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The Top 2 Premium Class B Camper Vans Under 20' | Pleasureway Ascent versus Airstream Interstate 19

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Neil Balthaser

Neil Balthaser

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These are the top two luxury, premium brand, under 20' class B RVs available in North America. How do they compare and which one is right for you?
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Pleasureway has been evolving and improving the Ascent since they first introduced it in 2008. In that time it's become one of the best short Sprinter camper vans available here in North America. It is a quality coach with a great layout and a well thought out design that balances trade offs. It's not surprising that in 2018 Airstream came out with their Interstate 19, a close replica of the Ascent.
The Interstate 19 isn't an exact copy. It does offer some features that aren't available on the Ascent like: automatic blinds, a side view camera system, an air ride suspension and most importantly a 4-wheel drive option. If any of those things are important to you then the Airstream is the only way to go.
But if quality and attention to detail are important to you then the Ascent is the way to go. In fit and finish as well as materials the Ascent is superior to the Interstate 19. The sofa and ottomans use thicker memory foam, ottomans are attached to cushions so they don't fly around during travel and everything just has a more solid feel about it. That's all backed by Pleasureway's 5 year warranty - 2 years longer than Airstream's.
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@Ultramobility
@Ultramobility 5 жыл бұрын
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@Ultramobility
@Ultramobility 5 жыл бұрын
Karen B. thanks for the PayPal tip!
@onejourney
@onejourney 5 жыл бұрын
Hi, your FAN ... One Journey 🗺 Let's Make It Count❗️
@aironeous
@aironeous 5 жыл бұрын
Can you post an Electroneum wallet address? I'll send you 500 ETN. I've watched many of your videos and value them.
@JohnDoe-kj3dz
@JohnDoe-kj3dz 4 жыл бұрын
Beg for money
@udubrf1
@udubrf1 4 жыл бұрын
I was going to join at the $100 a month level but it says there are only 3 spots remaining and I hate to take a spot from someone else.
@gaijinsumo
@gaijinsumo 5 жыл бұрын
Thank you Neil for your extensive research and clear explanations! One point: without having seen either of these vans in person, I have to humbly say that, in my experience in the industrial and automotive manufacturing industries, "stall built" is not necessarily better quality than an assembly line. Having coaches individually built in parallel creates a significant quality consistency challenge. Quality depends on all of the workers being equally conscientious and skilled at multiple tasks. Whereas an assembly line is much more controllable with "specialists" at each station performing the same assembly tasks on every vehicle.
@Ultramobility
@Ultramobility 5 жыл бұрын
thanks for sharing your thoughts john!
@evamaria644
@evamaria644 5 жыл бұрын
I agree I worked on an assembly line and if something isn't right you have the ability to stop the line. In our factory, we rotated every hour so that one person would be proficient on each part that went into the vehicle after a while you just know the vehicle and how everything should feel. Just because something is massed produced doesn't mean it is of inferior quality. What you are really saying is that the workers aren't of the same quality or craftmanship or you're saying the material that American's use isn't of the same quality. Otherwise, how would he know that the ascent is built better he didn't compare any of these things.
@g.3046
@g.3046 2 жыл бұрын
I'm not even sure why Ultramobility mentions this! False and misleading statement in my opinion. Because Pleasureway is built in a stall does not mean the quality is automatically better than a production line! If you think Pleasureway is better quality than the Airstream Interstate 19 then give a define reason(s). Stalls vs. production lines may make a difference for building speed , but speed does not equal quality!
@NepentheBlue
@NepentheBlue 5 жыл бұрын
Yours are the best rv reviews I've seen on KZfaq. Informative, clearly stated, and honest, which is fantastic. Looking forward to seeing more of your videos!
@Ultramobility
@Ultramobility 5 жыл бұрын
thank you!
@tbar5270
@tbar5270 5 жыл бұрын
I am not currently in the market for a camper, but this review really caught my eye. Great job! very well done comparison/review. When it comes to be my time I hope you are still at it, your my first stop!
@beancounter1435
@beancounter1435 5 жыл бұрын
One thing not addressed is aesthetics. This may be personal, but I think most people would opine that the Airstream simply looks much nicer than the Pleasureway. Better stitching on upholstery , nicer counter top, richer wood finish with rounded corners, beautiful flooring, and that porthole on the bathroom door is a nice touch. Also the Airstream name has more cache associated with it, a Jaguar vs. a Volkswagen. I just feel like when you step into the Airstream you know you are in a $150,000 coach, where with the Pleasureway, for $150K, it is somewhat plain Jane.
@Ultramobility
@Ultramobility 5 жыл бұрын
@Michael Tyler - yep i do mention that if you love the airstream brand then that's the only way to go. i've tried before commenting on aesthetics but it is so subjective. i just stopped commenting on it.
@mariteremera8641
@mariteremera8641 5 жыл бұрын
💯 true‼️❤️
@jimbotheassclown
@jimbotheassclown 5 жыл бұрын
The sleeping three thing is easily remedied by just going to a Pleasureway dealer and ordering the uncomfortable blow up bed and using it in the Airstream .
@Ultramobility
@Ultramobility 5 жыл бұрын
Sure maybe. But the Ascent comes with it standard. Airstream should just offer it for the prices they are charging. Plus that third bed doesn’t do you much good if you can’t safely carry the third person in a 3pt seatbelt.
@jimbotheassclown
@jimbotheassclown 5 жыл бұрын
The seat belts pass the highway safety regulations just fine . I still drive my 68 Dodge Coronet so I'm not that worried about lap belts . Would i use a child seat there no not even with a three point seat belt because you get rear ended and thats going to be a bad day regardless kids or adults. And let's face it both are 2 people RV's that blow up bed is a bad joke .
@Ultramobility
@Ultramobility 5 жыл бұрын
sounds like the Interstate 19 is for you!
@jimbotheassclown
@jimbotheassclown 5 жыл бұрын
No just pointing out that people are Splitting hairs on what are basically the same van . At the end of the day is which one is more likely to be around in three to five years because as the resent Hymer and Roadtrek bankruptcy a warranty is only good if the company stays in business that long and then the master upfitter debacle .
