The tragic tale of this Warhammer model will bring a tear to the eye

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Olden Demon

Olden Demon

Жыл бұрын

Today we hold back tears to remember a classic model and its tragic fall from grace.
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@ShooterNumberOne
@ShooterNumberOne Жыл бұрын
Dreadnought warriors are hundreds or even thousands of years old and have faithfully served the imperium for centuries, without sleep, food or cigarette breaks. If their jobs aren't secure, no-one is safe.
@AFnord
@AFnord Жыл бұрын
Sleep is something they're allowed to do. In fact, sleep is something they are masters at, spending most of their time doing so, until they're called into battle, or some young marine needs their council.
@calebbarnhouse496
@calebbarnhouse496 Жыл бұрын
99% of a dreadnought's time is spent snoozing
@crustythewanksock2413
@crustythewanksock2413 Жыл бұрын
I dread to think of the aroma inside 😷
@sharkenjoyer
@sharkenjoyer Жыл бұрын
wow ok nerd
@inthefade
@inthefade Жыл бұрын
No nerds allowed here in 40KTube, that’s for sure. Only quarterback megachads allowed.
@nicholassmith7984
@nicholassmith7984 Жыл бұрын
This Dreadnought design will always be the best. Nothing else has matched it.
@averageeughenjoyer6429
@averageeughenjoyer6429 Жыл бұрын
Those with heads are neat
@darko-man8549
@darko-man8549 Жыл бұрын
I definitely prefer this clunky box look to the new stuff
@darko-man8549
@darko-man8549 Жыл бұрын
@@_DeadEnd_ Besides the better scale, the older models are better - more characterful, more flavourful....less "ultramarine in different colours"
@petrolak
@petrolak Жыл бұрын
the dreadnaughts are modelled after the cute little droids from Silent Running, which I find an amusing bit of trivia.
@malkomalkavian
@malkomalkavian Жыл бұрын
Imposing, tragic, awesome
@killahertz7124
@killahertz7124 Жыл бұрын
I miss the banners on their tops
@paille-boy
@paille-boy Жыл бұрын
You know you can make some right?
@killahertz7124
@killahertz7124 Жыл бұрын
@@paille-boy I understand why noone runs them, they're impractical for LoS, snap off any chance they have and a pain to detail but it was an aesthetic I miss from all tables flying those carpets.
@calerdonian
@calerdonian Жыл бұрын
The ironclad still comes with a banner
@uhhnz
@uhhnz Жыл бұрын
@@jc7997aj nah they’re not
@uhhnz
@uhhnz Жыл бұрын
@@jc7997aj what’s the deal with neck beards 💀
@JimmyCarmine
@JimmyCarmine Жыл бұрын
The single lascannon was a legacy option from the old Chuck, Eddie, and Fury dreadnought models from Rogue Trader
@OldenDemon
@OldenDemon Жыл бұрын
That explains it
@richardhockey8442
@richardhockey8442 Жыл бұрын
The White Dwarf issue 100 dread rules, Space marine, eldar and ork dreads :)
@enderjed2523
@enderjed2523 Жыл бұрын
I find it odd to see backwards compatibility like this in tabletop games, as I’m used to it in technology instead.
@SamuliAura
@SamuliAura 2 ай бұрын
@@richardhockey8442 Also found in the Compendium (Red book)
@cavemanbum
@cavemanbum Жыл бұрын
30+ year 40K veteran here. I gave up on 40K in 2017 because I couldn't stand the rules bloat. I 'regressed' back to 2nd Edition, and I'm loving it. With 3D printing technology being what it is, I've been able to kit out all my Marine dreadnoughts with every weapon option imaginable, and after so many years, finally have the dreadnoughts I've always wanted. 🤗
@tiobridge841
@tiobridge841 Жыл бұрын
How do I convince my 20-something friend group that they should get into 2nd edition? I want to give it a try so badly!
@D4RK_FL4M3
@D4RK_FL4M3 Жыл бұрын
New editions do have a good amount of rules bloat but 2nd always looked intimidating I mean it looks like it has way too many rules
@xninewxw7559
@xninewxw7559 Жыл бұрын
10th might cut it down
@LordVader1094
@LordVader1094 Жыл бұрын
​@@D4RK_FL4M3That's every GW game before you get into it. 6th Ed WHFB is very rules lite but is still a large book
@cavemanbum
@cavemanbum Жыл бұрын
@@D4RK_FL4M3 It's actually not very bad at all. 3rd Edition was created to replace 2nd largely to streamline the game in order to field larger forces. If you keep the model count down to 4-5 squads and a handful of vehicles, 2nd Edition is quite easy to play.
