the trolley problem is easy, actually

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easy, actually

easy, actually

4 ай бұрын

Philosophers and academics think they released the most confusing thought experiment out to the world. Little did they know, it was multiple choice.
It's one of the coolest problems in psychology, philosophy, and even ethics.
*disclaimer: not a philosopher, yes i know the answer depends on the person
Also: part D) the fat villain -- what if the guy standing on the bridge was the one who put the victims on the track in the first place? What if meant to set up the whole disaster? Would you push him off?
Answer: obviously lol
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@easyactually
@easyactually 4 ай бұрын
Nice to see you here Part D) the fat villain -- what if the guy you wanted to push off the bridge was the one who set up the victims on the track in the first place? What if meant to set up the whole disaster? Would you push him off? Answer: obviously, too easy
@liv_bear
@liv_bear 4 ай бұрын
ofcourse duh
@marlonjormungand7845
@marlonjormungand7845 4 ай бұрын
If he does look significantly weaker than me yes 🎉
@TomBrown-db7dv
@TomBrown-db7dv 4 ай бұрын
Your comment isn’t pinned yet btw
@skeleton7411
@skeleton7411 3 ай бұрын
As long as i’m not going to jail or something
@gdcuaer4076
@gdcuaer4076 3 ай бұрын
imagine trying to push the fat guy of the bridge but you fail cause youre too weak. and then ur gonna explain the situation to him while the train just killed 5
@dominic.h.3363
@dominic.h.3363 4 ай бұрын
If the man is heavy enough to stop the trolley, you couldn't push him off the bridge anyway. That's the real reason to say no. There is no point.
@easyactually
@easyactually 4 ай бұрын
This is actually so reasonable it's scary
@suicideistheanswer369
@suicideistheanswer369 3 ай бұрын
my first thought
@rajaryan-fe1oy
@rajaryan-fe1oy 3 ай бұрын
IKR
@FAHMYAYMAN-wp9xw
@FAHMYAYMAN-wp9xw 3 ай бұрын
PLUS if you try to push him and do not succeed in doing so, more than likely you will be sitting next to the five people pretty soon lol
@zano9291
@zano9291 3 ай бұрын
​@2a-le6lrThen you show it a video from easy, actually on being smart
@dylangabriel2703
@dylangabriel2703 4 ай бұрын
I’d switch it once, to bait them, and then I would switch it back
@endermannull4420
@endermannull4420 3 ай бұрын
MULTITRACK DRIFTIIIIIIIIIIING
@adam0_519
@adam0_519 3 ай бұрын
Ayooo😅😅😅
@moshroomm
@moshroomm 3 ай бұрын
We do a lil trolling
@kormannn1
@kormannn1 3 ай бұрын
Troll ey problem officer?
@Whaddle31
@Whaddle31 3 ай бұрын
@@moshroomm trolleying*
@DrRank
@DrRank 2 ай бұрын
"Well, obviously the dilemma is clear. How do you kill all six people?"
@S0m3_random_guy
@S0m3_random_guy 2 ай бұрын
drift the trolley
@bobsquaredme
@bobsquaredme 2 ай бұрын
the good place?
@DrRank
@DrRank 2 ай бұрын
@@bobsquaredme The Good Place
@doctordinosaur3080
@doctordinosaur3080 2 ай бұрын
Google "multitrack drifting meme" to get the answer.
@johnpaullogan1365
@johnpaullogan1365 2 ай бұрын
obviously you let the train hit the 5 first then hit the switch and wait for the next train. reason for hitting the 5 first is there is a chance unforeseen circumstances might prevent the 2nd colission so you should prioritize the highest bodycount in the beginning
@genevarailfan3909
@genevarailfan3909 2 ай бұрын
IRL trolley operator here! (a) I'd hold the lever at the halfway point, since that would derail the trolley in a relatively gentle manner, stopping it before it hits anyone. The passengers get a few bumps and bruises, and everyone lives. (b) If he's fat enough to stop a trolley (25 tons?), I won't be able to push him off the bridge no matter how hard I try. (f) Who installed a derailment catapult in the track? Was it the same guy who tied the 5 people to the track?
@erintyres3609
@erintyres3609 2 ай бұрын
Holding the lever at the halfway point is a great choice even if it we are not sure that it will derail the trolley. The other two positions are sure to lead to a bad outcome, so let's choose the only action that gives a chance of success.
@Mahlak_Mriuani_Anatman
@Mahlak_Mriuani_Anatman 2 ай бұрын
​@@erintyres3609 so you derail it then it rolls over on you, great plan yall, use your brain
@Kyrelel
@Kyrelel Ай бұрын
(a) Derailing the train was not one of the two specific actions so, while you were trying to hold it in the middle, either 1 or 5 will die. (b) It states that the fat man CAN be pushed off the bridge and that doing so WILL stop the train
@jaschabull2365
@jaschabull2365 Ай бұрын
@@Kyrelel I suppose OP's point was that the problem itself is clearly impractical because practically, someone whose body has the mass to stop an entire train probably couldn't be moved by some puny human, and practically, it's apparently possible to gently derail a trolley, and it's the problem which impractically assumes it isn't.