@Ultramobility
@Ultramobility 5 жыл бұрын
not sure what you're saying. no one can predict when a company may go out of business. any company large or small could go out of business at any time so not sure what you're implying here... forget warranties?
@rvboondocker2559
@rvboondocker2559 5 жыл бұрын
Also an electric bathroom vent fan and a fantastic van in the kitchen area in the Interstate 19. Does need lithium option. I bought my own 525 amp hour plus 3000w inverter/charger. Great and fair review
@Ultramobility
@Ultramobility 5 жыл бұрын
great to hear John P. I appreciate that coming from an actual owner of an Interstate 19! They are both great coaches no doubt.
@juliapl3174
@juliapl3174 5 жыл бұрын
John P. Does the 3000 watt inverter make it possible to use all the outlets and microwave off the battery? Thanks!
@rvboondocker2559
@rvboondocker2559 5 жыл бұрын
Julia PL Yes Julia. Thanks for the question.
@stjohnluxuryvillas6829
@stjohnluxuryvillas6829 5 жыл бұрын
I wish I understood the amp hour and the inverter thing better. What does that get you? I was told to be afraid of the lithium batteries. I'm confused. Please explain.
@rvboondocker2559
@rvboondocker2559 5 жыл бұрын
Rhonda McCay That’s because it is quite confusing! You can look it up on the Internet and you will see a few videos and get some pretty good explanations. Basically, the larger the number of amp hours the more power you can draw per hour and the longer your battery will last per charge. That is very basic. It depends on how many amps each of the pieces of equipment that you use will draw and then you would add that up. It is generally measured I think over 20 hours or something like that. Also , You never want to run your battery down all the way. Non lithium batteries are happy down to about 50% while Lithium battery give you full power down to about 10%. It also keeps the battery life stable for a longer period of time, if you don’t run it down to low.
@RobertKeenanComp-U-Right
@RobertKeenanComp-U-Right 5 жыл бұрын
I must say, I really enjoyed this video, it seemed to me you presented the van information in a clearer and more precise manner than in the past. Also prefer the opening dialogue,straight to comparison.Well done Neil.
@Ultramobility
@Ultramobility 5 жыл бұрын
really appreciate hearing your feedback @Robert Keenan. I've been working hard to streamline my videos - getting right to the point so as to not waste viewer's precious time. i see some channels where videos are 20 minutes and those videos could be edited down to 5 minutes. so i thank you for letting me know. i try to do 1 incremental improvement to my videos per week.
@rvboondocker2559
@rvboondocker2559 Жыл бұрын
I am listing mine: Airstream Interstate 19’, 4x4 KO2’s, State-of-The-Art Lithionics 525amp/hr Lithium battery pack, 250W Solar, 3000W inveigh/charger, Onan generator, upgraded bed seat cushioning and much more!
@rickuyeda4818
@rickuyeda4818 3 жыл бұрын
As we mentioned, the Mercedes annual maintenance cost is about $908. There are two types of scheduled services for Mercedes-Benz vehicles - service A and service B.
@thebillbaker4793
@thebillbaker4793 5 жыл бұрын
OK here we go again an excellent presentation with the common sense review.
@Ultramobility
@Ultramobility 5 жыл бұрын
thank you @The Bill Baker. i'm trying hard to deliver consistently fair, balanced and valuable reviews without wasting a lot of your time. thanks for letting me know.
@Cliff00936
@Cliff00936 5 жыл бұрын
Lithium ion batteries and a comfortable bed goes a long way.
@xrpxtrariceplease2811
@xrpxtrariceplease2811 5 жыл бұрын
Listened to Neil and buy the the ascent! He is very detail in what he buys !
@Ultramobility
@Ultramobility 5 жыл бұрын
whoa! i didn't say you should buy the ascent! i laid out the relative strengths and weaknesses of each model. for me the ascent works better but for others here who have purchased the interstate 19 it works better. but thank you for the compliment!
@xrpxtrariceplease2811
@xrpxtrariceplease2811 5 жыл бұрын
Ultramobility I meant you have great taste and you pick the best value for your money
@Ultramobility
@Ultramobility 5 жыл бұрын
oh well in that case - Yes, listen to me! lol thank you.
@rayjones3212
@rayjones3212 5 жыл бұрын
Problem with so many of the company-built Class-B RV's the layout of the bathroom and the lack of ADA mobility options. If someone (as in manufacturer) would have offered some type of option for ADA Mobility (bathroom) and plenty of leg room up front, we would probably own one by now. But we chose to go with a custom-built unit and expect to pick it up in Mid-August of 2019.
@johnrichards3666
@johnrichards3666 Жыл бұрын
I'm sure the Mercedes chassis has it's advantages but I wouldn't want to be at the mercy of a Mercedes dealership out on the road. However, I wouldn't be opposed to being convinced that it doesn't present a problem. Your videos are top notch.
@Ultramobility
@Ultramobility Жыл бұрын
thank you so much
@camiwyatt
@camiwyatt 3 жыл бұрын
Thank you for a well thought, clear, and to the point video worth watching! I don’t have to increase playback speed to get through useless information, super slow talking (since you obviously prepared material), and “Ums” and redundant information.
@Ultramobility
@Ultramobility Жыл бұрын
Glad it was helpful!
@dmorean
@dmorean 5 жыл бұрын
Thanks Neil. Always enjoy your vidoes. The bed comfort is a HUGE deal...I've tried the Interstate couch/bed and the metal framing pokes at you...deal breaker for me...
@Ultramobility
@Ultramobility 5 жыл бұрын
yep. lots of folks forget to really check out bed comfort. the manufacturers have learned to pretty up the upholstery with fancy stitching etc to fool us into believing the sofa and ottomans are comfortable when they aren't. great point you make here.
@beancounter1435
@beancounter1435 5 жыл бұрын
The Interstate 19 does not have the metal frame between the side seats and the sofa like the regular Interstate. So no poking on the 19.
