Have this lens and love it. Esp. for video.

How is it in low light

Do you use a battery grip when you are using this lens?

@@williambuford6136 I do. It's a bit more comfortable. Zero issues!

Yeah one of the first things I did was check for a firmware update to see if it was something already fixed. Hopefully it was a copy issue.

Do you still have the option to assign lens ring to aperture, iso and exposure compensation? Am really eager to know as I have this e mount but all my bodies are now nikon Z bodies.

I’ve played with one a bit and it did seem good - my only criticism is the lack of optical stabilisation really. Trying to figure out which direction I go in for a longer landscape lens and for which camera system I buy it at the moment, and the 24-120 is definitely an option 🤔 Shame there’s no 70-200 f/4 Z lens yet really, as there’s a rather nice looking one from Panasonic and no real Z equivalent at the moment.

@@robert_may Yes, I'm in the same position. I'm also getting old now, in my late 60s so weight has become more important. I have always loved shooting long telephoto shots in the mountains. My present landscape kit is Z8 + 14-24 f2.8 S, surprisingly light compared to the old f mount ones and a fabulous lens corner to corner that will also do astro landscapes + the 24-120 f4 which renders so well too. Then my problem starts. Logically I could get a 100-400S but this is getting quite heavy for the mountains and expensive and I couldn't possibly cart around my 180-600 at over 2 kgs either... I actually have been using the AF-P 70-300 f4.5-5.6 E VR on a FTZ adapter. That model is the only 70-300 that's pretty sharp between 200mm and 300mm, excellent vr as well. However, on the 46mp sensor it isn't quite good enough. It's sharper than the Tamron and Sigma 100-400 lenses which I borrowed to try. Not for me. So a lightweight, good quality lens that goes to 300 or 400mm? Nikon have just brought out a super zoom, not really my kind of kit but it's Z mount 28-400 f4-8. It gives f8 from 200 to 400mm ie for me an f8 200-400 lens. It's only 725 grams too! I don't mind f8 for landscape but it depends on the image quality. So a possible solution if one wants to avoid weight and get to 400. PS I find the IBIS enough with the 24-120..

@@musiqueetmontagne I'll have to try out that 14-24 at some point - it's one of those lenses I've never stumbled across at trade shows or in shops. I'm just uploading a roundup of the past month's news and talk a bit about the 28-400 in that. Haven't had a chance to try it yet but I'm certainly curious - reviews so far seem to reckon its image quality is rather good 🤔 My main dilemma is whether I go for that on the Z9, which is quite a heavy camera, or if I go for the 28-200 Panasonic lens for L-mount on the S5IIX. Obviously doesn't make it all the way to 400 but I usually find 200 enough for me for landscapes, and it's ridiculously small for a 200mm lens. Z9 is the better camera but if I'm only taking one due to shooting video it's usually the S5IIX so it's a bit of a pain choosing which route to go down 😅 That's good to know about the IBIS on the 24-120 too - I've only tested it in bright situations so it was pretty hard to assess that aspect of it.

@@robert_may Oh that would be good if you get a hold of a 28-400 to test properly. I would like to know if it's acceptably sharp and has reasonable resolving power on the 46 mp sensor.

@@musiqueetmontagne I don't like 28-400, resolution so-so and the lens already f/8 wide open, the contrast is poor, AF is also problematic.

I did try tweaking the focus settings available in the Tamron utility and none of them seemed to improve the problem, curiously 🤔 And yeah I suspect Sony has better vignetting correction. I’d definitely recommend setting it to High in the Z8/Z9 - it’s basically fine at that setting and more comparable to other lenses I checked, when those are set to Normal.

Yes, but they still make a very annoying clicking noise and I can feel them moving 🙈

My suspicion is that there's a fault in the Z variant of the firmware, as the vast majority of reviews are of the Sony version and nobody mentioned it. And I can't believe that nobody aside from me would notice that - it's so jarring! I did actually have the function buttons disabled. I was just getting super annoyed at the clicking noise more than anything haha.

@@robert_may that would make sense for the firmware front. I know what you mean as far as the buttons go, you click it and your brain tells you, "something must have happened," even though nothing happened, but now you're distracted from the moment, haha

Yeah I was really hoping it'd be my go-to event lens - it really would be a super convenient lens. What camera body are you using it on? And does yours do the same weird thing with the manual focus? There's certainly no mention of it on the Sony version (and not that many reviews of the Nikon version about)🤔

@@robert_may Might be you got a bad copy. I don't manual focus and just tried it on my Z9 and Z8 and I don't see anything weird. The peaking comes very smoothly like you would expect. My Sony version I did use often for video but also never in manual but I would have noticed if there was jumping when i played with it in manual.

Honestly if Panasonic bring out an S1 that’s competitive for wildlife I’d be seriously tempted. For alternatives I might have to consider a 70-200, but they’re usually pretty hefty 🤔

Even at F4 that would be such a winner, truly would replace both "trinity" lenses like the Tamron can't quite

Yeah this one might be on the shortlist of potential replacements!