@gilbert9825
@gilbert9825 Жыл бұрын
i remember when my mother tried to warn my of the dreaded multimelta. "a measly 24" range S8 Ap1. What harm can that do?" i said laughing out loud. How naive i was :(
@abnerdoon4902
@abnerdoon4902 Жыл бұрын
It was the dreadnought in the first dawn of war cinematic that got me hooked on 40k.
@LordVader1094
@LordVader1094 Жыл бұрын
Literally same
@whitemiasma5288
@whitemiasma5288 Жыл бұрын
@@LordVader1094 Never ever thought I would stoop so low.... but.. Dreadnaught go brrrrrt...
@nwahnerevar9398
@nwahnerevar9398 Жыл бұрын
Even in death I still surf
@SeanCrosser
@SeanCrosser Жыл бұрын
I remember reading a PC Gamer magazine covering DoW, and the picture of the Dreadnought sync killing an Ork just called to me
@AFnord
@AFnord Жыл бұрын
The boxdread, still one of my all time favourite models that GW has ever produced. There is just something about it, no matter its iteration, that appeals to me, far more so than any other dread variant.
@waggerz
@waggerz Жыл бұрын
The metal Bjorn the Fell Handed holds pride of place in my collection as it was the model I purchased at the grand opening of the first Games Workshop store in Melbourne Australia. I don't collect Space Wolves at all anymore but Bjorn will always be there.
@agp11001
@agp11001 Жыл бұрын
Bjorn is, was, and will be the best boi of my collection as well. Mainly because in a massive battle with a few friends he chewed through a Bloodthirster, an Avatar and a few Ork Waaaghbosses without taking any damage.
@MrPolicekarim
@MrPolicekarim 9 ай бұрын
I really admire your country. I feel sorry for the inflated prices you have to pay, though!
@MatthewX0
@MatthewX0 Жыл бұрын
As someone who is very new to 40K I started my journey just last month with Dawn of War. Just a single Dreadnought was enough to turn to tide in those story missions and I could imagine on the field of battle seeing one arriving to the scene to lead the charge. If only I knew the tragedy of where they're at today sooner! Thank you Dreadnoughts for your unending service.
@supremeovernerd
@supremeovernerd 9 ай бұрын
excellent game mate
@SlabBulkhead
@SlabBulkhead Жыл бұрын
I started playing in third and it was absurd how bad these were compared to a T8 wraithlord. Shame they're being discontinued. They're iconic.
@kharnifex
@kharnifex Жыл бұрын
It was a joy watching my carnifex nuke dreads in both 2nd and 3rd ed
@mrspeigel3593
@mrspeigel3593 Жыл бұрын
Bet they get a new plastic kit for Heresy
@juliancalero8012
@juliancalero8012 Жыл бұрын
The castifarum dreadnought is dead, long live the castifarum (context: only standard dreadnought is being retired, the venerable dreadnought is staying and all standard dreadnoughts can be played as venerable dreadnoughts)
@AFnord
@AFnord Жыл бұрын
The Wraithlord of 3rd edition really showed that GW did not understand the value of toughness. It was a bit of a problem unit, and a lot of armies struggled with taking them down if someone decided to bring more than one. That said, a ranged support dread wasn't half bad in 3rd edition. As someone who went to tournaments back in the days, I would regularly face armies that brought twin las + missile launcher dreads, and they would preform pretty well, even if they were by no means overpowered. It is a shame that they went overboard with nerfing the multimelta and assault cannon though. I guess GW wanted to be on the safe side, after 2nd edition, and not create weapons that were quite so oppressive on the battlefield, but they went too far.
@Kaiyanwang82
@Kaiyanwang82 Жыл бұрын
The wraithlord was strong but it didn't make the Dread weak. The WL was one of the few strongpoints of an overall fragile army, if you exclude vehicle shenanigans. You are also more vulnerable to stuff like neuro-gauntlets (but not poisons).
@gelmorn18
@gelmorn18 Жыл бұрын
I think another thing that makes the loss of the basic dreadnought so impactful for the community is that for so many of us it was our first bigger model kit that we bought. You just finished all of your tactical marines that either came in the 40K starter box or from just a 10 man kit and now you have the confidence to try your hand at something bigger with more details so you pick up the dreadnought, plus you thought it was the most badass looking model in the space marines outside of terminators.