@dmorean
@dmorean 5 жыл бұрын
@@Ultramobility Exactly. Fancy stitching won't help your soar back!
@dmorean
@dmorean 5 жыл бұрын
@@beancounter1435 Good to know...I'll check that out!
@deborahkellydbaabsoluterea8575
@deborahkellydbaabsoluterea8575 5 жыл бұрын
can you tell me pricing on these
@48dlonra
@48dlonra 5 жыл бұрын
Thanks. With a swivel bathroom the Interstate 19 would be perfect. Or the Ascent. Really like your channel. You say (somebody says) people are leaving the big Airstreams for the small camper vans. They probably would like to keep as many of the creature comforts as possible in the smaller space. I think it would make an excellent series if you could suggest how that could be done. Starting with the swivel bathroom, of course. Again thanks.
@LiLi-ib7mp
@LiLi-ib7mp 5 жыл бұрын
Another great video. Thanks Neil! If someone can come up with a design on this short chasis that sleeps 4, I'd buy one.
@Ultramobility
@Ultramobility 5 жыл бұрын
PW just needs to figure out how to fit a 4th berth in the Ascent!
@gatorhawk1324
@gatorhawk1324 4 жыл бұрын
How about buying your own high quality inflatable twin bed and lay it on the front seat.
@user-ls9nc2ml7t
@user-ls9nc2ml7t 3 жыл бұрын
Super Nice vid! Thanks
@Ultramobility
@Ultramobility Жыл бұрын
Thank you too!
@Primogen1
@Primogen1 5 жыл бұрын
Great video Neil! Definitely going to check both of these coaches out. Very handsome vehicles.
@Ultramobility
@Ultramobility 5 жыл бұрын
i agree! very handsome vehicles indeed! thanks for watching Magic Journey!
@donpet8258
@donpet8258 3 жыл бұрын
Agree ! Owned many RVs. Now just 2 pleasureways. ( cause I can’t part with my older one). A quality to make you go nowhere else !
@SPQR-Z
@SPQR-Z 4 жыл бұрын
Both are extremely nice and high build quality. We bought the larger Interstate after comparing all major comparable B-vans. AS was the most expensive but had everything standard so by the time you equip the things you needed on the other vans the price was very close to the same. These vans are all sold out so you’ll be hard pressed to find them to do comparisons so these Tube videos are welcome
@Ultramobility
@Ultramobility Жыл бұрын
glad they are helpful
@deniseracine6788
@deniseracine6788 5 жыл бұрын
Another great review! I have been waiting for you to compare these two ever since putting a deposit on an Ascent last november. We are picking it up next tuesday so your review came just in time to reconfirm our choice before we take possession. Please note that i still have your code for the 250$ credit. I will be sending it in soon after delivery.
@Ultramobility
@Ultramobility 5 жыл бұрын
really glad that this review came just in time! thank you for using my PAC number. it helps the channel. you're going to love your ascent! is it on the 2020 sprinter chassis?
@deniseracine6788
@deniseracine6788 5 жыл бұрын
Ultramobility Funny you ask....Since we ordered it so long ago and were unable to pick it up until now it is actually a 2018 Sprinter and a 2019 PW unit. We debated (and still do) if we should transfer our deposit to the more recent model but it seems we got a very fair price at approx. 134,000$ including radius laminate cabinets, side/back screens, exterior paint, 190 watt solar package. Even after a few recent inquiries, I believe our price to be 10-15,000$ less than I have found anywhere throughout Canada for the 2018/2019 model. Apparently the newer models have the exact PW builds on the newer Sprinter chassis and would cost about 10,000$ more and are not easily available until next september. I’m not sure that the new Sprinter features justify revisiting our choice...what are your thoughts?
@Ultramobility
@Ultramobility 5 жыл бұрын
@Denise Racine - if you start over then the wait time will be next fall i would imagine. if you can wait through another season then the safety upgrades on the 2020 sprinter are fantastic but having said that the safety features on the 2018 MY are still top of the class. a year is a long time to wait!
@deniseracine6788
@deniseracine6788 5 жыл бұрын
Ultramobility I just sent the PAC reward claim. Thanks again for your help. We absolutely love our Ascent!
@deniseracine6788
@deniseracine6788 5 жыл бұрын
Ultramobility Can you confirm reception of the check? We got ours last week.
@bobshoe1
@bobshoe1 4 жыл бұрын
Since you have first-hand experience with Pleasureway, it might be helpful to your viewers/readers to know about our experience with a then-new top-of-the-line Airstream Interstate 24' RV that we bought in 2016. After six months of grief, aggravation and heartache with what is in our opinion the worst designed, poorly made badly dealer/manufacturer supported network, we thankfully traded it on a 2016 Leisure Travel Van Unity Twin Bed that gave us nothing but joy. The Mercedes platform, to be fair, on both the Interstate and the LTV is excellent and largely problem-free and reliable. Our issues were entirely with the coach. As we traveled extensively, we heard great satisfaction and praise from satisfied Pleasureway owners, while many Interstate owners, like us, were disillusioned with the brand. It would take many paragraphs to list what we felt were Interstate design flaws and manufacturing defects on the coach we owned. For example, It had electric motors and controls that were never needed and created complexities and failures. Why have electric motors on all the sun and night shades? Keeping it in synch proved impossible for us, and individual shades failed on a regular basis. It had a rotary drum to electrically reel in the macerator hose that turned too fast and would jam the hose and blow the fuses. (We had to explain to the Airstream dealer that it was a blown fuse that stopped the macerator). The electric lounge transformed into the bed using the pull out side seats. These seats had metal brackets that when extended to make the bed, hit us near our knees making it painfully uncomfortable to sleep. Yes, this was a 2016 Interstate coach. Perhaps the 2020's are better conceived and built.
@Ultramobility
@Ultramobility Жыл бұрын
very good feedback
@tetsuyanagada
@tetsuyanagada 3 жыл бұрын
Great comparison between the two. I own an Airstream trailer now and am looking at selling it for a van. Based on this review, and how I'll use it, the Interstate wins out.We'll see if that holds true once I start going through them with a fine tooth comb. Thanks for the video.
