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I will NOT PLAY WARTHUNDER!!!!! YOU CANT MAKE ME!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

"This game feels like it has something that Vanilla TF2 has been missing for a long time." Yes, a dev team.

- Hates Demoknight - Thinks the Detonator is useless *All opinions invalidated*

"I don't care which youtube sponsors it during their random reccomended video, I am NOT playing war thunder." -Dan (Dan VS.)

This Game looks more Official than the actual Official TF2

"the TF2 we deserved" *proceeds to start video with War Thunder*

15:03 "It's a scout side grade the likes of which we havent really seen on the guy" Shortstop: well screw me I guess

18:22 the detonator doesnt need a surface to jump with edit: constantly calling demoknight a mistake is probably pushing more people away from agreeing with your opinion of this game. demoknight i widely loved by the grand majority of players, i would love to see a video of you criticizing it. edit 2: 24:59 sync jump doesnt mean what you think it means. sync jumping is multiple rockets sync'd up to hit one big rocket jump

Ok around 18:30 WHAT DO YOU MEAN YOU NEED A SURFACE TO DETENATOR JUMP?

I was shortly contemplating if we actually did deserve it, but then I remembered how TF2’s community is eons better than most of the others I’ve been in, MSM included

On the detonator: 1. you do not need a surface to jump off of, simply hold right click and THEN press left click, this also sends you farther. 2. Dealing damage with the detonator is actually quite useful, I've been in many scraps that were made far easier by utilizing the detonator's manual burst to snag enemies around corners before they can completely escape. The burst is hard to get used to but can be deadly effective when utilized properly. Plus having a flare gun of any kind, even one that isn't as heavy hitting, is still better than nothing. Mostly I agree that the boomstick is a much more effective tool, I just wanted to let you know about the detonator's true potential. Have a great day! (also is it just me or are the audio cuts really choppy? I dunno what's going on with that)

no way you called demoknight bad and annoying I love seeing a demoknight even when it kills me

As a TF2C regular, I'm glad to see more people having fun with it. This is my go-to version of TF2 now and I never looked back to regular TF2 ever since the download links for it came back. There was also a April Fools event led by the devs and it was a blast to play.

Those who besmirch the good name of Demoknight shall not see the pearly gates.

One of my favorite things about tf2c is demoman's grenade launcher First off, it now has 4 tubes instead of 6. (Very old versions of tf2 had 6 rounds in his grenade launcher, before that was nerfed... but the model was never updated). Second is that the barrels ROTATE! Like a revolver. Like they should of. It's full of those minor graphical details that honestly makes it so appealing.

The Demoknight hate is completely unwarranted lmfao Also, the Anti Aircraft cannon fires projectiles. Really fast projectiles, but you can tell they're projectiles because the explosions trail behind your crosshair when you turn while firing.

but what if we didnt deserve it? 🤨

31:31 really? Of all the stuff you want to call annoying you're gonna pick Demoknight? The objectively terrible playstyle which completely nerfs the most powerful class into the groud in exchange for funny sword moments? There's a lot of options for actually annoying/OP shit: deadringer/kunai, vaccinator pocket medics, the bazaar bargain, the scorch shot/phlog, the blackbox/conch, the diamondback. The most annoying thing about demoknight is when your teammate is playing him, because 99.99% of the time they're gonna suck ass and accomplish nothing for your team.

As someone who has been playing TF2C since 2020, I want to say that I am grateful for this video existing, as it gives TF2 Classic the love it trully deserves. There have been many videos in the past covering this project, but none come close to this level of dedication. There have been a lot of misconceptions regarding the mod over the years, but hopefully this will help people understand why me and many others enjoy this game so much.

I played tf2c last night and forgot just how good it was, hell I even got into a extremely social server, something I never get from tf2 somehow

The demoknight hate :c

5:43 "except you engineer"

title: "The TF2 We Deserved" video beginning: "WAR THUNDER"

ad sponsor chapter mark? genuinely informational video? actually entertaining information and commentary? interesting takes? yeah, I think I'm subbing.

Not rly a fan of vip gamemode , but by God, did they do a phenomeal job at the model of VIP and the voice, the voice actor is AMAZING, its like he was always a Tf2 voice actor and was always one of the main voice actors, its a shame we cant see more of it

the demoknight community is up in arms

"It doesn't have that playstyle that you really like!" Is not really selling me on this game.

