The Tragedy of Snow White's Voice Actress

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Today J dives into Disney's history to discuss the tragedy of Snow Whites Voice Actress Adriana Caselotti.
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@SuperCarlinBrothers
@SuperCarlinBrothers 3 жыл бұрын
OK but like... they can totally add one more black screen right?!
@breda-lee7201
@breda-lee7201 3 жыл бұрын
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@Adrex-iq4hx
@Adrex-iq4hx 3 жыл бұрын
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@amazianofficial
@amazianofficial 3 жыл бұрын
This channel has gotten me through quarantine
@deztineefernandes6278
@deztineefernandes6278 3 жыл бұрын
I feel like this will make sense when I finish the video
@Kingdjstu
@Kingdjstu 3 жыл бұрын
SuperCarlinBrothers now I’m going to watch it lol
@Thomas_H._Smith
@Thomas_H._Smith 3 жыл бұрын
Cinderella's voice actress, Ilene Woods, also has a tragic story. She was living it up until old age when she was diagnosed with Alzheimer's, and she completely forgot that she voiced Cinderella. However she still found "A Dream is a Wish Your Heart Makes" so soothing despite not recognizing that it was her voice, so the nurses at her nursing home in Canoga Park, played it as often as possible for her because they knew she liked it so much. Until she passed away on July 1st 2010, at age 81. (Edit): Also, Woods didn't even really audition for Cinderella. As it turns out she was a good friend of Mack David and Jerry Livingston, the song writers of Cinderella, and they asked her to record the songs as a demo reel for Walt. However when Walt heard her singing he absolutely fell in love with her voice, and said "I want her to be voice of Cinderella." She was given the part and her life was changed forever. So really she got the part by accident.
@rayw.6677
@rayw.6677 3 жыл бұрын
Awww, that’s so sad, yet so sweet. 😢❤️
@Hessed3712
@Hessed3712 3 жыл бұрын
😞
@mysteriousmsf
@mysteriousmsf 3 жыл бұрын
As that’s so so sad but she died on my birthday
@Angryginger2421
@Angryginger2421 3 жыл бұрын
Oh god that is sad
@alexisdowers2030
@alexisdowers2030 3 жыл бұрын
Aw.......😩😭
@kathrynandkandi9165
@kathrynandkandi9165 3 жыл бұрын
Man she got the short end of the stick of voice acting
@OriginalPiMan
@OriginalPiMan 3 жыл бұрын
As made clear in the video, every voice acting stick was short then.
@TheHeston83
@TheHeston83 3 жыл бұрын
why i dont think there different from any other Actor on The Stage Or Screen
@Fiyera
@Fiyera 3 жыл бұрын
Stick? More like twig... the worlds smallest twig...
@ggt47
@ggt47 3 жыл бұрын
...yes...
@growingupwithdisney
@growingupwithdisney 3 жыл бұрын
Poor girl deserved better, they got nerves to not let her talk/act in other stuff. It ain’t like they gave her a lifetime worth of money either, she should’ve gotten more:/
@sezzac155
@sezzac155 3 жыл бұрын
I kinda understand them not allowing her to talk/act in other stuff, that is a value that Disney holds keeping the magic alive in the same way magicians have the magicians code. But you would think that she would be paid extra at least to prevent temptation. She did deserve better. One black screen with her name, c'mon.
@imaginefun13
@imaginefun13 3 жыл бұрын
Right? Like what exactly was in her contract for her to 1. Agree not to voice anything else ever, and 2. Think it's worth it to follow that contract for the rest of her life!
@Rachel-uy7pv
@Rachel-uy7pv 3 жыл бұрын
ikrrr
@officialmichaelcarrasco
@officialmichaelcarrasco 3 жыл бұрын
A lot of false information and assumptions here.
@growingupwithdisney
@growingupwithdisney 3 жыл бұрын
@@officialmichaelcarrasco then elaborate cuz I don’t get it
@giorgishautidze496
@giorgishautidze496 3 жыл бұрын
I just had a major realization. Disney finally started crediting voice actors in 1943. This date is of significance because, just a year before, James C. Petrillo, the head of the music union (who controlled the recording licenses of bands) called a strike, where no one in a band could record music. Because of this, 1942 was the year vocalists finally got the recognition they deserved, since they weren’t a part of the the music union, so they could record songs without legal trouble. By the time the strike ended 2 years later, the public’s perception of vocalists had changed; instead of concerts being “X band featuring Y singer”, it became, for example, “Frank Sinatra featuring x band”. I know singers and voice actors aren’t one in the same, but this shift in public perception of a vocalist’s importance in a piece of work directly led to Walt crediting the voice actors in his film. Thank you for coming to my TED talk.
@KnobleSloth
@KnobleSloth 3 жыл бұрын
How does one "realize" this. I think you meant to say, "I just had a major Google search".
@giorgishautidze496
@giorgishautidze496 3 жыл бұрын
Robert Mills I took a jazz history class bud. I googled when Disney started crediting voice actors, and I made a connection between that and my prior knowledge of the music industry.
@TheGoingcrazygirl
@TheGoingcrazygirl 3 жыл бұрын
Giorgi Shautidze this is super interesting! Thanks for sharing (:
@joakuz
@joakuz 3 жыл бұрын
Giorgi Shautidze Wow that’s interesting!
@Rachel-uy7pv
@Rachel-uy7pv 3 жыл бұрын
yh
@lloyddragon2036
@lloyddragon2036 3 жыл бұрын
"make sure you pay people for their work" THIS IS SPECIFICALLY DIRECTED AT PEOPLE WHO THINK THEY'RE ENTITLED TO AN ARTIST'S (SPECIFICALLY SPECIFICALLY DIGITAL ARTISTS' ) WORK WITH LITTLE TO NO COMMISSION. SAY IT WITH ME: ARTISTS' TIME AND WORK IS VALUABLE.
@TaliesinMyrddin
@TaliesinMyrddin 3 жыл бұрын
"For exposure" is professional abuse.
@tessat338
@tessat338 3 жыл бұрын
@@TaliesinMyrddin "Exposure" is a cause of death, not a reason to work for no money.