@g.3046
@g.3046 2 жыл бұрын
I agree - Airstream Interstate 19 far superior and more modern.
@dougdawson2500
@dougdawson2500 5 жыл бұрын
Just started researching Class B's, and found your reviews. Excellent information, love your research and your fair reviews. I love the Pleasureway, have similar usage ideas to you, and know I want the 19 ft Sprinter chassis. However, I have to have the 4wd option (Colorado mountains in the wintertime). Would your recommendation be the Airstream based on that need? Any other manufacturers with the 4wd option? Roadtrek is out (too much uncertainty) and Winnebago is too utilitarian. Have you seen any custom conversion companies you would recommend over the Airstream? Most customs that I have seen seem more utilitarian, camper first designs.
@brucepolkowitz7464
@brucepolkowitz7464 5 жыл бұрын
Am considering and exploring everything about class B. I am a complete novice, but a great researcher detail person.. Just saw your video today and thought you were excellent. Look forward to my first purchase. Thank you
@evamaria644
@evamaria644 5 жыл бұрын
you better look at some other reviews before you buy or check out more of his videos.
@brucemontgomery8136
@brucemontgomery8136 3 жыл бұрын
very very well done w all the right hard numbers shared!! excellent
@Ultramobility
@Ultramobility Жыл бұрын
Thank you kindly!
@juliapl3174
@juliapl3174 5 жыл бұрын
Can you review the Midwest automotive passage built on the 19.5 foot Mercedes sprinter?
@DonaldEismann
@DonaldEismann 4 жыл бұрын
Ditto. A review of the Passage 144 would be helpful
@user-cj7dv2kc6d
@user-cj7dv2kc6d 5 жыл бұрын
Great comparison.. please do more of these. Plateau fl vs interstate gt? Lexor fl vs coachmen beyond?
@sadielaurentiwhitley3762
@sadielaurentiwhitley3762 3 жыл бұрын
Thank you for all this information.
@JohnLee-yy1be
@JohnLee-yy1be 5 жыл бұрын
Excellent review as always! How about Ascent vs. American Coach FD2 please?
@boorayin2773
@boorayin2773 5 жыл бұрын
I think you did a marvelous job picking your interior. I don't see that Pleasureway offers the same color high-gloss, radius that you picked (as I'm picking options on their site) - your (I believe) cherry is nicer, I think. The radius design looks sharp - but it's an extra $3250! I also really like the almond upholstery that yours has. All of that together looks really nice - quite luxurious-looking. I've only been able to find gray upholstery with mocha cabinetry in used ones in my area - it's just all too dark and doesn't look as nice IMHO. For the price, I want it to look super sharp. I wish they offered these vans in the cherry red that I've seen Winnebago offering, too - silver and white are boring.
@ziggyff693
@ziggyff693 4 жыл бұрын
not including the road trek SS Agile ?..looks best to me especially 4WD option for us skiers
@DavidHuffTexas
@DavidHuffTexas 5 жыл бұрын
Still more of a PW fan, but come on Dean...let's update to compressor fridges. I'd also like to see a propane-less upgrade option (underhood "generator," i.e. 2nd alternator, diesel heat/hot water, and an induction cooktop).
@Ultramobility
@Ultramobility 5 жыл бұрын
noted! i will be seeing Dean in person shortly. I will ask him!
@marykaylayman1078
@marykaylayman1078 5 жыл бұрын
Ultramobility I agree 100%. We started with the Ascent and now have a plateau FL. The fridge is useless, JMO
@frankclark8009
@frankclark8009 3 жыл бұрын
Super excellent comparison, thanks!
@Ultramobility
@Ultramobility Жыл бұрын
Glad it helped!
@48dlonra
@48dlonra 5 жыл бұрын
I meant Adria. Anyway, I would like to ask you how can someone explore the possibility of adding a swiveling bathroom to an Interstate 19 or the Ascent? I bet I lot of people would be interested.
@jimstrom1934
@jimstrom1934 Жыл бұрын
Have you done a comparison of the gas version of the Pleasureway Ascent vs the Panoramic that you currently own. I'm curious to know, for your own personal use, which one you prefer and why. Also, how would you advise someone to purchase the Panoramic? I would think used or direct purchase might be the answer. What would you expect the price to be?
@Ultramobility
@Ultramobility Жыл бұрын
Layout-wise I definitely prefer the Panoramic. With the new 2022 Ram chassis it is on par with the Sprinter in terms of safety features. Lacking a bit in luxury features like electric seat controls, heated seats and power side door but in terms of drive ability I now prefer the Promaster. The electric steering is much nicer and the 9 speed transmission is amongst the best transmissions I’ve driven. Just call Panoramic and place an order. They will take care of you. Price will be around $150k for a fully loaded on like mine.
@242rox12
@242rox12 5 жыл бұрын
Great job as always Neil! I sure look forward to your videos my friend!!
@Ultramobility
@Ultramobility 5 жыл бұрын
that's very kind of you to say. thank you @242rox
4 жыл бұрын
Very nice review. But $150,000 goes a long way towards inexpensive hotels with continental breakfast. $150,000 ÷ $100/night = 1,500 nights in a hotel.
@billsheehy1
@billsheehy1 4 жыл бұрын
Excellent review. Thanks so much
@buzzzub8563
@buzzzub8563 3 жыл бұрын
Thank you again for your detailed comparison.
@Ultramobility
@Ultramobility Жыл бұрын
My pleasure!
@ronprestonsales9693
@ronprestonsales9693 4 жыл бұрын
Midwest/American Coach should be included in this comparison
@stephaniejames6672
@stephaniejames6672 5 жыл бұрын
I love you videos, and this one was important to me, but you have to admit that your bias rings clear throughout - whether in wording or in images. ;) It’s hard not to be once you have found something you love. Scientists have a difficult time with it. Anyway, thanks for your very good review of the Ascent while also mentioning the Interstate Nineteen’s similarities. One thing I’d like cleared up is the ability of each coach to go winter camping. Airstream has tank heaters, I think, but Pleasureway does not.
