL Yeah, I feel like a bit of a doofus for not realizing that was an allen wrench. I should make an entire video devoted to what you can do with that particular size! Lol I am slowly working my way around the edges of a Swiss champ review. Which I think is going to make you want to run right out and buy one! At MSRP!

@@thevineclimber Specifically, the hex bit is a 4mm or a 5/32 inch bit. It fits several pieces of equipment in my shop. McMaster Carr sells a number of hex/allen bits that fit the Cybertool driver. Sadly, they don't have the spring loaded ball lock to retain the bit in the tool.

Thanks, George! I think there is a company that sells some double- embed bits that will retain... Wiha maybe? I saw it on one video and did not realize how rare the information was.

@@thevineclimber Thanks Anne, I'll search for them.

I did!! Lol oh yes I did. Oh I'm a Swiss Champ girl!! I hate not having it with me, because it's useful for everything. I probably use it 5 times a day. Scissors and small blade get the most use, saw when I'm stacking wood or using the fireplace, but I use the drivers at unexpected times. The pliers and hook disgorger are good for gross things - like that little lump of coagulated hand lotion or soap that develops at the end of the pump. Magnifying glass to help with things I can't quite see - which is an increasing number! File mostly for my nails - but it works on nutmeg, too. Bottle opener, of course. Honestly never needed the chisel, and I had a bad experience with the fine flathead driver. Hook for one pair of boot laces, or as a cell phone stand.

@VineClimber Wowww! I'm happy to read about that! I don't know how times use my Swisschamp in daily activities. Surely, the mostly SAK I use: a SD Alox I normally carried in the cell phone case... for minimal tasks, obviously.

Thank you! I would love a Swiss army fork! 🍴 That's a great idea!

@@thevineclimber There is one on my Cheese Master which I only use for eating.

I want a Cheesemaster!! Thank you!!

@@thevineclimber It's great for picnics or for when you pack a lunch :-)

I pack a lunch every day... and work at a 'no knives" establishment. But I eat as many picnics as possible!!

Lol good point. I think I saw that there is another brand of bits that works in there... I'll look into it. My life is not interesting enough to involve torx bits most of the time. " I'm living' a flathead kind of life" - sounds like a great country song!

@vineclimber …🤣🤠🎼 … it’s true… unless it’s the torx bits on scale screws those pesky suckers tend to only strut on the scene when I rent BMW bikes. I thought of you today when I used my midnight manager phillips to tighten the screws for an about to fall off doorknob at a cafe bathroom this morning… I kinda wished I had my cadet to try out the wee flathead on the can opener. In any case, if you were there we could have high-fived ✋ over my accomplishment… instead I had to try and convince my mom to be impressed. 😆

ROFL!!!!

That's so funny!I just dropped the regular Swiss champ yesterday while I had no shoes on and I jumped to get out of the way!

I love that! What a cool idea. It would be just enough to get stuff done but really focus on the blade layers. Thanks for the awesome idea! I'm sorry it has taken me so long to get back to you. I'm pretty far behind on my messages!!

Yes. Some of them were fine but it really isn't as comfortable as the champ. And some of them really didn't work well in tight spots!

Oh, dude, if I were to mod this I would keep only the extra blades. I frickin' LOVE that layer!! And maybe the coffee-stirrer!! I just have no need for the kick ass drivers... :( I need to get a cooler life to meet the needs of my gear.

@@thevineclimber LoL I saw some "titanium" scales on Aliexpress for 91mm SAKs that have barrel pivots + screws. Might be worth your while if you can dremel off the brass pivots on that monsters SAK. Happy friday!

I am SO not up for that. I need a crummy old broken one to work on. I actually think I have one...

Oh that is a great EDC story! I am very interested in how people come to decide what they want everyday. And of course, once you have a favorite, it is easy to just pick that every day. I like that combination of the Compact and the Squirt! Interesting, because they are both small. For me, I feel a little uncomfortable if I don't have my Swiss champ, and on many days when I tell myself I will carry something else, I tuck the Swiss Champ into my purse anyway!