@robertcain7630
@robertcain7630 Жыл бұрын
ah yes, 2nd Edition, I remember it well, a time of in-depth rules which made sense, which was replaced by things like "that huge battle-cannon shell missed so... it doesn't explode!" A favourite from that time was the rules for the Ork's Shock Attack Gun which had multiple damage charts depending on what you were shooting at... I'll never forget my Terminator Captain getting a Snottling imbedded in his leg and having to limp at half-speed for the rest of the battle! (I converted him after the battle and gave him the bionic leg off of the Terminator Inquisitor model!)
@Mikilangelo
@Mikilangelo Жыл бұрын
Bravo for converting your T-Captain with bionic leg, it was the right thing to do!
@IRCannonFodder
@IRCannonFodder Жыл бұрын
I am going to miss the Box-Noughts. The Redemptors just don't have the same charm to me. I am sure that is a thick pair of Nostalgia Glasses, but seeing them come to life in games like Dawn of War and THQ Space Marine was just a joy.
@calebbarnhouse496
@calebbarnhouse496 Жыл бұрын
As someone who doesn't even like space marines, I love box noughts, they are great, redemeptors look stupid, but at the same time like the person tried to make them not look stupid, box noughts are clear in that they are a clunky desighn, and it works for it because they are a clunky solution to a problem
@michaelschonhofen622
@michaelschonhofen622 Жыл бұрын
@@calebbarnhouse496 a clunky solution to a clunky problem. 😁
@Slug99
@Slug99 Жыл бұрын
I wonder how many people's introduction to the dreadnought was it ambushing two banshees with a Koolaid man entry through solid rock, snatching up the banshees with its power fists like they were made of paper, crushing the first and backhand slamming it into the rocks, and as it raises the remaining foe in its power fist it simply states "I HAVE COME TO DESTROY YOU" before unleashing the full fury of his heavy flamer point blank in the eldar's face.
@SportyMabamba
@SportyMabamba Жыл бұрын
What is this a reference to?
@Slug99
@Slug99 Жыл бұрын
@@SportyMabamba its the Dawn of War 2 intro cinematic.
@SportyMabamba
@SportyMabamba Жыл бұрын
@@Slug99 ah thanks I didn’t play the 2nd one. Is it any good? Heard #3 was crap..
@AlanGChenery
@AlanGChenery Жыл бұрын
​@@SportyMabamba it's good just nothing like the first. It's almost more of an RPG, leveling up and equipping a handful of unique squads across many levels, rather than the large scale base building of the first. If it wasn't DoW2 it would be very very popular. But it's just not what most of the fanbase wanted in a sequel, so it got a mixed reception... 3 is just an attempt to cash in on the moba craze and generally bad though.
@SportyMabamba
@SportyMabamba Жыл бұрын
@@AlanGChenery ah ok thanks for the info I think I’ll stick with DOW1 + expansions
@LeviticusStroud
@LeviticusStroud Жыл бұрын
"...Sustained fire dice,...an average of 4.5 hits..." It was supposed to be much higher for the pay off against a chance to jam for infantry. This was raised at a Q&A at the only 2Ed tournament at WHW before 3ED was announced. The question was asked as to why the average number of shots was so low, and the responder (Gav Thorpe) stated it wasn't, as the dice had two 3s, two 2s, a 1, and a jam. This led to people taking out their dice to reveal that there were a lot of variations of sustained fire dice out in the wild! Pretty much no one in the audience had dice marked up like this, only the WHW GW staff themselves. Some had a single 3, with most having both a single 3 and also a single 2! I still have mine, straight out of the 2ed box set, and that's what I had- average 1.5 hits per die. The look on Gav's face (author of the upcoming 3Ed) indicated to me that this was going to lead to a whole change to the rulebook he'd just 'finished'...
@1985slipstream
@1985slipstream Жыл бұрын
intersting. Mine had one 3, two 2s, two 1s and jam. this would explain why storm bolters were so rubish as they are worse than two single bolt guns. with two 3s instead of two 1s they would hhave made much more sense.
@OldenDemon
@OldenDemon Жыл бұрын
This would explain a lot of things, but my god, the assault cannons would have been amazing
@kirgan1000
@kirgan1000 Жыл бұрын
@@OldenDemon then I was playing in 2:ed and everyone thought assult cannons was a almost broken "to good" weapon. I gess we did use the good dice, and I was a big fan of shuriken catapults becuse Eldar Gardians butcher Space Marins with shuriken catapults.
@sim00ps
@sim00ps Жыл бұрын
Where can I find out more about this?
@1985slipstream
@1985slipstream Жыл бұрын
@@kirgan1000 Good point even with the "wrong" dice numbers they were a beast of a weapon. "Correct" numbers would also have made those lethal ork warbikes even more dangerous.