@mwsteffen
@mwsteffen 5 жыл бұрын
This was a very pleasant surprise seeing this video today Neil. Considering the differences you discussed, the Ascent wins hands down. Great job!
@Ultramobility
@Ultramobility 5 жыл бұрын
thanks Mark! When is your scheduled to be delivered?
@mwsteffen
@mwsteffen 5 жыл бұрын
@@UltramobilityJust got word last week, that they only received a few silver colored 2019 144" chassis and none of them had all the new upgrades. They were lacking LED headlights, only had a 7" Nav screen and no Sirius radio. We passed until they get more in with all options. Been waiting since Oct 2018 so we're holding out.
@blacksahara618
@blacksahara618 3 жыл бұрын
Surprised it isn’t built on the 4x4. I like the extra clearance you get.
@pianomanreece
@pianomanreece 4 жыл бұрын
Very helpful. Thanks!
@Ultramobility
@Ultramobility Жыл бұрын
Glad it was helpful!
@johnpuccetti9383
@johnpuccetti9383 5 жыл бұрын
Another great review. But I consider the awnings useless, the fossil fuel generator totally unnecessary last but most important A Natures Head separating toilet saves tank space and waste issues. I almost forgot the AC is so loud and ineffective we don't use it. Hmm what else does not work in a real world.
@Ultramobility
@Ultramobility 5 жыл бұрын
@John Pucetti - thanks for sharing your thoughts! i wish I could do away with my generator but there are those 2 times in the last 2 years that I have needed it!
@kimhorton6109
@kimhorton6109 5 жыл бұрын
Why don’t more coaches use a folding sink and a swing-away toilet. The scrimpy bath goes with the smaller vehicle but it can be compensated for with good engineering.
@hongshi8251
@hongshi8251 5 жыл бұрын
A pleasure to say the least. Agree with the comments below about needing the 4 person sleeping arrangement. I guess the only way is to go higher. Tradeoffs ...
@Ultramobility
@Ultramobility 5 жыл бұрын
thanks for watching! sleeping longer term any more than 2 in a coach this size isn't recommended. the third berth is nice in a pinch.
@johntaylor1947
@johntaylor1947 3 жыл бұрын
A propane frige will be quieter and probably last longer not to mention more efficient.
@liaodesign
@liaodesign 4 жыл бұрын
OMG I came across your video about b class comparison. And you looked awfully familiar just at the first glance. U were my boss about 20 yrs back in the city I can’t believe this. I hope all is well my name Steve l but been so long you probably don’t remember. Love the comparison video!!!
@Ultramobility
@Ultramobility Жыл бұрын
steve brady? or…
@bunoz527
@bunoz527 5 жыл бұрын
I always wanted to know what your camper was
@Ultramobility
@Ultramobility 5 жыл бұрын
lol - yep a 2017 Pleasureway Ascent. Bought it myself. No special deal. paid what everyone would pay.
@jayfoster5756
@jayfoster5756 5 жыл бұрын
Excellent comparison!
@RoadsofLife
@RoadsofLife 5 жыл бұрын
I was looking at the Interstate for a while there, but the lack of passenger belts, no lithium batteries, and (if I'm not mistaken) the plastic toilet, just let me down and were deal breakers. I've shied away from Mercedes Sprinters though, so although I do, as always, love the reviews, my interests are now leaning toward Ram Promaster Lexor FL or the Midwest Promaster Legend. Any comparisons coming up on those?
@Ultramobility
@Ultramobility 5 жыл бұрын
Your wish is my command!
@RoadsofLife
@RoadsofLife 5 жыл бұрын
Ha! If only! You need to ignore me until I have the money to support your patreon! You are a wealth of information and deserve as much support as you can get. But I do promise once I finally get the Lexor you will be the PAC I use! @@Ultramobility
@Ultramobility
@Ultramobility 5 жыл бұрын
no seriously. i do a comparison between the Lexor FL and the Legend maybe next week?
@RoadsofLife
@RoadsofLife 5 жыл бұрын
Really? That's great news! And I am serious... you deserve as much support as you can get! I have learned so much just by watching your videos, it's quite astonishing! Every time we fall back and think an RV is not in our future, you come out with a video that flips us right back around and then we say... well... just maybe...! @@Ultramobility
@Ultramobility
@Ultramobility 5 жыл бұрын
@Roads of Life - I've asked Midwest Automotive for more pictures and videos so that I can better show it in a comparison video. If they don't get back to me today then what do you think about a comparison between the Lexor and the Coachmen Crossfit (now Beyond) 22C?
@kenescher7696
@kenescher7696 5 жыл бұрын
Love your videos Neil. I am a pleasure way fan and I know you prefer them as well. However, the prices are just too high. As I've been searching used RVs, I've found airstreams are much, much cheaper than pleasure way and there are 3-4 times more used airstreams. Why are they so much cheaper considering they are almost equal in quality?
@stjohnluxuryvillas6829
@stjohnluxuryvillas6829 5 жыл бұрын
I agree. Once you do all the add on's to Pleasure Way, it is much more. And you still can't get 4x4
@alberthilditch9167
@alberthilditch9167 4 жыл бұрын
You answered your own question. More available with lower resale value = they are not almost equal in quality.
@TheBlackJewelz
@TheBlackJewelz 3 жыл бұрын
How's the storage space in the Ascent? & how's the cost of fuel as opposed to standard gasoline campers?
@shekharmoona544
@shekharmoona544 5 жыл бұрын
How has this not been picked up by Netflix or cable TV?