Don’t know what in the hell solarlight did to your family but *wow* the unneeded hate boner for demoknight shows in this video.

been playing TF2Classic since 2014 and patiently awaited its 2020 re-release and i gotta say it truly feels like i've went back in time to when i first started playing TF2. the mod is astounding and i recommend it to anyone either looking for something new, wanting to relive the old days, and even people who've never played TF2 before. it's more worthwhile to play than live TF2 these days.

Why do you hate demoknight so much?

The out of pocket demoknight hate is really jarring and detracts from the video. Edit: You don't need a surface to Detonator jump. Edit #2: Also, wow, aggressive about Sniper much?

THATS NO CIVILIAN THATS JULES ARCHIBALD

Bro stop flaming demoknight

You don't need a surface to detonator jump. You can detonator jump from nothing. The secret is to hold right click while you do a quick spin+ jump+shoot+crouch combo and you can get the maximum amount of height and distance from that.

30:31 Yea i gotta be completely honest, while i do understand a lot of the talking points behind this and the facts present, the dismissal of base tf2, like the multiple times you very clearly stated your distaste for demoknight in a less then respectful manor, really just makes hard to want to try this out. This does, by an objective outside looking in perspective, look cool! But the way you treated things in the video makes me as a player not want to try it. You tried to be impartial around 4 teams but it came off mostly negative and not in a reviewer sense, but in the “complaining gamer” way if that means anything. The way you dissed another youtuber (one who i dont know the brick reference to) felt like a rude joke i wasnt in on and just wasnt that good of an idea to include. And again Demoknight, when you berate something beloved by many different people in a community without giving reasons why besides “demoknight is a mistake” just makes me not want to value your opinion as much. You’re dismissing something out of hand, without evidence, so why should i care about *your* opinion? Yes its good to be opinionated in a piece where you are reviewing something you have passion for, but there is being passionate and being hyper-critical. In this it really did seem like you let your emotions and bias for how negative you currently are for modern tf2 guide your creation in this video. As a viewer, i dont see WHY i should be intrested in TF2C. Your talking points were good, but you bogged them down with negativity or incorrect information like with the Detonator or with the definition of Sync Jumping. What im trying to say is I think you can make some amazing content, and at the end of the day these are criticisms from an internet rabbit. Take the thoughts however you want, or dont take them at all, im just excited to see you make content regardless

My best memory of TF2C was joining a payload server, running outta spawn, and witnessing the glory of a heavy with proximity voice chat enabled, blasting the russian anthem or whatever while mowing down the enemy team lmao

i hope tf2c keeps itself up and doesn't get cancelled like the source 2 port

Tf2c is definitely a refreshing experience but I heavily disagree that it's the "best version of tf2" not by a long shot. I do agree that demoknight is absurdly overrated, but the gunboats on demo don't exactly work I have no idea why they gave Pyro a super shotgun, but its way cooler than any of his flare guns. Im just happy they didn't add the loose cannon

as someone who started playing TF2 in 2011, i can tell you that it hit my 13 y/o gugu gaga brain hard, i still remember cranking over 200 h of playtime in just 2 weeks, it was best sh*t ever. It was simple, it had only one i belive place for a hat, and not whole 3 slots for drip. It was fun, under all these updates its still the same game, but i think it was actually community and times that were so diffrent that made this game such a gem.

Bro demoknight is actually fun, Well it need work but You cant diss it like that.

That new Spy Watch is just perfect... Fuck the Dead Ringer

The war Tunder Has already breakthrough our defenses

15:51 HOP OFF MY GOAT 🐺🐺🐺

I love how good the animations and style is. Feels almost like a remasterer.

Also fun fact the shock therapy can one shot chekov's punch heavies and its how you can get the 'its dead' achievement

I didn't even know of this project until I watched this and I went and tried it and I haven't had this much fun in years actually and I thank you for this. The amount of regulars and people who use voice chat and people laughing and having a good time. The game runs so good and the updated visuals and consistent art style like having no stupid weapon skins or unusuals or little off tf2 style cosmetics and weapons or just annoying weapons is really magical. Had my first time playing as the civilian on VIP badwater yesterday, while badwater is maybe my least favorite popular map, that was so much fun too.

bwaa its 12 am where im at, i stayed up to watch a open fortress video but now i have to watch a tf2c video aswell lmao

Bro has a vendetta against demoknight Must've gotten killed as scout too many times

when i heard the line "the sticky bomb luancher is demomans primary" i died inside abit

I think it's worth mentioning that the Sandvich also got reworked, it's now a sort of a fusion between the modern Sandvich and the current one. It doesn't refill your health completely but you can use it whenever you want, only needing to recharge if you throw it.