@@thevineclimber I am women. I am not mechanic. In my city EDC dont need many wrenches, screwdrivers or saw. Usually, I dont need file, too. The blade, corkscrew and openers of Compact is best EDC tool set for me. And Leatherman Squirt Ps4 pliers is aditional everydau companion for Compact. I got my Squirt about a month ago. Pliers yesterday has used first time, Squirts scissors and the Philips screwdriver also has used. And the Squirt's small blade has used very often.

It's a great use for the spatula! Thank you!I get a surprising amount of use out of the fish scaler by using it as a "poking" tool. I have to admit I'm a little surprised by your use of the Mini champ! It does offer an easier to use pen. It also has the small screwdriver which is good for recessed little Phillips screws like are on toys and some elections. Oh and I guess you've pointed out some uses of the spatula on there as well! Nice!

@@thevineclimber the mini is on my keychain, and goes with me when I don't want to carry the big champ. It serves as a great backup, and yes, the pen has been more useful than I thought it would be.

Larry, you may have given me a new favorite EDC. Because, really, I need a better nail file than on the Champ!!!

@@thevineclimber heh heh...happy to be of service ma'am.

Yes! I'm going to have sugar in my coffee this morning to try it out. If you want a paperweight, Amazon US has the XXL for $200 today...

@@thevineclimber If I only had a few extra dollars...

@@georgelewis7154 but it has TWO drivers!!

@@thevineclimber And let's not forget the discontinued XAVT ... Another Monster.😉 I like the electrician and pruner blades. I wish they would include them on some of the smaller knives with cellidor scales. It seems that the large spatula has been included only on some of Victorinox's largest knives.

@georgelewis7154 Well whichever one is the 1 that has the clock is the 1 that would be best for my desk paper weight. 🪨 ⏰️ 🔪

Well, it's a Hide and Drink holster but I had to stretch the leather. Video to come eventually...

That sounds like it's not something someone could mod together, either. Frankenpliers!

Well, if you find a good price on one somewhere, let us know by posting it here!

@@thevineclimber will do. I like it. I kinda wish it ditched the standard can opener and bottle opener in favor of the combotool, Even ditch the inline screwdriver since a cyber bit could replace the philips. It's in a weird posiiton anyway as you said. I also wish it had a nail file on back of the hook. I mean it might as well. I'd like to have a seatbeat cutter or some serrated blade rather than the cocaine spoon. It's ok for prodding and holding things down though. The chisel is also in an awkward position and direction. Another cool to see change that would be nice is if the secret slot was precut out of the scales. I'd like to add modified tweezers. In fact, I'd like to purchase modded tweezers "pointy". If anyone knows where to get them. If you're curious or want some ideas...I load my knives with the Firefly and helix tinder and put glow-in-the-dark tape in various places in the recesses of the back of the blades and around the cyber tool. I also put some clear safety floor grip tape on the handles. Works best if scuffed up the scales with some sandpaper and dampen it then add gorilla glue, I'll send ya photos if ya want. I even modded a Sim Card Pin wand with a glued in magnet and stick it next to the metal saw where it fits perfectly. I store a safety pin in with the bits, A streched out helex tinder under inline with a cut out piece of pink pearl pencil eraser on top of said tinder. I have the toothpick under the cybertool as well for a poking tool. I placed the rod from a fire ant under the saw blade. I used the handle of one of the fireants and attempted to glue in a cut Stanley Precision screwdriver. Just to have the glow in the dark handle. Not sure how well it will hold up. I got a paperclip with a bobby pin under a wide rubber band around the pruning blade just as a way of carrying them. ( I put the mini-screwdriver in with a huntsman which didn't come with a screwdriver. As well as some steel pin that I ordereed as backups.) I connect the knife to a "Paracord Lanyard Metal Hook Durable Survival 550 Fish & Fire Cord Keychain" . Which I also modded and added a 17lb-pull magnet. I did what most do and put some tiny magnets under the canopener and hook as well. This knife in particular pairs very well with the SHARPAL 101N 6-In-1 Pocket Knife Sharpener. I got the belt chain clip for pocket carry. Tempted to add a ball bearing for Felix's bow drill trick.

Oh that's a good idea!! Thank you! I would be afraid it wouldn't come off, though. Do you clean it with some kind of solvent?