@thepotatoportal69
@thepotatoportal69 Ай бұрын
I think the trolley in the problem has no passengers anyway
@goldy6772
@goldy6772 3 ай бұрын
“Justifying murder is easy, actually”
@Halfrida
@Halfrida 3 ай бұрын
deep
@janfkarel92
@janfkarel92 3 ай бұрын
The opposite actually. Leaving it up to determinism and fairness
@goldy6772
@goldy6772 3 ай бұрын
@@janfkarel92 wdym
@janfkarel92
@janfkarel92 3 ай бұрын
@@goldy6772 to not appoint random people to sacrifice their lives for others when they are not involved
@AnonamemusHacker-yk2dh
@AnonamemusHacker-yk2dh 3 ай бұрын
Welp then it's not murder if it's justifiable
@Chariza_rd
@Chariza_rd 4 ай бұрын
The one with the organ transplants doesn't even make sense. If the 5 people are all missing a different organ, then why would they cut open the one healthy guy? If 1 person is gonna be sacrificed, why wouldn't they use one of the 5 to give those organs to the other 4?
@easyactually
@easyactually 4 ай бұрын
This is one of the biggest plot holes in the problem and I think the people who proposed the problem weasled out of that by saying the 5 people wouldn't be compatible with each other, but the new healthy person is compatible with all of them somehow
@oddabandon
@oddabandon 3 ай бұрын
@@easyactually you legit grew giant with three videos. Proud of you man. Just waiting for your "how not to be a dumbass" video. Someday a stickperson will give me that wisdom
@zvezdoblyat
@zvezdoblyat 3 ай бұрын
​@@oddabandonI look forward to that video also. Because being smart doesn't make you not a dumbass
@slkjvlkfsvnlsdfhgdght5447
@slkjvlkfsvnlsdfhgdght5447 3 ай бұрын
that argument matters irl, but not in the thought experiment
@aramisortsbottcher8201
@aramisortsbottcher8201 3 ай бұрын
Im not a doctor, but I am sure there could be circumstances causing this. For example some organs probalby need to be of a certain size - you cant give a kids heart to an adult - while for other operations you only need a part of a liver or something, so probably you can give a childs liver part or whatever to an adult. Mabey all the patients have only one kidney and two of them need a new one - sacrificing one patient only yields one kidney, helping only one of the needing. The healthy guy has two kidneys, saving both. You see, they just simplified the question, all the details to make it be logical probably exist, but are not relevant to the problem, so why make it complicated?
@BiscuitDelivery
@BiscuitDelivery 2 ай бұрын
The trolley problem always stumped me. No matter how many ways I thought about it, I never could figure out how to hit both the group and the solitary guy with the same locomotive.
@McCaroni_Sup
@McCaroni_Sup Ай бұрын
MULTI TRACK DRIFTING!
@Cloudwalk9
@Cloudwalk9 Ай бұрын
If the trolley only has front and rear axles, switch the track once the front wheels of the trolley pass over the pivoting rail, but before the rear wheels do.
@NemoSumNullus
@NemoSumNullus 11 күн бұрын
switch the track after the trolley is halfway past the intersection
@Pineapple343
@Pineapple343 2 ай бұрын
flick the switch = you murdered someone, dont flick = train accident
@soulsniper_gamer4371
@soulsniper_gamer4371 2 ай бұрын
yeah but you could have still saved more people
@net6406
@net6406 2 ай бұрын
Doing nothing in this situation is also a crime, at least in my country
@korytoombs886
@korytoombs886 2 ай бұрын
@@net6406 I'm pretty sure touching anything related to the train going somewhere else would be a crime. Imagine no one was on either track, and you flipped the switch for no reason, that is illegal. So, you couldn't be arrested for doing nothing because flipping the switch would be illegal in the first place. You not a fn train conductor. That would be my closing argument to a jury. Pretty sure I'm not going to jail.
@niceguyeddie5036
@niceguyeddie5036 2 ай бұрын
I think you need to learn about CONSEQUENTIALISM.
@korytoombs886
@korytoombs886 2 ай бұрын
@@niceguyeddie5036 what if I flipped the witch and it didn't work or made the problem worse. Because I'm not qualified to know if flipping that switch is good or bad, I could argue that I should leave it alone.
@doublet3n672
@doublet3n672 3 ай бұрын
The trolley problem is only a problem if you believe saving more people to be a good thing.
@AbsoluteTruth-vm1zb
@AbsoluteTruth-vm1zb 3 ай бұрын
Sychopaths be like :
@livebungusreaction
@livebungusreaction 3 ай бұрын
for real
@jestfullgremblim8002
@jestfullgremblim8002 3 ай бұрын
This 😂
@freshrockpapa-e7799
@freshrockpapa-e7799 3 ай бұрын
Which everyone does, so...
@Doobert_
@Doobert_ 3 ай бұрын
​@freshrockpapa-e7799 I dont think you don't understand if you had to kill some people to save a lot of people you probably wouldn't. Because you're not a cold logical thinking psychopath presumably.
@zacvancastle.
@zacvancastle. 4 ай бұрын
The problem with this problem is that it can't really be tested in real life. However, it actually was tested once by Micahel Stevens in his series Mindfield. I think it's a KZfaq exclusive so it might not be available to everyone. They conducted the test with a University board approval, and with psychologists to screen candidates filtering those who may have severe trauma after deciding that one person or five should die. The setup, long story short, they were for a moment in an office where a man will remotely control the rail change in a working site. The workers can move, but they were wearing ear protective gear and a train approached. After the man had to leave the office for a moment, the unknowing participants were put on the situation. The train looked real, but it was CGI. Most people froze. And those who didn't had real dilemas as they were saving lives, but they were also condemnign a family to live without the loved one. Those who freezed had many reasons why. Most of them, pointed out by you. So the second question does not assume that you were lying in the first. The second question makes you think twice and deeper about your easy "Yes" at first.