Worked perfectly in full-frame for me when I had a Sony copy, I haven't tried a Nikon copy yet since changing mounts, but I can't imagine it's any different PetaPixels review of the 24-105 and Canon with the 10-20mm F4 is Canon doing something else. Generally they quote their lenses as 10mm or 24mm after correction, so the distortion isn't an issue. Lens corrections are a bit of a crutch, sure, but it's just as valid as opening Lightroom or Photoshop and making a change. Especially with how sharp the 24-105 is, even considering PetaPixel's opinion of the corners

​@@KidWiz3 Well... lens correction in or outside of camera essentially tells us something, be wary of uniformed IQ across the optics. You can flatten out the image but because the optic itself is distorted it means the sharpness on those edges and corners are always going to lack somewhat compared to the center. We can all forgive some vignetting wide open, but when its still existing throughout the aperture range, that is less than ideal (and a symptom of a problem rather than anything else). If we ask ourselves why only until just recently do we have optics like 28-70/2, 24-105/2.8 and 35-150/2-2.8... it's because natively to design such optics (without the heavily reliance of in (or out) camera corrections) basically is the answer. Now I'm not against camera corrections, it just means the applicability of such optics might thwart the useability. Just like Robert is suggesting here, this 35-150 would be fine for portrait work, but not a very pleasing landscape tool. And the 24-105 is probably the same thing, these are great event working optics but landscapers are probably best to look elsewhere (and f4 zooms are usually lighter, more compact and a lot of the work would be tripoded so... do we really need fast optics for that genre)?

Yeah I couldn't even bear to sell/trade in that Fujifilm 16-55 f/2.8 as I loved it so much - I gave it to my dad instead, and he likes it just as much as I did 😆 I might just have to go for a 24-70 + 70-200 combo, but it is a shame that there's no other f/2.8 lens that goes to 85mm/100mm like the Tamron does (yet), as I think that's one of the benefits that Fujifilm lens has. It's almost a shame that we don't get more bizarre zooms like the old film days. A 35-85mm would probably do me fine for many things and be pretty compact. But that's one of the reasons why I was so excited for this Tamron lens and quite frustrated when it didn't live up to my expectations. Although really my main complaint is that damn button 🙈

@@robert_may My experience to date says that for excellent IQ across the frame you gun for a prime. It's not that zooms can't have high IQ also, but its just super rare to get a zoom to having the SAME IQ throughout its zoom range, same corner and edge performance throughout the range, and the same consistent results throughout the range. The XF50-140 is actually pretty awesome. I know I can shoot this lens at f2.8 at any focal length and not worry about a drop in IQ etc, I wish I could say the same for other zooms. So for me zooms feel 'portrait purposed' (or wildlife), something where the corners and edges are not paramount to the images success. For great landscape results I think primes tend to deliver (or at least the expectation is there).

@@SummersSnaps I'm admittedly not a for-pay or expert landscape photographer, so I can't speak from that front, and I do see what you mean with IQ concerns as well. I guess my point was more I didn't experience those issues with my Sony copy (to where they affected my work, at least). Granted, Sony's mount is a lot narrower, so it's possible that benefits the lens there, where it doesn't on Z. I'm not actually sure a mount makes that much of a difference, but Nikon seems to be confident it does with wider apertures, so maybe it actually does despite the sensors being the same size? I was always under the impression that the narrower the aperture, the less the difference between edge focus and centre focus would affect the result, but to that same extent, if the goal is to get the entire scene in focus, then consistent focus would still be important. Vignetting is where I think I'd be willing to stand up for the lens on, not that extra editing or tweaking profiles is fun, but I feel like software has come far enough to where it isn't an IQ issue? But again, landscapes aren't my true forte so I'd love to learn how it does? Results to say, I absolutely see your points, and I find them intriguing from what I have learnt in my photography experiences versus how things that don't affect my work, do affect landscapes in ways that I wouldn't have thought of. It's part of what I like so much about this channel, and your willingness to respond in a way that educates me! I'm with Robert in the long run as well, even if it's less extreme than 24-105mm 2.8 or 35-150mm 2-2.8, more quirky lens ranges would be super fun to see! As well as Sigma glass, like said in the vid.

Yeah to be fair the Z9’s IBIS is impressive, but the same is true of the S5IIX and it’s even better when the lens is optically stabilised too! It’s particularly evident in video - will try to do a comparison at some point 😀

I do have a few lenses that have IS, when I use them in my Z8 the IBIS gets deactivated. Afaik Nikon utilizes only one stabilizer at any given time. Combining both would be a great firmware update tho! :-) @@robert_may

Because one person said it isn't good enough?

@@johnw.3636 , no because I have looked at other reviews and handled the lens and determined that this lens doesn’t offer me enough advantages over cost to add to my 24-70 and 70-200.

I've been using this lens for my professional photo shoots and recently carried it as my only lens to Scotland. It's a great lens.

@@brianmahaney1 Nice!

Yeah but the button is just physically irritating even if it's not enabled 😅 I don't mind a variable aperture lens, but yeah agreed it'd probably have been somewhat more compact as a constant f/2.8.

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