It will get clean when you stir your coffee straight after 😂

Oh I've wondered about that! Does it fall out? Does it fall in so you can't get it back?

@@thevineclimber No. But it does shift a little out and in. It doesn't fall out and it has never falling completely in the pinhole. I picked the a length of sewing needle. It seems easier to use the tweezer to pull it out or, have to push it back in a little to clear the corkscrew so, corkscrew can left up and down. Not a big deal. Good piece of mind having the sewing. I like it. I use the Victorinox Mountaineer. I am not sure other about other models.

@@Jeremy-Two Thank you! I may do that. Gotta find a place to keep some thread.

Dude, I love that channel but it makes me feel so inadequate!!

Interesting. That is also an expensive tool! I feel like it's more a specialty item, though. Some people like it better than the Swiss champ, even!! All I can say is, different strokes for different folks.

If someone neads Torx and Allen key they have the right tools... 4mm bit are too weak. I'm also a swisschamp fan. When I cycling for example I need some Allen key. So I have a little pouch with some specialized tools. And the swisschamp 😊

I have the L, as an electronics technician I use all the bits, I was able to help a woman with her electric wheel chair that had a problem, all screws were small Torx this Cyber tool L is a blessing 😊

@colombianguy8194 That is a great use case scenario! Wow. Total blessing. Hm... maybe I should give the XLT another chance......

Lol what a great closing line! ❤️ the Swiss Champ!! I'm glad I have the XLT but I think I really just want a printer blade on my Swiss Champ. Plus the combo tool from the Rambler/Manager. I'm glad you got a good deal. I did not, and that makes me want to use it even less. I think replaceability means something in a tool you love. 🤔 yeah, it's the big baby in my collection now!!

@@thevineclimber Although the XLT is out (or nearly out) of production, they are covered by Lifetime guarantees. Even where the guarantee is not applicable for some reason, Victorinox should be able to repair your knife for a fee. Hopefully this knowledge will help you use your SAK to its full potential.

@@thevineclimber Also, sorry to sound stupid, but. . .what is a "printer blade"?

Ack!! My phone has a mind of its own. Pruner. :(

Thank you, Paul! Maybe I would not even have to send it to Switzerland.

The tool is based really for computer screws not for hard screws? I believe NASA issue the cybertool 34 to the Astronauts! I live in UK . The xlt is so expensive here in the UK a bout £300 ! That's ludicrous? You need to buy the xvat it's twice the size of xlt?

Yes I think you are right about being intended for computer and electronics screws - I don't usually do much with that, but if I do I'm helping my husband with something, and he has his tools.

Thanks!

I'll have to get 2!! 🔪 🗡

Oh that's cool! Lol can you imagine someone digging around in their pocket for their Swiss army knife in the clean compounding room in a pharmacy?! 🤣 Thanks for the nice note! Anne

Hi Steve! Yeah, going from 8 to 11 layers is quite a difference... If there were any stores that sold SAKs around me (more than the bare minimum) I would probably not have bought a couple that I bought. It also would be nice to get an in- person look at that yellow. I've started to hope it is sunshine highlighter yellow, but who knows?

@@thevineclimber Hi Anne, I am not sure what yellow model you are referring to? Do you mean one of the new 2023 Limited Edition Alox models in Electric Yellow that were officially released on Feb.20th? I am a big Pioneer & Pioneer X fan & will eventually buy the 2023 Pioneer X model but not the 58mm Alox Classic SD nor the 130mm Alox Hunter.

I do mean that one - got confused with so many conversations at once. I ALSO am interested in this S18: www.swiss-knife.com/en/victorinox-delemont-collection-evogrip-s18.html. I saw another female KZfaqr that has one, so now I want it, too. But that's a different discussion. If there were a Victorinox store here. I could go see the yellow.