@easyactually
@easyactually 4 ай бұрын
That video was really entertaining and it made me think, cause I feel like many people didn't pull the switch cause they were also scared of messing something up even though the conductor taught them how to use the switch before hand
@tuguldurmunkhbaatar2571
@tuguldurmunkhbaatar2571 4 ай бұрын
​@@easyactually Yeah I might have froze too and another thing on the surgeon one what if the "healthy" guy was in a coma/brain death and had only 50% chance to wake up or even one percent. Then what do you do (assuming the doctor had "some" experience with killing for saving to also eliminate the chance of freezing)
@marc_frank
@marc_frank 3 ай бұрын
the people shown in that video were of the type that would act they way they did which might be the majority of people
@Vi_Vi479
@Vi_Vi479 3 ай бұрын
Trolley problem became pratical in era of driverless cars.
@jyudomassan
@jyudomassan 3 ай бұрын
That series used to be on youtube premium but it's free to watch in his channel Vsauce now. It's an amazing series. I watched it when it came out on youtube red. I would recommend it to anyone. I'm watching it again with my 8yo nephew and he loves it.
@someboi4535
@someboi4535 2 ай бұрын
The Kessenger joke at the end earned you a big like my man
@davidedacunto4045
@davidedacunto4045 2 ай бұрын
I love how this video gets ironically deep and dark, ending by throwning an entire train (of thought) onto the US leaked dark secrets
@jonasp.1830
@jonasp.1830 3 ай бұрын
This is the most elaborate Kissinger dead joke i have encountered so far.
@Akin42
@Akin42 2 ай бұрын
Yeah, I LOST IT at the end there.
@petecoogan
@petecoogan 2 ай бұрын
Now I see where it's going!
@spacegay9309
@spacegay9309 2 ай бұрын
Everyone was so proud of their video edits of grave raves, they should be ashamed. Low effort. This, this is glorious
@Wendy_O._Koopa
@Wendy_O._Koopa 2 ай бұрын
How in the world did Henry Alfred Kissinger manage to get a Nobel Peace Prize though?! He's one of history's greatest monsters... next to that one painter with the toothbrush mustache, and the guy who invented commercials where people talk to each other.
@Jjj53214
@Jjj53214 2 ай бұрын
These unrealistic simplistic academic exercises are devoid of the complexities of the real world.
@David280GG
@David280GG 2 ай бұрын
Ever heard of "hypothetical scenario"?
@ZomboidMania
@ZomboidMania 2 ай бұрын
And that's why they're fun to talk about
@Dere2727
@Dere2727 2 ай бұрын
That’s the point. We’re isolating the morally relevant features of the cases
@JoshuaHults
@JoshuaHults 2 ай бұрын
They actually assume a moral standard which higher academics in general reject.
@sethcolson7223
@sethcolson7223 2 ай бұрын
that’s exactly the point of philosophy. if you can isolate variables, you can find the truth.
@sourlab
@sourlab 3 ай бұрын
This is such a phenomenal video man , you 100% deserve all the subs
@apox3967
@apox3967 3 ай бұрын
Honestly I would have said no to every one of these cause I wouldn't wanna get involved in any of that
@nyanSynxPHOENIX
@nyanSynxPHOENIX 2 ай бұрын
Also a very common solution to the problem. By touching the lever you've taken accountability for what happens. By doing nothing you have no part in the catastrophe that occurs. I wouldn't say refusing to get involved when you could save lives is the moral answer, but it's a common thought process.
@Robbedem
@Robbedem 2 ай бұрын
​@@nyanSynxPHOENIX I wouldn't change the switch since in reality you just won't have the information. f.e. What if the one guy actually checked the switch position to make sure it was safe for him, while the others didn't check the switch What if the 5 people actually want to die and that's why they are on the track? What if the 5 people aren't tied well to the track or there is someone else there helping, so they would escape while the one guy can't escape? ...
@nyanSynxPHOENIX
@nyanSynxPHOENIX 2 ай бұрын
@@Robbedem According to the thought experiment, you know for sure what will happen with both outcomes though.
@BitcoinMotorist
@BitcoinMotorist 2 ай бұрын
Then assume you're a juror judging someone who did pull the lever. Do you vote to convict or aquit knowing the circumstances?
@nyanSynxPHOENIX
@nyanSynxPHOENIX 2 ай бұрын
@@BitcoinMotorist I love this version actually because it removes the ambiguity of what will happen next. I'm actually really interested in how differently people would react to other people's choices after the fact in comparison to their own decision at the moment. More of a test of empathy than morality maybe though.
@throwawaysometime7500
@throwawaysometime7500 4 ай бұрын
As an academic I can comfortably say that the question becomes way easier when you use a train instead of a trolley.
@CapybaraHunter187
@CapybaraHunter187 3 ай бұрын
haha how funny😂
@TruffulaTrees
@TruffulaTrees 2 ай бұрын
with a train it'll either keep flying forward at that speed, or derail completely lol
@mobgabriel1767
@mobgabriel1767 2 ай бұрын
​@@TruffulaTrees If you derail the trolley the train cant run over people in the tracks
@TruffulaTrees
@TruffulaTrees 2 ай бұрын
@@mobgabriel1767 exactly
@Someone45356
@Someone45356 2 ай бұрын
@@mobgabriel1767but by derailing the train you could potentially kill even more people including the conductor and whoever else may be on that train
@C_Corpze
@C_Corpze Ай бұрын
Very interesting video and thought processes! Comes relatively close to how I think about the problem, I always pictured this as "what would I do / what would happen IRL?". Also I like your sense of humor!