@JosephDavies
@JosephDavies 3 жыл бұрын
Oh, there's nothing new in this behaviour for "digital" artists. Undervaluing art and doing work "for the exposure" are time-tested and well-worn, sadly. :(
@Chaimelo
@Chaimelo 3 жыл бұрын
Thank you! People really think "digital" art means the computer just does it for you lol
@jaygemklocx2578
@jaygemklocx2578 3 жыл бұрын
Thank you friend. ✊😔
@waverider6302
@waverider6302 3 жыл бұрын
Walt: were making a feature length cartoon Other guy: a FeAtUrE lEnGtH cArToOn?!
@lloyddragon2036
@lloyddragon2036 3 жыл бұрын
the expression in his voice and face too was almost full of doubt like, yeah right, that can't be done. and Walt was like ok- listen- i know it sounds crazy, but i'm Walt Disney ok just watch me
@d.rabbitwhite
@d.rabbitwhite 3 жыл бұрын
Surprised that walt didn't get it correct. A cartoon is drawing, usually the pre painting drawing; see DaVinci, Michelangelo, etc. What walt was making was animated cartoons. PS if one really wants to get hoity toity about things animation was always a plural. Animators did put an s on the end. That came about with the computer programs allowing any old non artist to try to make art, and it stuck. But you know purists will still claim that real animators do not put an s on the end of animation.
@Thomas_H._Smith
@Thomas_H._Smith 3 жыл бұрын
Fun Fact: To create the ehco effect during the song "I'm Wishing" the sound department hung a microphone inside of a toilet in the women's bathroom, then played the audio recording so that it sounded like it was echoing in the well.
@luthientinuviel3883
@luthientinuviel3883 3 жыл бұрын
No wonder I sounded so good singing that in the bathroom.
@Zenith_682
@Zenith_682 3 жыл бұрын
Well, that ruins the amazing songs...
@Zenith_682
@Zenith_682 3 жыл бұрын
And I like how you add the part “women’s bathroom” and not just bathroom
@Thomas_H._Smith
@Thomas_H._Smith 3 жыл бұрын
@@Zenith_682 that's right. Because it was late and most of the female staff had already gone home.
@RobertVlcek
@RobertVlcek 3 жыл бұрын
Fascinating... And reminds me of Sean Connery who read the introduction lines of Highlander while sitting on the toilet. 🤣
@AverytheCubanAmerican
@AverytheCubanAmerican 3 жыл бұрын
Seeing Auli'i's reaction as she realized what they were doing was a hoax to tell her that she got the part was honestly wholesome. And she is indeed the perfect Moana
@luthientinuviel3883
@luthientinuviel3883 3 жыл бұрын
She even looks like her in real life! What a talented queen.
@arielsteinsaltz1956
@arielsteinsaltz1956 3 жыл бұрын
@@luthientinuviel3883 Disney usually designs the characters off of the voice actors.
@eitmrnbiwbo
@eitmrnbiwbo 3 жыл бұрын
Auli'i is part hawaiian i think
@lindseysquire8417
@lindseysquire8417 3 жыл бұрын
While we're talking about tragic voice actors, we need to talk about Marni Nixon. She was an incredible singer who did voice overs for actresses in movie musicals in the 50s and 60s; most notably, she dubbed over Natalie Wood as Maria in West Side Story, Deborah Kerr as Anna in The King and I, and Audrey Hepburn as Eliza in My Fair Lady. She herself played one of the nuns in The Sound of Music (Julie Andrews was basically the only actress back then that Marni didn't have to dub over). Despite all of this incredible work, for most of her career, no one knew who she was. There were times when she would ask the producers for credit, and they refused; for most of her career, her beautiful singing voice was not known to be hers (she was grossly underpaid and her name was usually left out of the credits). She even dubbed over the singing voice of child actor Margaret O'Brien in Frances Hodgson Burnett’s The Secret Garden (1949). Four years later, she sang the high notes Marilyn Monroe couldn’t quite reach in ‘Diamonds are a Girl’s Best Friend’ in the 1953 movie Gentlemen Prefer Blondes. They would even force her to sign contracts that she would not reveal her part in productions, lest she be barred from work. Luckily, thanks to Deborah Kerr, she was recognized to an extent, but she should have been a household name, like the women she sang for. It's up to us to keep her name alive (she passed away in 2016 at the age of 86).
@miriamrosemary9110
@miriamrosemary9110 3 жыл бұрын
I was horrified the first time I heard about her. I grew up on many of those musicals and loved them dearly. I'd try to sing like her for hours, having no idea it's her. I thought it was the actresses I saw on screen. I couldn't believe that she had such an impact on my life and got no credit for it... She truly deserves better.
@CM-pf1xc
@CM-pf1xc 3 жыл бұрын
They actually show this practice, and kind of marnis sorry in plot of singing in the rain
@berengustav7714
@berengustav7714 3 жыл бұрын
@@CM-pf1xc Right, that's what I thought of, Kathy Selden.
@TheSoundOfGeorgia
@TheSoundOfGeorgia 3 жыл бұрын
Yikes! As the die-hard Sound of Music fan I am, I knew that she dubbed just about everyone who couldn't sing back then, but not how much, nor that she was barely credited for most of it (since she's in the credits for Sound of Music.) If I remember correctly, they called her 'The Phantom Dubber', and boy, if this is what happened, then it's a tragically appropriate title. I never thought I'd see a comment about Marni Nixon on an SCB video.
@officialmichaelcarrasco
@officialmichaelcarrasco 3 жыл бұрын
She ASLO sang for Anita/Rita who won an Oscar for not performing the full role in the musical. Hollywood. 🙄
@therealyounggun5316
@therealyounggun5316 3 жыл бұрын
Whenever I see the words “ the tragedy” I immediately think of Darth plagueis.
@That_Thicc_Cat
@That_Thicc_Cat 3 жыл бұрын
Same
@smolzeg7446
@smolzeg7446 3 жыл бұрын
the wise
@KamalAdnanTheFirst
@KamalAdnanTheFirst 3 жыл бұрын
Same
@hondoohnaka6308
@hondoohnaka6308 3 жыл бұрын
I must say I think of the same lightsaber wielding maniac whenever I hear “tragedy of”
@JonahStubbs
@JonahStubbs 3 жыл бұрын
Did you ever hear the tragedy of Darth Plagueis the Wise?