5 жыл бұрын
What is it with the most expensive RVs out there offering 2-point lap belts to passengers (which means you don't carry your most precious guests) and lead-acid batteries that Henry Ford used 100 years ago I still think the RV industry is where the US car industry was when an unknown Japanese compnay named Toyota decided to take over the US car industry by offering what consumers wanted and not what MBAs wanted in the boardroom
@Ultramobility
@Ultramobility 5 жыл бұрын
agree but from my talks with heads of these companies the product is not a must-have product like a car. As a secondary or tertiary big ticket item there's just not a lot of r&d dollars that are justified since volume levels are so low. that's my understanding of the situation at least.
@jimbotheassclown
@jimbotheassclown 5 жыл бұрын
A lead acid battery that Ford used a hundred years ago seriously that's like say a model A and a Ford Focus are basically the same and no major improvements have been made . For the Vast majority of Mercedes Rv owners lead acid batteries are more than adequate.
5 жыл бұрын
@@jimbotheassclown I just spent a minute trying to find a lead-acid battery in our home just Lithium and Alkaline in our home. Rechargeable items are all Lithium. I have to look into our Honda HR-V to find a lead battery. And it is designed to be 100% charged with a start once in a while and then back to 100% in 5 minutes That is not what is needed in the RV living quarters Lithium is what is needed and not an antique The RV manufacturers base their electrical needs based on the wrong electrical use model
@Judy-cm6kp
@Judy-cm6kp 5 жыл бұрын
I agree. Lithium is the new standard expectation. Anything less in a high cost RV is a rip off
@jimbotheassclown
@jimbotheassclown 5 жыл бұрын
lol ok lets talk when it's time to replace those batteries.
@donalddodson7365
@donalddodson7365 2 жыл бұрын
These pre-COVID-19 evaluations are very helpful, but getting dated, aren't they? Is it because there are so few Class B's being manufactured now? Or, maybe too few changes (other than price) to make a full episode?? Anyway, appreciate the information. Thank you.
@fredandcj8681
@fredandcj8681 5 жыл бұрын
Hello Neil, Can you possibly provide the Ascent's CCC in the base model or as optioned as you own yours? I can't find that info on the PleasureWay site. I know the CCC is reduced by any options your add on, but it is important to know before getting too serious about any coach. Thanks, as always you are a great reviewer and always hit on the most important points when making comparisons.
@IowaLanguages
@IowaLanguages 3 жыл бұрын
What's the best van for 1-2 people who won't be off-roading and have a budget?
@ahatata15
@ahatata15 3 жыл бұрын
Great comparison, Can you do an update video, any changes for 2021/2022 ? I’m in the market and I cant find a good source for comparison between the 2 vans. Seems to me interstate has a lot more electrical components and toys vs the pleasesureway however, there is a significant price difference.
@sweetwater4583
@sweetwater4583 5 жыл бұрын
I need to know. How much can it carry, what is the weight limit for the engine? What is the max weight for the frame? I have seen too many fancy rigs with overloaded engines and or suspensions. they burn out after 35000M or so. Does the rig strain at eighty? does it come apart at eighty? What is it's insolation factor, can it keep you warm in -20 weather, cool at 110F?
@johnmorgan1629
@johnmorgan1629 5 жыл бұрын
Nice review Neil. Hope you're feeling better soon, sounds like either allergies have kicked in, or you have a cold. Looks like camera has come out in sympathy, the focus was going in and out a bit.
@Ultramobility
@Ultramobility 5 жыл бұрын
thank you john - allergies. yep i will get that continuous focus mode shut off next week! thanks for watching!
@johnmorgan1629
@johnmorgan1629 5 жыл бұрын
@@Ultramobility Your welcome, it is not bad here, spring is only coming in, in fits and starts for pollen etc. not getting too high.
@babylindavida683
@babylindavida683 4 жыл бұрын
Great review! I’m searching for a Class B motorhome (length under 21 feet) with capacity to transport 5 passengers safely but I’m just finding seats with two shoulder harness on the back of the RV. Do you know a class B motor home with this type of seats and the middle seat with a lap belt? Thanks!
@IMP3TIGO
@IMP3TIGO 5 жыл бұрын
Great comparison video. Never understood why Airstream didn't put shoulder belts on the back of the 19. Love the inflatable bed in the Pleasureway. Doesn't RoadTrek also make a sub-20' Mercedes class B? They used to at least.
@5stardave
@5stardave 5 жыл бұрын
Roadtrek is out of business.
@IMP3TIGO
@IMP3TIGO 5 жыл бұрын
@@5stardave Whoa, had no idea, crazy! Apparently they were recently bought by the parent company of Westfalia and will resume operations in NA, although on a smaller scale.
@borostojmenov5249
@borostojmenov5249 2 жыл бұрын
I appreciate the way you impartiality compare the two models. Do you know if we can get them in Canadian thanks?
@sjhaase
@sjhaase 4 жыл бұрын
Great Presentation!
@Ultramobility
@Ultramobility Жыл бұрын
Thank you kindly!
@tangwendeo
@tangwendeo 4 жыл бұрын
thank you for the excellent info
@Ultramobility
@Ultramobility Жыл бұрын
you’re welcome
@CrankyGrandma
@CrankyGrandma 4 жыл бұрын
The ascent is my number one choice on my dream rv wishlist. How is it for an RV Virgin? We’ve done tent camping but never RV life. What is the learning curve? Right now it’s only a wish to get one but I do wonder how easy it is to start thing from zero knowledge
@Ultramobility
@Ultramobility Жыл бұрын
it’s good. all depends on your needs though
@oldranger649
@oldranger649 4 жыл бұрын
These are very Kool, but where would I go for potential access from the Rear door (these models prevent access)? thks
@Michael-pu3yw
@Michael-pu3yw 5 жыл бұрын
Is PW planning any changes for 2021? Love your videos. Have considered T with Pure3 and Beyond with all insulation upgrades and Li3, but PW quality keeps me looking at them as the others are hit and miss(usually miss).
@Ultramobility
@Ultramobility 5 жыл бұрын
yeah i just other manufacturers would focus more on quality and less on throwing in more features, battery power, etc. get the basics down first.
@richardc488
@richardc488 5 жыл бұрын
Great job Neal, you always do great shows.I think the choice is how many dealers are their in the lower 48, so if something breaks can you get it fixed, I think pleasureway is lacking here.