@killer_125p7
@killer_125p7 2 ай бұрын
You shouldn't be thinking if you would push the fat man or not you should be running away 💀💀💀 the bridge is about to collapse with that much weight 💀💀💀
@jobobminer8843
@jobobminer8843 4 ай бұрын
Short answer - you can't do math with lives. Work out what you believe and do your best in the moment.
@QSBraWQ
@QSBraWQ 4 ай бұрын
What if I believe math?
@Schabulla
@Schabulla 4 ай бұрын
You can, it is called Utilitarianism
@marlonjormungand7845
@marlonjormungand7845 4 ай бұрын
​@@Schabulla Exactly, and when its just 5 theoretical random lives vs one random life it is moronic to argue against a objective right answer.
@thedisintegrador
@thedisintegrador 3 ай бұрын
@@marlonjormungand7845 it isn't because pulling the lever makes you a murderer
@marlonjormungand7845
@marlonjormungand7845 3 ай бұрын
@@thedisintegradorof one person. Not pulling it makes me the murderer of 5.
@admiralg.5845
@admiralg.5845 3 ай бұрын
You don't need math if you know that half of these are illegal
@thehiddenhermit9014
@thehiddenhermit9014 2 ай бұрын
You need math to know what half is.
@jpro6413
@jpro6413 2 ай бұрын
I think nearly all of them...
@kobayashimaru8114
@kobayashimaru8114 2 ай бұрын
So then it's a matter of what is best for you vs what is best for other people and whether you care (enough), correct?
@sethcolson7223
@sethcolson7223 2 ай бұрын
using law as a basis for ethics and morality is absolutely wild
@johnpaullogan1365
@johnpaullogan1365 2 ай бұрын
is there any relationship between legality and morality?
@GrimblyGoo
@GrimblyGoo 2 ай бұрын
This is amazing, wishing you the best of luck on your content endevours
@mordetwi6961
@mordetwi6961 2 ай бұрын
If you shift the tracks at the right time you can derail the trolley, so you can easily dispose of everyone on the trolley too
@nnamdiochi714
@nnamdiochi714 4 ай бұрын
3:43 "He kind of had it coming" lol 😂
@fatfurry
@fatfurry 3 ай бұрын
I would not pull the lever in the original trolley problem because the trolley has places to go, and I wouldn't want them to get sidetracked. I don't know why nobody ever considers this. The train crashing into the fat man might kill more people on the train. Why does nobody ever care about the people on the train?
@shibfrite9038
@shibfrite9038 3 ай бұрын
Because people are only thinking about what the trolley problem is supposed to be about: 1 or 5 kills ? Thus you're right, in a real situation you would have to consider this, but here the trolley is just seen as a mean to kill more than an actual trolley with passengers in it. Hopes it answers you question!
@moosesues8887
@moosesues8887 3 ай бұрын
@@shibfrite9038good
@kiamichisonger1263
@kiamichisonger1263 2 ай бұрын
because it wont, thats not part of the problem
@Kyle1st100
@Kyle1st100 2 ай бұрын
thats like assuming that baseball players cant delay a game, and must cancel it instead
@basketman2517
@basketman2517 2 ай бұрын
You do realize that the train will be delayed whether you pull it or not? Trains usually stop when they run over five people. I mean, you can’t just drive away from a car accident you caused, same with trains.
@flocon.
@flocon. 2 ай бұрын
“Would you pull the switch/make an action?” My answers: a) original - NO b) original (IRL) - still NO c) the fat man - NO d) the fat villain - NO e) the loop - NO f) the man in the yard - NO g) the transplant surgeon - NO h) the Nobel Prize winner - NO Any action causing the death of someone else who wasn’t previously going to lose their life (but has lost it because of me) feels very wrong. No matter the situation! Very funny video tho🤣🔥
@syndicatius
@syndicatius 2 ай бұрын
So what if everyone else other than you and the sacrifice are tied to the default tracks? You can assume that the trolley has enough energy to plow through every living person
@llejk
@llejk 2 ай бұрын
@@syndicatiusI guess they will be besties then
@raizors1331
@raizors1331 15 күн бұрын
​@@syndicatius Not possible unless the penetrator also ties themselves to get plowed through.
@YTBRSosyalEmre
@YTBRSosyalEmre 8 күн бұрын
Mine is completely yes.
@flocon.
@flocon. 3 күн бұрын
@@YTBRSosyalEmre 🤣🤣
@Mimic_Gaming
@Mimic_Gaming 2 ай бұрын
Caseoh would be big enough to stop a train
@oggolbat7932
@oggolbat7932 3 ай бұрын
The difference in answers is basically whether the "sacrifice" is a necessity or a byproduct of saving the other lives. Basically, if the 1 person wasn't there, could you do the same thing and save the 5 people? In the case of levers, yeah, you could just push the lever and nobody would die, but in the fat man and organ variations, you cannot save them without the "sacrifice" being present.
@marusiaskrynnyk7489
@marusiaskrynnyk7489 2 ай бұрын
Oh I actually like your explanation a lot
@rachelryan84
@rachelryan84 Ай бұрын
That explanation makes a lot of sense.