@xAbbieCx13
@xAbbieCx13 3 жыл бұрын
This is such a heartbreaking story, nobody would ever be treated this way these days and get away with it. She deserved so much better. Thank you for making this video, I hope that Disney credit her after this, it's the least she deserves.
@ghostofyaz
@ghostofyaz 3 жыл бұрын
Agreed
@officialmichaelcarrasco
@officialmichaelcarrasco 3 жыл бұрын
You are missing a lot of information. kzfaq.info/get/bejne/hd2IZLCEksnaaHU.html
@kristiyu2575
@kristiyu2575 3 жыл бұрын
Did you ever hear the tragedy of Adriana Caselotti? I thought not. It's not a story the Mouse would tell you.
@richardclark2495
@richardclark2495 3 жыл бұрын
Your comment legit has 66 likes right now! Nobody else "like" it! It is too perfect!
@savannahwestover2538
@savannahwestover2538 3 жыл бұрын
Is it possible to learn this tale?
@richardclark2495
@richardclark2495 3 жыл бұрын
Blast. Someone ruined it.
@PhilBagels
@PhilBagels 3 жыл бұрын
Mentioning the Mouse brings up an interesting point: In regular cartoons in those days, the voice actors often weren't a big deal anyway. In the early days of animations, they'd get anyone they could find to do a funny voice. Sometimes it would be one of the people who was already involved in the production, so you didn't necessarily have to pay them any additional money. Established characters would have regular voice actors with recognizable character voices, but they never really thought of it as all that important, perhaps because cartoons were already well-known before there were "talkies" at all.
@Rachel-uy7pv
@Rachel-uy7pv 3 жыл бұрын
lol
@mercyxmutual
@mercyxmutual 3 жыл бұрын
There’s more Disney history pumping through my veins than blood
@blitzwinger999wright6
@blitzwinger999wright6 3 жыл бұрын
You too? ;-;
@kaleemarie13
@kaleemarie13 3 жыл бұрын
I felt this in my soul. Can I tell anyone where some Hidden Mickey's are or how the dancing ghosts of the Haunted Mansion appear and disappear before your eyes or What Makes the Red Man Red or even the lore behind the Society of Explorers and Adventurers and how they tie basically all of the Disney parks together? *Yes.* Can I tell you how to turn fractions into percentages, how to fix a flat tire, or show you how to do a simple science experiment: *Nope!*
@MuzicIzLife01
@MuzicIzLife01 3 жыл бұрын
In 1995 I actually got to meet her. Granted I was only 1 so I dont remember it but she took pics with me and my family and even autographed this piece of paper with a message for me. To this day I have it framed and hanging in my room :)
@taylamartin6523
@taylamartin6523 3 жыл бұрын
J: Say her name with me! Me: aww yeah I definitely know her name... Me: Me: wait
@maria-andreanivongalvez7209
@maria-andreanivongalvez7209 3 жыл бұрын
I feel so horrible for her🥺 I’m sure she appreciates this video from wherever she is!!!
@haewonchoi2752
@haewonchoi2752 3 жыл бұрын
She’s singing in the clouds now. With her heavenly voice.
@JesusChrist-bx8ge
@JesusChrist-bx8ge 3 жыл бұрын
Yea she dead now boi
@satan6412
@satan6412 3 жыл бұрын
@@JesusChrist-bx8ge HI JESUS! HAIL SATAN ⸸
@kaylamarie8338
@kaylamarie8338 3 жыл бұрын
Three different kinds of people🤣
@rainbowkidbest
@rainbowkidbest 3 жыл бұрын
@@kaylamarie8338 yep.
@coolnerdlll6053
@coolnerdlll6053 3 жыл бұрын
I was waiting the whole time for a mention of Caselotti's part in The Wizard of Oz. I was not disappointed.
@sircallaghan7846
@sircallaghan7846 3 жыл бұрын
You guys really need to sort the Disney princesses into their Hogwarts house
@bolt7047
@bolt7047 3 жыл бұрын
That would be cool
@richardclark2495
@richardclark2495 3 жыл бұрын
That's a heck ton of Gryffindors and Hufflepuffs right there. . . And then one Ravenclaw (Rapunzel) and one Slytherin (Moana).
@emilyfisher7060
@emilyfisher7060 3 жыл бұрын
Belle - Ravenclaw Mulan - Gryffindor Rapunzel - Slytherin Moana - Gryffindor Elsa - Slytherin Anna - Hufflepuff Tiana - Slytherin Pocahontas - Hufflepuff Ariel - IDFK I feel like she’d be a hat stall. Jasmine - Ravenclaw or Slytherin Merida - Gryffindor (I mean her movie is called Brave so like.) The ladies that DESERVE princesship and haven’t gotten it: Jane - Ravenclaw, obviously. (IYKYK) Meg - Bad*ss Hufflepuff, or Gryffindor Then Snow White, Cinderella, and Aurora have no personalities therefore no house. I love them, but there isn’t much to work with. I’d probably clump them into Hufflepuff because all of them are supposed to be really caring and stuff. But like being ladies is basically their only personality trait.
@annajoseph9321
@annajoseph9321 3 жыл бұрын
yesssssssss
@ActiveAdvocate1
@ActiveAdvocate1 3 жыл бұрын
Your House is supposed to be about the trait in which you have the most faith, so Ariel is a Gryffindor, definitely, because look at how brave she had to be to take that leap. Snow White I'm claiming for my proud Hufflepuff because she's loyal to a fault with the dwarves and isn't afraid of working hard to earn her keep, and same for Cinderella, who, by the way, never even aspired to be a princess. That was dumb luck, because she didn't even know who she was dancing with. Aurora...nope. Hatstall, definitely. She has NO personality. At least Snow White and Cinderella TALK in their stories. Aurora, not so much. She just sings and looks pretty. Again, though, doesn't aspire to be a princess, so it can't be Slytherin, but she doesn't have enough of brain for it to be Ravenclaw or enough of a spine for it to be Gryffindor or Hufflepuff. Hufflepuffs are, in my opinion, just as brave as Gryffindors, but for different reasons. Gryfgfindors fight to attack (usually). Hufflepuffs fight to defend (usually).