@Ultramobility
@Ultramobility 5 жыл бұрын
Yeah they understand that. They allow you to take it to any RV repair shop and their warranty will cover any work they may need to be done. Good point.
@Shantamji
@Shantamji 3 жыл бұрын
Would you offer the same comparison for the 2020 Pleasure Way TS vs the same Airstream Interstate 19?
@ShiYuMeng2
@ShiYuMeng2 5 жыл бұрын
Have you looked at the VW Grand California 600? Its just under 6 meter which puts in the same class. It should be available in the EU for purchase soon.
@Ultramobility
@Ultramobility 5 жыл бұрын
i have not! will look into it!
@melisherwood9734
@melisherwood9734 3 жыл бұрын
Hi Neal, got a question re toilets..not keen on dealing with black water. What do you think of the possibility of having it converted to a composting one in the Ascent or similar Class B?
@JaniceLalla
@JaniceLalla 5 жыл бұрын
Good to know!
@Ultramobility
@Ultramobility 5 жыл бұрын
glad you found it useful!
@stjohnluxuryvillas6829
@stjohnluxuryvillas6829 5 жыл бұрын
Thank you for the review Neil. You are clearly bias for the Pleasure Way. So, I started watching another youtuber with one and started seeing all the problems they are having. Made me very concerned. There seems to be unsolvable problems with the PW fridge not staying cold. Heard it from many sources. I am wondering why the warrenty won't just replace it. Problems with the PW shades that are not automatic (like the Interstate). they don't seem to work going up and down. Plus they needed to add a new suspension package. I think I would prefer the 4x4. Since my husband is 6'2", we really like the fact that the toilet is at an angle. It feels a lot roomier. Plus the bed is longer for him. I also like all the extra usb ports and drink holders Airstream offer. I am not knowledgeable about the batteries. Sounds like the lithium might be better. Need to learn more about that. But after I did an item by item comparison, once you add the door shades, beautiful cabinets, solar and safety features with side camera, the Pleasure Way really is a lot higher price than the Airstream. That surprised me. I love your channel and have learned a lot from you. Due to our lifestyle and where we want to go, we are seriously wanting the 4x4. Any others than the Airstream with the 4x4?. looks at Revel, it was not our style. Still doing my homework. Thank you for all your help.
@bobshoe1
@bobshoe1 4 жыл бұрын
For the about the same money, buy an LTV. That is if the B+ isn't too big for you. Much better value, design and reliability.
@unclelar819
@unclelar819 5 жыл бұрын
I have looked at the Airstreams at shows numerous times. While I like the interior style, they just are too small. It appears that Airstream builds them for under 6 footers. The head room is always too short and the bathrooms are SO tiny. Especially for the price. At 6'5" I will keep looking.
@Ultramobility
@Ultramobility 5 жыл бұрын
@Uncle Lar - thanks for sharing your experience! it's hard to find a class B that accommodates people taller than 6'2". Maybe the National Explorer Trek?
@unclelar819
@unclelar819 5 жыл бұрын
@@Ultramobility Thanks! I have not seen that one but will check it out!
@colormedubious4747
@colormedubious4747 5 жыл бұрын
Look at B+ rigs like those offered by LTV or Regency. They tend to offer more headroom for us non-midgets.
@Ultramobility
@Ultramobility 5 жыл бұрын
Most class B+ rigs will have at least 6'5" of interior head room. The Plateau XL series has 6'8" in most parts of the coach. the rear bedroom area is 6'5".
@patrickmchargue7122
@patrickmchargue7122 4 жыл бұрын
With the Carado now an orphan, what other short wheelbase campervans are there? I'd prefer a shorter campervan, but am not as familiar with what's available. Thank you for your videos!
@pattyweiland4882
@pattyweiland4882 5 жыл бұрын
Will you please compare & contrast the PleasureWay Ascent and the PW Lexor? Thank you
@mz-wk4kb
@mz-wk4kb 4 жыл бұрын
Hi Neil. I love your channel! I have a question. There is a motorhome in Europe called Hymer Exsis-i 504, which isunder 20ft. And from my opinion, it has a perfect layout. I wonder if you can give us an introduction for Hymer Exsis-i 504, and I wonder why it is not on sale in the us. Many thanks!
@caseyxie1396
@caseyxie1396 4 жыл бұрын
我也有同样的问题。
@Ultramobility
@Ultramobility Жыл бұрын
thank you
@tjrothausen
@tjrothausen 5 жыл бұрын
Neil, Thanks for this. I love 19.5-footers! I could watch videos on them all day. But when are you going to review Sportsmobile!!? :-) I have owned a 19.5’ Sportsmobile since 2015 and I love it! Same Sprinter basics but fully customized and I even got to order the exact van color I wanted, and all for less $$ because I’m only paying for exactly what I want. Curious how you’d compare it to these two.
@Ultramobility
@Ultramobility 5 жыл бұрын
They have yet to get back to me. They responded and forwarded my request to their marketing department but nada. Email them!
@tjrothausen
@tjrothausen 5 жыл бұрын
Done!
@tjrothausen
@tjrothausen 5 жыл бұрын
Blue Finally Gets A Clue Sportsmobile doesn’t seem to want to play here. But they are fully customized.
@steveeriksen7351
@steveeriksen7351 5 жыл бұрын
Will you do a video on the 2020 Plateau models of the TS and FL? We have never used an RV before and are looking to rent one this fall to see if this is something that we want to get into. The 2 models are the vehicles that we are interested in. Thank you for any advice you'd have for us.
@Ultramobility
@Ultramobility 5 жыл бұрын
Yes I will.
@WizzRacing
@WizzRacing 2 жыл бұрын
What sells Pleasure Way.. Is Dean....
@chatter7653
@chatter7653 3 жыл бұрын
Having to ‘make’ the bed at the end of a long, tired day....every.single.night would get old. Give us other options
@48dlonra
@48dlonra 5 жыл бұрын
A few months back you reviewed the foreign made Atria camper van. The Atria is short. But it has that swivel bathroom. Dry bath/Wet bath. That can’t fit in either of these two vans?