@ChucoDiaz
@ChucoDiaz 3 ай бұрын
tying all of this in with Kissinger at the end made me laugh so hard. Earned a sub and look forward for more great videos brother.
@DoFliesCallUsWalks
@DoFliesCallUsWalks Күн бұрын
I would keep switching and switching very fast until the Train is stuck and the track is broken
@Lamalas
@Lamalas 2 ай бұрын
The Henry Kissenger reference was so spot on!
@aa898246
@aa898246 4 ай бұрын
my answer is basically no to all of them since i wouldnt want to live in a society where i can be sacrificed for someone elses benefit. like if you wouldn't want to be killed to save someone random, then that other person probably feels the same
@kototototototototototototototo
@kototototototototototototototo 4 ай бұрын
yeahh, agree. this is the same as asking: would you kill millions to save billions lives?
@marlonjormungand7845
@marlonjormungand7845 4 ай бұрын
You seem afraid of responsibility. 🤗
@SctsceDuwn
@SctsceDuwn 3 ай бұрын
​@@marlonjormungand7845 That emoji was placed there for a reason and it's doing its purpose. Annoying ashshyt
@erenhocaoglu8920
@erenhocaoglu8920 3 ай бұрын
@@marlonjormungand7845 sacrifice isnt responsibility you punk.
@hggpi
@hggpi 3 ай бұрын
But you are sacrificable?
@JustgamingIndia
@JustgamingIndia 3 ай бұрын
i said no to all of them because its a skill issue from your side if u get stuck in a railway and are about to be hit by an train
@soph5976
@soph5976 2 ай бұрын
this. also if i pull the lever i can be accused of murder while if don't do anything it just ain't my problem
@JustgamingIndia
@JustgamingIndia 2 ай бұрын
@@soph5976 Yup, it aint my responsibility to save people about to die in a railway because i didnt put them there
@poonalex8008
@poonalex8008 2 ай бұрын
if i saw this happen in real life i would just be confused and not even notice the switch
@JustgamingIndia
@JustgamingIndia 2 ай бұрын
@@poonalex8008 Fr same
@awildjared1396
@awildjared1396 2 ай бұрын
In real life the switch would probably have a padlock on it anyway because railroad security.
@larifari1106
@larifari1106 2 ай бұрын
I say no to all of them. Think this way: "what would happen if i wasnt there?" Exactly, i would just do nothing. Unless of course there was nobody on the other track and i could save a life without sacrificing any lives.
@jaideepshekhar4621
@jaideepshekhar4621 2 ай бұрын
Instant sub! I love your style of content, and have high expectations. Keep it up!
@caroline-uv5xt
@caroline-uv5xt 3 ай бұрын
If the trolley problem actually existed, I would just run away
@KillFrenzy96
@KillFrenzy96 2 ай бұрын
That's why the answer to "Would you actually" is a no. In reality, I probably would want nothing to do with it too.
@egecandir7967
@egecandir7967 2 ай бұрын
​@@KillFrenzy96From an ethical point of view that doesn't make sense. In a theoretical sense flick the switch, you save 5 people at the cost of 1. Don't flick the switch/run away/not touch the switch you lose 5 people, save 1 and probably blame youself for the deaths.
@Coloriey
@Coloriey 2 ай бұрын
lol I was thinking the same thing
@caroline-uv5xt
@caroline-uv5xt 2 ай бұрын
@@egecandir7967 it isn’t but we would just get scared and have a freeze, fight, or flight reaction. And most people would freeze of flight/run away from the situation
@Mahlak_Mriuani_Anatman
@Mahlak_Mriuani_Anatman 2 ай бұрын
Same
@TJ-ih5wq
@TJ-ih5wq 4 ай бұрын
Man keep up the quality videos. Get this man some subscribers! They are well deserved already, I’m just proud to say I’m here to witness the start of something great
@Kyrelel
@Kyrelel Ай бұрын
6 minutes of nonsense to get to a poor joke :/
@captain-crewmate
@captain-crewmate 2 ай бұрын
This is by far the most simplistic and intelectual analysis of the trolley problem I have ever seen. Also, the irony at the end and the reference to Kissenger, hats to you!
@Kyrelel
@Kyrelel Ай бұрын
It's also wrong.
@vaibhvtripathi
@vaibhvtripathi 20 сағат бұрын
My Solution: As soon as the trolley's front wheel crosses the junction, you switch the lever, forcing the back wheels onto another track. This derails the trolley, saving all six people without having to make a difficult choice.
@marc_frank
@marc_frank 3 ай бұрын
switch it so that the train derails the diverter takes time to move
@nameless......................
@nameless...................... 2 ай бұрын
YES
@theeternalmelon1241
@theeternalmelon1241 2 ай бұрын
The one proper answer without other specifications.
@Mahlak_Mriuani_Anatman
@Mahlak_Mriuani_Anatman 2 ай бұрын
Then it rolls on you great plan 🤦
@theeternalmelon1241
@theeternalmelon1241 Ай бұрын
@@Mahlak_Mriuani_Anatman this idiot -.- switches for trains are never in front of them.