@kathrynandkandi9165
@kathrynandkandi9165 3 жыл бұрын
I love the stories of casting
@amazianofficial
@amazianofficial 3 жыл бұрын
Yeah
@rachdiva
@rachdiva 2 жыл бұрын
Me too
@amyhleigh
@amyhleigh 3 жыл бұрын
They underpaid her for the job, stopped her from getting any other jobs after that one, and wouldn’t even credit her for the work she did do. Disney is disgusting
@undead.rising
@undead.rising 3 жыл бұрын
And we are talking about the man himself, Walt Disney.
@indyfmw
@indyfmw 3 жыл бұрын
Undead Rising both?
@Taydar
@Taydar 3 жыл бұрын
No it's not. That was just common practice. You got paid for your work at a fair and standard rate, not based upon the ending success of the product.
@niamhrtditchfield2348
@niamhrtditchfield2348 3 жыл бұрын
No it was disgusting, so was everything else, this was almost 90 years ago, disney is acctually a really great place to work
@Taydar
@Taydar 3 жыл бұрын
@@niamhrtditchfield2348 not really. She got paid what she agreed to. Nobody could know how well the project would do. Most people dont get paid better or worse depending on how well the business is doing. Its normal.
@Sam_on_YouTube
@Sam_on_YouTube 3 жыл бұрын
The actress who played Moana got bonked in the head in front of literally a billion people and didn't drop a note. The video from the Oscars is great. How bad did that backup dancer feel?
@imaginefun13
@imaginefun13 3 жыл бұрын
Omg I completely forgot about that! That was hilarious!
@Korobooshii
@Korobooshii 3 жыл бұрын
I noticed in the article you showed at 10:18 that Caselottis fourth husband was named Florian - which is what The Prince is named these days. So, unless it is The Prince named after Snow Whites real-life husband? Or is it just a massive coincidence? Either way, that is pretty cool.
@highclass_lady
@highclass_lady 3 жыл бұрын
That home video VHS case sure brings back childhood memories for the 90s kids
@rayw.6677
@rayw.6677 3 жыл бұрын
I still have all mine at the top of my closet. Some still have dog bite marks on them. I just don’t have the heart to get rid of them.
@brennan8930
@brennan8930 3 жыл бұрын
Walt Disney: "We're making a feature-length cartoon" Guy: "A feature-length cartoon?!?" Walt Disney, the genius who would eventually change the world in so many ways, from Movies to Theme Parks to Everyday Life, with Synchronised sound, full color, WED, and so much more: "Yes"
@sparkpotter
@sparkpotter 3 жыл бұрын
Lol also I love your profile pic!
@brennan8930
@brennan8930 3 жыл бұрын
@@sparkpotter I like yours too!
@lifeofmocha3056
@lifeofmocha3056 3 жыл бұрын
Potterheads unite!!
@lloyddragon2036
@lloyddragon2036 3 жыл бұрын
imagine going back in time and showing Walt Disney Disney+ on a phone, i like to imagine he would cry of happiness
@lloyddragon2036
@lloyddragon2036 3 жыл бұрын
Ravenclaw squad ✌🏻💙🧡
@HighlandViolinist
@HighlandViolinist 3 жыл бұрын
Wow, the story of Caselotti is really tragic! I'd be so angry if I wasn't allowed to do other jobs after one underpaid gig. As a person in the creative arts, I'm so glad things are different now!
@niamhrtditchfield2348
@niamhrtditchfield2348 3 жыл бұрын
That very much depends what company you work for
@HighlandViolinist
@HighlandViolinist 3 жыл бұрын
@@niamhrtditchfield2348 sure, nowadays when an actor works for disney there are still restrictions on what other jobs they can get because disney has to keep up a reputation. It especially happens for actors who play child characters. But once the contract ends, they're allowed to audition for any other role they want. Can you imagine no longer working for disney and still not allowed to audition for other roles for the rest of your life?
@niamhrtditchfield2348
@niamhrtditchfield2348 3 жыл бұрын
@@HighlandViolinist it definitely still happens, not with disney tho, and not really in the western world either, so you wont have to worry about it. I'm in theatre training atm aswell
@ggt47
@ggt47 3 жыл бұрын
...yes...
@thunderbird1921
@thunderbird1921 3 жыл бұрын
Nowadays, Disney just steals stories or obtains, changes them and deceptively markets them under the name of the original novel or work. Walt Disney Studios: Mistreating workers, ruining stories and stealing ideas since 1927.
@philipportelli7700
@philipportelli7700 3 жыл бұрын
When the first silent movies were introduced, there were no acting credits. That's what producers wanted so no one could get popular and ask for more money. Obviously it didn't work. What was the first Disney animated movie with voice credits?
@DaRozeman
@DaRozeman 3 жыл бұрын
Pinocchio, iirc.
@musearrives2am
@musearrives2am 3 жыл бұрын
Its actually a harder question then you would think. Because after Snow White WW2 started and essentially Disney was forced to move back to shorter animations or create longer movies consisting of a range of various shorts and musical segments like Melody Time or Fun And Fancy Free. These are a little harder to tell who was working in the film as often they where drafted halfway into the project and those few employees that were left simply pieced together the usable parts into semi coherent narratives. Then came Cinderella in 1950 who was not only the next princess story but also the first full length animated film to consist of a single story since Snow White. Of which, the voice actor of Cinderella, Ilene Woods, was listed in the opening credits. (Though it did not specify her role as Cinderalla, it did state her name first.) So what changed? There was actually a Union Muscians strike a few years after Snow White in 1942-44 where the the Union forced a recording ban on any material where the vocalist and musicians where not given royalties to and credited. Long story short, the record companies were eventually forced to give in. Shortly after (for some reason) many of these vocalists and musicians who were part of this strike, such as the likes of Glen Miller, Bing Crosby and Frank Sinatra rose in fame into becoming household names. The results of which reached Disney's stage when, at the time where Disney Films were more musical-based, Bing Crosby plays the role of narrator and singer in "Icabod and Mr Toad" in 1949 in which he is credited.
@peregrined
@peregrined 3 жыл бұрын
"Voice of Snow White" in the credits at the end of the video. Amazing
@jeaugust
@jeaugust 3 жыл бұрын
The more I learn about Walt Disney, the less I like Walt Disney.