@Ultramobility
@Ultramobility 5 жыл бұрын
it likely could with a layout change
@buzzzub8563
@buzzzub8563 3 жыл бұрын
Are either of these four-season?
@RERick
@RERick 5 жыл бұрын
How about heated tanks, insulated water lines and drain lines?
@kpeter02
@kpeter02 5 жыл бұрын
Hey Neil....any chance doing a full review on the Panoramic RV?
@Ultramobility
@Ultramobility 5 жыл бұрын
yes!
@thomasdarby6084
@thomasdarby6084 5 жыл бұрын
I really like the Ascent. But Pleasure-Way has ticked me off for a few reasons: One, in spite of their "stall" production, they won't make ANY deviations from their product specifications. For example, I asked about why the "copper" interior (like yours) is no longer available, and was told it was just a production change. When I wrote back offering to pay extra for it, I was basically blown off by their representative named Grant. Pleasure-Way offers two basic pale-looking interior colors, and only white or silver exteriors. They also went to the flimsy magnetic screens instead of the neat sliding ones, and the retro MCD roller shades which I had in my bedroom in 1955. I just expect more choices at this price point. Pleasure-Way is unwilling to accommodate the customer, and in spite of their great warranty, and the poor Coachmen one, I'm going with the Galleria 24A. Just more for my money, and great construction.
@Ultramobility
@Ultramobility 5 жыл бұрын
@Thomas Darby - thanks for sharing your experience with others. The Galleria 24A is a nice coach. Be aware of the 1 year warranty and shake down as much as possible that first year. With regards to the copper interior - i love it too and don't understand why they don't make it. I don't like the new interior colors as much. the new Corian "concrete" colors are not good in my book. However, I like the MCD shades and screens ALOT. I've had non-MCD shades and the MCD shades just work great and are simple. the sliding screens for me just collect grit and start to jam up. bad design choice for an RV in my opinion.
@Michael-pu3yw
@Michael-pu3yw 5 жыл бұрын
@@Ultramobility Those Rolef screens are much better than sliding screens as they are always a problem due to the tracks.
@BradSells
@BradSells 4 жыл бұрын
I am in the market for a 19 ft RV. You own an ascent. Would you agree that it is the best out there and worth the extra $50,000 over a Zion SRT, as an example?
@pastmacrolwmin
@pastmacrolwmin 5 жыл бұрын
What is your take on all the talk about problems with the MB Sprinter engine and chassis? I have heard about a lot of problems and no real fixes from MB. Engine lights and DEF problems etc. What is your opinion on this situation? Thank you.
@Ultramobility
@Ultramobility 5 жыл бұрын
i have owned 2 diesel sprinters and have not had a problem. i don't think it is a widespread problem. not saying there aren't individuals out there who haven't had problems and may be vocal about it but i haven't had any problems and I haven't heard from a lot of owners that have had any problems. my sprinter has been rock solid.
@pastmacrolwmin
@pastmacrolwmin 5 жыл бұрын
Thank you for the quick response. I drove diesels for many years and loved them but that was before and up to 2010. I now have seen there are many differences than then and with some of what I have read it was making me a little worried about going with that and not opting for a gas powered Lexor. But this will help me again reconsider my first thoughts on the MB series. They are by far the best looking of the two series.
@Ultramobility
@Ultramobility 5 жыл бұрын
@Randy McGehee - here's my 2 cents. Fleet operators like Amazon would not be buying up all the stock of the diesel Sprinter right now if there were any hints of problems with that engine. they just have too many in their fleet and it would cost them. so i use all the fleet operators that continue to purchase the sprinter as my gauge. it's a reliable, capable and robust platform in my book.
@marjoriehall9984
@marjoriehall9984 5 жыл бұрын
@@Ultramobility I have wondered about the diesel/DEF issue many times--I love the short sprinter but I'm always held back because of the cost and potential issues. I have been on a FB group for the Revel and it seems there are some issues just related to the 4x4 (though all the owners love that capability). I think there are always tradeoffs but the new sprinter design that now comes standard with the 7-speed has really caught my interest again.
@jordanmiller9931
@jordanmiller9931 5 жыл бұрын
Do you think PW will offer the Ascent in a gas version by 2020? If so, would it be worth the wait for a gas model vs a diesel? Worried about visiting the Nt Parks where the correct diesel may be an issue to get. Your thoughts please?
@Ultramobility
@Ultramobility 5 жыл бұрын
I'm seeing their CEO next week and will ask. I doubt it. I hear it is hard to get and may not be powerful enough for an RV conversion.
@LACountyDHSDiabetesDay
@LACountyDHSDiabetesDay 3 жыл бұрын
Great comparison. An update would be appreciated. I have an Airstream 19' 4x4 on order and I took a look at the Agile for the first time today. I was disappointed in the bathroom size, the ease of making the bed and not having a good screen on main entry door. I also worry about the ground clearance off of paved roads. These are two great contenders and the decision is a personal choice based on your needs.
@g.3046
@g.3046 2 жыл бұрын
For $150,000+ Premium Class B Camper Van, I expect all-wheel drive that Airstream Interstate 19 has and very surprised Pleasureway Ascent does not have.
@dmorean
@dmorean 5 жыл бұрын
Hi Neil. I just traded in my Tiffin Allegro Breeze class A deisel pusher for an Ascent. Have you heard of anyone who has upgraded the lithium battery pack? I'd like to get it up to 800 ah so I can run the AC off batteries for a while..
@48dlonra
@48dlonra 5 жыл бұрын
Is it possible to have either one of these RVs customized for a SEPARATE shower stall? I fully dislike wet baths.
@Ultramobility
@Ultramobility 5 жыл бұрын
no unfortunately not. there's not enough room.
@LibbyRal
@LibbyRal 4 жыл бұрын
Raise you hand if you want to sit in front of a bathroom the entire time you're driving. Pew!
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