@batatasabia
@batatasabia 3 ай бұрын
the main thing I would say is that besides the basic question, the dat villain and the loop question all of them come back to the "fair game point" that was made. When you have a shitty scenario were you only get to control how many people will die then its the best the minimaze death. But in the other they all are cases were you actively choose to kill someone that has nothing to do with the situation so other people can live, yes its "less deaths" but its not the same, because its not fair for that unralated person to die so someone else can be saved, while in the first one everybody is already in a unfair situation
@majorbajor
@majorbajor 3 ай бұрын
The fair game point is dumb af, it's not like the people chose to be put on the train tracks
@David280GG
@David280GG 2 ай бұрын
​@@majorbajor but theyll be aware that if the get killed is to save someone who is right there
@jackychen7769
@jackychen7769 2 ай бұрын
​@@majorbajor The 5 people didn't choose to be on the track, but they're already in danger. By pushing the fat person onto the track, you're putting someone innocent/unrelated from safety into danger, hence it's more unfair to the fat individual than a single person on the track, making the person/people on the track fair(er) game. Ofc, whether that fairness should outweigh x lives is another question. Perhaps it wouldn't be fair to push the fat person if it were only 1 person on the track, but does that justify 5 deaths? How many people need to be on the track before people would push an innocent fat person to stop the train? Framed this way, I think people might reconsider what's moral (or maybe not, idk how people think).
@majorbajor
@majorbajor 2 ай бұрын
@@jackychen7769 the one person on the other track is not in danger because the trolley isn't going down that track. The only danger they're in is the danger that you pull the switch. Just like it's "dangerous" to stand on a bridge near the railing because someone can push you down.
@majorbajor
@majorbajor 2 ай бұрын
@@jackychen7769 the difference I can admit to is that the person on the tracks is probably more afraid than the man on the bridge, which is probably what your point is. The implication would be that killing someone who is afraid/expects they might die is more moral than killing someone who doesn't expect to die. But it also implies that when you expect to die you become less worth saving and your worth as a human being diminishes, which I find a pretty strange idea.
@BleachWizz
@BleachWizz 2 ай бұрын
6:10 - I was so expecting a random "choose the worst guy to save the other 4 instead."
@theoverseer1775
@theoverseer1775 2 ай бұрын
2:07 excuse me, this channel went from 49 subs to 300K in TWO MONTHS?!
@Wulfrim
@Wulfrim 4 ай бұрын
Two ways of going about this as far as I can tell. The first is simply doing math to maximize life saved. The second, and my preferred, is to save life without impeding upon the freedom of choice of others. I would pull the lever to divert the trolley because the victims are already tied to the track, and so I'm not robbing someone of their autonomy while trying to save lives. They by some means ended up without the ability to choose for themselves already, and have no choice in the matter now, so I may as well do the best I can in a bad situation. The sleeping guy, on the other hand, simply chose to sleep in his yard, and involving him would be wrong because only bad luck put him near the situation. And obviously, don't commit murder and push any onlookers infront of a trolley, regardless of size or physics. Basically I will always preserve free will. That means that I can only save someone if it doesn't take away someone else's free will.
@easyactually
@easyactually 4 ай бұрын
This is a smart and well thought out answer
@debrachambers1304
@debrachambers1304 4 ай бұрын
Wouldn't diverting it impeded the free will of the one guy on the other track, though?
@Wulfrim
@Wulfrim 4 ай бұрын
@@debrachambers1304 No. He is tied to the track, very likely by someone else. His free will and those of the other five have unfortunately been taken away. They're all completely in your hands in this scenario, since they didn't choose to be there and can't choose to leave. Interestingly, if they were all simply on the track of their own will, and didn't know the train was coming for some reason, I don't think I would divert the train.
@Mornings
@Mornings 3 ай бұрын
In order to be objective in ethics all actions must be separated thus you pulling the lever is still murder which is objectively immoral even if you saved lives and its not self defense or defense of others as the one who dies is not forcing you to pull the lever or threatening you. In order to remain morally null you must never pull the lever. In order to be acting morally you would have to save people without others dying or being harmed by pulling it. No disrespect meant simply pointing out how objective moral equations work.
@debrachambers1304
@debrachambers1304 3 ай бұрын
@@Mornings I don't think being objective necessarily means thinking about actions instead of consequences, I don't accept that line of logic.
@nnamdiochi714
@nnamdiochi714 4 ай бұрын
6:36 Take the medal and run 😂
@pandoratheclay
@pandoratheclay 2 ай бұрын
0:04 “twolley pwoblem”
@SirCalculator
@SirCalculator 2 ай бұрын
"As many as I can" - was my immedeate response to the last one
@grim6392
@grim6392 4 ай бұрын
Really love the quality of your videos, and it shows how much time you put into them! Keep it up!
@StormForthcoming
@StormForthcoming 4 ай бұрын
Dude I’m loving the direction of your channel. I think the last two videos have been some of the best stuff you’ve ever put out on here!
@Nithus0
@Nithus0 2 ай бұрын
That Kissinger joke was epic bruh. Subscribed
@reznovvazileski3193
@reznovvazileski3193 2 ай бұрын
There's a solid legal answer to the problem as well. Most states in the US do not require you to actually save a person, strike for some special relationships like teacher/student doctor/patient etc. or if the danger is due to your own actions. So that being said if you let the 5 people die you are not obligated to save them. If you pull the switch you are obligated to save that 1 person you just put in danger yourself, even though you just saved the other 5. Now in case you did pull the lever you do of course have the right to a jury trial in which case you'll very likely be excused because most people do believe in the lesser evil/greater good thing. But if you don't touch anything and walk away you wouldn't have to stand trial to begin with because you didn't commit a crime.