@hondoohnaka6308
@hondoohnaka6308 3 жыл бұрын
I never liked Disney they messed my appearance up in rebels.
@JonahStubbs
@JonahStubbs 3 жыл бұрын
Hondo Ohnaka They also messed up Star Wars in general
@celestebivin1659
@celestebivin1659 3 жыл бұрын
I agree, what he did to this woman was absolutely wrong and unethical. and if he was going to stop her from working he should have insured that she would not want for money.
@EL-ISS
@EL-ISS 3 жыл бұрын
@@celestebivin1659 if this is the worst you think Walt Disney has done. I implore you to look up books about his life or at least the wiki. Walt wasn't the best of men, he was cutthroat.
@irtwiaos
@irtwiaos 3 жыл бұрын
Walt was a class S A-hole like evey successful businessman that created multi billion dollar companies.
@DrRank
@DrRank 3 жыл бұрын
Fun fact: Caselotti is referenced in Enchanted as the name of the news reporter. Cinderella and Aurora's actresses are also referenced by her.
@zhazhagab0r
@zhazhagab0r 3 жыл бұрын
Paige O'Hara (Belle), Jodi Benson (Ariel), and Judy Kuhn (Pocahontas) also have bit parts. That movie is a gold mine!
@haihai9022
@haihai9022 3 жыл бұрын
@@zhazhagab0r Not to mention Idina Menzel, 6 years before she was Elsa.
@voidsthread
@voidsthread 8 ай бұрын
yasss!! the reporter’s name is a combination of all three of the original trio’s names, Mary Ilene Caselotti 💗💗💗
@colinjudson9967
@colinjudson9967 3 жыл бұрын
Last time I was this early Umbridge was nice Oh, Wait...
@katiewright3309
@katiewright3309 3 жыл бұрын
This comment made me snort laugh.
@blitzwinger999wright6
@blitzwinger999wright6 3 жыл бұрын
I’ve said it once, I’ll say it again. Umbridge never got any real comeuppance. Sure the centaurs probably did some...questionable things to her, but I feel like Azkaban ain’t got sh*t on this old bat. She has no happy memories.
@The_chosen_one23
@The_chosen_one23 3 жыл бұрын
KZfaq getting real comfortable with these double ads.
@quinnhouk5369
@quinnhouk5369 3 жыл бұрын
I know
@Sulejmani123
@Sulejmani123 3 жыл бұрын
Laughs in overpriced KZfaq premium
@quinnhouk5369
@quinnhouk5369 3 жыл бұрын
Toni Sulemani lol
@matthewwriter9539
@matthewwriter9539 3 жыл бұрын
She wasn't even invited to the movie premiere?!?
@helloimarabbit4083
@helloimarabbit4083 3 жыл бұрын
Ikr!?
@nainasingh203
@nainasingh203 3 жыл бұрын
Ikr It's super rude😞 but idk why whevever I hear "Didn't get invitation " the only thing comes to my mind is Maleficent lol
@beeginger7979
@beeginger7979 3 жыл бұрын
I believe they did not credit the voice actors to keep the illusion of the reality of the characters, like how Disneyland characters cannot be seen acting out of character in the parks.
@tyffanii1
@tyffanii1 3 жыл бұрын
Walt Disney seems like a petty ex boyfriend, telling his ex to never be in anything.
@JosephDavies
@JosephDavies 3 жыл бұрын
From reading about his life, I get the impression that he took the integrity of the art quite seriously, and applied that to how he approached it as a business. Unfortunately, that led to things like that which are quite clearly ethically dubious at best. If you're going to demand exclusivity from your talent, you need to offer them equity. He had many admirable traits, and sometimes treated his employees quite well, but overall his attitudes toward labor were not very positive and he could hold a grudge if he felt betrayed by those who worked for him. He is a fascinating, nuanced figure to study.
@Black-Swan-007
@Black-Swan-007 3 жыл бұрын
I knew that she was forbidden from lending her voice to other characters, but I didn't know she was (and remains) uncredited and severely underpaid. How sad.
@tokyodeathghoul2313
@tokyodeathghoul2313 3 жыл бұрын
The Walt Disney Coporation needs to seriously make a HUGE apology to her, starting with honoring her in a big way and let her name be known, as well as giving her family the money she deserved since she's sadly passed.
@wolf2912
@wolf2912 4 ай бұрын
In 1995 she became a Disney legend
@sophiacooper1321
@sophiacooper1321 3 жыл бұрын
Wow I can’t believe 1 the voice actress for Snow White was never ever listed on any of the Snow White products and movies And 2 I can’t believe that the directors of Moana created a fake audition By the way this. Video was super interesting and I loved it!
@blakdeth
@blakdeth 3 жыл бұрын
why wasn't putting voice actors in the credits common practice? here's my theory: *1930s voice*. *puts out cigar*. voice actors ain't real people see? they're sounds effects. ya wouldn't credit a slide whistle or a trash can would ya?
@HiddeneyeInc
@HiddeneyeInc 3 жыл бұрын
Voice or radio actors where huge in the 30's-60's but they were paid peanuts compared to screen actors. Their pay was by the number of words or lines. Some times weekly. Radio plays were huge but the voice actors were paid $20-100 an episode or per line, if they had a big part more if they were a movie star on loan from the production company. Bing Crosby was paid a staggering $8000 a week for his show. While Lucille Ball started at $500 a week and fought for more ending with a pay around $9500 a week by the end of her show my favorite husband. As a fan of classic radio shows you can Google radio spirits and lean a ton about it. They go in depth about a number of the hardships radio actors dealt with during that time. Many actors who got their start in radio plays were left uncredited in the shows women and children especially. Actors who had distinct voices were blocked often by the parent company preventing them from working for anyone else. Production studios felt they owned everything of an actor from voice to likeness. Even taking early cartoon companies to court over characters that resembled famous actors. Walt was no exception to this. He was dead set on owning his voice actors voices.
@ggt47
@ggt47 3 жыл бұрын
...yes...
@breda-lee7201
@breda-lee7201 3 жыл бұрын
Him: *_".....First feature length animated movie ever! and in color? and it had sound?!......"_* Me: **watches this video on my phone not even paying attention that I can hear, see, and enjoy this like no problem** What!? 79 likes?! Since when!? I was gone for a 1 and a half hours then came back to this! Thanks so much guys!!!