@gelmorn18
@gelmorn18 Жыл бұрын
The loss of the old Dreadnought has hit the community in such an unexpectedly hard way. No one cares about the sterngaurd veterans that much so their loss wasn't that big of a deal but the loss of the basic dreadnought has a kind of finality to it. Like even if most people didn't buy one for a very long time there was always this reassurance that it would be available to purchase if the mood ever struck you, but with it no longer available it now makes us unsure of what GW will put to chopping block next.
@trevorbailey1101
@trevorbailey1101 Жыл бұрын
It was the 2nd Ed Dreadnought that got me to play 40k. I still have him. Big metal lump that if you drop on your foot you will know about it!
@1985slipstream
@1985slipstream Жыл бұрын
and get lead poisoning too boot lol
@stalker1983
@stalker1983 Жыл бұрын
The powerfist got a tear attack against vehicles so it did have an advantage to being on a dreadnought
@minipaintingforyou
@minipaintingforyou Жыл бұрын
I have fond memories of my once mighty dreadnought collection. My very first dreadnought suffered from being the only armoured unit in my list, hence magnetically attracting every single anti-tank shot and falling in turn 1 or 2. I had plastic versions, librarian and Grey Knight variants, multiple forgeworld kits, redemptors, 9 in total and all of them painted. But the dreadnought I was most proud of was a full metal Bjorn the Fellhanded. Even though it sucked in game, I fielded it in every single game I played with my Space Wolves. 😊
@richardhockey8442
@richardhockey8442 Жыл бұрын
I had a bit of a thing for the Eldar dreadnoughts, I've ended up with about a dozen including a couple with mods for siege dreadnoughts form the Warhammer Siege rulebook
@MatthewBester
@MatthewBester Жыл бұрын
I needed this. The news they are discontinuing the classic Dreadnought was a bad day. End if an era.
@nakenmil
@nakenmil Жыл бұрын
Your comment on "the ORIGINAL time of the horus heresy" hit me somewhere deep and emotional.
@lindsaywheatcroft8247
@lindsaywheatcroft8247 Жыл бұрын
I’m quite certain 2ED Dreadnought power fists did have a superpower. They got a bonus to vehicle damage results due to their ability to twist and rip sheet metal, I think. Also the twin lascannon could more precisely pick out specific locations on a vehicle, which perhaps isn’t as effective as getting more than twice as many hits, but still helpful, and came with extra range over the ubiquitous AC.
@OldenDemon
@OldenDemon Жыл бұрын
You are right. I forgot
@sarahshaw7315
@sarahshaw7315 Жыл бұрын
My dad has like 7 dreadnoughts that haven’t seen use in like 30 years. I wanna try get him to let me have his space marine army and bring it back to playing on board
@hangarrat
@hangarrat Жыл бұрын
Tell him the Emperor needs him. His time has come.
@sarahshaw7315
@sarahshaw7315 Жыл бұрын
@@hangarrat Terra must be defended from the filthy xeno
@whitemiasma5288
@whitemiasma5288 Жыл бұрын
That's too bad. I have been using two of the old models (one of them is all metal and weights over 100 lbs. (true story)) as Venerable Dreadnaughts. They are fun and they are good. The things can take a big volley from Eradicators and just trudge in and smash them. In a pair, they really do have a good effect.
@sarahshaw7315
@sarahshaw7315 Жыл бұрын
@@whitemiasma5288 I refuse to believe you have a model that weighs more then the average teenager- That thing would be 7 stone. I weigh 6 and a half stone. No fuckihg way there is a miniature that weighs more then me.
@whitemiasma5288
@whitemiasma5288 Жыл бұрын
@@sarahshaw7315 Ah I'm just funning around. Those old metal Dreadnaughts, so fun to watch people that are "newer" handle it and not understand why it weighs so much. They refuse to believe that it is all pewter. Had to pin it to the base to prevent it from snapping off all the time.
@nickellingham1764
@nickellingham1764 8 ай бұрын
I quit 2nd edition and only returned recently........I love stuff from this era so much! This dreadnaught and the now discontinued plastic version is the coolest dread design by far
@Miniscape-wh40k
@Miniscape-wh40k Жыл бұрын
Such poetry, such beautiful for a beautiful model. 👏 👏 👏
@ryanodoherty4090
@ryanodoherty4090 Жыл бұрын
Ah, I still remember my old Furioso absolutely terrorising the 2nd edition battlefields of the mid 90's. Heady days.
@rutgaurxi7314
@rutgaurxi7314 Жыл бұрын
Having more or less played since the end RT, these are pure soul. The new models can only hope to have so much love poured into their sculpts and are instead soulless CAD designs, made by committee, instead of passionate artists.