@shripadbabrekar3023
@shripadbabrekar3023 3 ай бұрын
Best channel I saw for this month, thanks for making my day
@khaelkugler
@khaelkugler 3 ай бұрын
0:37 I don't think that's the original... LOL
@balrajpadda7558
@balrajpadda7558 11 күн бұрын
Lol doing anything will kill them all lol. Imagine flipping the lever thinking you saved people but then the trolly comes back to kill them all lmao🤣🤣.
@Robert-xs2mv
@Robert-xs2mv 10 күн бұрын
What would I be doing anywhere near a railway line switch in the first place? Last time that happened, like last century, there was a clear sign, “ only to be operated by authoritised personnel
@DADADRTR
@DADADRTR 2 ай бұрын
A very good twist at the end; well done.
@joshualelon
@joshualelon 3 ай бұрын
0:46 Because I.. I don't know how to animate them LMAO
@Existencialtoph
@Existencialtoph 2 ай бұрын
Next video: "animating is easy, actually"
@liv_bear
@liv_bear 4 ай бұрын
You are going places my man! 2 videos, only 4 days on this channel and.... already 1.56k! congrats!
@famus_tem8351
@famus_tem8351 2 ай бұрын
always pull and switch the lever as quickly as possible. this makes the gacha more exciting!
@Christoph-ce4hj
@Christoph-ce4hj 22 күн бұрын
The trolley problem makes me think of The Good Place and that is why I always get a chuckle from it
@mikoal1463
@mikoal1463 4 ай бұрын
Wait, you only have two videos!? Make more, they are informative and hilarious.
@himignicest1571
@himignicest1571 4 ай бұрын
glad to be a veteran of this channel BAHAAHAH, love the dry humor and editing style and everything like GO ON MY MAN GO FORTH
@LillaMig
@LillaMig 7 күн бұрын
Correct answer: always yes, 1 person die 5 gets saved, it doesnt matter how it's done
@ThatKnatGuy
@ThatKnatGuy 2 ай бұрын
This guy joins youtube and right away starts dropping bangers
@peachyeinna
@peachyeinna 4 ай бұрын
I think about the trolley problem all the time lmaoo, thank you for this video!
@lizardwizard8930
@lizardwizard8930 3 ай бұрын
i wouldn't do anything because there might be some chances of manslaughter
@zhouwu
@zhouwu 2 ай бұрын
Apart from the last one, I'd say thanks for all the model answers!
@jblockminermc5401
@jblockminermc5401 2 ай бұрын
My first immediate thought about scenario f is yes to derail it: Once derailed, There’s no actual guaranteed chance the train will hit the sleeper in the hammock, therefore if it does you got plausible deniability. It also means derailing it has a possibility of saving everyone.
@MG-ul3mi
@MG-ul3mi 4 ай бұрын
bruh ur gonna blow up. i predict it. good content and u got the algorithm by the balls.
@EliasSharkcia
@EliasSharkcia 3 ай бұрын
gotta point out that reintroducing factors in decision making like “what people would think of you” is exactly not the point of the trolly problem
@lokyinng5155
@lokyinng5155 2 ай бұрын
"i'd say the question itself is flawed." - sensei (blue archive)
@mae__
@mae__ 3 ай бұрын
The final joke💀 i love everything about this channel 😂
@gol_fist
@gol_fist 3 ай бұрын
Kissinger joke made me lough out loud. Man, you are on fire. Keep doing what you doing
@piptune
@piptune 3 ай бұрын
I would never choose to do anything. Cuz it's not my business. If I mess up, which is more likely, I don't want to blamed for something I wasn't engaged with in first place. That doesn't mean I would be okay to know one person died afterall. It's just not my job to pull rail switches.
@ThePikminCivilization
@ThePikminCivilization 2 ай бұрын
I wouldn't blame you if you pulled that lever or not.
@thibautverrier5053
@thibautverrier5053 2 ай бұрын
I love this video !!! Putting ourselves in very realistic situations like these ones ! Definitely useful.
@Welp2010
@Welp2010 16 күн бұрын
the way i think of it is if it was reversed (the train is going towards one guy, and you can flip the switch to make it go to the 5 guys) you obviously wouldnt do that, so originally you should flip the switch
@romyma
@romyma 4 ай бұрын
That ending was too good lmao
@tobiaspramono378
@tobiaspramono378 3 ай бұрын
On the first question, if we include physics on this, assume the train was a passenger train, and moving at 100 km/h, then ipushing the leverwould absoloutely derail them and cause more deaths, including the 5 people in the track
@Kyrelel
@Kyrelel Ай бұрын
The problem states that that will not happen
@maksiksq
@maksiksq 2 ай бұрын
2:53 trains can casually go 200 km/h the man has to be way heavier than a building to stop the train, and you can't push him off then anyways, that one makes no sense at all
@maxifire32
@maxifire32 2 ай бұрын
In the first and second one, just pull the lever once the train is on the track that switches, so the train derails
@Kyrelel
@Kyrelel Ай бұрын
Nope
@user-cz8gi2om3n
@user-cz8gi2om3n 3 ай бұрын
The intuitive difference that people have between scenarios is dignity. In the 1st cast, the one who dies is a secondary effect of the the decisions to save the others. We would still act the same whether that one person is there or not and would prefer he wasn't. In the case of the fat man and the organ donor, we are using a human being as a means to an end, we need that person, but don't want to ask for his input or consent. Most people (at least in the West) are emotionally repulsed on an intuitive level by the idea of using a person as a means to an end, especially if it involve the use of their body. People who say Kant wouldn't pull the lever in the first scenario don't quite understand the categorical imperative. A caveat though is that the answers people give might be different in cultures where the idea of individual dignity and autonomy is not as widely known or accepted, ex) North Korea.