I feel like at this point TFTubers are running out of ideas. Ive seen atleast 5 other people covering TF2C. Not hating, just stating the facts.

"Team Fortress Classic" is not "TF1". The original game is "Quake Team Fortress" a mod for quake that was, well, team fortress. Mostly CTF. Actually really fun, good, still active, and can be played for free. It's CTF is the best in the series but it has oddities and antics. Scouts is just medic but worse, medic is just scout, but better. Spy, spy does something idk what though. Demo just has manually detonated pills instead of stickies which tbh are cool and fun to play with. It's an interesting but often forgotten part of the history of team fortress. Literally ancient history ngl. EDIT: In quake team fortress, scout has a nailgun. Medic has a "super nailgun" which is obviously a better version but that's neither here nor there. I don't remember pyro well but pyro having a "super shotgun" (tbh I'd call every scout primary worthy shotgun in a TF game a "super shotgun") doesn't seem out of character. Scout has the super shotgun equivalent in TFC though. And pyro has something more akin to the dragon's fury in both games. A fire rocket launcher.

The anti aircraft cannon is such a cool weapon, it feels like what we would have gotten if heavy won meat vs match

I WILL NOT PLAY WAR THUNDER KZfaq I DONT CARE HOW MUCH SNAIL PAYS YOU FOR THIS I WILL NOT !!!

i started playing some time ago, this mod really feels like a fresh tf2 update, my only complain is that servers support a too small player count, i think bigger servers would make matches more chaotic and lower the need for competitiveness, would also help with 4 team maps

As someone who actually plays both War Thunder and TF2 Classic, I recommend playing the latter and avoiding the former like the plague.

Cool that so many people get to enjoy this version of the game. Even though I personnally don't enjoy TF2C, it's good to know that community projects like this one exist and thrive.

I'm so glad somebody's making a full video on TF2C, it deserves as much attention as it can get, especially with the state TF2 has and still is in

2:20 got me with the damn airblast lmao

The way my heart raced cuz I thought this was a brand new tf2 update 😭

This is the kind of TF2 I've been wanting. I'll probably start playing this once the semester is done.

I couldn’t ever swap to this over tf2. The changes to soldier and demo drastically reduce their skill expression

Those new weapons are amazing. More utility, more alternative playstyles, more options. Guess I'll know what I'll be doing today.

i just love that in the sample footage for the vip gamemode in team fortress classic they're jsut playing on a map from the surface tension chapter from half-life

If you have a skill issue and cant play against demo knight it doesnt mean that the subclass is bad.

About the nailgun, didnt see all the weapons yet but I do think that giving more weapons a semi-auto mode is not the good direction. Part of the unique fun of the game was that each shot matter usually I love the heavy rocket gun as well as the pyros harvester and double barrel gun though

Honestly a VIP-esque class that's like a super objectiver could be fun for just slotting in other gamemodes. Maybe they have a natural 10× Capture rate, don't get outlined when carrying intel, and if they die with the intel it doesn't get a reset timer added on.

Looking at the chat and seeing familiar names it’s so funking cool!

What I love most about the dynamite pack is how much depth there is. Like, at first you just see it as a sticky-trap in a can. Then you realize if you hit someone with the actual projectile they take knockback. Then you realize that while pyro can airblast it, he can't reflect it like the pipes -- that first boom at least is still going off. He can put out the mini bombs but not the main one. Then you realize that engineer does have counterplay, but it's seriously high-risk, high-reward. Defusing the bomb is amazing, but if he messes it up he's going down along with his buildings, and even if he does get it, making the attempt means he's focusing on that (and even looking down), not paying attention to the pipes you choose to follow it up with. And then, once you think you have it all figured out, you press G for the first time.

Your video singlehandedly convinced me to try it and honestly? It's the most fun I've had in TF2... ever. It feels so much less punishing as a whole and everyone I've met on there so far has been super chill. I can't wait to see what the devs add next, because I don't think I can ever go back to base TF2 again

i dont play tf2 classic because the balance is centered around the avarage player. and they also did shish like giving heavy a medium range rocket launcher or straight up give some weapons upsides that dont exist in vanila for a reason. like as if they dont know the tf2 balancing concepts that are not surface stuff. ignoring that stuff, it was rly fun to play when i did some time ago and also feels nice

The coil gun sounds like what the Pomson 3000 Should have been

I like how tf2c simply takes the base of tf2 and then goes a whole different way, it makes both unique in a different way.