@lloyddragon2036
@lloyddragon2036 3 жыл бұрын
ikr imagine going back in time and showing these people Disney+ on a phone
@lloyddragon2036
@lloyddragon2036 3 жыл бұрын
dang when you think about it like that it's kind of insane
@breda-lee7201
@breda-lee7201 3 жыл бұрын
@@lloyddragon2036 isn't it!? We are quite privileged
@TheBestUFC
@TheBestUFC 3 жыл бұрын
Oh I actually get a notification for once 😂
@SuperCarlinBrothers
@SuperCarlinBrothers 3 жыл бұрын
Glad to hear it!
@DraconiaDrawing
@DraconiaDrawing 3 жыл бұрын
I know right I never get theirs or the theorizers
@sparkpotter
@sparkpotter 3 жыл бұрын
I used to never get them then I got a new tracfone and I do now
@TheBestUFC
@TheBestUFC 3 жыл бұрын
✨wow u responded! Keep up the great work!✨
@dianaoflesbos6197
@dianaoflesbos6197 3 жыл бұрын
Someone needs to figure out the longest intro they’ve done. Because they’ve been really long lately. I mean this one was exactly 2 minutes
@user-cr5uu8mf7i
@user-cr5uu8mf7i 3 жыл бұрын
• AwkwardAlien • ill do my research what are you counting though? like from the video starts until the start of the theory or no
@janaewoolley
@janaewoolley 3 жыл бұрын
@@user-cr5uu8mf7i I think they mean beginning of video to the intro animation since that time was 2 min
@user-cr5uu8mf7i
@user-cr5uu8mf7i 3 жыл бұрын
Janae Woolley ohhhh okay
@dianaoflesbos6197
@dianaoflesbos6197 3 жыл бұрын
Janae Woolley That is what I meant, thank you
@limalicious
@limalicious 3 жыл бұрын
I already knew about the story because I asked my parents when I was a little kid if the lady who did her voice ever did anything else, so my dad told me. =
@miriamrosemary9110
@miriamrosemary9110 3 жыл бұрын
I found out from my mother, who told me the story after I was gawking in amazement at how incredibly high Snow White's voice could get.
@SeanMcGuire92
@SeanMcGuire92 3 жыл бұрын
As a huge Wizard of Oz nerd as well as a Disney nerd, I already knew this about Adriana Caselotti. But seeing her later in life and really amicably embracing her role as Snow White... that warmed my heart.
@cece4855
@cece4855 3 жыл бұрын
Loved that they added credits to this video!!!!
@samurai_panda
@samurai_panda 3 жыл бұрын
"After days and days of searching, on the very last day, the very last person gets the role" Yeah, that's a cool story but I mean, it is the last person on the last day because they stop searching lol
@ColtonWalker073
@ColtonWalker073 3 жыл бұрын
Well they probably had a set amount of time where they would have people come in and try out and she just happened to be the last person to come in on the last day of casting. So if she hadn't come in on that day, they would have had to pick from all of the other candidates.
@Black-Swan-007
@Black-Swan-007 3 жыл бұрын
That's not how auditions work. There's usually a set amount of time to gather all the audition tapes, then they go through them and choose who wins. "Yeah, I found it but I'm still looking for it!" Applies to your wallet, not your actors.
@niamhrtditchfield2348
@niamhrtditchfield2348 3 жыл бұрын
That's not how auditions work, so dont try and be a smartass cuz you're just wrong
@imaginefun13
@imaginefun13 3 жыл бұрын
It sounds like they were watching audition videos, so hers was literally the last one they had to watch, not that they stopped watching them after hers
@Rachel-uy7pv
@Rachel-uy7pv 3 жыл бұрын
lol yh
@lacichung3517
@lacichung3517 3 жыл бұрын
I just found out that Snow White’s voice was done by her like a week ago which blew my mind because my daughter’s name is Adriana. Now I’m sad 😢
@adamorrin415
@adamorrin415 3 жыл бұрын
Seamus Gorman and super carlin brothers should do a theory duel where they try to make up a new theory in like 2 min and see which one is better. If you want to see this put Super+Gorman in the chat.
@Dirt.
@Dirt. 3 жыл бұрын
c h a t
@melanietrader
@melanietrader 3 жыл бұрын
I knew her name! I remember my mom telling me when she passed away in the 90s
@annataymond9529
@annataymond9529 3 жыл бұрын
The craziest part to me, like the underpaying thing, sure I guess it was all new and things were done differently all that, the crediting thing I guess they hadn’t thought to do it since it hadn’t been done before, but, the weirdest thing to me, they weren’t even going to let her in to see the movie???? What??
@Goleon
@Goleon 3 жыл бұрын
Yeah. If Walt was that worried about breaking the illusion he could of just had her show up dressed as Snow White. That’s basically what most actors do when they’re announced for a role at a event. No seriously when the English dub cast of Ouran High School Host Club was announced at one, most of them came out on stage wearing the school uniform the characters wear in the show.
@waywardwillard
@waywardwillard 3 жыл бұрын
My husband’s father saw Snow White in theaters, and he told my husband that it was so unbelievable to the audience, since they had never seen a full-length animated movie before. He was only like 7 or 8 years old and still remembered it when he was older as an amazing experience.
@funkmasterpoe
@funkmasterpoe 3 жыл бұрын
I’ve looked into this before and as so mad! They really should add the credits it’s SO easy!
@andrewwashere82
@andrewwashere82 3 жыл бұрын
Actually... It's Super Easy Barely an Inconvenience!
@Djynni
@Djynni 3 жыл бұрын
I was very sad to hear about this. Such a perfect voice for Snow White! Also, I would really love a coffee cup in the same colors / design as the foil printed shirts!
@AliAngelpie
@AliAngelpie 3 жыл бұрын
Auli'i is a Disney princess in her own special way. Snow White is so iconic, her voice was modeled after Betty Boop, and she was such an excellent role model for girls back then and maybe still today
@Starrylyra47
@Starrylyra47 3 жыл бұрын
Thought for certain this would be a trailer breakdown for wandavision. Still, interesting video!