@sonicwingnut
@sonicwingnut Жыл бұрын
I mean the new contemptor is sick though, just being so poseable and the fact you can magnetize the shit out of it really easily. Sure it's a bit more spartan in design than the old boxnaught but then that's the 30k aesthetic. Just a shame the more characterful legion specific ones have gone the way the boxnaught is due to go :(
@rutgaurxi7314
@rutgaurxi7314 Жыл бұрын
​@@sonicwingnut I loke the Contemptor as well, both Resin and Plastic versions. Although I find Neizsmiths version absolute kino.
@theylivewesleep.5139
@theylivewesleep.5139 Жыл бұрын
@@sonicwingnutcontemptors look too humanoid. The boxnaught gives you the sense that the marine has been turned into an ED-209 style death machine.
@sonicwingnut
@sonicwingnut Жыл бұрын
@@theylivewesleep.5139 If we're going down that route then the Leviathan is the boy, although for maximum ED-209 vibes I saw someone recently on a heresy group had converted the oldschool Space Crusade dread into a Deredeo and it looked amazing.
@theylivewesleep.5139
@theylivewesleep.5139 Жыл бұрын
@@sonicwingnut leviathans also have that humanoid aspect. It doesn’t compare to a walking tomb.
@wombatturd
@wombatturd Жыл бұрын
Gosh i forgot how much i love the old box colors and paint jobs, really brought the memories back of going to hobby shops with my dad. I started in 3rd edition, never got to see dreadnoughts be that strong. Thanks for a wonderful video
@bmmtxb
@bmmtxb Жыл бұрын
Same here
@SportyMabamba
@SportyMabamba Жыл бұрын
YT algorithm brought me here, but the video presentation and narration style got my subscription. Love the channel!
@lain4231
@lain4231 Жыл бұрын
I remember getting that starter box for 3rd for my birthday in high school.
@chrisjones6792
@chrisjones6792 11 ай бұрын
I will say, Dread's are back to being absolute monsters in Heresy.
@TheKsalad
@TheKsalad Жыл бұрын
I was given an original metal Venerable dreadnought and by god I could break diamond with this thing, I always bring it to the table and somehow it being made of metal let it survive the deadliest weapons from the newest factions
@whitemiasma5288
@whitemiasma5288 Жыл бұрын
Mine too! It is always great fun to hand it to someone and see their reaction to it's putting them off balance.
@mrwri
@mrwri Жыл бұрын
I love them.
@ChristianVonCarmian40kVtuber
@ChristianVonCarmian40kVtuber Жыл бұрын
regular dreadnoughts were pretty good in 8th and 9th when the multi-melta got much better (2 shots that could take out heavy infantry or vehicles or monsters) and they were cheap and damage resistant. My Chaos dreadnought hasn't been this happy since 6th ed(?) when 3 teleporting dreadnoughts (helbrutes) was an option
@impguardwarhamer
@impguardwarhamer Жыл бұрын
They're also pretty good in 5/6/7th. It does need to be within 12 inches to be useful, but when it was it's one of the most deadly anti-tank weapons in the game. Assault cannons also got back the rending rule, although still only heavy 4
@ChristianVonCarmian40kVtuber
@ChristianVonCarmian40kVtuber Жыл бұрын
@@impguardwarhamer in those editions, at that range, I preferred close combat instead of a one shot multi-melta. I think the assault cannon never recovered and the twin heavy bolter has been a better option since 3rd edition but the melta and assault cannon were at least pretty good and not awful
@richardpagel6959
@richardpagel6959 Жыл бұрын
@@ChristianVonCarmian40kVtuber 5th edition Grey Knight Dreadnoughts with their... "holy ammunition" or so, do not remember the name, that granted +1 strength... were always fielded 3 times in most tournament rosters with 2 twin auto cannons, resulting in 8 shots s8 on 48" range.
@ChristianVonCarmian40kVtuber
@ChristianVonCarmian40kVtuber Жыл бұрын
@@richardpagel6959 did they also have the 'very shiny don't shoot me' rule, or was that 4th edition?
@madhattom891
@madhattom891 Жыл бұрын
The sheer mass of the old metal model also added to their intimidating presence. The satisfying thump it made when you set it down on the table. The very real threat of it tipping over and damaging your opponents models (the 2nd edition boxes didnt include a base). And gods help you if you tried to carjack someone who had one of these with them.
@Mugdorna
@Mugdorna Жыл бұрын
That 1990s battle report animation made me nostalgic. I started the hobby at the end of 2nd Edition.
@dragonsgreedgaming3500
@dragonsgreedgaming3500 Жыл бұрын
Your poem at the end was the icing on the cake! Well done!