@@thevineclimber IMO the Victorinox S18 with its yellow black handles is well worth buying, it's color is banana / canary yellow and I have 2, one is in my EDC since early 2020 & another I bought when VicSpains video fist came out as it happened to be on sale with a 20% discount at my local Victorinox dealer at the time. I still have it in its clam pack, it has the manufacture date of 2014 on it which surprised me as the first one I purchased locally in 2020 was boxed & the paper insert was from 2018. I have not yet decided if I should keep it unopened or open it & take off the scales & put them on the new red scaled Evolution S52 model I have on order & put the plain red Evolution scales onto the S18 (I have done scale swapping a few times with various models). I now have 2 S18's & 3 of the S17 (one is a limited edition Wenger S17 with blue/black scales and two are Victorinox Delmont S17's one in red/black & one with the yellow/black scales). I bought in the past 3 different pairs of very decorative 91mm Scales from the Heidi shop in Switzerland to put on 3 new bought climbers (all bought locally during a 50% off flash sale in 2020) but last year when I wanted to buy more decorative scales they informed me that they no longer sell to Israel due to new & more bureaucratic customs regulations, even though other Swiss websites are still selling to Israel & I just looked at her website & found that she sells the 84mm Red/Black EvoGrip scales.

When you write things, you leave me with like 6 questions that I want to ask each time. I can't find the yellow evogrip scales for sale anywhere. The problem I'm having is that it's over $60. If the price comes down it's mine! I fell in love with it after watching a female motorcycle KZfaqr talk about how much she loves it.

Really! That is fascinating.Do you think that the Phillips works on the Pz2 usually?

@@thevineclimber you can use each other interchangeably but, clearly using a Pz2 bit with a Pz2 screw head the fit is better. The Phillips has more simple design and I believe the edges are more rounded. You should be able to Google the different images. The Pz2 has more indents and so is more complex.

Sounds like a sale in our modern era!

Lol true! But it has the pruner blade!!!!

@@thevineclimber Yeah, I do love that blade, a Farmer is on my Lust list 👍

Wow. That is an interesting comparison!! Huge price difference!

I have not sold ANY Swiss Army knives. I have a little collection on the shelf, and that one looks really good there! I pick it up for some task from time to time, and I felt bad for it so I carried it for a few hours last week...

Could sell it and get more swiss army knives. @@thevineclimber

@TeeFetch Ahh hahahaha!! Yeah, and I could get a lot of Swiss army knives for the price of that one! Love that pruner blade so much....

I use it in my gardens as well. I wanted a second one to mod. @@thevineclimber

Dude, this video! kzfaq.infoTueuwHPQNWM?feature=share

@@thevineclimber 😯

Well... I mean, it lacks the mini Phillips from the Rambler!! Lol I get what your are saying, SO MUCH, because that is the reason I wanted it!! And I still wish my Swiss champ had a pruner blade. So yes, I hear you!!

Oh my gosh, what if Victorinox made a drug paraphernalia SAK?!?!

But you don't want the pharmaceutical spatula? 🤣

@@thevineclimber Hahahaha what’s that going to be used for ? 😂

Yes! LOL Ì am so embarrassed!

@@thevineclimber come on! All of us don't know things that are obvious to others. Cheers.

@Lvhd Mya Hahaha thank you! 😀

Yes; and that is the purpose Victorinox stated, as well! But I use it recently to disassemble a vacuum cleaner anyway.

@@thevineclimber yes , but is for a particular work,

What?! No way I love that guy! Can't believe I haven't seen this. Does he have a video on how to grow back the top of my finger? Thanks, "rescue" tool. Thanks a ton!

Dude! I regret that purchase, but I really really got an opportunity to see how much I love that pruning blade in every day life. It would be such a waste of money but I want to make the XLT into a Swiss Champ with that blade layer. :)

@@thevineclimber You can do it. Just take off the layers you don't like. That is how I started. I did it with a super champ. For the price of the xlt, I'd buy the swiss champ survival kit.

@@thevineclimber Trust me. Once you modify your first SAK, you'll want to make more customs. I am working on a version of the handyman except the can opener and the flat head or on the same side and I got the phillips on the opposite side. The magnifying glass was broken so I couldn't use it. But I am thinking of getting the evo 23 just for the magnifying glass and add it to the build.

Ooh that's gonna be so cool! Thanks for telling us about it!

Lol thanks! I'll get as many as I can! Lol Yes that's a good point, so to speak, about them being replaceable. I think there is another brand that makes bits that work...