@brandibastian4193
@brandibastian4193 3 жыл бұрын
Hopefully they'll have something like that soon we know the boys love the MCU
@luthientinuviel3883
@luthientinuviel3883 3 жыл бұрын
I am so HYPED for WandaVision! Scarlet Witch is one of my favorite Avengers and the show looks awesome.
@MarshalTennerWinter
@MarshalTennerWinter 3 жыл бұрын
I do some voice work. There's a number of injustices that come with that line of work. When Hollywood makes an animated movie, they don't see what voice actors are available. They look to see what A-list actors are available.
@missybarbour6885
@missybarbour6885 3 жыл бұрын
Can you believe that this was the standard for so long? Until SAG-AFTRA got enough power in the industry, this was just how it worked. One of the guild's first demands was that actors be credited for their work.
@frozeroze8128
@frozeroze8128 3 жыл бұрын
Your videos always pop up exactly when im bored i swear yall are spying on me 🤣
@gabbyarnold527
@gabbyarnold527 3 жыл бұрын
I really love your informational videos. They're really fun to watch.
@yohanesfeta6801
@yohanesfeta6801 3 жыл бұрын
It feels like forever, good to see you back
@andrewlance3898
@andrewlance3898 3 жыл бұрын
"First feature length animated film in color! The Adventures of Prince Achmed: *"Am I a joke to you?"*
@officialmichaelcarrasco
@officialmichaelcarrasco 3 жыл бұрын
That was a silent film in the style of shadow puppets. TOTALLY different.
@luckyfin1887
@luckyfin1887 3 жыл бұрын
imo, i actually prefer when the voice actors aren't well known... For example, I had such a hard time during Onward because all I could hear were Tom Holland and Chris Pratt (love them though)... i loved MOana cuz her voice and singing were so fresh and unrecognizable...
@caleb3708
@caleb3708 3 жыл бұрын
"your time and work is valuable" everyone with an unpaid internship: *hysterical cry-laughing*
@sammyoldham4463
@sammyoldham4463 3 жыл бұрын
Love you guys!
@milesd.8756
@milesd.8756 3 жыл бұрын
love the content keep up the good work in these har ditmes
@alyherzog50
@alyherzog50 3 жыл бұрын
LOVED THIS VIDEO!!! Snow White is my favorite Disney princess, so it made my heart very happy! Also, interesting fact, Adriana's father was actually a voice teacher:)
@astaldogal
@astaldogal 3 жыл бұрын
Yes!!! Yaaaaaaaaaaaas!! More of these behind the scenes history stories!!! I'm in the Candid plug and I already want more of these.
@aksipocks5338
@aksipocks5338 3 жыл бұрын
I love your videos! You and your family have blessed this earth!
@cortd5273
@cortd5273 3 жыл бұрын
Wow, The Sound of Music is ranked number 7. It is a amazing film.
@Vaishnavi_875
@Vaishnavi_875 3 жыл бұрын
credits : Host : j carlin Writers : J and Ben carlin Editors :Scott "big cat'' niswander Voice of snow white :adriana caselotti XD😋😄😁
@effeffiagonalick5078
@effeffiagonalick5078 3 жыл бұрын
I've heard that Walt Disney really really _really_ wanted to do an adaptation of The Wizard of Oz but never could get the rights, and that it haunted him to his death, so the fact that Snow White herself managed to land even a small part in the film using that voice that Walt coveted so much is beautifully ironic.
@MillieVonMint
@MillieVonMint 3 жыл бұрын
In my odd coincidence of the day I happened to check my phone for the time while watching a movie on Disney +, and this video upload was advertised to me... while I was watching Snow White. 😂
@chaseparson9120
@chaseparson9120 3 жыл бұрын
If they didn't transfer the money to modern day just 1 million would inflate to 15 million and that is an estimate.
@ameliayork1949
@ameliayork1949 3 жыл бұрын
I absolutely love this I love disney history!! Thanks for ur amazing videos
@longblondsam4648
@longblondsam4648 3 жыл бұрын
I saw how you gave Adriana credit at the end. Awesome!!!
@leylizeynalova5914
@leylizeynalova5914 3 жыл бұрын
After the new Wandavision trailer came out on the 20th, Are you guys working on any theories for it ?!?!??? Also love your videos there so entertaining. I should be doing school work but I guess I’m here now haha 🤷‍♀️
@isabellehanson8269
@isabellehanson8269 3 жыл бұрын
Hey Brother! When’s the next vlog, J?
@kathrynehiersche1817
@kathrynehiersche1817 3 жыл бұрын
I'm stoked about this return to og content
@bekahwhit9786
@bekahwhit9786 3 жыл бұрын
Y’all should do more history videos like these, I find them fascinating.
@brandonhancock8620
@brandonhancock8620 3 жыл бұрын
What happened to the vlogs, J? I miss those!
@SuperCarlinBrothers
@SuperCarlinBrothers 3 жыл бұрын
Twins are hard, but I am working on it!!!
@luv_lynnie
@luv_lynnie 3 жыл бұрын
Oh yeah I was wondering that Good to know what happened
@brandonhancock8620
@brandonhancock8620 3 жыл бұрын
SuperCarlinBrothers can’t wait! I hope they’re doing well! 😃
@richardclark2495
@richardclark2495 3 жыл бұрын
@@SuperCarlinBrothers Great to hear it, J! We've missed the vlogs a lot! But family comes first, and, well, you've got a lot of little family right now. . . so we understand!
@skyhorton4717
@skyhorton4717 3 жыл бұрын
When he said harry stocking, i thought he was gonna say harry Potter. Potterhead shines through. 😂😂🦌
@clonerys1782
@clonerys1782 3 жыл бұрын
Loving the new editing! I didn't notice when the more in depth edits started but I adore it!
@notthatyouasked6656
@notthatyouasked6656 3 жыл бұрын
In the 1990s, I spoke to Ms. Caselotti on the phone a few times. I was a mail order autograph dealer and purchased many signed items from her to sell in my business. She preferred to only sell her own items because she was older and didn't want to have to lift heavy packages. She specifically told me not to send her anything heavier than a comic book!