@seanbrown2697
@seanbrown2697 Жыл бұрын
I started at 3rd. The dreadnought was the first model I bought after getting the box set; I didn’t care about the tabletop, I just loved that model! ❤
@derekmcmanus8615
@derekmcmanus8615 Жыл бұрын
Such nostalgia in a few pictures! I remember my friend Steve Sands getting his Dark Angel's Dreadnought featured in White Dwarf
@MartynStanleyAuthor
@MartynStanleyAuthor Жыл бұрын
I still have my 2nd Ed Bjorn the Fell Handed. I still play him in games! I did the kit to make a quad Las Canon dreadnought, but actually my kitbashed 5 man Las Canon Long Fangs squad is pretty good value.
@david7522
@david7522 Жыл бұрын
Damn the image you chose for this just gave me a nostalgia hit of epic propotions
@kharnifex
@kharnifex Жыл бұрын
The 37 points to equip a dread with the lightning claw and heavy flamer was so worth it, clones of bjorn
@frogblasttheventcore69
@frogblasttheventcore69 3 ай бұрын
This is exactly what I'm planning on doing. I'm going to build a Blood Angels army, all firstborn. Starting off with a tac squad, substituting a couple of those Space marine heroes blind buy guys as tac marines so i can kitbash a lieutenant and captain out of the tac squad, then painting death company and devastators alongside kitbashing a techmarine. Using a sanguinary priest as an apothecary, and rounding the force out with those shiny new terminators, a rhino, and a furioso and venereable dread respectively. Long live Firstborn Marines!!!
@Battouga
@Battouga Жыл бұрын
Still have my 2nd edition BA Furioso with a multimelta. I recently picked up miniature painting again as a hobby (haven't painted since late 90s) and stripped my 2nd edition miniatures so not to add *another* layer of paint. Sadly I don't have my old citadel paints anymore but painting again felt good.
@heralds
@heralds Жыл бұрын
The best dreadnought is the one with dual hurricane bolters. It doesn't exist but it seems like it would be a really cool idea
@GloriousGrunt
@GloriousGrunt 10 ай бұрын
Love the simple but effective animations Subbed!
@1985slipstream
@1985slipstream Жыл бұрын
So sad that minus modifiers and armour values are not a thing anymore...
@jordansorcery
@jordansorcery Жыл бұрын
Really enjoying these! Amongst other things, I think your writing is really sharp. Great work!
@OldenDemon
@OldenDemon Жыл бұрын
Thank you sir
@Jack_Daniels27
@Jack_Daniels27 Жыл бұрын
The peak of futuristic space mech design is a dead man in a box with legs, you cant convince me otherwise
@BladeRunner21577
@BladeRunner21577 Жыл бұрын
I started playing RT in 87. 2nd really up'd the games playability. The dread was king however it was the cost of a dread that limited its use in games not the desire of players to play them. It cost a lot of money to buy one, and you could have a terminator squad for that much money... They really were the good ol days of gaming though, 3rd killed so many things. Biggest victim was the terminators armour save.
@kenroth87
@kenroth87 Жыл бұрын
loved the video dude, you've really put me in the mood for learning to play 2nd edition, i started near the end of 5th, i've always wanted to try the "fluffier" editions of 40k
@AlexBergPlays
@AlexBergPlays Жыл бұрын
I started (and ended) in 2nd edition, so I'm saddened to learn the fate of one of my fave units.
@eatingpancakesrightnow2786
@eatingpancakesrightnow2786 9 ай бұрын
Is it possible to feel nostalgic for something that died 2 years before you were born and never got to interact with? Im loving this channel. This older view of warhammer a focus on things I recognize from Dawn Of War and my ancient White Dwarf compendium
@OldenDemon
@OldenDemon 9 ай бұрын
Good to know I have reached a “newer” audience than I anticipated
@chrisaman982
@chrisaman982 Жыл бұрын
My assault cannon / twin heavy bolter shreadnaught was the best thing in my 2nd Ed marine army. Man that thing killed a lot of stuff. Also, loved the bit on the old multi-melta.
@simoncoquin47
@simoncoquin47 8 ай бұрын
Thank you 😢 Great video ❤
@anvilofdoomminiatures
@anvilofdoomminiatures Жыл бұрын
Another great video mate! I’ve been trying to get my hands an old boxdread for a while.
@Lirretobb
@Lirretobb Жыл бұрын
You are speaking deeply to my soul with this channel... right down to the pork pies and scotch eggs!!
@michaelgrey1351
@michaelgrey1351 Жыл бұрын
I LOVE THIS CHANNEL!