Not a bad video, but definitely work on your cuts for your audio. I counted about 4 times where you cut off your sentences early during the video with whatever program you were using, and while one could easily fill in the blanks for what you said, it does throw you off a bit. Either way, as someone who played TF2C, this is a good summary! Good stuff.

23:48 Bo0Oo0oing! 💥

This version of the game is my cup of tea! It's a sweet middle ground of tfc and tf2 and I love it! I miss the deathmatch tho, i know open fortress exists but still.

A little surprised that the quality of the video is so high yet there are so many lines of audio cutting out too early/late. not sure if there was an issue with recording but it's a pretty noticeable flaw to an otherwise great video

6:40 I feel like the VIP gamemode would work really well in a competitive setting.

I still need to check this out~ Thanks for video as a reminder!

Man idk how you find demoknight annoying, he is completely hard countered by pyro existing in his general area.

Its nice to see what TF2 would be with their old gamemodes back

I like how it's obvious the weapon devs are DRG players

5:50 bro thought we wouldn’t notice that 😭

The harvester has created the Spyro

11:59 "It's almost baffling this hasn't become an official valve product". Both TF2C and the Open Fortress devs were contacted by valve who expressed an interest in collaborating with them. Both games had their downloads taken away during this time. After months of radio silence from valve both games had there downloads put back up.

"The TF2 We Deserved" *"WARTHUNDE-"*

I DAMN YOU WAR THUNDER !!!

it would be awesome for the dragons fury return into tf2c, i feel like its some of the best of tf2s weapon design (with some tweaks) and yes my opinion is extremely biased since i love this weapon. it matches the rest of tf2, close range burst damage.

I wished the things of TF2 Classic would find a way into TF2 (especially graphics and some new weapons). I of course can understand that Eminoma wouldn’t just want to give up there game which makes my wish unlikely. I also think Valve never really want to update TF2 anymore. In my opinion things like cosmetics, which won’t come into TF2 Classic also make the game what it is. I definitely will look into TF2 Classic but probably keep playing TF2 just because of the time I already “put into it”. Great video, Thankyou for showing me the game ^^

you know what's BETTER than Yakuza 0? Yakuza Kiwami because it has ME in it‼

That’s interesting, because I really liked 4v4, like, there always can be another team that will get the victory, and you need to keep eye on each one if them, it’s very dynamic. Also the 4v4 Medieval is dope, they added a bunch of new maps for this game mode, and I am very happy about it

I used to play with the uberspritze in medival because it was powerful asf I always was on the top of the leaderboard people were literally questioning wtf I was doing and why I was using this weapon and entire arguments would happen

13:39 the way you pronounce überspritze has been making me laugh for the last few minutes now hahaha

Bro the thing at the start really got me. "The greatest game of all time...Yakuza Zero!" /\TF2 footage............................./\Yakuza Zero footage

Yeah TF2 Classic is awesome Glad to see both its normal/custom servers are a blast to play as always

Hello indii- this channel is one of the most quality channels, and the short array of videos are high in quality and really enjoyable. Keep doing what your doing! Also, can you do a more detailed look into Zhains custom weapons server (as mentioned in the video) ok thanks!

As someone who was around for 2008, I'm jaded on the "magic" of the old days. Your rose-tinted glasses for a time you didn't experience is clouding your judgement. "something we haven't seen on scout... trading close range effectiveness for mid range effectiveness ... good vs buildings" The Shortstop: does the same but requires actual aim instead of holding M1 at enemies for more a more satisfying weapon to fight and use. "You need to be near surfaces to jump" My brother in Christ have you used the thing? That you can hold M2 to detonate while shooting makes the Detonator unique among all blast jumping weapons in that you DON'T need a surface. And just in general, while the Twin-Barrel fits in TF2C for it's stripped back nature, having a close range finisher in the form of the Axtinguisher makes the burst damage of your secondary less of a necessity. Which is why the Detonator provides something else for the pyro in long range harassment which is oddly glossed over here. "Gunboats on demo just works" It really doesn't. For the class that has the easiest form of blast jumping, giving him that much extra self-damage resistance to jumps makes it braindead easy to clear distances and harass the enemy backline. Like it's annoying enough when stickyjumper demos have grenades to camp the enemy spawn with, it's another thing entirely when they have functional stickybombs. "It's a great evolution of the KGB" It's really not. The passive downside for just equipping it before you get any use of it isn't worth the benefit since it doesn't aid heavy in getting those melee hits in the first place. It simply relies on your enemies being unaware enough to get into your melee range without noticing. Also please learn to edit and stop your voice clips cutting out at the end.

5:50 oh yeah he did say that

2:11 SOLDIER IS ME