@mariamartinusz9699
@mariamartinusz9699 2 ай бұрын
You totally have th Grail. There's a huge difference between having to sacrifice someone in orrder to save more and reducing the life of others' to a tool.
@protaties
@protaties 2 ай бұрын
Much harder problem: how not to be cyberbullied for whatever choice you made.
@TGP4485
@TGP4485 2 ай бұрын
im in love with this channel
@Ace501st-studios
@Ace501st-studios 2 ай бұрын
(3:14) your on a bridge just jump onto the train and stop it in time by jumping into the cab and pulling the brakes
@IgorFGamerHD
@IgorFGamerHD 4 ай бұрын
2:01 lol
@ElizibethHarmony
@ElizibethHarmony 3 ай бұрын
Plot tiwst, the 1 person on the train had the cure to cancer and the 5 people where murderers
@tails183
@tails183 2 ай бұрын
My solution was to pull the lever at just the right time, causing the front and back half of the train to go on separate tracks, causing it to do a sick drift.
@Kyrelel
@Kyrelel Ай бұрын
Not possible
@tails183
@tails183 13 күн бұрын
Too bad.
@grozendachovek
@grozendachovek 2 ай бұрын
4:54 the bro is already sleeping. Now he'll have an even better one.👍😀👍
@SageLucas
@SageLucas 3 ай бұрын
My take (unhinged): a) No, because I don't want to get involved. If anything, the question is how do you even know that lever will change the direction of the trolley? And even if it's obvious that it will change direction, why should I do anything? If I don't do anything, it's just an unfortunate accident that I will have seen. If I get involved I might forever be traumatised by the fact that I killed 1 person, even if I saved 5. Also, there's chances I might end up in prison. b) Same answer, why would I answer differently than what I would actually do in real life, what's the point of the question if I just answer it theoretically? c) Same answer, but this time there's a very real possibility that I will end up in prison, even saving the 5 people. d) Same answer as c. e) Same answer as c and d, but with the same chances of ending up in prison as a. f) No, why would I get involved? Same answer as a. Also I might end up in prison. g) Ok, this time you will seriously, 100%, end up in prison IF you get caught. I don't see how you would not get caught. Seriously. h) Same answer as a, I don't want to get involved. Also I might end up in prison.
@praxseb4317
@praxseb4317 3 ай бұрын
only moral answer here
@fl6107
@fl6107 4 ай бұрын
Do you do video suggestions? I'd like to see something like "Why do we have morals?" Start with the baseline logic "There is no objective morality". I mean I could just ask ChatGPT but I'd like to see your take please.
@RoninCatholic
@RoninCatholic 2 ай бұрын
Morality is objective, actually. It's the choices to do various immoral things that are subjective and based on impulse or perception of others rather than what's actually right or wrong.
@blissful4992
@blissful4992 Ай бұрын
@@RoninCatholicno 😂
@Robert-xs2mv
@Robert-xs2mv 10 күн бұрын
Taking the Nobel peace medal. Never thought of that ironically twist. Good one.
@johnkisaragi5920
@johnkisaragi5920 2 ай бұрын
If you pull the switch youd go to jail for man slaughter. Its best to not do anything because you are not a licensed or trained train operator. So touching the lever or switch would be illegal
@justneroo
@justneroo 3 ай бұрын
I legit answered no, cause I would just look not make any decision
@pdonettes
@pdonettes 2 ай бұрын
I hate trolley problems because they encourage binary thinking.
@datboi945
@datboi945 2 ай бұрын
yet another example of the woke agenda, wanting non binary thinking
@kenjicarlos8402
@kenjicarlos8402 2 ай бұрын
tbh, i don't want to be responsible for anything so i'd just walk away and try to forget the guilt.
@TheRealMACA
@TheRealMACA 2 ай бұрын
New sub as soon as I saw the train fly into Wyoming 5:05 That was such a specific state to choose for this scene. 😂 The least populated per amount of land. Less dangerous to land there. 😅 wow then I finished the video. and came back to say that my subscription to your channel is solidified. thank you for your service!
@thisisnotahandle1337
@thisisnotahandle1337 2 ай бұрын
1:02 pull the lever mid switch to cause the train to derail saving everyone :D
@joan_of_craft4690
@joan_of_craft4690 2 ай бұрын
nah, multi-track drifting
@sen8078
@sen8078 3 ай бұрын
bro saying he wouldnt push the guy in part c cuz "oh he might not be able to stop the train" but the problem says he can so he obviously can and you know that in the problem and "oh he doesnt deserve this" well and what did the 5 ppl there did to deserve it
@sssveden
@sssveden 2 ай бұрын
If he is heavy enough to stop the train, then it's impossible for you to push him
@syndicatius
@syndicatius 2 ай бұрын
​@@sssvedenExcept the problem states you can, thus the guy must be in an unstable equilibrium that you can disrupt
@godofmath1039
@godofmath1039 14 күн бұрын
​@@sssveden Inability to engage with hypotheticals is a sign of low intelligence.
@lonelyPorterCH
@lonelyPorterCH 2 ай бұрын
I guess that channel grew a lot, 250k already, and about 200 in the endcard^^
@kingmonkey79rulerothebanan27
@kingmonkey79rulerothebanan27 Ай бұрын
0:40 bro that track just loops around and is gonna kill everyone no matter what
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