@landonmel3070
@landonmel3070 Жыл бұрын
I cried at the end thank you
@mpepp9
@mpepp9 Жыл бұрын
Those old WD battle reports maps on the thumbnail were so good…
@ryanreinhart1834
@ryanreinhart1834 Жыл бұрын
I had one of these inb1996 It was soooo heavy. It hardly stayed together. The legs to body and the arms. Would get so glued together.
@nrais76
@nrais76 Жыл бұрын
I still have that metal Ultramarine dreadnought, btw. My kids arw so used to plastic models, when I handed it to 'em the reaction was pricelss. And I was waiting coiled to spring into action in case it got dropped - as much to save someone getting a broken foot as the model breaking, which with this guy would just mean beding a banner back straight or gluing an arm back on
@QT5656
@QT5656 Жыл бұрын
Great video! I remember being disappointed at how unremarkable the Dreadnaughts were in Epic. And then yes... A few years later they were unremarkable in 40 K too.
@drew222k3
@drew222k3 Жыл бұрын
Great video sir!
@tobiasschwabe1670
@tobiasschwabe1670 Жыл бұрын
I have my 5 Dreads from the times of 2nd and 3rd edition. And yes they only have stadard loatouts, cause i did not know to modify metal at that time
@brianfury9790
@brianfury9790 Жыл бұрын
i got like 5 of the old tin models, they are around 25 years old. they still serve till this day.
@GoblinGreen2021
@GoblinGreen2021 Жыл бұрын
The feels 😭
@Deathwing-Y2K
@Deathwing-Y2K Жыл бұрын
I used to used my Dark Angels Dreadnought in every battle. The thing was unkillable. I once had a two on one battle fighting against a Chaos marine army and a traitor guard tank company and my Dread almost singlehandedly won the game. He killed a hellhound, two Leman Russ tanks, and put the final shot into a deamon prince, all while being dead centre in the board and being shot at by nearly the whole tank army. Eventually the Dreadnought was immobilized, and lost its missile launcher, but it survived, still firing till the end of the game. The guard player wad furious that he couldn't kill it.
@RSBurgener
@RSBurgener Жыл бұрын
In 2nd edition, a buddy of mine would always bring his dreadnought. I did not have one of these. But what I did have was a Blood Angels Captain with a jump pack and power fist. I would leap at the dreadnought, charge it, and somehow roll lucky enough to strike the sarcophagus and rip the dude out of it. That was one way of dealing with them, apparently.
@OldenDemon
@OldenDemon Жыл бұрын
That’ll do it
@akselolsson7576
@akselolsson7576 Жыл бұрын
Another fantastic vid! Luckily we still have 2ed❤️🙏
@Gh0stClown
@Gh0stClown Жыл бұрын
Even in death, he still surfs
@MrDekasOne
@MrDekasOne 9 ай бұрын
I still have my metal bjorn the fell handed dreadnought and it's still one of my favourite models, i love how heavy it is too
@duanewegener1293
@duanewegener1293 Жыл бұрын
The ironclad dreadnought was the second model I bought when I started playing 40k, I have had a deep love for all dreadnoughts and that lament at the end was unfairly playing with my emotions sir.
@jonroads8281
@jonroads8281 Жыл бұрын
I loved these weapons loadouts. I always enjoyed poring over the Titan weapons available in the original Epic: Space Marine. There were so many cool weapons there....
@Deconus
@Deconus 7 ай бұрын
Ok this old style icons and hit markers send me right back to my first ever battle report, inside my first ever White Dwarf, wityh the titan imperator on the cover. I miss these, when the WD was more than just a glorified catalog of new stuff.
@MarkAndersonAudio
@MarkAndersonAudio Жыл бұрын
Another great video! I still love my old dreadnoughts!
@danf9721
@danf9721 Жыл бұрын
I took my old Ultramarine Dreadnought out for a spin in a HH game not long ago. A long with a bunch of other RT era old hammer space marines. It felt really good.
@christopherdeklerk9792
@christopherdeklerk9792 Жыл бұрын
This was great !!! Nostalgia overload! Thanks for your lament to Dreadnoughts. They were great! May the Emperor Protect !
@Nightmare-cr3iw
@Nightmare-cr3iw 11 ай бұрын
"Even in death, i still surf!"
@bmac9090
@bmac9090 Жыл бұрын
I believe the reason for arming with a single lascannon was simply a WYSIWYG nod to some Rogue Trader era Dreadnought models which were only armed with a single lascannon (or equivalent energy weapon. One of them had a conversion beam disrupter).