@adorimable9690
@adorimable9690 3 жыл бұрын
Its not a story the jedi would tell you
@tiana2577
@tiana2577 3 жыл бұрын
I've lost a lot of respect for Disney now. they basically ruined her career
@mythoughtsexactly2145
@mythoughtsexactly2145 3 жыл бұрын
But that was a long time ago. They're still giving voice actors the credits they deserve
@GetlemanNightmare
@GetlemanNightmare 3 жыл бұрын
@@wafflefalafel9442 and 20 dollars per day is not bad. It's $283.00 to $4,610.00. Today's money. So she got $27,100.00 to $442,000.00. Small today, but big at then
@thunderbird1921
@thunderbird1921 3 жыл бұрын
Disney's a FAR more disgusting company than people realize. Since the 1950s, they've changed stories and then deceptively promoted them under the original name. Furthermore, they've been accused of stealing AT LEAST 2-3 stories from others, Lion King and Jungle Cruise among them (the latter is a pretty blatant ripoff of The African Queen, a movie made by United Artists in 1951). Some even dispute the origins of Mickey Mouse. Even more appalling, they've admitted to laying off US citizens in previous years and having foreign visa workers take over (not sure if they're doing it now or not). Walt Disney Studios: Mistreating employees, ruining stories and stealing ideas since 1927.
@officialmichaelcarrasco
@officialmichaelcarrasco 3 жыл бұрын
@@thunderbird1921 You are everywhere. lol Troll for Sho'! You work for Dreamworks? 😂😂😂
@thunderbird1921
@thunderbird1921 3 жыл бұрын
@@officialmichaelcarrasco Nope, just a movie fan who desires to share truth. My primary loyalty is to Golden Age MGM as a matter of fact.
@Natyy077
@Natyy077 3 жыл бұрын
Myyyyy goooood!!!! This is so sad!!! I just found you guys a couple of weeks ago and seriously LOVE YOU, your videos are the only thing I watch lately so I can catch up! Keep up the great work!! ♥
@beccag2758
@beccag2758 3 жыл бұрын
I love the behind the scenes videos you make!!
@sillygooselol2757
@sillygooselol2757 3 жыл бұрын
Princess in hogwarts houses: Moana: Slytherin Anna: Hufflepuff Elsa: slytherin but if she was keen on being ravenclaw it would fit Rapunzel: Ravenclaw Vanellope: Gryffindor Tiana: hufflepuff Mulan: Hufflepuff or Gryffindor, it would come down to her choice. Jasmine: Slytherin Belle: I would say ravenclaw but she values hufflepuff things a little more. Auora: Hufflepuff (zero personality I have nothing to work with) Snow White: Hufflepuff Anything wrong?
@barneynedward
@barneynedward 3 жыл бұрын
Wouldn't Tiana be a student at ilvermorny? if I'm not mistaken I'm pretty sure the princess and the frog took place in New Orleans, Louisiana.
@eebertdeebert
@eebertdeebert 3 жыл бұрын
@@barneynedward Yeah, fair point.
@haihai9022
@haihai9022 3 жыл бұрын
Where’s Cinderella?
@Alejandroigarabide
@Alejandroigarabide 3 жыл бұрын
Auli'i Cravalho could play Moana in live-action. Actually: what if Disney makes a live-action Moana SEQUEL, instead of the eventual remake. Besides, this time Tamatoa can return as the main villain. It would be good for Disney, good for those who hate the Disney remakes (as it would be a sequel), and good for those who like the remakes. Besides, if there is something to criticize about Moana, it would be the existence of a cliché twist villain and the lack of screentime for Tamatoa. Both problems solved by this sequel. BTW, brothers, have you heard of the underrated Disney show "Legend of the Three Caballeros"? The best Donald Duck show of recent times.
@niamhrtditchfield2348
@niamhrtditchfield2348 3 жыл бұрын
I dont think it would work, but I'm sure some people would like it
@haihai9022
@haihai9022 3 жыл бұрын
“Tamatoa can return as the main villain” *Schaffillas has entered the chat*
@magicinmichigan
@magicinmichigan 3 жыл бұрын
Wow! That is sad. I'm impressed with her grace in handling everything, although that honestly also sounds like a product of the times with her concern for the confrontation.
@AsiaSeweryn
@AsiaSeweryn 3 жыл бұрын
i loved it! you can do more videos like this xx
@Kingdjstu
@Kingdjstu 3 жыл бұрын
I clicked so fast my mind is still processing it Edit: seeing how many likes I can get while watching the vid
@celesteisvargas
@celesteisvargas 3 жыл бұрын
Same
@bruhbwoi3618
@bruhbwoi3618 3 жыл бұрын
You clicked in 18 seconds
@Kingdjstu
@Kingdjstu 3 жыл бұрын
:p def can relate lol
@mr.oopsiedoopsie
@mr.oopsiedoopsie 3 жыл бұрын
E P I C
@Kingdjstu
@Kingdjstu 3 жыл бұрын
Bruh Bwoi it’s delayed
@LU-qr3kh
@LU-qr3kh 3 жыл бұрын
Don't know what this is about but I'm excited for a new video!!!
@quinnhouk5369
@quinnhouk5369 3 жыл бұрын
Me too
@-Scotticus-
@-Scotticus- 3 жыл бұрын
God i love you gentlemen. Such amazing quality - EVERY time!
@zalak8622
@zalak8622 3 жыл бұрын
I loved this video !!! Do more Disney ones 😭😭😭❤️
@celesteisvargas
@celesteisvargas 3 жыл бұрын
Hey brother! 😊
@j6154
@j6154 3 жыл бұрын
Just a little correction she actually died in 1997! Doesn’t affect much but still
@ggt47
@ggt47 3 жыл бұрын
...yes...
@monabohamad2242
@monabohamad2242 3 жыл бұрын
so how old was she when she died?
@ggt47
@ggt47 3 жыл бұрын
@@monabohamad2242 80. She was born in 1916. So it before her birthday.
@akashsarda9689
@akashsarda9689 3 жыл бұрын
The editing cracks me up man
@highclass_lady
@highclass_lady 3 жыл бұрын
Love a SCB Disney Princess video!
@Navillea
@Navillea 3 жыл бұрын
Somebody hand me a poison apple, *CAUSE I'M ABOUT TO POISON SOME PEOPLE.*
@ggt47
@ggt47 3 жыл бұрын
...yes...poor Adrianna...
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