@Uppernorwood976
@Uppernorwood976 Жыл бұрын
Some serious nostalgia in this video
@maxkircher4671
@maxkircher4671 Жыл бұрын
As an avid oldhammer player of 2004hammer, I can confirm that Dreadnoughts are in fact horrifying to face in 3rd and 4th edition. They hit with the force of a railgun and most troops can't hurt them once they're in combat. And they can wade through area terrain with no fear of getting stuck. 10/10 would use an Elites choice for
@sentientbean1
@sentientbean1 Жыл бұрын
This is the youtube content i crave
@JustinKase1969
@JustinKase1969 Жыл бұрын
Loved this era of 40k (though I also enjoyed Rogue Trader) and the Dreadnaught was one of my favorite models. I still have my beaky Chaos Dread, but my marines have one from 3rd Ed, with the cadaverous marine peaking out the top of the sarcophagus. So much fun :)
@Yoghurtacid
@Yoghurtacid Жыл бұрын
Enjoyed this, well done :)
@MalcadorTheSigilite
@MalcadorTheSigilite Жыл бұрын
The fallen shall be remembered as the Emperor's finest
@incredibleflameboy
@incredibleflameboy Жыл бұрын
I like 3rd but we can all agree that 2nd has janky but charming rules that make it special.
@wesleyalana
@wesleyalana 11 ай бұрын
A marine Dread almost always defeated any Titans in HTH … it was funny and sad to see the little guy bring down a Giant!!
@curtisthornsberry4236
@curtisthornsberry4236 Жыл бұрын
My favorite “ here deal with this” model back in the day. Never relied on him to win the day, but oh boy did he hold up good portions of the enemy army if I played him well.
@aglumm9469
@aglumm9469 Жыл бұрын
This video is absolutely amazing. I love your content. Please make more and keep them coming. You are inspiring!! I have an old dread. He’s waiting patiently for me to paint him in howling griffons colours!
@OldenDemon
@OldenDemon Жыл бұрын
Thank you, more are coming
@kennethfharkin
@kennethfharkin Жыл бұрын
I love this model. I got into 40k in the RT era. Second edition was my thing and I drifted away late in the third. I still have all my old school metal dreads, several kit bashed with alternate weapons. This was also the time when kitbashing was critical. The Land Raider was out of production for years so we would make them out of Leman Russ kits.
@rossallan3585
@rossallan3585 Жыл бұрын
Also? Powerfist had its nifty tear attack, allowing it to mess up Tanks better.
@dekai7992
@dekai7992 Жыл бұрын
My new Space Marine army will definitely have all the back banners they deserve, Primaris or Firstborn, doesn't matter.
@dannyhartwig7595
@dannyhartwig7595 Жыл бұрын
was always way above what i could aford as trainee
@skinniestfatman5641
@skinniestfatman5641 Жыл бұрын
2nd was great fun, i use to love the old pop up attacks from skimmers like the Falcon grav tank
@edpaintsminis
@edpaintsminis Жыл бұрын
Terrific video! The design of those metal dreads is truly peerless and I love how fearsome they are on the tabletop. Bjorn's special rules are absolutely nails! I seem to remember most people didnt attach them to a base as this sturdy boy could stand on his own two feet.
@Parabueto
@Parabueto Жыл бұрын
If you werne't playing tournaments the old boxnaughts have always been pretty cool, at least through to 6th where I stayed at. While not as crazy as they used to be, they were still decent and they do look really cool in a small army.
@wilsonwy7151
@wilsonwy7151 Жыл бұрын
I’m a Grey Knights main player, so I can only use the little box dreads. I love mine and use them very often.
@NicholasBrakespear
@NicholasBrakespear Жыл бұрын
I miss the older lore, the older rules... and the older style of the models. In their inaccuracies and quirks, with their overly large heads and angry little faces, hunched shoulders and physically questionable poses, hulking, angular armour and ridiculously large guns, they had the glimmer of the soul; the same spark of unique artistry that defined the entire franchise. They were stylised; they were representative. They were the physical manifestation of rock album covers, secondary school sketches, and hazy memories of watching gory horror films late at night. They were the spirit of an entire generation. When I was a child, I did medieval re-enactment, and I attended one particular battle in France. At this event, a couple of blokes got blasted by a cannon that exploded itself. Had to be airlifted out. I find out years later, one of them was a sculptor for Citadel. And it made perfect sense; in the artistry behind old-school Warhammer, there was that same lunatic spirit of the kind of people who dress up in medieval clothes and recreate historical battles for fun. The modern stuff is... the spirit of a corporation. I see nothing of my childhood in the modern GW lineup; nothing of that rebellious creativity.
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